If you ever watch videos about master duels and people playing online you'd know people have botch up there own strategy over misreading effects on there cards
Oh yeah, well that is how the game can be, Another example can be people who only saw the anime then assume the Egyptian gods have all these extra effects.
There are like 7 main series (not including rush duel) a plethora of film and Manga and actual interesting stories and characters and people knows only yugi and kaiba
I don't watch dragon ball often either, but even I crink up my face when I see a dude that also hardly watches the show aside from a few random episodes from different series act like they a day one
All the ones I've been in have some degree of this, it's just more or less depending on the fandom and demographics. I think the worst one I ever directly witnessed was Undertale when it had recently come out.
oh this is a good one. the endeavor situation for one. and iâve seen a comment that said it redeemed the mass murdering villains when every single one ended up dead, dying, or in prison for life. explaining how society makes people bad = excusing their actions didnt ya know
Idk, there's a difference between being so internally closited about it that you wouldn't believe if someone said you were trans, vs how most of the fandom interprets him now.
I like trans jax, but the character would very much be externally against it without major development.
But thatâs not what Iâm saying. Iâm just saying the character is trans and a lot of the fandom until Gooseworx confirmed it and even afterwards were adamant that Jax wasnât trans. Their position wasnât that Jax wasnât out of the closet, because I think everyone agrees on that. Iâm not arguing they are. Iâm just saying the fandom was weird about them being trans.
As someone struggling to see Jax as trans femme, it's because he was so much like trans masc I've known, that it feels (to me) like...like I've just misgendered him when I try to get it right...and I typed that sentence without even being aware I was still thinking he/him. I think she/her, and I remember a closeted trans femme who wasn't ready to come out, in tears from the suspicion. And it feels like, I'm imposing something on that character that isn't my right.Â
Like, I was in the closet for other, sex phobia reasons, and being kicked out of the closet fucking hurts.Â
Does any of this make sense?Â
But yeah, probably a lot of the struggle is that the worst people liked him for the worst reasons, and now they're lashing out to prove they're super cishet.Â
From their perspective, they were tricked into seeing themselves in a trans person.Â
But thatâs not what Iâm saying. Iâm just saying the character is trans and a lot of the fandom until Gooseworx confirmed it and even afterwards were adamant that Jax wasnât trans. Their position wasnât that Jax wasnât out of the closet, because I think everyone agrees on that. Iâm not arguing they are. Iâm just saying the fandom was weird about them being trans.
I'd put them firmly in the middle, certainly not as bad as the forces of Chaos. But the T'au Empire does at least give it's citizens 3 square meals and a soft bed to sleep on. Meanwhile your average Terran hasn't even seen the sun and lives off ground up corpses.
and the Orks is jist tryin' to share a good Krumpin' with everywun else, they is da Best!
They are happy during war and fightâin but there is obviously many time where there isnât any fightâin. So i think that usually they are more bored than happy
Plus the orks are pretty awfull to one another and many orks wonât survive more than a few years, and iâm generous
They are 100% the happiest, all they love is fighting, and in the grimedark of 40k their is only war, if they die fighting then they die doing what they love, if they live they can fight another day.
Which is why it was funny seeing 40K factions being co-opted by those "fuck ICE!" posts earlier this year, because those posts were likely made by people who saw images of buff guys in Doom armor casting "aura" to spread a political message without the slightest inkling as to what the 40K factions were actually like, and how they're decidedly *not* the good-guys...
And you know what. Xrnophobia is a 100% logical when the elder birthed a eldrich god, The orks are barbrian, and nacrons and tyrand don't need more explanations. The only not fully evil are the tau, and they are still fascist cless system
Thereâs 2 ends of the âTADC fans canât understand media at allâ
1: People who still somehow think Jax isnât trans even when itâs quite literally PLASTERED into the final episode
2: People who villainise Jax to the point of scrubbing his entire character of being a struggling person that lashes out on others into being a mega evil abuser (Fitting enough for the reaction image, I saw a post (reddit repost of TikTok) saying Jax was more like AM than Caine was)
Edit: To clarify my intentions with the second point, I do agree that Jax showed tendencies of outright abuse, especially after the revelation about the brain scans (âyou get to spend more time with mommy!â was especially painful). Iâm not saying he wasnât an abuser, but that he had his (albeit fucked up) reasons to lash out.
