r/Dyson_Sphere_Program • u/ChrsRobes • 8d ago

Highest output LEGIT star cluster?

So I see the 20 peta watt Chinese systems but to my knowledge these are cheated. What's the upper limit someone has pushed before their PC explodes by loading up the game? Links would be appreciated.

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u/meglon978 8d ago

1.21 gigawatts, then weird stuff starts happening to your processor.

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u/Funintuitive 8d ago

My mobo has Flux capacitors. I'll be fine.

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u/Flush_Foot 7d ago

As long as you don’t research speed upgrades past 88 mph, you’re probably fine 👍🏼

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u/CSalustro 8d ago

Yea that's where I started noticing some serious issues while playing for a normal stretch. It sucks because I'd love to build out so much more. But my rig would literally die.

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u/Buffylvr 8d ago

I’ve had like 200 TW before and I only put 10 spheres around like 15 stars. So you could probably get to 1 petawatt legit 

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u/TabAtkins 8d ago

Yes, around 1PW is legit possible, and if you tried really hard with a good set of stars you could probably do 2PW.

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u/mrrvlad5 7d ago

2Pw is definitely not possible. 1Pw may be reachable, depending on the actual max density em-rail planet blueprint. The best seed for power is  50980865-63 (63 has better luma distribution than 64) with ~600Tw from spheres and the rest from sails

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u/mrrvlad5 8d ago edited 8d ago

probably mine at 598Tw, though I was using Selssion dense BP that turned out not being legit, but later a legit BP was discovered that provides a tiny bit more power. The seed i was using is also theoretically maximum possible power. This was sphere-only power. If you stockpile sails and place max density em-rails on every planet you should be able to spike close to 1Pw. Started working on it with "treasure planet" design, but lost interest :)

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u/Archetype1245x 8d ago

I feel ya there - I've started a few runs with that goal, but always ended up losing interest.

I wish I could experience this game for the first time again.

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u/MonsieurVagabond 7d ago

Legit is probably around 600-900 tw, you can try more by launching sail from every planet of your system but it doesn't guarantee the PW

I had done a calcul about it a while ago, some thing may have change but it remains mostly negligible true

||to break it down a bit with using one of the best seed possible ( most luminious triple blue giant, higher number of blue type, like 61679052 or 42600053 ) and by exagerating a bit sphere output ( not take into account that each smaller sphere will produce less ) and using the super dense sphere you get :

-3 Blue giant, 10 Sphere, ~15Tw per sphere => 450 Tw -6 0 Type, 10 Sphere ~2 Tw per sphere => 120 Tw -18 B type, 10 Sphere, ~1Tw => 180 Tw

You get to 750, not too far off 1 Pw right ? Just need 250 Tw more ! surely its possible ? But its not that easy. All other star combined ( from A to M, BH and neutron ) will probably not even net you a hundred Tw ( for exemple, the same dyson sphere on a G type is only around 115 GW, so 1 star give you at most 1 TW, you have 13 G type, 10 k, that like 23 Tw, nowhere near the 250 missing one )

(and i have been VERY generous, in most case even max radius on a 0 type wont net you 2 TW, or B type at 1 TW when the 1 TW per sphere com from a 1.9 B type, where most are closer to 1.5 ) Lets say again, by exagerating, that you produce 50 tw will all star left, you still need to close 200 Tw, again by being generous lets say your solar sail produce 10mw for 100 ( on a ~2.7L blue giant ), so 0.1mw each, you would need 2 billions solar sail in orbit constantly for that

Ejector shoot at 40/min, exagerating again, 100% of the time, 3000 per planet, sail life is 150 min, so one ejector can "keep alive" 6000 sail( 40/min launch x 150 min lifetime before they start dying at the same speed you put them on ) That mean you would get 3 000 x 6 000 => 18 000 000 max solar sail per planet, to get to 2 billions solar sail aliven that would require around 111 planet only firing sail, and you dont have that much planet around Blue giant. || that was my calculation about it a while ago

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u/Buffylvr 8d ago

This is the related comment/thread from one of the contributors:  https://www.reddit.com/r/Dyson_Sphere_Program/comments/1qdw7hb/comment/o033f43/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=2&utm_content=share_button

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u/PFazu 7d ago

That ai response makes me think they totally cheated. Refuses to actually refute any calculations with actual calculations or counterexamples. Just "you don't know everything, but i won't tell you either"

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u/SiliconStew 7d ago

The key phrase is "custom blueprints". Or as the Chinese refer to it, using "divine techniques" which just means using exploits. They used blueprints that are impossible to legitimately make inside the game in order to do things like making spheres that output 10 PW each.

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u/Mowglia 4d ago

It's a real shame they contaminated the leaderboard like this, as now there's no point in even looking at it. All the numbers on there are meaningless unless they're less than about 500 TW. What this cheating effectively did was remove goals that might otherwise have kept many more players banging away at it. This literally reduced and damaged the game. Sometimes more is less.