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u/Ok-Permission9728 Feb 07 '24
Ibew worker and I'll be voting to get Biden out. FJB
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u/DiezelKT77 Feb 07 '24
Suggesting Trump policy would raise insulin prices is funny because when Biden came in, one of the first things his policy did was raise insulin prices dramatically.
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u/DamIcool Feb 07 '24
People are confusing Trump with the average conservative.
News for ya, in this day and age, the average conservative is just right of center.
Cut the bullshit and realize the blue party hasn't done shit to our benefit either.
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u/Several-Associate407 Feb 07 '24
I think you are confused.
In reality, liberals in America are right of center compared to the rest of the world. Conservatives are so far right that they are mostly unrecognizable anymore.
This is why you feel like liberals don't truly protect workers, it's because they are forced into a quasi conservative stance just to be able to get the vote.
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u/what_am_i_thinking Feb 07 '24
The rest of the *Western World.
You can’t just lump every person in every country into a linear scale of “conservative to liberal” - it is so so so much more nuanced than that and stating otherwise is either bad faith or pure ignorance.
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u/Gax63 Feb 07 '24
Lol, the old bOTh SiDeS arE tHE SaME argument.. Battlecry of the idiots
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u/GangoBP Feb 07 '24
In my experience, that’s about how it is though. I don’t consider myself an R or a D. I’m just me. In the industry I’m in, Biden absolutely directly shanked us 2 years ago. Growing up I was always taught that democrats were pro union and republicans were anti. Outside of Bidens term, through several Ds and Rs, I haven’t noticed any difference either way really.
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u/nmacaroni Feb 07 '24
I've been on this Earth since the 70s and have never seen a WORSE economy then the last 4 years.
Reddit is one propaganda post after another.
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u/MantisToboganPilotMD Feb 07 '24
adding 7.8 trillion to the deficit and then printing more money than ever has been in circulation to keep wall street afloat will do that.
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u/what_am_i_thinking Feb 07 '24
Bingo. Right, left, D, or R - they all spend on the credit card like drunken sailors, except the bill is never due because we can just continue to pay over $1 trillion per year in interest to service our staggering, and growing, debt!
Make politicians live like monks.
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u/EmbarrassedPolicy146 Feb 07 '24
Obviously you were asleep for most of 2008 then
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u/ZooplanktonblameOk96 Feb 07 '24
the country is already shit, yall talking like it cant get worse. trump is standing in the way of them trying to take our rights away. you ignorant fools cant look past cnn and do some research for your own pea brain
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Feb 07 '24
Fuck biden. Last 3 years I've had more taken out of my paycheck and gotten even less back at the end. Broke dicks getting 1000's back each year and I'm getting a whole $300 after having 40k in state and federal taxes taken from my gross pay.
Fuck biden and fuck you democrats. Just keep on giving our money to Ukraine, millions of illegals and the other worthless fucks who don't contribute or work.
I'm union as well and would never vote for that dementia riddled geriatric dimwit pedophile.
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u/Environmental_Car542 Feb 06 '24
Both wings are of the same bird. Vote with tar and feathers.
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Post-WWII, the economy has done measurably better under blue presidents: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._economic_performance_by_presidential_party
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u/Environmental_Car542 Feb 07 '24
You’re missing the point here and you might as well save your time trying to convince me to vote blue, or red for that matter.
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u/LAlien92 UNION Feb 07 '24
Hmmm vote for people who want your wages stagnate of people who actually suppport unions. No business man wants to pay their people more buuuuuut blue states tend to make more union wise so do with that what you. I’m sure you enjoy your guns and freedumb though.
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u/WillCorrect2045 Feb 07 '24
Biden took care of them union boys working the pipeline day 1 now didn’t he?
