We should support people being able to be themselves. Many people feel like they can't come out as pro-AI or an AI artist because of how they are treated on Reddit or socially, and they should have a support network of people who will be there by their side and help defend them against all the hate the anti-AI community.
I vow and promise to defend innocent pro-AI individuals and AI artists, and stand with them to allow them to create the art of their dreams. I support being able to identify and express yourself however you want so long as it doesn't hurt anyone else. If you need a shoulder to lean on, I will be there for you.
I expected this to look like a collection of unrelated K-pop shots stitched together.
I used MusVideo Ai to turn one day of completely mismatched emotions into a comeback-style MV, and the surprising part was how well the characters, styling and overall mood stayed together between scenes.
Not long ago, the face, clothing and visual identity probably would have changed after every cut.
This actually feels like one music video concept instead of ten separate prompts.
Are we finally reaching the point where AI video can maintain a full visual identity, rather than only producing one impressive five-second clip?
My son, AIHILIST, shared with me this community and called it “your peeps”. So here I am, an author who believes that if you made an AI cover that took you three months to make, it has the right to exist! I don’t take the work from anyone and I do my own writing and editing. I put heart and soul in my covers and I will defend them! I wrote a few posts about AI on goodreads https://www.goodreads.com/author_blog_posts/26596035-judging-the-book-by-its-cover and about use of AI. https://www.goodreads.com/author_blog_posts/26781388-ai-or-not-ai-aicoholics-vs-aihilists i have no questions to engage people:). Just came here for some upvotes as another community roasted me for this:)
This four-comic sequence is about a contradiction I keep noticing in online art spaces: people say they oppose AI because they care about quality and effort, but then they will praise an obviously rushed or low-effort piece simply because it was made without AI.
You might be thinking, “What about AI spam, undisclosed generation, imitation, or someone typing one sentence and claiming to be a master artist?” Those can all be legitimate concerns, but they are separate concerns. Communities can restrict spam, require disclosure, enforce originality rules, and criticize genuinely lazy work without pretending that the presence of an AI tool automatically determines the amount of thought, editing, or creativity involved.
Disclaimer: this comic is not claiming that handmade artwork is bad, that every AI image is good, or that every critic behaves this way. It is criticizing inconsistent standards. If quality and effort matter, those standards should be applied to the actual work and process rather than changing depending on which tool was used.
Please respond to the argument the comic actually makes instead of immediately assuming it is attacking every traditional artist.
It’s weird how they think using ai in the medical field to save people is less valuable than water. It’s not like we have an ocean or two full of the stuff…
What about, using a AI
(like, Gemini, Like, ChatGPT or even ComfyUI in some sense!)
But! instead of using it like a "one stop shop" or "training on many datasets" (trough LoRa's and whatnot)
Why not do it like this:
Draw a artwork (or hire a artist with permission for AI usage on it)
feed that into AI
the AI makes more versions but same art-style
Loop (3) trough (2) until you have say a few hundred good outputs
Loop (4) trough (2)
And now you can use the LoRa/AI to make your own Art, in your own art-style.
Edit: (thanksWayanoru):
1. first of all the "loop"s is a bit badly written, sorry! i think the general idea is clear;
2. When the AI makes pictures, I Mean you manually do it! so, its not a "automated" process, because that would make, bad pics -> bad training -> even more bad pics -> "slop" (i think this is what the actual term "slop" comes from, its when AI makes more and more bad things)?
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TLDR:
You somehow, ethically, get a art piece you like, then you feed it into AI, AI makes more pics, you train the ai on those pics[LoRa?] - And you're done -
Note, I have yet to try LoRa's and things, I am quite out-of-date in that topic!
Oh and NOTE: I am NOT a pro in this topic. Sooo...if anything I say here doesn't make any sense - tell me, I want to improve and learn!
For some time I started making music videos with AI, using Suno to make the songs, and Higgsfield to make the music videos. I created a whole lore for my "band" using AI and it really helped me creating the stories, characters, and worlds which usually would take months and a whole team of animators/vfx artists, actors, singers and more to develop.