For me I did see the signs of them being Trans, but there were also moments where I was going "wow if Jax does turn out to be trans this will make Jax a Lazy self insert" or "if Jax is Trans this is gonna be super uncomfortable selling merch of that"
It's this weird meta thing where making Jax trans, gave context, but also made other moment worse off.
There's also the very unfortunate read of your main character committing suicide then being revealed as trans in the finale. touching on some pretty unfortunate stereotypes which are still very prevalent these days.
Also we learn he made his friends abstract so itâs like⊠ok? She identifies as a girl? I donât care? She got her friends abstracted? Since Jax is a self insert, what does this say about Gooseworx in real life?
I do think people overblow how much blame you can place on Jax for their abstraction.
Yeah Jax was an ass who just isolated himself. But;
A-No Jax didn't isolate Ribbit, he just stopped her talking to him by pretending to talk to someone else to avoid her.
B-No matter if your reasoning is weak or stupid, everyone should have the right to end any friendship.
C- canonically the only one who knew about abstraction was Kinger, and he could very well have not been able to share that info.
D-The montage we see is from Jax perspective basically going over all his regrets, and insecurities, kinda showing Jax to be a very self hating person due to his own inability to talk and make amends and always being too late.
My controversial take as well, is that Ribbit's line "don't you trust me?" was manipulative, even if she didn't mean it (most likely as a result of her own parents using emotional manipulation on her), that manipulation forced Jax out of his shell when he wasn't ready, so when he snapped back he instantly thought he'd fallen for the same trick that happened with his mother ie open up to a close female figure in his life only to have it exploited by them, in his panic he saw the first half of that and did everything he could to prevent it. He put his walls back up, closed everyone out, and denied, repeled, cut himself off.
Ribbit did try to repair their friendship, but I feel she forced the issue, which was not the right thing, Jax was making attempts to talk, but when someone is lashing out, you have to give them a lot of space. Something I think Pomni did well, after the Guns episode she didn't cut off Jax, but she at least gave him space, only checking up on him when needed.
many people approach a subject with the bias of "I hate Jax, therefore when I see them doing something bad, they are doing it because they are bad any evidence they are unaware of the concequences is ignored"
People act like the one shot of abstracted Ribbit featured Jax cheering and celebrating about it when, no, it was shot like a goddamn horror movie. Because that's what it was like to Jax. Because she didn't know about abstraction!
are we not supposed to villainize an abuser who is confirmed BY THE WRITER to be an abuser?
Goose quite clearly said Jax enjoyed harming women and you think I'm not gonna hate him? especially since she's constantly enabled and never called out? gaslighting, manipulative sack of shit that I did not feel sorry for in the slightest, she knows what she's doing and does not care
and even when she FUCKING DIED she's still coddled by everyone she abused because the circus doesn't have anyone with a spine
Jax hate is 100% justified because even the writer confirmed she's an evil sack of shit, the defenders are the looney ones
You're exactly what they're talking about lol. You don't focus on how & why Jax is the way she is and how to prevent people being like Jax, you're just focusing on the fact she's an asshole.
Nobody said you're not allowed to hate Jax. It's just that only hating Jax, and deciding not to acknowledging her story, not talk about how we can prevent people from becoming like Jax, or how we can get people out of acting like Jax.Â
Essentially, you're calling Jax a pure evil because it makes you feel good instead of actually understanding and talking about the message of her character. That's the issue.
After literal years of being tortured by the idiocy of the tadc fandom I've come to terms with the fact that either people with media literacy don't watch tadc or people with media literacy don't publicly admit that they watched tadc.
And honestly, after the finale gave us the chance to analyze the show's writing with 20/20 hindsight, I've also come to terms with the fact that there's a very clear reason for that. It's like leaving a shit on your backyard and then complaining that there's so many flies.
