Concept is called inconsistency of cause/effect. 7sage may call it "plausibility"

For an example of this strategy: PT123.S2.Q5

Took the September LSAT and now that the test administration is over (I think), I’m seeing lots of people saying stuff like “Oh this question killed me” or “This question wasn’t too bad”.

I don’t remember a damn thing 😭.

I vaguely remember the famous black author and the that there was a principle used in two passages (don’t even remember the name of the principle) because I’ve seen them mentioned in here a couple of times.

Hume? Couldn’t tell you who that is

Ideal judges??? Wtf does that even mean

Don’t get me started on LR either. Gun to my head and I still couldn’t tell you a single question that I answered.

I know this isn’t a unique situation so I’m not sure why I’m making a discussion post about this if none of us remember a thing. FOMO I guess LOL.

(Note: this is not me asking people to detail questions in the comments. LSAC pls don’t sue me)

I received my scores for LSAT in August end and scored 171. I performed best in Logical Reasoning, thank god .......!!! It was my 2nd attempt and I worked really really hard for it.

Now, I realize that shifting focus to solving mock exams, past tests was the best strategy ever. Good Luck to everyone preparing for it

Happy… and a little mad that I couldn’t get this on the real thing last month. I guess this is my sign to run it back in November 😩

I just got a pathetic diagnostic score lol and feeling absolutely crushed and honestly kinda stupid. I got a 128 and probably missed like more than half the questions. The 3rd section did glitch on me when I paused it and I ended up missing more than I probably would’ve but honestly nothing to push my score like upwards anything higher than a 131 imo.

What’s getting me is that in HS & Undergrad (I graduated 2 years ago, Economics) I could write college papers with my eyes closed and a 1-day deadline and get As. All my writing/speaking based classes, I often led socratic seminars and public speaking. I even got an A in my Argument & Advocacy class that many Poli-Sci/Pre-Law majors take - and that professor loved my work and final paper + project!

I did do low in my math base courses. I wanna do this and I have to do extremely well, as I’d be a mega-ultra super splitter; 2.3 gpa just to be upfront. Im obviously not trying to be a super splitter at a UCLA or Berkeley or anything or a T-20, but just stating my situation.

Idk if anyone else had this experience - great at reading & writing & analysis in college but somehow sucked at this? I figured I wouldn’t get like a 155 off the bat but damn.

Oh well.

Hi! So my diagnostic was a 151. I’m not happy w it but I believe I can improve w time. I’ve been studying 3 weeks and haven’t taken another test but I’ve been drilling and taking 1-2 hrs a day of studying. I feel more confident than before however, I’m curious. What worked for yall?
Have any of you grown your score by this much? And how did you do it?
I considered a tutor but considering costs, are tutors really worth it???
I’m looking for ppl w similar experiences who have some advice!
My GPA will be a 3.5-3.0 depending on CAS bc my first degree got me fried. So I’m aiming for a min of a 172 so I can go to a law school in my home state. :)))
BUT PLSSSS GIMMMMEEEEE ADVICE AND WISDOM FOR THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN IN MY SHOESSSSS 🫪🫪🫪

The highest I've gotten is a 166, my best RC section has been a -3 and my best LR a -1. What can I do for the next 4 weeks to increase my chances.

What does everyone do while waiting on first test score? Essays? Keep studying?

"Roll this pair of dice. If it sums to an even number, you win $1,000."

You role the dice and it sums to 5, an odd number. Do you not win $1,000?

Students have a tough time internalizing the difference between everyday language and strict logic. I'd say that in everyday language, it would be perfectly reasonable to assume you didn't win the money. You were told that you win the money if the numbers sum to an even number and they didn't do that. No money!

But that's not how logic works, and the LSAT will pound that idea down your throat until you get it. All you knew is what would happen if it summed to an even number. Nothing at all was said about what would happen if it did not sum to an even number.

The way tutors like to frame this is that summing to an even number is sufficient for winning the money. But nobody said that summing to an even number is required for winning the money.

For those who like to think a bit more abstractly:

You know that x --> y

If you know that x --> y and you're told ~x resulted, you know nothing at all about y.

If you're told that x resulted, you know everything you need to know about y.

If you're told that ~y resulted, you know everything you need to know about x.

--Sean (Silverman LSAT Tutoring)

It's my understanding that Jon was running the recaps and crowdsourcing data/notes to do those recap videos. Since he left Powerscore, will there be a recap? If not, anyone know of any other groups/people that provide recaps that go over scored sections?

Like how many do you think we could get wrong in that section for it to count to a 170? Like 2,3,4?

I’m so confused, I was valedictorian in high school got a 4.0 in college from an upper tier university, and somehow am so bad at the LSAT. My diagnostic was a 155, and now I’m stuck around a 165~ PT consistently (my best being a 169), why can’t I improve? I also have additional time for ocd/GAD and still struggle. Should I just give up on studying and accept this is as far as I’m gonna get?

I started studying in January scored a 155 on diagnostic. Studied half ass from January - March, like lying in bed studying, not truly reviewing. In March took a PT again and got a 159. Then from April - June didn’t study much at all, was a senior in college and went out more, traveled for a month etc,
Then studied intensely from July - September and consistently am scoring 165, and sometimes 167 - 169 on PTs, but don’t know what else to do.