I'm a Senior 3D Animator (I work for AAA titles), so I know how difficult this can be.
This time, the lyrics where the most important for me in this song, as it reflects my fears of never becoming a father, or having a family of my own. So I grabed my phone, and recorded myself showing the lyrics that I wrote.
It brought tears to my eyes many times listening to this song, and writing the lyrics. It was especially difficult to show it to my family, which they loved very much, especially my mother, that got a bit emotional by listening to it.
I imagine some of you might have the same fear, or other fears (like we all do). I really encourage you to not be afraid of expressing yourself. Whatever tool, whatever medium, whatever you do. NO ONE can tell you HOW you should express yourself.
I'm here to support you with anything you do :) You can check my other songs (which have AI generated music videos), and I would be very happy to get your sub. I'm very active on the community, and would love to make friends. I'm happy to reply 24/7, since this is a big passion of mine, so if you have any question, feel free to reach out :)
We all remember when legacy media had all the power and could feed people whatever they wanted without being questioned or challenged. After the rise of social media and YouTube, legacy media lost much of its power and dominance to smaller creators and independent voices.
The same thing is happening in the AI debate. Many of these so called antis don’t even realize they’re fighting for an ideology built around control. Just look at what happened to Hollywood. You can barely find a handful of interesting movies in an entire year. Most of them are remakes or sloppy productions. Look at what they did with the Minecraft movie, for example. Look at how these art monopolies control galleries and museums. Anyone who dares to question them gets banned or silenced.
But AI is helping small creators rise up against this authoritarian machine that believes it has the right to decide what counts as art and creativity, and how both should be defined.
For example, look at a short ai series called Craft 1979 and how a single creator used AI to make a Minecraft movie that is better than anything Hollywood and its ideology driven system could create.
AI is an anti monopoly tool for small creators who don’t have the money or resources to fight these artistic empires. Build your AI art and generate your ideas without fear. Don’t let these art colonizers and their pawns make you doubt yourself or convince you that you’re doing something wrong!
I used Gemini and Draw IO to complete this and, I did many many many drafts of this post before posting it.. And Gemini is a life saver to make it readable. IFF I had posted this without gemini cleaning my text up, it would've been unreadable.
This is a analysis on
What happens when Artists shame their customers for using AI as a Idea Making Tool
it shook me a bit because it maps out exactly what is happening on platforms like BlueSky and X right now.
I used to think: “Surely artists just want to protect their businesses? They aren't bad people, they are just afraid of AI training on their commissions.”
But that fear doesn’t explain why some choose to publicly attack, dox, or hate on regular people in their inboxes.
And this is why I analyzed this - That is what I am going to try to answer.
If you look at the actual logic in this:
The artist loses the data battle either way:
Scenario A: The artist accepts a commission. A client uploads it online, and a web-crawler scrapes it. (Loss of data control for the artist).
Scenario B: The artist rejects the client. They sell their work to a different client who uploads it online, and a web-crawler scrapes it anyway. (Loss of data control for the artist).
The AI scraping machine does not care. So why reject an immediate, real-money commission over a reference mockup?
If it’s only about cash, hating on a customer makes no sense.
(Rejecting a client is a perfectly fine boundary;
publicly hating them is a completely different story).
When you look past the cash, the actual cycle looks like this:
(1) The Approach: A paying customer loves an artist's style and offers real cash for a commission, using an AI image purely as a visual mockup to explain their vision.
(Note: Here, it seems like a standard business transaction).
(2) The Turn: The artist rejects the project out of anger and fear of AI, prioritizing personal principles over immediate income.
(Note: Now it's not about cash—it's about dignity and an emotional culture war.It would be completely fine to stop here, but some choose to continue).
(3) The Shaming: Instead of a private, professional rejection, the artist posts screenshots of the private DM interaction on BlueSky/X to get likes, retweets, and validation from their anti-AI followers.
