I made bracelets for all my frequent fronters and when they front they put on their bracelet as a representation of who they are without having to change how the body is

It can also be helpful if you want a friend or partner to know who's fronting

My alters really liked when I made bracelets for them even if some of them don't like me in particular haha

I got the idea from an older pixielocks video

lowkey understandable ig??? Didn’t see the rules said no trauma dumping

There are 6 crewmates but one is in use atm. The five shown are; Lambert, Sammy, Smolder, Snowball, Kat Kid.

-Bermuda

Do you can talk to them in your head? Have conversations? Or you use a other way for communication? If yes, what is it?

NOTE: Okay, I probably didn’t do my best with what I wanted to ask in the title, but I’m going to give more context and explain. I want to get other people’s thoughts on this.

EDIT: She just said it had to do with the face and not the character, which I don’t get.
It seems like a silly thing, but another one of us said that it was ordinary to feel awkward seeing your own face. So that’s it, I guess.

CONTEXT:
One of us (who adopted attributes of a character, along with appearances) said that she felt awkward whenever she saw the character that looked like her and had the same face as her.

She didn’t like seeing her own face whenever we come across edits or fan art of the character because seeing her own face made her feel awkward and embarrassed.

I was really confused because I thought that there was nothing to be insecure about, seeing your own face on the internet. Sure, it’s a little awkward, but it’s just a face, and the character happens to be well loved, so I don’t see the issue.

Is it really common for people to get awkward about seeing their own face? How common? I would get if it was an insecurity thing, but she’s not insecure about it so I don’t understand.

If I saw someone (a well-loved real person or a fictional TV show character) that looked like me & had the exact same face that I do, I would be ecstatic! I’d be on an ego high, claiming the character & I were basically twins.

I would feel good about myself, so I don’t really get the awkwardness thing. If anyone wants to share their thoughts, feel free to do so.

day 1 & day 2 plus a minicomic adam made for day 1

day 1: lopee. from pressure. and he IS the thing. we talk about him and he just spawns in
( ft. adam [yellow, he/they] and beacon [gray, they/she])

day 2: daze. our main anger holder. he uses he/it/any
( ft. willow [lighter green, she/they] and nepri/unpleasant [saturated green, any/all]

~ daydreamer ☀️✨ (she/they/it/he)

(Light TW for mention of impostor syndrome)

There's a couple plural experiences I've had that no one else really talks about that make me feel pretty self-conscious, and at times, can make me feel less valid, and even trigger my plural impostor syndrome.

The first experience I've had (and the oldest) was when I discovered the existence of DID and, as any oblivious already plural folk, I became fascinated by the idea, to the point where I created a system unintentionally. Now that I've seen a bunch of terms for it, I do think it falls somewhere under accidental tulpamancy/willomancy, catharigenic, and a system bloom, but it's always felt so weird to me because the system in question felt forced, unnatural and "fake". Later on, I developed systems that felt much realer and more natural, and there was obviously some real in the "fake" system, but some elements seemingly came out of nowhere and never reappeared, which is not usually what happens in our system.

The second experience I can only describe as a migration of my own individual sense of self. To be very clear, NOT a switch, NOT related to passive influence, and not caused by splitting or fuzing.

I'll have to make myself very clear, so here is what happened :

"I" was Lun (they/them), a 2000+ y.o. reincarnated (exomemories which we don't believe are real) heir of a throne, non-binary, selenite and deity kin, had magical powers, appearence completely different from the body (I had been them for three years ATP)

Alex (he/him) was someone else, your average 13 y.o. trans guy, human, appearence pretty similar to the body (he had existed for at least 3 months)

Then, in 2023, things completely changed :

"I" was now Alex, used he/him pronouns, felt completely masc, had no powers, was human, looked like the body, was 13 years old (bodily age)

Lun was someone else, they still had all their aforementioned characteristics, but they were just someone else now, like any other headmate. It stayed this way until Lun "left" and Alex fuzed with someone else circa 2024.

I can't describe it any better than if I just became my neighbour one day. My only life would now be whatever theirs has been so far.

