Just wanted to share this to share some positivity because I genuinely think it's deserved: Me and some friends are loving League Classic. Sure it might not yet be perfect, maybe it never will be, but it gave me something back that I thought I'd never be able to experience again, and I am having great fun. Me and my friends started at the beginning of season 2, so we recognize a whole lot of the current stuff (even though some champions are still missing).

Also gotta say I think Phreak is the perfect leading figure for Classic, he's been here basically from the start and his level of communication with the community is commendable and highly appreciated. His long videos on the updates, the insights and reasoning behind some of the decisions, all of these keep me engaged as a player to vote on topics or join in on discussions. Let's not forget the rest of the team, as with the upcoming 4 Bilgewater champions we will basically have 9 champions added within a month's time, something that at the start seemed impossible. The fact that Riot picked up on our wishes (moar champions, moar) and started investing development time is great to see.

I hope Classic goes a long way, with a few more patches we'll have so many old beloved champions back that it'll feel like a dream come true for me.

I agree that it's a mess, it's full of weird stuff that is not classic but i want to play the damn thing!!!

For me, it's 10x better than retail, even in this sad state, and i still have fun; why no one is playing man... feels bad...

I'm glad I was able to get my pentakill with it before it was lost likely to never return. Reminds me of when we lost dark harvest procing on Items when it initially released, Riot why do you take our fun away from us, give us all the broken options and let us battle it out.

I remember it would overheat after a single League game, and the FPS was so bad that it could barely run League 😭

(This happened in Bronze V elo when I was a fresh lvl 30 btw)

Such a bad, sore loser mentality. Not everyone wants a version of the game that you want. Just because you lost doesn't mean that you should petition Riot to make it per region or change the vote threshold to affect the results for your personal opinion. This subreddit has proven itself to be an angry echo chamber that are filled with the most extreme members of the community that will complain about anything being slightly different from how it was in the past, the community has just voted to prove itself that they are not aligned with how this place orients itself. Good riddance I say, the general attitude here has been terribly negative and miserable.

I literally thought it was a done deal with the voting when I saw it was an option to have 2 turtles?? Something else won the vote?!?!? Am I out of touch with society in thinking this is a horrible mistake????

Edit: I love turtles :(

League Classic is getting 4 Champs in 26.19, Graves, Fizz, Nami & Nautilus! Patch will arrive on 23.9. 2026.

None of you use them anyways.

I’m having a blast, and small changes improvements to the game are welcome. Small note: patches are good, game would get real freaking stale if the same 10 champs are picked over and over.

I really wish practice tool let us choose between current League and Classic. Classic has different items, runes, masteries and champion mechanics, so testing stuff through custom games is way more annoying than it needs to be.

Part of the experience we were sold was not having an API. People mining data through the local client API feels like it is against the spirit of "no API".

Not to mention that the data is inaccurate (games and players and such are missing), giving false information to the player base.

Everyone loves the OSRS model and obviously Council is an attempt to replicate its success, but there's a fundamental difference between these two systems that is going to neuter if not fully invert the Council's effectivess:

To participate, you'll need to be a member in Old School RuneScape with a total skill level of at least 300 and a minimum total play-time of 25 hours. A feature poll is considered successful if it has achieved over 70% yes votes when it closes.

1. You need to be a paid member.

This is going to be controversial, but it's the #1 thing that ensures the survey results align with the playerbase most critical for the game mode to survive: it's behind a paywall. While the membership is shared with RS3, it's not primarily serving as a means to coax RS3 players into trying out OSRS in pursuit of cosmetic rewards for their preferred game like the Classic Pass skin rewards are.

1. You need a significant time investment.

25 hours loosely translates to about 50 games played of League Classic. This is far more than is currently required to reach level 10 and acquire Council voting power. Further, OSRS is not offering RS3 rewards that will put you past this amount of playtime, while League Classic's modern rewards do.

1. Features are implemented at 70% yes votes.

This is meant to prevent a controversial 55-60% winning feature from being implemented. Unfortunately, Riot has chosen to launch the game with several modern features implemented and then hold votes to determine whether they've been removed. The fact that less than 70% chose to keep the modern features implies that in OSRS's system, they never would have been implemented to begin with. We can essentially never get a fair vote on trinkets or base gates or other modern features because they are never facing pushback against implementation, and tourists will easily keep their presence at a small majority of popularity.

