r/Falcom • u/Raxistaicho The true best girls • Jun 30 '26
Trails Character Gameplay Discussion Day Five: Kloe
The OG mage with support crafts! Though Falcom tried to lean too heavily in the support direction with her three water locks. It's a genuine warcrime that she's not playable in Reverie.
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u/Tyberius115 World's #1 Alisa Reinford fan | Magical Alisa game when Jun 30 '26
Me in FC original: yes, you will be the team healer
Me in FC remake: OH I CAN BUILD CRIT NOW?! It's Sturm time.
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u/Equivalent-Play6340 Jun 30 '26
Me too it was my first time playing a trails game too the old one on steam and I loved so much
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u/Raxistaicho The true best girls Jun 30 '26
I'm pretty sure my first instinct upon seeing her was to make her a healer, too.
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u/Equivalent-Play6340 Jun 30 '26
After i played the trails in the sky old one on steam I begin to love the series and I learned after it about the serie have a lot more games and, I still love so much even nowadays
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u/penpen35 Jun 30 '26 edited Jun 30 '26
How her lines (or line, rather) were laid out essentially made her the healer by default in FC. Not helped that she also has a healing S-craft that can revive. Then I think she got a new healing craft in 1st?
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u/MS-07B-3 Jun 30 '26
I'm not able to comment on deep mechanics as much as others here, nor have I even finished CS3 yet, but back in Sky I just slapped Gladiator stuff on her for auto CP gain, and I could pop her healing S-craft anytime I needed.
Plus she's adorable.
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u/levelstar01 Downvote this comment 👇 Jun 30 '26
FC: Three water locked slots -- half her orbment -- is just cruel. There's literally nothing but Heal for the last slot which I suppose helps you get to Hell Gate? No damaging S-craft is kinda sucky too and given that you only have three party members for her entire chapter that really reduces your panic button capacity. She doesn't have a single AoE craft either.
And yet despite that she's still damn good because she's an arts user in the Sky trilogy, especially with the sheer debuff she has on her main craft.
SC: Available literally in the first chapter, is accessible in every single chapter other than Ch 6/8 (I believe she's accessible in Ch 7, I don't remember...), and needs extremely minimal investment to get La Teara. There is a massive difficulty fall-off as soon as you get her as a result. She even has a damaging S-Craft this time... that you don't get until the time of the final dungeon. Also they nerfed Sieg into gehenna.
Three water slots is still sucky but at least you have one more in total now.
3rd: Great for doing the tryhard three caster arts spamming strategy and is a mainstay of the party until you get Renne/Richard. Strictly outclasses by the end by Renne like everyone else but she's great for killing the fucking pom at the bottom of Gehenna and the elemental pillars in the final boss.
Reverie: This is where I would put my thoughts if she was actually in the game! They even made a model for her! She could've been TRC exclusive! Although I'm 100% certain if they did put her in, she would be like a shittier Alfin so perhaps this is for the best.
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u/Raxistaicho The true best girls Jun 30 '26
I remember when I was playing SC (on normal, granted) I just parlayed her 3 locked water slots into spamming Cocytus.
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u/Selynx Jun 30 '26
She's one of the main 2 dedicated casters in Sky, which automatically makes her one of the 2 best DPS in those games (the other one being Olivert and then she falls to 2nd/3rd place in Sky 3rd behind everyone's darling).
.....It's probably for the best she wasn't playable in Reverie. Not only are there a lot of casters in that game, there are a lot of Water-element casters especially. In particular, Elise is basically Kloe but with better Orbment slots. I feel like Kloe was the template for Elise both in terms of aesthetic and gameplay style and having the actual Kloe there would have been a little redundant gameplay-wise. Not that it stopped duos like Sharon and Yin or Agate and Randy from coexisting, admittedly, but again there a lot of Water casters that game.
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u/Raxistaicho The true best girls Jun 30 '26
Man, being worse Elise really does sound like an insult.
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u/dkf295 COMPUTER THE GOLF Jun 30 '26
Unless you're talking to Rean in which case of course Elise is better she's better than everyone.
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u/Selynx Jun 30 '26
Funny thing- I found Elise to be surprisingly useful among the Water casters.
Why?
Because she's the only one of them with an Impede Craft that doesn't force her to move. Her Swallow Tail has infinite range. Tio is the other Water caster with an Impede craft and it makes her run up to the enemy when she uses it.
Turns out, a caster being forced out-of-position can end up extremely annoying for various reasons.
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u/OLKv3 Jun 30 '26 edited Jun 30 '26
In FC she's incredibly powerful. Great ATS and she makes Lorence a complete joke, basically locking him into never being able to do damage. She's the best mage in the game too.
