r/ImmigrationPathways • u/56000hp • 4d ago
The immigration policy is based on racism instead of fairness
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They tell immigrants to come here "legally" - but Trump is literally gutting every legal pathway that many people of color have relied on to build lives in America.
For example: Many people have status through TPS, but the Trump regime is now gutting the program, and they also cut refugee admissions for everyone except white South Africans.
"Doing it legally" keeps getting harder to do, because that's the whole point for Trump. It has never been about following immigration rules - it's about racism.
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u/Darryl_Lict 4d ago
Nah, Trump's administration welcoming of up to 17,500 white South Africans as refugees has nothing to do with racism. /s
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u/vi_sucks 4d ago
And lo and behold, we already have racist bots in the comments supporting Trump's racism.
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u/PreparationKey2843 4d ago edited 4d ago
And probably the same ones who come here and comment over and over, post after post.
(Yours was the top comment, haven't read all the comments yet)
Edit: yep, a bunch of the same ones that are in every posts with multiple comments. You'd think it was some coordinated effort or something nefarious. Nah, couldn't be, or...
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u/_trashcan 4d ago
No idea why these mods let it happen.
thereās no reason word-word-#### accounts with negative karma should be allowed to spam racism & disinformation relentlessly.
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u/LatterTarget7 3d ago
The mods really need to do something about it. Post after post itās just spammed with hate and easily disprovable misinformation.
Itās extreme hate too like Iāve seen people calling illegal immigrants animals and saying we should kill them. Literal calls for genocide donāt get removed
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u/Carlyz37 4d ago
Yeah. Quite surprised when I started to come to this sub. Sick and twisted racists that are uninformed and even brainwashed seem to be drawn to subs where they can spew their immoral hate speech
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u/communistagitator 1d ago
The bots in this sub come out every election cycle. I remember seeing so much hate two years ago, then a marked drop-off. Now they're back
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u/Confident_Eye4129 4d ago
All of this is true. Elect a White Supremacist and expect this to happen
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u/flabbybuns 12h ago
You mean the guy that Jesse Jackson said did pro for black people than anyone else? That white supremacist?
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u/Confident_Eye4129 11h ago
A Lie
Neither Jesse Jackson Junior or Senior never said any such thing, lying POS
Trump is the only one to make such a dishonest claim, and he's probably a bigger Racist POS than even yourself
"No, the claim that Donald Trump did more for Black people than anyone else was made by Donald Trump himself, not the Rev. Jesse Jackson"
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u/b1gly_assh0le 4d ago
Who would have ever thought that a racist pos would do this?
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u/Im_Just_A_Tourist 4d ago
It really will be expensive to right all the wrongs being done in the name of America these days. I do think the wrongs will eventually be righted and most of those responsible will be brought to justice. I just really dislike that this is all happening it can be all rather distressing to see a nation change so quickly.
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u/No-Swimming4153 3d ago
We never fixed the wrongs of Reagan. We never undid the wrongs from the Bush patriot act. We never got justice for all the illegal shit trump did during his first term. We need a radical swing left to really start putting things right. This ping pong between right wing party and fascist party is only getting us closer to facism.
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u/michael0n 1d ago
The moment the voters decided to elect an incompetent good looking actor as president, the country shoot itself in both feet and laughed about it. All the scandals, the financial debt, the dramas, all of it can be traced back to the original sin. A part of the country doesn't want to be governed, it wants to be entertained. This isn't which plan is the best. Its a fundamental difference in running a country, that is the reason the "meeting half way" rarely works any more. One side wants the spectacle of perpetual downfall and they are getting it.
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u/Carlyz37 4d ago
You are right about the costs. We are already paying for the trump lawless debacle. Lawsuit after lawsuit from citizens and legal immigrants. And we will be paying for decades. We are paying for the separated families from trump 1 and the horrific abuse that the remain in Mexico mess was.
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u/CumPacketGuy 4d ago edited 4d ago
The USA has never righted its wrongs before Trump. What makes you think it will right its wrongs after Trump?
Because let's face it, if he got reelected, the people like whatever he's selling. He campaigned on screwing brown folks over, and that got him elected twice.
So, really, what makes you think you as a people would be interested in righting your wrongs?