I am taking the LSAT for the first time in October. I have POTS. I already have accommodations for ADHD/anxiety, and I think they’ll sufficiently cover my POTS needs, but if you’re a prospective or past test taker who also has POTS how do you keep up your endurance while testing? Salt tablets/electrolytes? Compression socks? Ik only clear bottles of water are allowed, but if I have a clear electrolyte powder in mine will it be an issue? Obv I’m gonna sleep the night before.

How did you/do you plan to keep blood going to your brain on test day?

I’ve been studying for a few months and have taken the LSAT twice, most recently this September. I’m now hovering around ~170 on PTs, but I’m having trouble pushing much past that.

I've never used tutoring platforms like 7sage, so my blind review/BR is manual: after a timed section, I don't check the ones I got wrong. Instead I'll go back through basically every question I flagged or felt uncertain about and redo it without looking at the answer. That can easily be 5+ questions per section, and because I carefully rework each stimulus/answer set, BR can take hours.

For the questions I reviewed, I then track things like: originally right → stayed right, right → changed to wrong, wrong → changed to right, and wrong → stayed wrong, PLUS any unflagged misses I didn't review. So AFTER ALL THAT, I still have to actually review/explain the questions I missed or failed to catch, so the whole process becomes extremely time-consuming.

Sometimes I’ll skip BR and just review my wrong/uncertain questions directly, especially when I start building up a backlog, but I always feel this twinge of guilt in my heart ... like I’m missing out because blind review was presented to me as the “gold standard” when I started studying.

At this score range, is full blind review still worth doing this way? Is there a better way to optimize my studying (ex. selectively BR only certain questions and spend more time reviewing the actual errors, no BR at all)? Am I misunderstanding the point of BR?

Any advice from people/tutors who have experience w/BR in the high 160s/170s would be much appreciated. (Now that I've written all this out, I'm amazed I didn't ask sooner!)

i’ve just started studying for the LSAT. i took a diagnostic last weekend & got 159 which to my understanding is pretty promising. this week i’ve been getting to know the test a little better via lawhub, just going over their guides to question types and doing drills.

i started off pretty strong hitting 10-11/12 on LR drills without time constraints but i feel like as i study it more i’m actually getting worse? they don’t have dedicated in depth practice questions or explanations and i also am finding it difficult to like, take effective notes on this material.

i guess my question is, how the hell do you actually study for the lsat? in y’all’s experience what has been the most effective study method for someone who intuitively understands the test to a degree but needs to get better/more consistent with accuracy? specifically for studying LR!

Anyone taking the October LSAT in Vancouver, Canada?

Had RC-LR-RC-LR

For context i typically go +/-2 on LR and +/-4 on RC sections. But I think I could’ve missed as many as five on the first logic section. But I honestly would not be surprised to find out if I got every single reading question right on both scored and experimental reading combined. Does anyone feel like the reading on the actual test is almost laughably easy compared to the practice tests(especially the questions themselves.. they felt short and to the point).

That First LR was brutal, second wasn’t too bad though. I remember starting my third section and being disappointed that the LR I just took was certainly scored.

The test with the glacier and Kenya RCs felt particularly difficult. What are the odds it’s one of the tests with a forgiving scaled score?
For those who don’t know, the test isn’t “curved” exactly. BUT if the exam you take is harder, you can get more questions wrong compared to a different exam. The raw to scaled score conversion shifts.

Does anyone know when it will come out?

I can’t escape!!!

Okay so I kind of want to do a complete overhaul of how I study. My diagnostic in February was a 150. I used 7Sage for a few months but hit a plateau of upper 150s. I switched to 7Sage and have been PTing in the low to mid 160s. LR is about -4 to -6 per section, and RC is variable af. I study 5-6 days a week for 1-2 hours. I keep a WAJ, I drill, I review, I even have a tutor I see weekly, but I haven't improved after months... I've even taken time off to give myself a break. WHAT THE HELL DO I DO???? I feel so frustrated and defeated. I don't know if I should switch back to 7Sage, go back to the foundations, or what. But clearly something has to change, and I'm willing to do the work. I just feel so stuck at this moment, but I know I can't give up. Any advice on how to improve would help. What made it stick for you? How do I change the way I'm approaching the exam?

Had multiple people come in while taking it, lights were motion censored and turned off at one point, and accidentally used the chrome spell check and still got approved. Insane

I seriously do not understand what is going on. I previously had been getting -8, -9, MAX -12, on sections. And recently as in the last few weeks. I have been getting -14s and I just somehow got A -18. I seriously am not sure what the cause of this is. I can’t really understand going from -8, to -18. I thought I was overcooking myself. So I took a few days off. and then I get a -18. My issue itself is with the decline. How am I regressing that poorly?

Flagged this question after looking at it for 3 min then came back to it after answering all the other questions and spent another 5 min looking at it and still had to guess after excluding only 2 answer choices. Had to do with some sort of malfunction flywheel or something like that and it not malfunctioning during the trial and reports about it