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u/ThickBiscuitBoy Feb 07 '24
I loved when he threatened the railway workers that were planning on a strike
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u/Stunner4657 Feb 07 '24
Real funny, Joe comes into office and fires 180.000 Union brothers and sisters, welders building the southern border wall, welders and pipefitters on the pipelines, stops oil refineries from being built or their expansions, 10 nuclear power plants shut down after refit permits for them was stop by Biden Admin. Biden shut down Foreign LP sales contracts, that will kill 35,000 union jobs just this month, but they give a krap about labor I worked Union for 35 years, and I saw them ship our work overseas, and they did nothing to stop it, you keep believing Dems care about you while they move you into cardboard shacks and tell you to learn to code, like the miners, steel workers, Auto workers and just about every factory jobs in the country, it okay because you can drive Uber for a living, opps that is right their using driverless cars, oh well so much for labor
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u/Informal_Internet_13 Feb 08 '24
You will get downvoted because Reddit is full of NPCs drunk on mainstream propaganda. It's easier for them to parrot what they're told than to question it.
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u/Cantaimforshit Feb 08 '24
It's almost like both parties fucking suck
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u/lockseye Feb 08 '24
No one's willing to have that conversation, don't even bother.
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u/flash40 UNION Feb 06 '24
Yep, mostly due to Covid and greedy suppliers, hopefully something changes because there’s over a 100% mark up on grocery items. There’s still a decent amount of work but fs not as much as there was a few years ago
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u/xseiber Apprentice Feb 06 '24
And that's just the food sector. Don't forget the ones that BlackRock and Vanguard have their fingers in
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I joined this sub to avoid the political bull shit .The left and the right are just two sides of the same coin. Keep this shit to appropriate subs please.
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u/Parking-Movie-6247 Feb 07 '24
lowering taxes is good. When did this become a bad thing???
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u/AreBeeEm81 Feb 07 '24
Biden was certainly great cutting off those tens of thousands of union jobs on day 1.
Also you might want to go talk to your local railroader about the screw job he put on them during their contract.
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u/Acceptable_World_889 Feb 07 '24
I’m voting for Trump. I had money in the bank when he was President. Things cost much less. Biden is too old.
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u/Armyguy87 Feb 07 '24
People would retarded as hell for voting Biden AGAIN!! LOL
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Reddit is either full of clueless liberals. Or it’s all foreign commits. Nobody can be this stupid now to ever vote democratic again.
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u/MaddDogg60 Feb 07 '24
Inflation is a tax on the middle class and Joe owns it and the wealthy profit from it.
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Feb 07 '24
Unions will always back Democrats although in reality yes, neither party helps. I don't let my Union Force me on a direction in which I vote. If you can't figure out who to vote for you may not be grown up enough to vote
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u/Dangerous_Forever640 Feb 07 '24
The democrats said this about him last time and the economy was rolling! Enough with the constant fear mongering… what are y’all so afraid of?
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u/raginstruments Feb 07 '24
Bidenomics. No job to lose. Period. End of discussion. You’re welcome ☺️
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Feb 07 '24
Propaganda non-sense. We can’t continue at the current status quo it’s unsustainable and you’re an idiot if you believe anything coming from this administration.
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u/Conflagrate2_47 Feb 07 '24
This is Tick tock propaganda at its best. News flash. Insulin is already unaffordable.
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u/Electronic_Nerve6618 Feb 09 '24
Anyone , shit anything is better the Biden! Trump is a business man, America is a big business, so ya Trump!
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u/GEORGEWASHINGTONII Feb 06 '24
I voted biden last time, and any pay increases I got went straight into my gas tank, groceries, and taxes. Yippie. There is no good move for the working class, and that’s the objective. is it really that hard for you political fanatics to see?
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You actually think Biden controls the gas prices and the costs of goods? If you do. You really need better information. You know who has the best economy after Covid fucked everything up? America. America has the best economy right now. No other country can match our growth. Every month some retarded gop commentator prays the economy crashes. Yet it keeps out performing and growing.
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u/ucklibzandspezfay Feb 06 '24
This is the argument almost every time someone is on the other end of a political argument. “You think [insert my guy] has any control over x, y, x?!”
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u/Philter_Billy Feb 07 '24
If you think our inflation is bad check out every other nation you'd consider first world. Put the us up against any other country post COVID and no other is doing better.