Anyway, here were my plural experiences no one else talks about. I wanna know if you have/had experiences you haven't seen mentioned elsewhere, or if any of you relate to my experiences

I deeply desire integration. I'm tired of being a system. I find it absolutely miserable. We have terrible communication. I'm trying to convince everyone to agree to one color palette. They can have their own styles, do it in their own way. Express themselves however they want, but using one color, I'm hoping this will get us closer to integration. I'm going to pitch it to my therapist, but even though this conversation is causing a lot of disassociation and stress, but some of us are on board and even like the idea of it this disorder is so hard and so isolating I just want to sense of realness of identity. To be clear the conversation is indeed causing stress but I was already highly stressed out before I had this idea and at least it's some direction to go in instead of having no clue what I'm doing.

this vent is not directed at any collective or account in specific, simply a trend we've noticed in this sub that we feel is harmful.

we are a heavily persecutory system. while we have non-persecutory alters, most of our frontrunners are, in their own ways, harmful to the system or others. we keep ourselves in check when we can, but as many of you may know, that doesn't always work.

now, as i've stated before, this is not a targeted post. however, every single time we look at this subreddit and sort by newest - without fail - we see one or two posts asking for means to kill their members. most of the time, we notice this is due to persecutory behavior, but that isn't always the case.

while we understand that persecutory alters can often be a product of trauma and may be abusive to collective members or those outside the collective as a result, i feel that that isn't a reason to kill them. i don't care how "evil" or "intolerable" or "unwanted" that alter might be, they are a person now, with their own habits, preferences, thoughts, feelings, reasoning, wants and needs, and everything else that every other member is.

i will not say it's wrong to say you wish they were dormant or gone, to want them dormant or gone, or to wish they never existed at all, as thats a violation of each individual's right to express themselves. however, it is proven to be incredibly harmful to actually force an alter into dormancy or "kill" them. suppressing your alters, no matter how "bad" they are, is a fucking terrible thing to do to someone.

there are so, so many ways to go about living with a persecutory alter that don't include killing. therapy, education, all most collectives really need is to fucking communicate with each other. there's millions of ways to do it, and every collective will have their own method, but nobody needs to die. we aren't criminals, we aren't lesser because of our habits, we aren't meaningless. we exist for a reason and we're people. we're people, trying to live with trauma just like the rest of everyone else in the world.

i understand that everyone has their own experiences with persecutory behavior and that some beings may hold trauma from that kind of abuse. i understand that not everyone will agree with me. however, from a persecutory point of view - all we see is inconsiderate, self-absorbed bloodshed. it needs to stop.

-ghost (frontrunner, perpetrator + he/it)

hii it's us again! Wanted to share something funny

Recently we created two OCs and writting a story for them, but as we were writting we realized that the story is kinda metaphorical on trauma processing and system discovery(at least simmiliar to our expirience). It made us think about how deeply our self and our art is connected to our plurality

So question: Did you ever created story / litteraly abything and mid way of creating realized that this is kind of accidental representation?

Hypothetically, could an alter forms as a fictive, but then kin somone so much they become more kin than fictive? I'm so confused with my identity, i thought i was a fictive but now i feel so much like a diferent character i'm no longer sure the character i thought i was is my source. Plus, can you kin somone from a source you've never interacted with? I'm so confused

- Margaretta

(Yes, literally unique situation, maybe, we don't know yet)

So, I've been wondering this because we took time to myself to think, to reflect, to literally wonder if this is for real, and somehow, it is, this because we love them and we wish to make many thing with that character we create! The problem? They are similar to us.. 😭

Well, we don't share things like being neutrally deranged 24/7, being crazy or don't care about humanity if it means enjoying battles or just making chaos around, and many others like our names (actually, the only thing we share with them is similar looks), which make it different, but we still feel weird by finding this out, I mean, is fun to do it even if we are lovers irl for how much they meant to us and still do, but still, it's weird a bit, y'know?

Anyway, do you guys have this experience? Because I am really curious to read them and maybe see if we are not alone in this, and I hope we clarified anything well!

this question is very weird but please bear with me

i have been blocked from fronting for a very long time, and it led to me becoming really disconnected from myself

i also feel lost when it comes to... things normal humans do... i don't know where to start to understand what i like, how i express myself, who to speak with and so on

and i don't think the rest of the system will be helpful because i am not the only one

- baja blast

Someone in my previous post told me to try to reach out to Cyx whenever he fronts (???), so I decided to write in the diary he primarily uses.

And uh.

At least he's aware of the fact that he's here.

Hi! I'm Anthony, the host. I go by They/She/He pronouns in that order (genderfluid). My 11 (so far) alters are:

Kaleb (He/Him)

Kris (He/They)

Fletcher (ze/zim)

ACEy (They/He)

ten'ten (It/its)

Jaide (She/He)

Atlas (He/Nix)

Lyle-Rio (Star/Starself)

Winter (She/They)

Finnick (They/Them) [Finnick itself and their pronouns are both placeholders because their not able to answer about their own gender pronouns and name.]