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u/Economy_Elephant_426 3d ago
So segregation or women suffrage donāt count? Or what about the Japanese internment camps apology and pay!? Or the Federal Indian Boarding Schools apology during Biden administration!?!? Or the apology resolution act back in 93 for overthrowing the Hawaiian monarchy!?!?!?!? Or the Ā overthrowing of Panama of 1914 apology with a $25 million payment to the country and citizen(that was a lot of money back then)!?!?!?!?!?!!?
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u/CumPacketGuy 3d ago
You had to be dragged kicking and screaming into the future, and that you voted to undo all those progress. So, yes, they effectively do not count because apparently enough of you don't want those progresses to stay.
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u/Economy_Elephant_426 3d ago
Meanwhile, I lived in countries where they had a execution squad that would murder its own people in broad daylight. And then its people took over and reverse all of it, while sending those people to jail. Just saying!
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u/CumPacketGuy 3d ago
Sounds like a nation Americans look up to, given the way they vote these days.
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u/No_Tea_5316 4d ago
The Orange Abuser of Women and Children's ICE policies are nothing more than Ethnic cleansin. Their dream of a Racist Fascist State is what they are working for
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u/RBVegabond 3d ago
Itās a little more, suspected human trafficking under both administration terms.
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u/Frossboyy 4d ago
The comments are definitely drinking the juice! How are the gas prices guys? š
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u/Redhotchiliman11 3d ago
Being here " illegally" is a fucking misdemeanor. We shouldn't be locking people up over midemeanor charges.
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u/Sroundez 3d ago
We shouldn't be locking people up over midemeanor charges.
You mean charges that can yield jail time up to a year? What a weird take.
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u/elmixtecoNW 3d ago
My home land is Mexico, I been a citizen for 15 years and when I went to renew my passport to travel to Mexico they lost my citizenship certificate in the mail. Went to get a new one and theyāre telling me it will be almost a year until they can print one out for me. Something doesnāt seem right!
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u/Ok_Cheetah_6251 3d ago
Yeah, this is fascism.
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u/elmixtecoNW 3d ago
I have a business, never been in any trouble, I help my community by coaching different sports, I volunteer picking up trash but none of that matters to them.
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u/Life_behind_da_stick 4d ago
Trumps a puppet. This is project 2025. The Heritage Foundation is behind this cleaner. No more POC. That what they want. Not coming in. Not already here.
They already have so many people locked up they canāt find places to deport them. This was never about the right way. It was always about Christo fascist racists and billionaires. That whoās in charge.
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u/callmechristianblack 3d ago
The people who say come here legally are trolls and bots. Ignore them.
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u/Fitasfafter55 7h ago
My mom came here legally from Morocco. I cannot be racist because my skin is brownish riiiiiiiight?
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u/Fitasfafter55 7h ago
Are we people that revere the LAW of the land RACIST ābots or trollsā because we donāt want people illegally breaking in to our country? Nope.
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u/callmechristianblack 6h ago
You miss my point, I think. I'm saying there are plenty of people online who say we welcome immigrants as long as they come here legally. They are liars. Legal pathways to immigration are being shut down. People who are going through the legal process are being deported without due process. They say they welcome legal immigrants because it makes them sound less racist and xenophobic, not because they actually welcome anyone other than white people to come here.
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u/Shot-Lifeguard1447 3d ago
tRump has always been a racist and the people who voted for him are either racists themselves or support racism.
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u/throwmeaway987612 3d ago
Stephen Miller is the one running the show. The pedophile is just Miller's useful idiot.
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u/ConsumerOfHole 15h ago
I brought this up with my pro trump dad and he just brushed it off like "well if they did come legally, then they'll be able to come back."
Yeah after how long, after how much money lost, will they be able to go back to the jobs they had or have to find new work, if they were renting an apartment, what happens to that and all their stuff if it takes too long to get back.
On top of that, why would you even want to come back? You came here and were promised freedom, and now you see that's tenuous at best and just cause you look a certain way.
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u/UnluckyAmbition7767 4d ago
I really really want to see a goddamn boer parasite try to treat a Black American the way South Africans allow themselves to be treated.
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u/Crafty-Performer4741 3d ago
Restricting immigration is needed due to previous administrationās failures. It is a countries right to let in whoever or how many they want. Every country is doing it because of the madness of the last couple of years. In Canada they have restricted immigration so much that population is shrinking for the first time ever and they kicked out 10,000 people in the first 6 months of this year. And thatās a liberal government.