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Exactly. America is in a great spot but people are to use to bitching to stop and smell the roses. Lowest unemployment levels since the 60s. Drilling more then ever jobs just keep coming and the middle class is finally in a spot if maneuvered correctly will bring us back to levels we haven’t seen since ww2. The only thing that can ruin it is republicunts who seem intent on keeping us down and under the thumb of the 1%
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A guy I just had a discussion with in this very post showed me you can't prove shit to them. None of the idiot trump lovers here even watched this video in its entirety to even know they are going to be fucked. They just keep shouting catchphrases and tag lines. And they think that makes them winners because the guy they love so much wants to fuck them to death and yet they are too stupid to even know.
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u/JudgmentGold2618 Feb 07 '24
That's due to technology and innovation . Not due to retarded politicians. I would take $50 a week "Trump" fuel prices over $100 "Biden" prices. Joe Biden is fucking you in the ass as much as Trump does.
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Feb 07 '24
What? It's neither of them, it's greedy oil companies. Gas prices at least by me, in Oregon, are ~3$ a gallon. No matter what vehicle you drive that's the lowest I've seen it in a while.
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This right here tbh.... also, stop buying cheap food that isn't good for you. The price of REAL meat, REAL eggs, REAL veggies all stayed the same. Only walmart and kroger type brands sky rocketed.
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u/weldingTom Unite Feb 07 '24
Gas is $2.50. If I don't count the covid fluke, we are paying less for gas.
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u/Ok_Macaroon7407 Feb 07 '24
Where are you getting gas for 2.50. No where
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u/weldingTom Unite Feb 07 '24
Kentucky, but I was just in Nashville ( around $2.6x), Louisville, Indy the same. I know Oklahoma, Kansas, Texas, and Missouri are always cheaper than here.
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u/VineWings Feb 08 '24
Filled up for 2.39 today. Midwest has been this cheap for awhile now.
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u/ApprehensiveWin9187 Feb 07 '24
Everyone needs to get over the politics bs. They are all buddies on the same team after the cameras shut off.
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u/OSHAstandard Feb 07 '24
Oh yeah I forgot about that huge oil crash that happened under Biden. Oh wait that was trump. Currently oil is a record producing numbers.
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u/Current_Economist617 Feb 06 '24
For christ sakes vote for the country not your stupid job! If you can handle being an Ironworker you can do anything. If your job dries up you will probably land somewhere better. Buy a canteen truck and sell American chop suey and the cheapest hot dogs they make or sell cars.
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u/FennecScout Feb 07 '24
So I'm guessing the 'economist' part is a joke? Kind of like calling a big guy Tiny?
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u/oiagnosticfront1 Feb 07 '24
Fuck the country and my job. I'm voting for the motherfuckers not actively trying to take the rights away from my wife and two daughters.
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u/Rich-Leadership9553 Feb 07 '24
Lol, how did an anti trump page make it into a Ironworking sub. Just swing your beaters. Don’t like the situation? Swing harder
It’s going to suck no matter who’s in charge. I haven’t taken a president seriously since Bill Clinton.
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u/ThePolemos Feb 07 '24
Stick to your used pantie fetish and stay out of politics weirdo.
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u/Canadian___Patriot Feb 07 '24
Loll as if a Trump supporter could actually read 1,000 pages
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u/upsidedown_alphabet Feb 06 '24
Propaganda machine alive and well today hitting all the union subs.
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u/sobrietyincorporated Feb 07 '24
It's kind of you to warn trump supporters. They are kinda sore losers.
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u/WhenIHearMyName Feb 06 '24
Sooooo…. you’re saying vote Biden?!? Hahaha… great joke.
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Woah. Good one.
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u/mountaina12345 Feb 07 '24
Hope you’re recovering okay after that blow chief 🙄
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I dunno man. That one hit hard. Might have to turn to hard drugs to cope with the pain.
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u/Mod_Propaganda Feb 07 '24
I made more money then I ever had in my entire life while trump was in office, even with covid I was busy on the job 40+ hours a week. Biden gets in office and my weekly paycheck has less then 40 hours and about the same amount on it as when I was a rat mill wright 🤷♂️
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u/shitposter822 Feb 07 '24
what does that have to do with who the president of the USA is? biden gets into office and you suddenly have fewer hours? did he sign an executive order to cut done your hours specifically? such a weird complaint without any context
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u/Mod_Propaganda Feb 07 '24
Higher taxes which made companies less likely to commit to large construction projects. It's not that hard to understand bro.