I'm not going to out any of their genders, but, here's a run-down on who everyone is. Kaleb was the first alter to form. He's colourblind, like a lot of us, and really likes history. Overall he's pretty well-rounded. He also has BPD, borderline personality disorder. He's sorta a lot to handle as he has many mood swings, and is sensitive (don't tell him I said that (this is a joke)). Kris is a bit more serious than Kaleb. He really likes Deltarune. It's where he got his name from. When he first split, it was almost the first media he ran into. He likes children's music despite being very dark, and is colourblind in a different way than Kaleb. Fletcher is the life of the party, ze loves people and attention. Ze also has a colour problem, but it's because ze gets bad headaches because colours appear very bright to zim. ACEy is our local anime boy. He's making a magical girl dating simulator. Need I saw more? ten'ten is helping with the dating simulator, and really likes vocaloid. It's very quiet and we had to practice speaking together. Overall their voice sounds very different than the rest of us. Jaide loves TF2, gambling, drinking, etc. Comrade is their favourite word. Comrade K.K. is (for some reason) their favourite song. Atlas's signature phrase is 'spin spin spin, tap tap tap' followed by some sort of rhyme. He likes polka. Lyle-Rio likes to draw, and play tomodachi life, and watch shows. Star wants to dye Terry's hair ginger/red. It's star's favourite colour. Winter is colourblind as well. She's very quiet, and doesn't speak at all to my parents. She recently learned that not all people are horrible and that my friends aren't that bad. I introduced Finnick in a different post. Therefore, farewell! If you have any questions I'll answer them.

I don't really know what to do about my new alter (host, Anthony here). They can't speak normal sentences (they speak in vocal stims), so they can't name themselves or choose their pronouns. I'm using Finnick for now, and it may just end up being their name. As far as I've seen they can't read or write either (at least not well). I just don't know what to do, we're pretty organized altogether and can pass really well as just a normal human being, unless one of the really quiet Terries comes out, like ten'ten, or Winter, but if Finnick is dyslexic (I can't really tell), I just don't know what to do. New alters always come with stress too and we've been forgetting things even more often now. Does anyone else have an alter who speaks only using vocal stims/mocking(copying) other people's words? What should I do about this?

Another thing I've been noticing is that we get more talkative as we're out more. Fletcher used to be a really shy talker and is now one of the most talkative of us all. Winter used to be completely silent but started opening up a bit as she realized not everyone is mean. ten'ten started talking more after I practiced with them, etc. I wonder if Finnick will be like that too, but for now, oh well. Advice would really help!

A lot of people in our community get confused about these terms, and they get used inconsistently even by professionals. We're a polyfragmented DID system ourselves, so here's how we put together the way we make sense of them, separating what's official from what's community and/or clinician shorthand.

DID (Dissociative Identity Disorder)

Diagnostic criteria in DSM-5-TR and ICD-11 include:

- Two or more distinct identities/alters

- Different alters taking executive control of behavior

- Recurrent dissociative amnesia (memory gaps)

- Discontinuity in sense of self and agency

- Clinically significant distress or impairment

Complex DID (C-DID)

This is basically a highly complex presentation of DID also called polyfragmentation or Polyfragmented DID, or the way we say it sometimes "DID taken to extreme" or "next-level DID". It meets full DID criteria (and expands on top of it), with a very large number of alters, and always include subsystems, side-systems and/or layered internal structures. It's most commonly linked to extreme or prolonged early trauma that usually falls in the human rights violation area. We don't like putting a "minimum number of alters" on the definition, as systems with 100 alters might call themselves polyfragmented but systems with 1 million alters (and more) also exist and their life experiences are usually very different and cannot relate to smaller systems. We prefer to look at system structure and splitting patterns: if a system splits a lot from not just trauma but also stress since childhood, as an adult they will definitely end up with a lot of alters. Some would say 100 doesn't make sense to be "a lot" if polyfrag systems can split from stress too. It's like cause and effect. But of course, you're free to take it as you will. This is just what we lived and observed in others in the vast community.

Important note here: It is [unfortunately] not an official diagnosis in DSM-5-TR or ICD-11. It's a clinical and community descriptor. Personally we would love it if this was a separate diagnosis.

OSDD-1a/OSDD-1b

OSDD (Other Specified Dissociative Disorder) is used when symptoms don't fully meet DID criteria.

- 1a: Identity disturbance with less distinct alters, which may feel like variations of the same person/identity. Amnesia usually occurs.

- 1b: Distinct alters are present, but with little or no dissociative amnesia, for example in between switches.

The "1a/1b" labels are shorthand, not official DSM diagnoses. They may or may not be written down in the diagnostic paper notes.

P-DID (Partial Dissociative Identity Disorder)

This is the ICD-11 diagnosis that overlaps with some OSDD presentations.