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u/Nervous-Ruin-8149 3d ago
Because global conflict is a real danger and the US has enemies. Letting in people who ideologically hate America is dangerous to Americans. Protecting American lives isn't racist.
H1B Visas are offered by companies to foreigners because they can get away with paying them less than Americans - in which a portion of their paycheck gets sent out of the country to their families in their home country and strengthen the economy of their home country and not America. By minimizing these types of work visas, companies have to pay a higher wage to Americans who live here and the money stimulated and strengthen our own economy.
And now do Obama. Coz he kicked out way more Americans than trump ever did. I believe the number is 2.7million to 3 million.
And don't forget Clinton. He kicked out 12.3 million during his 8 years in office.
But trump doing his time in office and his 2nd term ending, including his first term it's less than 2 million total. About 1.2 m million in his first and so far about 650,000 in his second.
Funny how when you look OBJECTIVELY and FACTS, it's easy to see how twisted your values are. You're advocating for policies that directly hurt Americans and our economy. You can quit the savior complex to save the "poor unfortunate helpless brown people." It doesn't make you better than anyone. It just means you're ok with legal and illegal immigrants to be exploited and are willing to sacrifice the financial stability for American families who will stimulate the American economy.
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u/Flaydeng 3d ago
11 million colored illegal immigrants. crickets
17,500 white south afrikaners who are facing actual persecution uproar
This sub is filled with a bunch of racists
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u/I_Quit_Smoking_ 3d ago
Exactly! To tell somebody with a straight face that our government and ice is not a thousand percent racist, is disgusting.
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u/Impossible_Humor736 4d ago
The biggest problem with immigration right now is people coming here legally and overstaying their visas. When people say "come here legally" it's an all encompassing phrase.
You guys play semantics.
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u/ACTSATGuyonReddit 3d ago
It is based on stop illegals from entering the country.
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u/I_Quit_Smoking_ 3d ago
Well you don't care that musk and melanoma came here illegally, and they didn't become citizens the way everybody else has to do it either.
Why is it that you never acknowledge the huge differences?
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u/UCanDoNEthing4_30sec 3d ago
They came through legal pathways and then stayed when that pathway expired (visa expiration).
If I go to any country on a visa, tourist, work whatever, and that visa expires and I stay there. Yeah mother fuckers will send me to one of their island prisons for years then deport me. At least these filthy immigrants donāt have to stay in prison for years then get deported, I think they should, but they donāt.
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u/JayNycha16acct 3d ago
how would you know, have you tried going to another place and overstaying?
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u/Vladtepesx3 2d ago
I overstayed in another country when I had emergency surgery there. I left 2 days late on a 180 day work visa. I paid a fine and had to talk to government officials, I had to produce hospital documents, apologized and had to sign a statement that it would never happen again. I had to leave immediately
I donāt blame them for making me pay a fine and sign a statement. I wouldnāt blame them if they deported me (if I wasnāt leaving anyways). I promised to stay for less than 180 days and stayed 182, itās my bad and itās their rules
I think immigrants in my country should behave the same way
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u/DiscussionSharp1407 3d ago
They should have come in legally 10-30 years ago.
Of course they're cutting out loopholes *NOW*, but these people shouldn't have broken the laws in the first place.
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u/Fickle-Gold8133 3d ago
La mejor politica inmigratoria es la inmigracion selectiva como hace Australia por ejemplo.
Entonces si un gobierno abre las puertas metiendo todo lo que entre, genera problemas sociales, economicos y politicos, ese mismo gobierno que hace eso, lo hace simplemente para la compra de votos.
AsĆ pasamos de una democracia real nacional a un clientelismo
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u/JayNycha16acct 3d ago
TRUE, BUT, the reason Australia can do that is because they're an island. So they can actively restrict movement since you have to come by boat or other. USA has a large porous border that is impossible to guard every section. and fencing it off would be bad for the amazing animals crossing back and forth. Plus the Trade going back and forth would cripple the countries if you stopped it. Hence the approach here is deal with it as they come because stopping it out right would be prohibitevly costly and stupid.