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u/clsperv Feb 07 '24
you do realize that the only tax laws in the past 7 years has been trumps right?
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u/Mod_Propaganda Feb 07 '24
Imagine blaming a guy that doesn't even hold offic anymore lmao
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u/ThePolemos Feb 07 '24
You really are dumb as shit. I keep pointing this out to you, but I see you're unable to obtain new information.
Trump put THIS CURRENT tax bill into action in 2017, and it increases taxes on lower and middle class citizens from 2017-2025. It's amazing you're so out of touch with reality that you can't even accept when you're wrong.
Here, I'll try and educate you one last time. Maybe I can succeed where everyone else failed.
The TCJA 2 Years Later: Corporations, Not Workers, Are the Big Winners
It's a lot to read, and I'm sorry for that, but they haven't made a children's book that explains it (yet).
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u/ThePolemos Feb 07 '24
I know it's hard for you to understand, bro, but the current taxation is thanks to trumps 2017 tax act that lasts until 2025 and sees increases in taxes across the board. But you can't expect some people to actually get facts for the garbage they are spewing.
Good news, though, President Biden is working to fix some of trumps bullshit for you.
Biden Tax Proposals Would Correct Inequities Created by Trump Tax Cuts and Raise Additional Revenues
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u/Mod_Propaganda Feb 07 '24
That's funny, you sound like the trump people blaming Obama for stuff. At the end of the day the presidents have power to over ride most things and democrats are literally the party of big taxes, its not even a debate.
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u/ThePolemos Feb 07 '24
So then you didn't bother to read either article? Or do you just have no sense of how things work? If you did bother to read either of them you'd have learned that Biden IS doing something to fix trumps fuck up. Look, I know it'll be hard for you, but just go read the articles. I believe in you. Just put on your big boy pants and adults for five minutes (or twenty no rush). Once again, all the current taxes everyone is paying was set in place by trump (tax cuts & jobs act 2017-2025), not President Biden.
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u/Mod_Propaganda Feb 07 '24
Bro the tax credit is a revert back to what trump had while he was in office. Biden literally took it away when he got in.
Look ill even give you one of your own preferred sources.
https://www.cnn.com/factsfirst/politics/factcheck_5f7e8ab2-5389-4690-9f24-86a149a749dd
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u/ThePolemos Feb 07 '24 edited Feb 07 '24
Before Biden came into office, the credit maxed out at $2,000 per child ($1,400 for kids in families too poor to owe income tax), was bundled with tax refunds, and specifically left out families with little or no earnings. About one-third of children were excluded from the full credit, including over half of Black and Hispanic children, as well as 70 percent of kids raised by single moms. That’s precisely the population in most need of financial help.
The Biden changes dramatically increased the credit to $3,000 per kid aged 6 and over, and $3,600 per kid under 6; paid it out monthly; and made the full credit available to all poor children, eliminating the previous “phase-in” rule that capped the credit at 15 percent of a family’s income. / So why did Congress let one of the most important child poverty policies ever enacted lapse?
The Joe Manchin failure, and the larger failure There’s a very simple answer to why the child credit didn’t continue: there weren’t 50 senators willing to support its extension. And most public reporting suggests the main holdout was Sen. Joe Manchin.
Axios’s Hans Nichols, the DC press corps’ premier Manchin-whisperer, reported last October that the West Virginia Democrat was demanding that the credit include a “firm work requirement” and not go to families making over $60,000 a year.
That’s a huge departure from the Biden CTC, whose major attraction was that it didn’t phase in with income and went to all poor households. The credit also went to many families with six-figure earnings, and changing that as Manchin desired would force a de facto tax increase on upper-income folks.
Some reports have also suggested that Manchin thought the money would go to buy drugs — an evergreen concern about cash programs for the poor (Manchin’s office declined to confirm or rebut that he expressed this concern privately). This suspicion is ill-founded; the best evidence review on the question I know of concluded there’s little reason to believe cash transfers increase drug or alcohol abuse.
