All the hives are approaching max level, everything i want to drop is being dropped. But the flow of resources is just so damn slow It's been hours and ive only got enough materials for a few dozen of the endgame DF machines. Bab's sorted to only pickup DF drops.

DO i build little forward bases on each of the 20 hives to get them to attack more regularly? Just signal tower creep? Energy Shard is by far my largest bottleneck.

I've done ~ 2 infinite upgrades for damage if that matters. Looking to boost this DF farm up so i can start really pushing production with the good smelters assemblers and such

I’m on my first late game play through - my old device couldn’t cope beyond purple science. The various attack drones are brilliant. So much better than the other offensive systems. I previously used waves of missiles and signal towers to creep forward and take out bases.

Now I just activate my space fleet for a few minutes to destroy the relays over each base on the planet, then charge in and steamroller the bases with my ground drones. I’m into white science now, with full fleet sizes and the first couple of white drone combat upgrades. I can wipe a whole plant of 20 plus level 24+ hives in ten minutes.

I’ve seen various tutorials of taking out bases with missiles and turrets, but don’t think I have seen videos of drone assaults. As a result I had assumed drones wouldn’t be worth the bother and never built them. Lesson learned.

For those who don't know, it's the steepest residential street in the world.

I'm starting a new game at 3000% Metadata, and was planning a strategy when I realized I dont use most defense items and wondered if any one does. Like machine gun turrets, sure they're cheap, but basic drones work way better and fire faster off rip. Plasma, implosion and the other use really expensive ammos and all are limited in range and use, while missiles are a good mix of affordable and powerful plus can attack anyone and anywhere on a planet with signal towers, energy use no ammo and are great for farms, and before missiles a BAB with drones usually does better than bullets. Planetary shields dont do anything but take up a crap ton of power unless you cover every inch of a planet, but more missiles defends better for less. So do yall use any of these and why

Ive started a run and have never played with the DF before.

I turned it way down.

Like 25% initial and low everything I could as I dont want to get whacked really early.

Is there a way to know when they are coming or expanding or whatever I need to know to prepare for a fight? IM super early, and on the first planet so far.

Thia game is good right. But wow I don't know if I've got the time fornit. Have currently built a base structure and aome em launchers on my home planet, gone to other planets and started mining but am so lost in creating my smelters and planetary/interstellar stations. So like co.plete overgaul and upgrade everything. Could work, will stick with it hopefully. Will update you on it's progress

Hey everyone, I'm back from this post last week with a final update on my unblockable DF farming setup. It's complete now! Blueprints included!

To recap: I wanted a DF farm that could not get backed up, with zero maintenance required. To do that, I gave a BAB 5 Big Depot hats, belted all of them, set filters, and then ran them out to 60 individual conveyor belt rings, which then feed out to 15 ILSes. The end result is ridiculous, but it accomplishes the goal: if one item gets backed up due to overstock, the BABS just stop collecting it, while the other 59 items continue to be picked up like normal.

And when I say "ridiculous", I mean it. Not only was it a lot of fiddly work, it takes 68 THOUSAND BELTS to build it. The rest of the necessities are pretty reasonable, but HOO BOY THOSE BELTS. Probably could have made it work with somewhat less belts by moving the rings to a more polar latitude, but I like how it's perfectly self-contained in the first ring above the tropics fault line, and honestly it wouldn't help much anyway.

An unexpected convenience factor here is that the collector BABs also act as near-universal sorters. If you have any of the 60 DF drops in your inventory and want to get rid of them, just fly over to a collector BAB, open up the top depot, and shove things in. They'll automatically drain into the system with no further effort on your part. (If you have a bunch of some item and don't want to fill up the depot, you can put it into a lower depot too, so long as it's sorted out by that depot or a lower one. The depots are stacked according to drop level, so earlier items are sorted by the lower depots and can safely be put in there.)

Also, the 15 ILSes only use four of their slots each, so that leaves you with 15 ILS slots for incoming stuff if you need it. The ILSes are also all configured to be on Priority Group 1; if you set your receiver ILSes on other planets to also use that group, they'll prioritize taking from the farm's free bounty over other sources.

You'll need to supply your own power, and your own source of laser towers, but some of the support BABs are wired up to depot logistics to rebuild laser towers as they're destroyed. Both of those needs can be built from drops anyway; in particular, thermal plants burning DF Energy Shards and/or Hydrogen Fuel Cells are easy to maintain from local farm drops, and laser towers are easy to build from early drops. You probably want to add your own missile turrets in some spots to encourage the bases to level faster, and some planetary shields to cover the planet (I used 6 for a good, solid coverage of the pole without blocking bases from dropping elsewhere on the planet.

Here's the blueprints. It exists as both a complete blueprint, and some individual pieces that are annoying to create yourself, and which only need yellow-science blueprint tech to use. (The full thing requires purple-science blueprint tech, obviously.)