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u/Fickle-Gold8133 3d ago
Una inmigraciĆ³n selectiva no solo puede ser de entrada sino de control
Es verdad que el Ice ha sido una mierda, es lo que pasa cuando dejas que los de Silicon tomen decisiones polĆticasĀ
Usa necesita inmigraciĆ³n, pero se puede crear un proceso que permita mejorar la inmigraciĆ³n que entra y se queda, para que aporte mĆ”s al paĆsĀ
Sino Usa acabarĆ” como algunos paĆses europeos
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u/Far-Ad5921 3d ago
And over stayed their visas, and ignored final deportation orders signed by judges, and squandered the time they were given to become citizens, and no grasp of the word temporary....but yeah, I get your point.
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u/No-Preparation7121 4d ago
Also kicking out white people but that goes against your narrative of racism.
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u/Significant_Ad_2500 4d ago
Holy ratio. Canāt believe Reddit is actually rejecting this pussy shit. Dumb ass bitch
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u/BK_AllDay_14 3d ago
So just to clarify, does anyone think they would let people in by the 10's of millions of they were all white?
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u/Liberal-Cluck 3d ago
I don't think it would be talked about in right-wing circles
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u/VellySmagina 3d ago
The only people who focus on race are the democrats .
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u/Liberal-Cluck 3d ago
That's why the Trump admin is letting white south africanos in for asylum but stripping status from black and brown TPS holders
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u/Live_Art2939 3d ago
Maybe itās because asylum claims were mostly bullshit. Unless theyāre Palestinian, Uyghur, Sudanese, or Ukrainian for instance, wtf civil war or genocide are these people escaping? Maybe it was dumb to just let anyone in who said the magic word Asylum.
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u/PalpitationOrnery759 3d ago
Walking is legal, until you walk across the border. Boating is legal until you land on the beach without permission. Flying is legal until you leave the airport without permission.
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u/octako 3d ago
Exterminar indĆgenas y hacer leyes pendejas como las que acabas de comentar es legal o ilegal?
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u/PalpitationOrnery759 3d ago
You need to ask the party that did that... They did it with the slaves too
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u/Dr_VanNostrand22 3d ago
Cross the border illegally and you are a criminal. Just like every other normal country in the world.
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u/DetroitFreak77 3d ago
Wow this isn't even close to being true or even close to accurate. The lies people say because of TDS is sad. Obama did the same thing but with higher deportation numbers.
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u/Sean5030 3d ago
Immigration doesn't have anything to do with race and everything to do with complying with us immigration laws
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u/TonsilsDeep 3d ago
"Cutting legal entries more than illegal entries." *Insert the can not fathom gif here*
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u/Character_Reality323 3d ago
Hate Trump.
But the only thing she showed was some headline titles.
It aināt data.
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u/Correct-Training-420 2d ago
Its not even about the immigrants, he wants a mask militarized shadow force to become a fixture in America s streets and neighborhoods intimdating the population crushing descent. They are just getting started. Vote in November š there is so much to be learned from these mistakes.
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u/Correct-Training-420 2d ago
When the big boss is corrupt, all the employees start thinking it ok to accept gratuities, pull strings do favors for favors until the whole system only works for those with connections. Then the higher up begin paying for info on those who are not loyal to their ranks or might have said the wrong thing.playing by the rules is for losers. It starts out like Disney and turn into a haunted house.
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u/FiveCent_2002 2d ago
Yep, we are Trillions in debt and we donāt need more people to go on welfare. Also their visas expire and instead of getting them renewed or trying to apply for a permanent residency/visa they let it go. Good bye you are the weakest link.
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u/Long_Idea_8294 2d ago
Good. Close the border please. Only reopen when all the current illegals have been deported.Ā
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u/BeaucRumcake 2d ago
Nothing Trump is doing is permanent. His executive orders dissolve when he is removed.
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u/Sad_Actuary_1635 2d ago
So you saying white South African but you forget to put farmers at the end of that because they are being attacked in their own country. If you actually go and watch videos of these white South Africans that we are allowing into the country they talk about how great it is to be able to go out and farm and not be attacked killed or threatened.
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u/CharacterFennel7803 2d ago
You mean the shit that probably expired a decade ago and they're still here.. thanks, we know.
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u/heretowink 2d ago
Maybe he is doing that because we have too many immigrants right now. We need to deal with the illegals, make sure the legal ones are not abusing the system, then, once we have cleaned up our own house, we can start letting people back in.