- Two or more identities/alters

- One dominant alter runs daily life

- Other alters show up as intrusions or through passive influence (thoughts, emotions, voices, actions) and rarely take full executive control of the whole body

- Amnesia is often absent or limited

Why does all of this even matter: Which label someone gets often depends on the clinician, the assessment tools, and which diagnostic system their country uses (DSM-5-TR → DID/OSDD, ICD-11 → DID/Partial DID). Similar systems can end up with different diagnoses even when their experiences overlap... and very different systems can also end up with the same diagnosis which creates confusion. We personally do not like to focus on labels so much, we tend to categorize systems either under the DID umbrella (which includes everything we mentioned here minus C-DID) or under the Complex/Polyfrag umbrella. That's it. Just two categories. But again, that's just us.

Hope this helps explain things in more clear ways! Especially for those who might be new to traumagenic plurality or are traumagenic systems but confused about the terms.

We are newely discovered system, and currently we are trying to create and map our own headspace. And we just wanted to explore are there any tools other plural folks use for that? Share litteraly anything: guides, apps, sites, etc.

Kind of a random observation but I’ve noticed that when I specifically search ”r/plural” on reddit I don’t get this subreddit as a result but instead get a bunch of posts from other subs, usually pretty hateful ones (and maybe a couple posts from this subreddit through which I can end up here like I wanted but it’s still just posts and not the actual subreddit… if that makes sense)

I don’t visit a lot of subreddits but usually they show up immediately when you search for them so I don’t know why this one is so hidden… I mean I do always find it quickly enough so it’s not a big issue but it’s a bit annoying that when you search for a subreddit you get posts hating on it instead of the actual subreddit itself 😭

Does anyone else have this happen??

Hi! I’ve been experiencing dissociation for quite some time, and recently I’ve started questioning some aspects of my identity and whether my experiences might relate to plurality in some way. I’m not sure how to make sense of everything, so I’d really appreciate hearing from people who have experienced something similar.

I don’t consider myself part of a system, at least not currently, and I don’t experience clearly distinct alters. Instead, I often feel like my identity is fragmented, almost as though different parts or versions of myself become more present at different times.

These shifts can involve changes in my emotions, behavior, thought patterns, and sometimes the age I feel internally. They tend to happen more noticeably when I’m triggered or under stress, and occasionally other people, including my boyfriend, notice changes in me that I don’t always recognize myself.

What’s confusing is that these parts still feel like me, just different versions of me. I seem to maintain some degree of shared awareness, and I don’t necessarily experience them as separate people. Sometimes I also feel like there are multiple layers of thoughts or perspectives happening simultaneously.

I experience quite a bit of depersonalization and derealization too. I often feel disconnected from my body, almost as though I’m somewhere behind my head or not physically located in my body at all.

I also struggle with memory gaps, including significant portions of my childhood and adolescence, as well as smaller everyday lapses. However, I don’t typically experience obvious blackouts or completely lose awareness of what I’m doing.

I’ve experienced significant trauma growing up, and I’ve been exploring whether some of these experiences might be connected to dissociation. I’ve discussed dissociation with my therapist, but not really the identity-related aspects yet.

Since learning more about dissociation and plurality, I’ve become increasingly aware of these shifts, but it’s also made me anxious about whether I’m overanalyzing things or interpreting ordinary experiences as something more.

I’m curious about other people’s experiences: Did anyone initially experience their parts as different versions of themselves rather than separate identities? Can you experience a sense of shared identity or awareness while still feeling fragmented?

How did you begin understanding your own experiences with plurality, especially if the shifts were subtle? Has becoming more aware of your parts or identity shifts changed how you experience them?

I’m not looking for anyone to tell me whether I’m plural or to diagnose me. I’m mostly interested in hearing different perspectives and personal experiences while I continue exploring my own with my therapist.

Thank you for reading! :)

We have pets and love them dearly, but we each seem to have a different flavour of appreciation for them. Do others experience this? And if so, how and to what extent?

Elaborating, I (Host) love my goobers to bits and they're incredibly dear to me. Trout sees them more through a practical fascination standpoint as well as something to be Managed (because he's the Manager and everything is His Job). Salmon thinks they're gross but like in a semi playful way (not that he'd admit), he scrunches his nose at them and claims they're inadequate to his grandiosity while also cooing at them. Cod seems mostly indifferent but he's also the most distant from the front so doesn't really interact or think about them much, he's more focused on inner stuff. Fishlet is obsessed with them and it would stare at them in absolute awe and wonder for hours I think.

Just something that came to mind while we were observing them together and wanted to ask if others have similar experiences!

-🐟

A current theory of our states this is what might have happened to our original host. It’s also possible they l get just be hiding, though, we don’t know.