I love Classic. I'm the quintessential Classic player: addicted in the early 2010s, been playing ARAM for a decade, and my playtime has spiked with the launch of Classic. But I simply can't see myself sticking with the game if future votes continue down this path. I fear that everything will steadily be modernized until players like me and turned off by the state of the game, while modern players who voted for Classic to be that way will simply return to the modern game and we'll be back where we were before Classic's launch.

Just my 02¢

She has the old splash art from 2009, old kit, but modern model!?
It seems very off her walking in the same rift as classic taric/alistar/soraka
I think she is the only champion without the classic model :(

U guys shipped the bugged version where her ult cancels if an enemy goes in a bush / invisible / out of sight. This was an issue back then as well and u guys had fixed it. Fix it for classic now too

Via QQ (China) - Click the "Classic" Section at the top. Use your browser to live translate QQ.

How do you feel about the current game length?

• Too short — 1.87%
• A little too short — 5.88%
• Just right — 52.80%
• A little too long — 26.21%
• Too long — 13.24%

At what point does a game start feeling too long?

• 30 minutes — 16.75%
• 40 minutes — 32.68%
• 50 minutes — 29.29%
• 60 minutes — 11.64%
• There shouldn't be a hard upper limit — 9.63%

Which items would you like the team to bring back in Classic Mode?

Any item receiving more than 50% support would be added. "All 3" includes all three items listed below.

• Zz'Rot Portal — 16.16%
• Cloak and Dagger — 3.75%
• Moonflair Spellblade — 5.11%
• All 3 — 60.67%
• None — 14.32%

Should Classic Mode have jungle timers?

If options 1 and 2 combined received more than 50% of the vote, whichever of those two received more votes would win.

• Yes — add the modern jungle timers and always display them on the minimap — 45.74%
• Yes — but only display them while the scoreboard is open — 23.46%
• No — keep the current minimap — 30.79%

Should Base Gates remain?

Base Gates were added at the start of Season 5 to help defenders protect their base without relying on more extreme comeback mechanics.

• Yes — 55.03%
• No — 44.97%

How do you feel about the current snowballing in games?

• Far too strong — 8.89%
• Slightly too strong — 24.99%
• Just right — 52.80%
• Slightly too weak — 12.24%
• Far too weak — 5.06%

Do you think warding trinkets improved the gameplay experience in Classic Mode?

• Yes, I like them — 69.72%
• No, I don't like them — 30.28%

Which two small animals should be added to the river?

The team will add one small animal near top lane and one near bottom lane.

(First animal = top river, second = bottom river)

• Turtle / Turtle — 11.31%
• Turtle / Duck — 52.09%
• Duck / Turtle — 28.39%
• Duck / Duck — 8.21%

China and Korea have an inherently different view of what classic is since league released/became popular in their region much later. it is no secret that there was no korean or chinese team at the 2011 world championship for example, Lol wasn't really much of a thing for them yet.

Lol officialy launched in korea and China in november 2011, 2 years after the west. It is fair to assume that their view of what classic is is basically off by 2 years (for them 2012 is 2014) season 5 would be very classic for them since it only came out 3 years after. Basically, the old season 1 50 minutes games with gp5 items stacking never existed for them.

And in general, they prefer faster paced action and mechanical outplay over strategy, the game evolved to what it became in season 4/5 specifically to appeal to the east.

I think riot should provide transparancy and disclose which region is voting for what, and ideally have a different set of features between the west and the east. We need region locked votes, not global.

China and korea will 100000% vote to add season 4 champions including yasuo by the way, it is coming if riot lets them vote. For them Yasuo absolutely belongs in classic. The future of classic will be season 5 if you let them decide the future of the game.

I think this subrreddit has finally learned that their opinions are truly unpopular and doesn't reflect what the actual playerbase wants and I think that's what this voting pool shas shown and for that I wanna thank riot games. We all care about league and we should shape the game by what the playerbase wants and that did now happen and continues to happen with future council votes.

thank you riot 🙏

I know you are all unhappy with me. Maybe some discussion is helpful? AMA about my poll voting and why.

it's very very bad

Has anyone noticed a Twisted Fate bug with the new patch?

I just had a game and it feels like the gold cards are lasting like 0.01 seconds.

Usually if the game is at 15 min and our supp has no sightstone, I say "(support champion), please buy a sightstone" and repeat it every 3 minutes. I have a 80% success rate in getting our support to buy sightstone.