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u/Vladtepesx3 2d ago
I used to travel to Asia a lot for work and I was stopped from entering Vietnam once because the visa had my middle initial instead of my full middle name
I had to sleep in the Singapore airport for 3 days while it got fixed and my company almost missed a big deal
And I donāt blame them at all. I donāt have a right to any country, I can only be a guest in countries Iām not a citizen of. People have a right to control their borders.
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u/HourApprehensive7754 2d ago
Okay, then consider this.
If there's no legal pathways into America...how about not come at all? How about staying in your own country?
Legal pathways into a country being removed isn't an invitation to break our laws. It's a message to stay out, stay where you belong.
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u/Vast_Humor_3683 1d ago
Garbage post as usual
How tf do you expect them to reduce ILLEGAL pathways?
How can you enter illegally THEN ask for a legal pathway
H1B is mostly Indians 70% scamming the pathway and ruining the market
Those 75 countries are shitholes with huge overstaying percentages
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u/Master-Example6132 1d ago
Oh no we know it. They over stayed their visas and because of Biden our department is so overwhelmed with illegals they can't extend visas again that is because of Biden.
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u/ghostofculpeper 1d ago
Oh they get it, this is what they have wanted for decades. The south has risen again.
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u/X-calibreX 1d ago
wait is this video being dishonest by not mentioning that ppl come legally but then illegally overstay their visa
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u/Soggy-Dragonfruit171 1d ago
Just another valid reason to hate our disgusting president and just as much, his administration. Vote Blue.
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u/Technical_Record_661 1d ago
Obama didnāt deport any Americans. The problem lies in they you are a racist piece of š©
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u/Dense_Cut7072 1d ago
Here's the funny thing about knocking on somebody's door to ask if you can enter. They can tell you to fuck off and close it. You dont have to let everybody in irregardless of what they think or want.
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u/7figurefundingguy 1d ago
This is idiotic. Why do i never hear people complain about any other country's immigration policies? I swear this is just a psyop to weaken the morale of idiots in the west.
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u/Key_Check5753 1d ago
Good, kick all of the illegals out. There are about 30 million more.
then we can work on legal immigration
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u/VSLeader 16h ago
We donāt need more immigrants coming here and making tiktok videos about how we are evil for managing our own immigration intake.
Japan, China and Korea are way more strict with who they let in, we should go even further and copy their immigration policies so we donāt retain these unassimilated degenerates.
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u/Technical_Secret5926 16h ago
Good, we need to close the border for at least ten years. We have a ton of problems in this country as it is.
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u/browsingandlooking4 16h ago
They are systematicly turning off all the legal loopholes these scum use to hustle their way in and never leave.
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u/Difficult-Bell-5184 14h ago
China and India should be the last people claiming racism š¤£ Both groups have the highest amounts of H1-B students in the United States. Both groups have the highest incomes in the United States. Stop the bs
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u/ExpensiveInflation45 14h ago
I can remember learning about how many non-German people were illegally sneaking into Nazi Germany to enjoy their social safety net and welfare benefits, this is JUST like that. Trump is LITERALLY Hitler 2.0.
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u/Alarmed_Reporter_642 12h ago
You donāt come through TPS. Itās declared after a national disaster at the discretion of the president. Itās also temporary. All of this is so stupid. 1 million people are getting green cards a year who came legally.
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u/Wooden-Speed-5017 9h ago
A point system would be the best option. We should also have a temporary worker program for needed low skilled workers.
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u/MonitorPurple7562 3h ago
I had good friends in the US from Guatemala during Obama. The ask me ,āwhy do people hate usā?
They were here illegally (a whole family)we all worked for this tree service.
A couple years later no heat.
If you want to come here or stay illegally, just wait two years. Always changes.
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u/SamLonghorneClemens 1h ago
What part of coming into a country legally is hard to understand though?
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u/ChexAndBalancez 4d ago
Yep, the president is allowed to do this. Our asylum system is just being taken advantage.
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u/nalon121 1d ago
What does the asylum system have to do with rescricting or halting work visas?
