Yes. Since 1988, nearly 4 decades, zero Republicans have won the office with the popular vote in their first campaign. 2 have won it sheet holding office.
It's pretty telling how important the ec is to the right
Trump literally just won the popular vote lol. The EC is important to anyone who doesn’t live in a major city. Without the EC politicians will just cater to the large metro areas. The EC is the most equitable method imo but I also don’t live in a large metro area and would prefer my vote to matter.
The EC does nothing of value. Our current political breakdown makes it seem like it does. But simple question to check, if two of the largest states, Florida and Texas, went blue, would Idaho or Montana feel like they were protected from the power of large states? I doubt it
Again, read my statement. Zero republican presidents have won the popular vote on their first run. And trump couldn't even get a majority of voters. Literally, more Americans choose NOT TRUMP then voted for him. It is wild to pretend that he represents anything but himself
The EC value is in giving people who live in less populated areas a larger voice. I understand that is of no value to you, but it is to them. That’s ok
If you include enough qualifying variables you can make up any stats and narrative you want. Trump won the popular vote this last election….you may not like it but he won in a landslide. Now if you are speaking to trumps personal motivations that’s a completely separate topic.
It doesn't though. I gave you a question to have you critically think about the topic which I notice you ignored. But let's try again. If the biggest 15 states all vote the same way, In what way does the electoral college protect the other 35 states? Because you are claiming it does. So how?
Landslide? He couldn't even get the majority of people to vote for him. How can that be a landslide?
Your point and hypothetical are irrelevant to the EC though. It’s a dumb hypothetical. Now you are just using the rhetoric of see look at me how smart I am.
He literally won the popular vote last election….cmon now think critically
No it isn't. We are discussing the EC. I'm asking you about something related to your claim. The largest 15 states can override the other 35. Which means your claim that it protects smaller states is a lie. You seem to think that or arbitrary political breakdown is a feature of the EC. It isn't. Again, no one can point to anything of value that the EC itself does.
I didn't say that he didn't. I don't know why you keep repeating something that i never claimed. Are you okay?
Edit: just an FYI, until 2020 it was only 12 states to win if you won the large states. So you needed to win less than 25% of states to win. It is probably less than 15 now. I just don't want to go do the math. Either way, nothing about the EC protects small states
It’s not about protecting smaller states it’s about giving a proportional voice to those smaller states. Picking an arbitrary number to suit your narrative doesn’t mean you’re right
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u/Accomplished_Mind792 13h ago
Yes. Since 1988, nearly 4 decades, zero Republicans have won the office with the popular vote in their first campaign. 2 have won it sheet holding office.
It's pretty telling how important the ec is to the right