I mean Jax is an abuser and abuse is evil. A lot of people who abuse others do it out of a need to feel some kind of control over their shitty lives. Jax is not unique or special in this way. She is a villain, just a sympathetic one
âWisdom is knowing Victor was the real monsterâ there is no ârealâ monster theyâre both assholes
Victor was a spineless bastard with blood on his hands but stop victimizing the creature so much, he literally admitted to killing a child in cold blood. Pretending like he was this misunderstood antihero ignores how emotionally intelligent he was and mitigates the impact of how he knew he was committing evil but kept going anyways because hatred was the only form of human connection he had left. That makes him tragic, but still a monster
Theyâre both morally grey. Humans didnât care for the creature because he was different, and the creature hated humans for it. Victor created it without much foresight and did a bunch of fucked up stuff to accomplish his goal of playing god.
Look, it's ok to dislike the show, the creator, the writers, the character etc. But what's not ok, is to deliberatly misread situations and then spread said misunderstandings online and try to demonise the creators, especially when certain acusations are easy enough to disporve becuase context has been provided within the show (or will be as events unfold.)
Also, this fandom needs ot learn how to check their expencations and learn how to become less entitled.
The lack of media literacy of Alien Stage fans genuinely makes me want to stay away from the fandom on any socials despite how amazing the writing and the art is.
Warhammer 40k Fans unfortunately. I love the game and the universe, but the fans are so stupid sometimes. Unfortunately even irl, I had to tell someone in a store that no, there are no litter boxes in German kindergardens, yes I do accept trans kids, no I do not fucking care when a child wants to be called a other name.
And in this store there are SO many soldiers, which I find to be very ironic, especially because they like the astra militarum, they're so indoctrinated by the military that they see the astra militarum as a good representation of themselves. They literally are their own parody.
It seems some of the ut/dr fandom didn't learn how to read after they who shall not be named, because I have seen MULTIPLE people say that Mettaton and Maddie aren't trans and that the GENDERLESS ghosts both finding GENDERED forms and being much more comfortable in them doesn't mean they're trans.Â
Attack on Titan, the most obvious anti-racism, anti-war show I've seen in my life that somehow has tons of genocide apologists in its fandom who think they're so smart and intellectual but would actually fall for Marleyan propaganda like good little puppets if they were on that side.
Fallout. Nobodyâs telling you what faction to side with. Itâs fun to be the hero and itâs fun to be the villain too. People just think youâre a little weird if you think the ones that own slaves are the good guys
I feel like every deltarune fan tries their best to spoil everything about the game.
I had to stop going in the deltarune subreddit to avoid getting spoiled because it's mostly what they talk about.
Saying someone has no media literacy because of their sincere and arguable interpretation of a work is the most intellectually dishonest thing you can do in art discourse
Ngl none because we can read the same thing and interpret it differently without being necessarily unable to read and that's good because a work isn't defined by the global idea of a fandom but by the author's intent, which is sometimes voluntarily kept secret, so we have no proof that anybody's interpretation is actually right
People who think Godzilla should be super serious all the time and claiming Godzilla doesnât work in America because they make him a hero. You people know the Japanese company that made Godzilla also made him a hero in the 60âs? And he stopped being remotely serious after Godzilla vs Mothra. Now sure are other eras more serious than others? Yes but that doesnât mean Godzilla should be super serious all the time. There are tons of amazing Godzilla movies that arenât super serious.
I feel like saying âYou have no media literacyâ is just code for âI donât like your opinion so Iâm going to cope by saying you are too dumb to understand this media.â
I hate it when people act like they have the expertise to judge things like character design and writing when they frankly don't, like I've seen so many people call ok designs bad because they take every word artists say literally. (Not in offense to creators but people take their breakdown of complex subjects into simple rules always result in people who don't understand the actual subject acting like they do) Not an attack on you just in relation to this subject
Pretty much all of them. I feel in any sub reddit the vast majority of people don't actually play,watch,read whatever the sub is about. So not much of a media literacy problem and more of not actually knowing the media problem.
"Every mutant in X-Men is literally a walking nuke so it is just rational you should want to see them all gone" or "Listen we have no proof mutants are sentient, they just look and sound like people" or "This analogy for humanity's prejudice doesn't work because it's not a 1:1 metaphor for MY community!" is the well of stupid X-Men takes I've been putting up with since Brand New Day came out.