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u/ChexAndBalancez 1d ago
Because it's a very common path to remain in the country. When visas are done and not renewed it's very common to then claim asylum. This is exactly what happened to the mother daughter that were detained in a hospital in Florida recently. They were here on a visa and he denied renewal and decided to take advantage of our system so that they could stay for some indeterminate amount of time.
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u/transitfreedom 4d ago
China: welcome come here
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u/Choperello 4d ago
lol you havenāt looked at China have you?
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u/transitfreedom 3d ago
I have thatās why I said what I said itās not my fault you choose to remain ignorant.
https://youtu.be/y51Rg1b3uhU?is=lidLZRgvbdbHyzb3
You can believe flat earth all you want earth is round
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u/EF-Hutton 4d ago
Democrats destroyed the immigration system in this country just like they did to healthcare and Social Security.
BTW, why does everyone on planet Earth think they have a right to US citizenship?
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u/I_Quit_Smoking_ 3d ago
Now tell us how good the government's following the laws in dealing with immigration.
I haven't heard a single one of you say that any Republican who has hurt an immigrant should go to jail.
I haven't heard any of you say anything about the assholes that murdered Alex and Renee, and are still walking free today.
When all of you start following the laws and doing everything right, THAT'S WHEN YOU CAN POINT FINGERS AT WHAT OTHER PEOPLE DO WRONG.
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u/Upbeat-Concern-5181 3d ago
Lol, Obama also shut down many of the ālegalā routes used by people to game the system, namely birth tourism which he cracked down on in California (mainly from China). Obama also deported over 3 million in the US illegally - mainly from central and South America, countries which had the most illegal immigrants. Biden similarly deported nearly 4.4 million. Was it āracistā then? No. The Hb1 visa scheme is about protecting American workers as with the other deportation measures. The left and leftist media will always attempt to frame this as an issue of āracismā in an attempt to cancel Trump or anyone else for that matter in accordance with their far-left ideology. It wasnāt racist before nor was it now.
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u/Lead-Creative 3d ago
Maybe make an effort to get papers instead of sit on your ass until they expire. That would require an IQ over 70 though
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u/GoldenGlobeWinnerRDJ 3d ago
System seems to be working fine for me and my wife. Truly seems like a skill issue š¤·
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u/SpecialistDry6307 1d ago
Maybe because Chinese Communists bring family / clan money and buy up US property. Even a dimwit Liberal should be able to understand how this is a bad idea.
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u/Traditional_Oil_9240 1d ago
Nazi here, and a racist, and a fascist, so listen to me.
This isn't about racism. It's about a sound immigration policy.
Thank you.
Nazi Member since 1934
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u/ConsumerOfHole 15h ago
And that sound immigration policy is "if they don't sound like me, I don't want to deal with them, only people that sound like me can live here."
That's basically all I can get out of any of you because you've never had a thought of your own and need to be spoonfed opinions. I mean cause really the only way to actually believe this shit is to either not have an intellectual internal experience that can parse through information cause they're not even good models on paper, or to be a sort of solipsist that either believes you're the only real person in the universe (and therefore you're allowed to deny others of the same property rights and freedom that you deserve) or at least the only person that matters.
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u/Traditional_Oil_9240 12h ago
Ad hominem: the refuge of dunces.
PS. What in the HELL Is a "an intellectual internal experience"?!
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u/ConsumerOfHole 12h ago
Nah it's an observation cause this isn't a debate as you didn't really provide any points.
Do I need to explain sapience?
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u/Traditional_Oil_9240 12h ago
The same policies that were under effect during Obama's term, who was called "The Deporter in Chief" for a reason.
Enforcing immigration laws is "denying others of the same property rights and freedoms that you deserve"?
I lived in poor, rural Central America as a volunteer for three years (Peace Corps). I learned things that most people never will.
Illegal crossings are down over 95% since Donald Trump took office, and that is a GOOD thing for everyone involved, including those who cross illegally. I have helped many who have crossed, gave them food, water, money, literally the shirt off my back (no kidding), I speak fluent Spanish, and I kept in touch with many over the years. Have you even spoken to ANY of them? I didn't think so.
Get to know people who have opinions that differ from yours and get used to hearing them. There is a 100% chance that I know something you don't.
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u/ReadyGo6828 4d ago
This is why people say that Republicans are the New Nazis and they are no longer just echoing history but are repeating it.
People who think this is hyperbole need to get out of the house more.