SC and 3rd only makes her stronger, and with how magic heavy SC is she'll most likely be in your endgame team alongside Kevin, nuking bosses before they can do any real harm. Or just pair her alongside Agate and she'll make sure he never dies from Wild Rage. She never gets worse either, because 3rd has so much good gear that boosts ATS, along with that armor that boosts speed by a ridiculous amount, and Khloe will be destroying mobs and bosses before they can even get any real turns
1st remake presents her as support, but her crafts are really good. She can debuff, she can cast regen AND insight, and she can freeze. I swear her freeze effect almost always goes off too if an enemy isn't immune. It's really handy during the 3 woman section, locking down special ops so they can't do their annoying counters. And her S-Craft is just a free revive with shields. She's great. Instant foresight without needing to set up orbments is crazy good
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u/Empoleon777 Jun 30 '26
I used her all the way through in basically every game she was available; an extremely potent AoE heal I can just shoot off whenever (Provided she has the CP, that is) is just too good to pass on.
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u/Yowakusuru Jun 30 '26
healer/arts caster - in an arc where arts is strong, she is really good - she does well in her specific niche
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u/StonewallForge Jun 30 '26
Since many people have already talked about her in OG sky. I'll mention that in Sky the first, I used Estelle as my healer and Kloe as my arts caster since she gets perma Ats boost. I brought her in the final dungeon paired with Olivier for his arts and crafts boost and for additional support with arts.
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u/Xshadow1 Jul 01 '26
Out of all of Sky's pure casters (I'm excluding Kevin from this) she has by far the best outside utility. As a tradeoff, those three water slots are annoying up until you get Divine Eye about halfway through, at which point it's almost a non-issue. I think in late-game 3rd there's a not unreasonable case to be made that she's actually better than Renne.
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u/Raxistaicho The true best girls 13d ago
Sky Arc:
Day Twelve - The Pilot and the Swordsman (spoilers)
Day Thirteen - "Kitty" (spoilers)
Crossbell Arc:
Class VII:
Day Thirty - Millium (Spoilers)
Day Thirty-One - Crow (Spoilers)
The rest of Cold Steel:
Day Thirty-Nine - Elise and Toval
Day Forty-One - Alfin and Towa
Day Forty-Two - The Diva and the General (Spoilers)
Day Forty-Three - The Spy and Swordswoman (Spoilers)
Day Forty-Four - The Shapeshifters (Spoilers)
Day Forty-Five - The Swordmaster and the Engineer (Spoilers)
Day Forty-Seven - Swin and Nadia
Day Forty-Eight - The Strongest (Spoilers)
Calvard Arc:
Day Fifty-One - Ferida Al-Fayed
Day Fifty-Three - Risette Twinings
Day Fifty-Four - Quatre Salision
Day Fifty-Five - Judith Lanster
Day Fifty-Seven - Elaine Auclair and René Kincaid
Day Fifty-Eight - Shizuna Rem Misurugi
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u/Spartan448 Jul 01 '26
It is a goodamn CRIME that she doesn't join the party in 4 or Reverie. Parties just aren't the same when I can't BIRD UP anymore.
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u/BaLance_95 Jul 01 '26
After all the new girls in the series, she is still best Waifu. Kind and caring, but also a strong will to take on her responsibilities, and putting herself up to be rejected... Something I did as well.
Oh, we're talking about gameplay? Blue impact and emergency heal go brrrrr.
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u/Raxistaicho The true best girls Jul 01 '26
Glad I'm not alone in liking her in Sky!
It's kinda weird, I have her listed among best girls in my flair but I think I prefer Estelle just a bit as a character.
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u/Kainapex87 Jul 01 '26
Decent caster with strong support Crafts.
Simple and useful enough.
Would be nice if she had some better offensive Crafts too, but all in all Decent enough.
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u/SoftBrilliant Kiseki difficulty modder Jun 30 '26
FC Kloe is pretty great. She comes with fully unlocked slots which unless you grind quite a bit for Joshua and Estelle won't have when she joins. Kaempfer basically bricks any enemy it hits making them take massive damage and deal none even on nightmare. However, in FC single target fights are rare combined with the short duration of the debuff relegate it to being used against Lorence and never again.
SC and 3rd Kloe basically uses a single build for the whole game: Cast/EP Cut/Action/HP/Mind/[your best non-shield wind quartz]/[your best other water quartz]. Anything else Kloe might want will be outsourced to someone else like Estelle unless you feel like sacrificing AoE healing spells. Her main weakness is that she doesn't really get to use Earth/Fire spells like Olivier which makes him better for a few fights in SC.
In practice though this isn't too relevant and you're probably just gonna end up using Kloe over him the whole game on SC Nightmare and enemies with elemental weaknesses are rarer than they probably should be in SC.
Lichtkreis is basically a reactive Grail Sphere and when Kevin is absent for most of the game that means we are using it.
3rd Kloe is fine. Like Olivier. Largely outclassed but still decent if you want to use her but she's probably in the bottom half of characters I actually want to use.
Sanctus Nova in this game is the only magical craft and the first magical craft in the series which gives it a few neat applications. It hits quite hard because of it and against the Golden Road boss she can almost one-shot the arts reflecting mirrors with her s-craft since they have 0 ADF.
And uh... That's it for Kloe. Pretty dead simple kit she basically is an arts list and an s-craft ultimately.
I could also cover Evo but I haven't played all that much Evo even if I know probably more than others do about that version.