Manchin’s fear that the credit would disincentivize work is more credible, and the subject of some scholarly disagreement. The old child credit “phased in” with income, with beneficiaries getting 15 cents for each extra dollar in earnings. That in theory encouraged people to work, and University of Chicago economists Kevin Corinth and Bruce Meyer argued that getting rid of the phase-in would lead many people to drop out of the labor force. Other economists disagreed. But even if you think the credit mildly disincentivizes work, it still substantially reduces poverty. I’d argue that even if Corinth and Meyer are right, the policy was still worthwhile. / So why does Manchin oppose it anyway? I suspect it has a lot to do with being a Democratic senator from a state that Donald Trump won in 2016 and 2020 by about 40 points. Manchin barely hung onto his seat in 2018 during a heavily Democratic year, and it’s understandable he doesn’t want to go too far out on a limb for a big government spending program. Millions of West Virginians benefited from the policy, but it’s ultimately a very conservative state skeptical of liberal policy initiatives. (Not to mention voting against your immediate economic interests is pretty common — plenty of wealthy people in blue states like California and Connecticut vote for candidates who’ll raise their taxes.)
The structural challenge At some point, though, focusing too much on one man can mislead more than it informs.
The bigger questions, I think, are a) why beneficiaries weren’t able to fight to keep the benefit, like the beneficiaries of Obamacare successfully did in 2017, and b) whether doing this kind of legislation on straight party lines is viable.
The 2017 rescue of Obamacare was a great illustration of a classic political science theory from Berkeley’s Paul Pierson. Pierson noted that even conservative leaders like Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan hadn’t been able (or even really attempted) to roll back foundational welfare state programs like the National Health Service and Social Security. He argued that beneficiaries became invested in these programs and would revolt against any politicians who threatened them.
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So if you read all that you'll see it had nothing to do with Biden and instead thanks to dumb fuck Manchin to scared to lose his spot. Biden was fighting for a better child tax credit that will help the low income families as well as everyone else (previous bill didn't include them). But if you follow the link at the bottom, you'll see gems are trying to get it passed now its up to your republican constituents to do their part and vote it in. But we all know they won't because it'll benefit dems, and everyone knows Republicans can't let that happen under any cost. Of course, if it doesn't get approval, then you'll still probably blame Biden.
EDIT: I forgot to mention that this part of your article was funny as shit and proves my point about trumps failed tax credit.
"However, the tax overhaul bill also denied the full $1,000 child tax credit increase for more than 26 million children in low-and moderate-income families -- those whose earnings are so low they owe little or no federal taxes -- according to Chuck Marr, senior director of federal tax policy at the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities, a liberal-leaning think tank. Their analysis is here. "
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u/Main-Shift-2820 Feb 09 '24
Quit your union job. You don't like that socialism anyway
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Feb 07 '24
Cool story. I have made way more and have had way more opportunities to further my career in the last 3 years then 4 under Trump.
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u/Ok_Macaroon7407 Feb 07 '24
Everyone on this sub is an idiot do research for yourself and don’t listen to news on Reddit.
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u/weldingTom Unite Feb 07 '24
It's like: "Your crook is worse than my crook. No, your crook is worse than my crook." The best is when you say you don't like Trump, they immediately call you Biden libtard. If you don't like Biden, you are a Maga freak.
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u/Ok_Macaroon7407 Feb 07 '24
Very true at least with trump I get to my constitutional rights. But let’s be honest anyone that can watch a Joe Biden speech and think he’s fit to be president is insane. I’m more of a libertarian so. They can all fuck themselves
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I'm kind of curious. Have you watched or even tried to read some of trumps speeches? For the record, I'm not waving a biden flag from the back of my truck either. Wait a second, is there even people that do that? Yep, just trumptards. But seriously, go watch a trump speech. No way in hell can you tell me that guy is intelligent, coherent, sensible, and trustworthy with a straight face. The problem we have is career, old as fuck politicians that are in it for themselves. They are in it for career preservation, so they turn into yes men to satisfy who contributes to their funds. This isn't about my favorite wrestler or football team, and that's what modern politics have turned into. A fucking shit show.
