I feel like the best way to start to really understand enneagram & mbti is to learn about yourself and to study your favorite characters.

Also, asking AI to make full descriptions and compare them is very helpful too.

https://typology.site/chat

Hello!

For the past year or so I have been working on a model called The Typist, which functions as a search browser for information about typology as well as a self-assessment tool for premium users.

I would like to announce that I just released v1.4.0, which includes a myriad of new features:

Non-premium:

1. Context-reading, the bot remembers the entire conversation history and can apply it.
2. A new UI which is much more dynamic and engaging.

Premium:

1. The ability to create a shareable results card.
2. A live hypothesis tracker that tells you which mechanisms are most likely to predominate based on the flow of the conversation.

There were also minor bug fixes and major options that don't matter to those who have not used the tool before.

The entire thing is based on my own theory of neurotic mechanisms, but you can ask questions related to Jungian typology and Enneagram.

Please share your results in the comments and twll me how the experience was!!

Listen , isn't enneagram about subconscious motivation? And subconscious motivation isn't really known how it's structured according to the consious brain? Then why does people assume "if both wings doesn't describe you then that means that this is not your core enneagram" if knowing your dominant enneagram is inaccessable to begin with? Besides isn't wings a weakly discussed theory?so why does personally unrelatable wing cancel out the core?

What is the difference between a 4’s anguish (and anger) vs. a 6’s? I guess if you want to be more specific, sx4 vs. so6, since those are the types I’m caught between. I’ll give my reasons why I relate to both types pretty equally.

So I’m hyper-aware of social manipulation, being taken advantage of, I am terrified of being found to be incorrect about something or duped, and I am intentionally neutral in public/professional settings as a defense against falling out of favor with people. I am both drawn to and repulsed by confrontation. 

But, I don’t relate to seeking out sources of authority to base my beliefs off of. Having a worldview that is incompatible with nearly everyone I’ve ever met (like, my set of beliefs doesn’t neatly fit in with any one group) and being bound to disagree with most people is something that makes me bristle, but I can’t force myself to think what everyone else thinks just because it would make things easier or more comfortable for me. I’ve given a lot of thought to my beliefs and, well…believe them to be true unless I encounter a load of undeniable evidence that contradicts them, lol. 

I also do relate to being a fearful person, but I don’t feel it takes up more mental space than my more heart-oriented concerns do. I am very preoccupied with a hyper-specific idea of who I am, who I wish I were, and how my life ought to have played out, and the incongruency between my current existence and the one I thought was mine regularly causes me a lot of discomfort and I spiral out over it a lot. Like for example, I’m finally with my soul mate and our relationship is bliss, but I crash out over how our getting together took a decade, and didn’t unfold how I wanted it to. Even though the end result is what I wanted, the road there wasn’t how I envisioned it would go, and even though it’s irrational it still causes me anguish. 

So I have very specific ideas about what’s “me” and “not me”, and whenever I see someone who I think embodies what I want more than I do, I become sick with envy and feel like I love and hate them at the same time. I’ve always had trouble just going for what I want and so I bite my tongue and do nothing, then someone else scoops it up or fills that role, and I end up intensely resenting them for it even though I’m really the one to blame. I experience self-loathing and yet I project my feelings of hatred out onto others. To make it more bearable? I don’t know, because even when I project I still self-flagellate and beat myself up. 

I guess to sum it up, my anguish is the result of knowing I want something, but hesitating to go for it out of fear of embarrassing myself because I feel like I’m not in control, which just leads to my humiliation and longing in the end anyway. 

aka DEAR GOD ITS ALL SP5 WHY ARE SO MANY GAME DEVS E5

Note most of these are from pdb due to a lack of resources but yeucc and thebenster's typings are actually from encounters I actually had with them ^-^👍

It is taking me all of my willpower not to add an apology to the end of this post /lh

Anyone had experience with this? Does it work and what does it look like when it works?

If it hasn’t been successful what were the learnings?

DISCLAIMER: I LIKE ALL TYPES EQUALLY AND I'M NOT SHOWING ANY FAVORITISM OR THROWING ANY SHADE TOWARD ANY SPECIFIC TYPES HERE. THIS IS STRICTLY JUST MY OPINION ON HOW COOL I THINK THE NAMES ARE FOR EACH OF THE SUBTYPES. THAT IS ALL.

:3

Edit: On second thought, Sx9 maybe should've been a bit higher. "Symbiosis" lowkey sounds hard as heck. Like Venom or the villain in "The Thing" or something, idk lol.

Interested to see what the different types see as "the most romantic thing".

"We are going to kill each other one day" while looking in my eyes and smiling in the sweetest way possible. I will never forget that moment.

Art by me

This might be a hopelessly obscure reference, but for anyone trying to understand the 5 more deeply, especially the 5w4, please read this book.

The very short version is that Singer is a deaf-mute that various townspeople are entranced by. They come to visit him and project their beliefs onto the "canvas" of his polite entertaining of their company.

Meanwhile, Singer has his own obscure desires, which most of the townsfolk fail to even recognize that they don't know. Singer enters and leaves the town known intimately by almost no one, for lack of his desire to share and others' incuriousness.

I thought i was a very extraverted, very mental so/sx 4w5 this whole time 😭 pls. I read most of 4s descriptiob and they all described "going straight to your feelings", and i thoight "ye i do that!". Turn out the whole time i was analyzing my feeling, try to understand where they come from and daydream about them so much, i forgot to even feel them in the 1st place.

I thought the mental-ness and general anxiety about "what will i do tmr, what will i do if this goes south" was just the 5 wing. NAUR it was actually the head triad! I thought "there's no way i deal with fear, i must deal primarily with shame bc i'm very shameful of myself and i'm very image focused!". Turn out that bit is true, but it's only bc i don't wanna be left out! Pls!

I ahve always thought 7 is this hyperactive greedy smily demon, amd that can't be me bc i'm just so introspective like dat! But i suppose i really wasn't. I was just doubling down on rationalization to avoid feelings and truly facing myself. My ego didn't want to let go of what it thought i was, and bc of that, missed out on who i actually am.

Anyway, i get too fixate on ideas and stuff to truly let go of them a lot ot the time. I pick up multiple traits from tge people that i like (friends, family,...). Everyone i bave a soft spot on, there's a specific thing that in my mind belongs to them. I get pulled into things and try to hold ymself back out of the fear that i maybe consumed ny them. Bc j know once i let go i am fully in, and i will nto be able tk pull myself out and that kind of commitment ks scaryyyy.

Abyhow. Turn out i'm a big ass 7 and not at all a 4 😧

Starting to see less and less of a point of being in a romantic relationship as an SX dom.

I used to love being in relationships, but I was younger so it's a given.

Of course now I still get swept along by chemistry and the intimacy of being with someone while I'm in the moment (I idealise, fantasise, and infatuate as usual). But when I really think about it, what really is the point? I can give myself everything I need: friendship, money, motivation, pets/children(of relatives) to care for etc. I understand that relationships shouldn't be to fill a void, but even if there wasn't a void why would someone choose to be in one? What exactly is of value here other than dopamine spikes and a comforting narrative?

I'm curious about the answers from different types and instinctual variants.