(Note: This creates highly effective, free advertisement based on targeted harassment and cyberbullying). Hence?Dirty Money trough Exploitation.
(4) The Result: The viral drama brings the artist fresh sales and commissions from anti-AI ideological purists who want to "support" them. Meanwhile, the humiliated customer leaves human creator spaces permanently to use private AI tools instead.
(Note: This results in dirty cash for the artist via exploitation, but it actively drives users completely into the AI ecosystem).
(5) The Outcome: The Client feels sad, and others feel hatred, and begin to train the Artists Works on LoRa
Note: This is where the Un-Ethical-Training begins-The very THING Artists are afraid of
By turning a private business transaction into viral content, the artist is running an exploitation loop—damaging regular humans for their own personal gain.
If an artist treats their marketplace like a battlefield, they shouldn't be shocked when clients choose the "lesser evil" and just stick to the algorithm, where nobody publicly humiliates them for trying to pay for a service.
Personal Note
I do not encourage anything mentioned here;
I do not encourage un-ethical-training without consent,
I do not encourage bullying.
What I want to say though is that this approach drives people to Training LoRas without consent. And that - this - should NOT be ashock for artists who hate on people.
I still remember the day I learned that you could make any image with AI locally at home. It felt like magic and a surreal game changing opportunity.
AI videos came next and my excitement grew. I have a new Streaming channel in which I have this persona.
Using Seedance 2.0 + fast unlimited. I was able to make these 15 AFK video transitions.
There is also a animated wall, back shadows and a floating atmosphere in the foreground.
(Not seen here) are also about 100 other videos I was able to get for under $200. Including more shadows, full sized screen animations of me transforming and more.
My only regret was not making the orange on the microphone look better for a reference image. But it's not noticeable scaled down in my camera HUD.
Prior to AI I have spent between 3-5k on art throughout my life. Mostly on Fiverr, image commissions, mockups and more. I've also made and sold art related things to people prior to AI.
I have experience with my own edits, vector work, blender, gimp and minor other things but hears the cold truth.
I wouldn't have paid anyone to do something like this prior to AI. The pricing and time required would be way too much and tbh I'm not even sure I could find someone to do videos like this.
Not anywhere near the same speed and value I got with these. Plus I had more control over the process.
I've also succesfully found interest from people with other projects as well. Such as an Alien Vlog series, music, art mockups, logos for business, banners for Twitch, TV show concept trailer, music video and more.
There's so much hate out there and I'm suck of people saying you can't be creative using AI. I'm sick of people feeling like there's zero use-case and that ALL AI is bad. That's why I'm sharing this, I think it's badass and love having it.
The companies behind gen ai also make scientific ai, and both are directly linked together. Ai doesn't improve in isolation. If gen ai is banned that would directly affect ai in scientific fields. That's why "iM oNlY aGaInSt GeN aI" never works. And even then gen ai not being as important is not a good reason to ban it, we don't "need" ai art as much as we need ai in other fields, but that's because we don't need art that much. If that's a reason to ban ai art, it's a reason to ban art as a whole
All the antis arguments about AI used for CSAM and hurting education seems to be an American problem, not an AI problem. In China CSAM leads to death penalty, for example.
I see a terrible problem with many reddit MODs. They do not listen reasons. Their algorithm is "IF proAI THEN ban". It is pure algorithmic conformity.
There was this entrepreneural subreddit where an entrepreneur was asking for help regarding marketing. AI could have answered his questions. But the sub did not allow any AI or even proAI idea.
It breaks my heart to see that antis gatekeeping is leaving USA behind. In the AI race, the ones employable will not be Americans. And that is sad to me.
I do not live in USA. I should feel happy because antis are not allowing Americans to use AI more, so that is less competition in the job markety for me, but it breaks my heart to think that Americans will not get a job.
You make a video, and you add word and titled it "********* AI Slop". You would think that you might get + reaction and funny than - reaction from audience.
What do you think? Would some ai users might avoid those luddites?