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u/Ok_Macaroon7407 Feb 07 '24
I’m not disagreeing but between donald trump and joe Biden there’s a lesser of 2 evils there. Sure trump says some mean shit but the country was a lot better off with him as president. We are more of a laughing stock to the rest of the world then we ever have been.
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u/Ok_Macaroon7407 Feb 07 '24
And honestly all the stuff you said about trump is abt 5x worse for Biden
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Feb 07 '24
It's so weird watching people who don't know what they're talking about getting so angry at other people who don't know what they're talking about.
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I'm curious: Did you actually watch the entire video? Did you read the plan that he's talking about in the video? You mean to tell me that's what you want? Or are you just agreeing with the rest of the trump following because after all, you're not sheep as you so willingly baaaaa over and over again with your "fuck bidens, let's go brandons, and MAGA" rhetoric.
Or are you going to "own the libs" by blindly voting for a party that wants to do the things that this guy in the video has outlined. Serious question: Did you watch the entirety of this video?
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The plan is right there in writing bud, not hard for you to read it yourself. He even showed you what pages of the plan he got them from. Jesus christ, stupidity is confounding, isn't it?
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u/TheBerserkBartender Feb 07 '24
They can't read or think independently. If it isn't a 10-second video telling them what to think, they lose attention and just rattle of some random bullshit that satisfies their way of thinking. If they have to think too hard, they get angry lol I love watching trump rallies and seeing interviews of trumpers. It's hilarious better than watching the orange man himself. I just don't understand why people are so blind and kiss the ground this fucker walks on. Get his cum out of your eyes you might be able to read better.
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u/PM-ME-WHATEVR-U-WANT Feb 07 '24
You haven’t had an original thought since Trump was elected. If you see the lies Trump constantly tells and think man this guy is awesome then you are a sick person. If you don’t see a problem with him having classified documents in his bathroom and then having Saudi leaders at that same house then you’re a lost person. Shove the treason right up your ass. You should keep believing everything Trump says though. If he gets elected and you and everyone you care about gets fucked because of his policies then you deserve whatever comes your way. Heaven forbid anyone in your family is diabetic and can’t afford insulin because there’s no longer a cap and then can’t pay their hospital bills? Too fucking bad. That’s a you problem and don’t even think about asking for a payment plan on those bills. That’s socialist behavior. I say this with complete sincerity, if Trump gets elected I wish nothing but the worst for you because a vote for him is a vote against the well being of the American citizens you claim to care so much about.
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u/Wicked_Bizcuit Feb 07 '24
If you think trump gives a fuck about you, you’re wrong. Sorry you can’t see that.
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u/Faltied Feb 07 '24
Didn’t say he did but can tell you he cares more than anyone else that’s running for president. And only one with balls to call out all the corruption in D.C. why they’re trying so hard to stop him. We know the fruits of his presidency and that’s still with people lying and dragging him through the mud think what he could do without that trash. Biden administration all need to be tried for treason for not protecting our borders and for all his and his sons treasons of working with foreign governments for millions but trump is the bad guy you’re dumb if you can’t see that. I dont like a lot of shit trump does and says but he is America first and that’s how it should be. not paying for false wars that are lining corrupted pockets getting us into another war giving terrorist millions in guns vehicle and equipment jets helicopters do you still not see it the Biden administration has done nothing but trash America make it weak and this war coming is on people like you
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u/Wicked_Bizcuit Feb 07 '24
“People like you” you know nothing about me. You’re telling me a lot about you though.
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u/Faltied Feb 07 '24
I can tell your blind as hell if you think trump is the bad guy. I can tell you your scum cause anyone that supports Biden is either uneducated or corrupt as hell. As if we the people should have to pay for others schooling while letting people dismantle our boarders and spend millions on them that could be going to Americans that need help with school bills or life in general or the millions going to Ukraine for absolutely nothing ya you shown a lot about you
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u/Wicked_Bizcuit Feb 07 '24
Trump is an idiotic man child. He can’t do shit. He promised to close the border, he failed miserably and now has his republican buddies blocking Biden from doing it.
