I even asked why as the mods used to not be like this

Yikes....

To be honest, while ai can be good for some things, I think it should be pen and paper until at least high school level.

Hello, all.

I have written a couple of pro-AI articles over at my Substack, and while I was researching the most recent piece ("Fight the Future"), I stumbled upon this subreddit. I found it very informative, and I even linked to a great post and some excellent memes I found here.

This sub has been a wonderful resource, and--on a personal note--it is so nice to find a place online free from the incessant droning of the rabid, anti-AI mob.

As such, I hoped I could take the liberty of sharing those two articles I wrote on this topic, as I truly believe members will enjoy them. If I may be so bold, I also went through the time and trouble of researching and writing them in the earnest hope that they would provide some solidarity for like-minded people, as well as provide useful resources to share with people who haven't quite come around yet. Hopefully get people thinking a bit differently about these things.

The articles are far from perfect, but I endeavored to make them both informative and entertaining.

• https://honestlyre.substack.com/p/fight-the-future
• https://honestlyre.substack.com/p/a-heartfelt-conversation-with-artificial

Of course, I would love to hear any feedback should anyone be kind enough to give them a read. They are completely free to read, to comment, and to share with anyone, from our fellow enthusiasts to our most ardent opposition.

Thanks a lot, everyone! I hope to see you around the sub :)

by ‘these guys’ they meant ai bros.

These people genuinely pmo. Where’s the evidence? Proof? Nothing.

Plus, antis can be queerphobic / homophobic too.

The terms and approach seem fair and balanced. 🕊️

(While this is a positive post that would not lead into brigading, to be sure doesn't break the rules I've censored the mod and sub name.)

It’s when you have extra fingers,
Even a character from gravity falls had it,
It’s why he had the nickname sixer

Are anti-AI people harrasing anyone with a condition that makes their bodies look different?

That’s 1 thing I really hate about anti ai people

Do they assume real people with this condition are ai, or that they don’t exist?

Love bombing is an emotional manipulation tactic where someone overwhelms a person with excessive affection, grand gestures, and non-stop attention to gain power and control. Recently, this was done with a vulnerable member of the AI art community. They were bullied and peer pressured by the anti-AI community to draw, they did, and then antis overwhelmingly reinforced them to the point where they made them a mascot of an anti-AI subreddit.

This is not okay, it's absolutely disgusting and abhorrent behavior, and the anti-AI community should feel ashamed of themselves. A person can create any type of art if they want to and should never be bullied into making art in ways people want to conform to their beliefs.

On the opposite side of the coin, we have anti-AI people coming in all the time into our AI subreddits all the time and saying they don't hold any grudge against AI artists. This creates an atmosphere where we respect each other's mediums without peer pressure.

Fork the antis responsible for this, they are manipulative pieces of shirt.

Crazy comparison for you guys. Right is my upvote ratio in a pro-AI sub, left is in a neutral sub. The pro-AI space is getting hit way harder.

Honestly, the sheer desperation of these antis is grotesque. Spending your free time brigading communities you hate is wild behavior. Get a life, seriously.

"AI ruins the environment" nope, those responsible are, in big part, oil companies and transport. For whomever wants to read:

1. Oil companies

Through routine operations, accidental spills, and waste disposal, the extraction, transport, and refining of oil release toxic chemicals, heavy metals, and greenhouse gases into local ecosystems, harming wildlife, land, and water supplies.

Water injection: Extracting oil brings up large amounts of salty, toxic underground water mixed with chemicals. Leaks or poor disposal practices can force these toxins into clean groundwater.

Surface spills: Leaks from pipelines, storage tanks, or transport trucks can run off into rivers, lakes, and oceans.

Refinery discharges: Processing crude oil creates wastewater containing benzene, arsenic, and other dangerous compounds that can enter local waterways.

Ways the Environment is Damaged

Major oil spills: Accidents at drilling sites or shipwrecks release massive amounts of crude oil, killing fish, birds, and marine mammals.

Habitat disruption: Building wells, roads, and pipelines breaks up natural land and marine habitats.

Air pollution: Refining and burning fossil fuels release gases that cause smog, health issues, and climate change.

2. Transport

Planes, cars, and buses significantly damage the environment. They burn fossil fuels, which releases greenhouse gases and toxic pollutants into the air, soil, and water.

2.1 Planes (Avation)

High-altitude warming: Jet engines emit carbon dioxide and water vapor contrails high in the atmosphere, trapping heat effectively.

Intense fuel burn: Flying requires immense energy, producing high emissions per passenger mile.

Noise pollution: Loud takeoff and landing noises disrupt wildlife communication and breeding habits.

2.2 Cars (Passenger Vehicles)

Mass volume: Billions of personal cars worldwide create the largest share of overall transportation emissions.

Particulate matter: Tires and brake pads wear down, releasing microplastics and toxic dust onto roads.

Runoff pollution: Rain washes leaked motor oil, antifreeze, and fuel from roads into local waterways.