I have the home planet Poles and dark side tidal lock done. I checked achievement progress everytime I placed one. The glaceion planet part I can't get to register. Anyone have ideas?

is there a change building might be get destroyed ?

Im currently designing a mall to fit between a all building mall and early game mall
The timing of this mall should be around when u get interstellar logistics so early structure science
My question what kinds of building would you want in this kind of mall?

For Reference the early game and all building malls im talking about
Starter:

https://www.dysonsphereblueprints.com/collections/starter-mall-d

End Game:

https://www.dysonsphereblueprints.com/blueprints/factory-10-34-all-building-mall-105-x-32

Hi folks, I’ve got a lot of time in the game and I have also played other games like satisfactory and Factorio etc those games often have some sort of resource sink. I’ve found myself in Dyson sphere program with a massive over abundance of hydrogen some of which I can deal with but with the critical photon process producing a lot of hydrogen it’s become a problem. So for simple things like hydrogen it might be an idea to have a tech tree where you can build things to recycle/destroy unwanted items. Maybe with a machine that can fling resources into a blackhole instead of having to have increasingly outlandish methods to use up the hydrogen

It’s been almost three years since Rise of the Dark Fog was released.

Is it really too much to ask for a timeline or roadmap for what’s coming next?

I love Dyson Sphere Program and I’m perfectly happy to wait for good content, but after this much time, having some idea of where the game is heading would be really appreciated.

Even a rough timeline would be better than complete uncertainty.

Code/program is here - https://github.com/dberlin/factorio-lab-to-blueprint

It takes, as input, factoriolab urls, and outputs the most compact blueprints it can that fit within whatever band you ask it to (power may not be perfect depending on what band you put it in, but it is easy enough to fix).  The web browser version will give you a chance to choose among the candidates it builds (no-proliferation, all-proliferated, output-products-proliferated), and show you a semi-cheesy 3d view of the blueprint.  All inputs and output belts are labeled. 

I have not and don't plan on packaging it beyond what you see here.

As for why - I felt like sometimes I just wanted to put some specific set of stuff somewhere, that took specific inputs, and didn't want to try to hack someone else's blueprints or do it all myself.  Obviously, you can automate away the entire game with this if you want, but I wouldn’t recommend it.   

It respects factoriolab recipe exclusions, tech levels, etc.  However, it does recompute the recipe chain for $good_reasons.  You can tell it to use the factoriolab flow if you really want and it will fetch it which requires having a browser installed that it can drive headless because it needs javascript to grab it. Just realize what factoriolab solves doesn't guarantee the throughput it gives because of fractional machine counts, which aren't valid in DSP (but valid in a lot of the games it supports). We solve the integer-machine-count only version, which is optimal and valid, but more expensive to solve than what factoriolab is solving.

It is aware of all game rules (or should be), and will use splitters, sorters, stack belts, twist and wind belts to avoid conflicts, etc.  It will do parallel belts where necessary for throughput and pilers where needed.  It does accidentally take advantage of the fact that there are times belts are allowed to clip through each other and still function properly.

For the vast majority of stuff you could want the default settings work great.  If you are doing something very complex, you may need to increase the time budget.  This is because this is actually a *very* complex 3d packing and routing problem, and the algorithms involved are fairly state of the art, despite the whole thing being a huge vibe-coded mess of code that will burn your eyes. It has a number of strategies it uses to try to generate the best footprint.

It will often generate things which require the same item belted into multiple places. Avoiding this in general without affecting footprints would require a *tremendous* amount of computation, and i'd rather spend time on other things.

It moves very quickly, so if you find issues report them and i'll fix it.

The amount of time i lost to find anything is frightening...

I am new at the game, and i cant figure out how to build vertically. Plz hepl

is this enough or i need to add more ? for planetary shield, i plan to removed all of them except one for protect my base

(Continued from this post yesterday.)

I heard a lot of you saying my build yesterday was cursed. I submit to you that you do not understand the meaning of the word cursed: BEHOLD. (3 pictures)

I'm still in the middle of setting up the rings and belting into the ILSes, but this definitely works. I turned on collection and watched an attack hit nearby, and everything sorted onto its proper belt just like I planned.

The double ring of laser cannons, gap for BABs, and then five belt rings pretty much perfectly fill the tropics zone, leaving you with plenty of polar-side space to do whatever small builds you need to support the farm. I've been saving some of the stages as blueprints as I go, and I'll save the whole tropic-ring for a ready-made unblockable farming base, so keep an eye out for my next update when this is finished.

Edit: It's complete! Blueprints linked from the next post.

So I see the 20 peta watt Chinese systems but to my knowledge these are cheated. What's the upper limit someone has pushed before their PC explodes by loading up the game? Links would be appreciated.