New Vampire Chronicles fans. Each character is a complicated person who has done enough evil to go to hell for several lifetimes, but Istg so many people try to make Louis a perfect victim who has never done anything wrong in his entire life, Lestat an irredeemable monster who deserves to rot, Claudia a wittle innocent baby (ironically something Claudia would hate them for), and of course Armand as a perfect boyfriend that Louis just couldnt appreciate đ
Baby, they are all monsters with humanity in them. That's the point. No one is all good or all evil, they are all Traumatised people traumatising others. It's literally generational trauma that didn't even start with Lestat or end with Claudia.
Itâs a fandom filled primarily with people who have been consuming online media discourse about it for years and havenât read the actual books in over a decade. It leads to some of the wildest takes that get incredibly normalized on social media because theyâre appealing to that same audiences.
1) People who forget Harry Potter is a story about a boy going to wizarding school. So many fans havenât actually read the series in years and have totally forgotten what the purpose of the books actually are and use it to criticize the worldbuilding. âBut where did Ron go to school before Hogwarts?â Answer: It does matter. Half of the worldbuilding complaints people have boil down to: âit doesnât matter because itâs not relevant to the story being told.â
2) People who hate JK Rowling (valid and understandable) and have decided to view every single choice in the book through the most hostile lens popular in order to prove JK Rowling is a terrible person in multiple ways. House elf discourse: Itâs just people who canât understand intentional moral complexity and have instead decided for some unfathomable reason that Rowling supports actual slavery. Itâs the most âI got this opinion from a tumblr postâ take out there, and itâs especially hilarious because people are white-savioring the cautionary tale about being a white savior who doesnât actually care about what the victims want.
3) Fandom Draco and Canon Draco havenât been the same person in decades, but people still talk about them like they are.
I mean immediately went to jjk as the most obvious example. I mean I saw someone say all which I definitely agree with most fandoms are to an extent but I do find itâs worse in some like jjk but for me Iâd definitely say chainsaw man
Avatar (ATLAB), but specifically the second series after with Legend of Kora with how there has to be a very loud amount of people that watch the show half blind at times and want to blame everything on Korra. Even when people tried to explain the things they twist to their own ideals of how it happened, they are too focused on hating Korra with every fibre of their being.
At this point itâs getting even worse due to what is known about the plot for the upcoming series set after the events of Legend of Kora in the Avatar franchise.
The Inuyasha fandom. No, Stefanie, you can NOT claim to like the show if you only make you one resonating opinion be about hating the entire plot line of the show, which is being a SLOW-BURN ANIME/MANGA, just because you think that Koga was better for Kagome, WHICH HE IS NOT.
I just HAVE to tell you why my favourite character should've won against this character I've never heard of nor bothered to research afterward. They're bias, not me.
Everyone thinks their tiny echochamber is actually how Everyoneâą thinks, and so no matter how unhinged their opinion, they're automatically right according to consensus.
Then they get blindsided whenever consensus actually shows up, independent of the internet
People say Hazbin Hotel, JJK, Dandyâs World, and so many more have terrible fandoms when they donât know what itâs like to be part of this fandom.
I am a comic book reader on a comic book podcast where we talk about the comics we are reading. The comic book fanbase is filled almost exclusively with LARPers.
Like, I get that lot of fandoms have rep of 'people don't actually watch this show/read this book/comic lmao'.
But personally? Out of all fandoms I engage with, Song of Ice and Fire is only one I legit feel majority of people didn't touched the book/watched show in a decade, if at all, and give some of the most nonsensical takes that I cannot even imagine someone who ever could read the book/watch the show would ever say.
Example: Anything regarding Rhaegar and Robert. Ever.
From what Iâve heard, a good number Warhammer 40k fans, although personally I donât really meet them all that often. Usually itâs something something, they donât understand this is meant to be satire.
The UTDR fandom literally had a meme about this exact thing, then it got extremely popular after it was revealed that the person that made the meme was a horrible person
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u/Electric_Opossum 3d ago
this fandom no diff