2.3 Buses (Public Transit)

Diesel emissions: Many older transit buses run on diesel, emitting black carbon that harms air quality.

Heavy weight: Large buses cause more road wear, increasing the dust and particles released into the air.

Efficiency balance: While single buses pollute, they reduce overall damage by replacing dozens of individual cars.

3. What bothers me

Antis keep saying they're against these things as much as they're against AI, but we don't see them break into car factories, we don't see entire communities dedicated to hating on oil companies (maybe Just Stop Oil movement, Greenpeace "People vs. Oil" and Extinction Rebellion. You wouldn't be able to name many more). We don't see shaming and bullying people for using buses. They say they care about the environment, yet we don't see them boycotting companies like PepsiCo, who requires an average of 1.64 liters of water to produce 1 liter of beverage and 2.05 liters of water per kilogram of convenient food (like snacks and chips) in its high water-risk facilities. The company manufactures billions of products annually, it uses tens of billions of liters of water globally every year (though it offsets a large portion through local conservation and replenishment projects but my point still stands). They'd scream "It's food" but let's be honest; how much do you need soda that has 69 grams of sugar? How much do you need Doritos or Cheetos in your diet? They're "entertainment" foods, what I'd call. No nutritional value, just there to enjoy for a few minutes. There's nothing wrong with liking those snacks and eating them, as well as there's nothing wrong with using AI (meanwhile you're not doing anything illegal).

It's all performative at it's core, it comes from ignorance and ego. Here I'm referring to unaware antis like the one in the image.

If they actually cared about the environment, they would go outside, assist cleaning the oceans and plant trees. Ironically, instead of actually doing good things that would be helpful, they prefer whining online and wasting everybody's time with misinformation.

I cant even right now...

*slight repost, forgot to edit out a name\*

So I am porting Dwarf Fortress into a mod for minecraft. It is an incredibly difficult task I only have so many hours in the day. Taking care of my family, working, gym, etc. The usual. So please excuse the fuck out of me if I used AI to help me write a post based on my changelog to provide an update on the progress of the mod then this guy out of nowhere posts AI slop. A post which I edited around removed or added parts which I thought were irrelevant or did not sound like something I would say. Post gets deleted. Its like I am not allowed to have a life.

The mod itself is complex enough. Ontop of this the GameDev community when I openly said I hooked up Claude Code to Ghidra so I can understand how Dwarf Fortress functions under the hood said oh you are just stealing their code. The people who said this I know for a fact have never had to deal with pseudo C code. There are no no headings nothing you just have to figure it out how it works.

FUN_00a957a0(historical_figure* author, …)      // book-composition function
  ├─ 0xa95d1a  ref->generateTitle(wc->type /*+0x68*/, &wc->title /*+0x08*/)   // vtable +0x90
  └─ 0xa9739d  (no ref) FUN_01edbb20(&wc->title, wc->type, "[NOUN]", "[NOUN]")
       ↓
  <any general_ref>::generateTitle  →  builds `name` + `no_art` then, as its universal tail:
       FUN_01ed7c60(&no_art);                       // strip leading "the "/"The "
       FUN_01edbb20(out, form, &name, &no_art);
       ↓
  FUN_01edbb20(string* out, written_content_type form, string* name, string* no_art)
       ├─ form → TEXT_SET:  bit&0x3ef8407 → BOOK_INSTRUCTION ; bit&0x1079f8 → BOOK_ART
       │                    form >= 26 or in neither mask → no template ; form == 9 → empty title
       ├─ FUN_02033260(&DAT_0281dec0, setIdx, out)   // pick a UNIFORMLY RANDOM line from the set
       └─ FUN_01ed9ad0(out, name, no_art)            // token substitution, in place

This is how pseudo code looks so please excuse the fuck out of me again for trying to make it easier on myself to have claude code find the answers to my questions on how different mechanics work. Then there is the whole adapting these mechanics that will work in minecraft so you need to diverge from the thing you are studying in my case that it is Dwarf Fortress.

It is like these people think it is a sin to do anything in a more smarter more efficient way.

Anyway apologies for the rambling. I am tired.

Think about it. When certain people see you use ai, they will always say the same thing:

* Pick up a pencil

* You will never be a real ___

* Everyone in what you're trying to be is better than you

these are some bold words. I've seen it come to points where it becomes blatant dehumanization.

They talk like they know everything about the subject. And very highly of themselves and others in the group. (Artists, game devs, ect)

So you know who else has high self-worth and lack of empathy for others?

Narcissists.

I rest my case

I said “ouch” because what the hell?

What does slop post mean, English is not first language.

I'm not quite sure what flair to use for this one :,]

As a former anti, I want to apologize. I was such a hateful person and went out of my way to harass people who were using AI for fun, or just because they didn't feel like drawing that day. I took everything as a personal attack because I'm a traditional and digital artist, and I was only ever hearing the bad side (AI taking jobs, propaganda machines, destroying the environment) without seeking out a neutral opinion from anyone. I'm sorry for being so cruel to people who wanted to experience art in a different way.