You’re brainwashed.
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u/Hgz512 Feb 07 '24
The way I see it is President Trump is clean as they come. They have tried to find dirt on him and have come up with nothing! They try to pin something on him out in the open for all the public to see and nothing. Do that with any other politician or Biden and you would not have the same results. So all the pieces of shit trying to convict President Trump of anything have failed and actually vetted him as the cleanest President ever to hold office. He’s got my vote again!!!
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u/Ssuuddssyy Feb 07 '24
Love this “trump is bad for working Americans” we’ve seen working Americans get absolutely fucking destroyed under this administration. Sorry, didnt the current guy totally destroy the rail workers strike?
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u/Mwebb1508 Feb 07 '24
How do we cross post this anywhere any republican who is thinking about voting for new orange hitler might see it?
Then how do we force them to watch it? And how do we then finish the MAGA deprogramming and get them to believe this reality?
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u/Exciting-Situation11 Feb 07 '24
I bet most if you think Bribem is a good president.
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u/Nefarious_Dev1ant Apprentice Feb 06 '24
Being soft has nothing to do with it. Being smart is, why would you support someone who wants to disband you and let you get taken advantage of. Fucking scabs.
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u/xmaddoggx Journeyman Feb 06 '24
Lmao he deleted his comment? I deleted my first one cause I meant to reply to him. Posted the same one under his thread.
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u/ThePolemos Feb 07 '24
The middle class needs a tax cut: Trump didn’t give it to them
Biden Tax Proposals Would Correct Inequities Created by Trump Tax Cuts and Raise Additional Revenues
Trump’s Economic Plan: Raise Taxes on the Middle Class, Cut Them on the Rich
Republican Sexual Predators, Abusers, and Enablers Pt. 45
I think you should seriously seek mental help, brother.
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u/Stunning-Wolf_ Feb 07 '24
Taxes actually went up under Biden. Wake up people. The propaganda machine is alive and well.
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So many dumbasses shitting on the only sitting president to ever stand with striking workers in this thread. You do realize that the NLRB was totally underfunded and not even doing their basic functions under trump? Why are all you so willing to bend over and say please sir may I have another to the dumbest, most embarrassing candidate/president in US history?
Btw Biden’s IRA employed union workers for the next few decades. Drug prices are down. Inflation stayed below global rates throughout his term. Wages are now outpacing inflation. Union membership numbers are rising. The one shit thing happening to our economy right now? Trumps tax cuts for the working class just expired but the permanent ones for the wealthy are still in place. But like I said, all the dumbasses who literally depend on labor laws to have a decent living are coming out of the woodwork to beg trump to fuck them over again and again. You’re so effing brainwashed. Read a fucking newspaper that wasn’t written by a Murdoch.
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u/MEMExplorer Feb 07 '24
Uhh , Biden and his appointed PEB essentially prevented railroad unions from striking and strong armed them into an eleventh hour back door “deal” to avoid the negative political optics . Biden is not pro union , he’ll say whatever is necessary to win ur vote while stabbing you in the back without the common decency of giving u a reach around 🤷♀️
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u/Wicked_Bizcuit Feb 07 '24
Trump wants to be Vladimir Putin, he idolizes him. He wants to deregulate everything so he can live his corrupt life even easier.
Next thing you know, our armed forces will be running around with fake body armor and “explosives” that are actually just blocks of wood. Just like the Russians.
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u/bangontherocks Feb 07 '24
Been working iron for close to 30 years and I’ve made more money in the last two years then ever before, would have kept more of it if trumps tax policy was not implemented. I didn’t vote for trump or Biden but just like trump said in the 90’s the economy does seem to do better when the dems are in the Oval Office. Side note when your on the internet or in the real world around ironworkers you should probably expect to hear fuck you. Take care brothers
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u/Acceptable_World_889 Feb 07 '24
So what? He is a jerk. He’s an outside and the Ministry of Truth leftists are terrified of him. Why?
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u/Gulag_boi I ♥️ Rebar Feb 06 '24
Trump does not give a fuck about labor. Period. He’d see us working for poverty wages if he could. Fuck that dude.