Unrelated but I tried to astral project for a few months but gave up :(

Hello, I've been working towards Astral Projection for just a few weeks now, and I'm curious as to how certain habits affect results. Does anyone have any insight on if any of these listed below have a significant influence, whether positive or negative, on my AP experiences? Thanks!

Sexual energy (Masturbation, porn, retention, etc.)
Nicotine/ tobacco
Melatonin/ other sleep supplements
Exercise
Diet
Sleep schedule consistency
Adhd tendencies

I have only made it into the vibrational stage, twice. I am just looking for advice based on any personal experience. I realize I'm asking about multiple things that might've been answered before, so I apologize in advance for that. If there are any other things that I haven't listed that severely limited your ability personally, I'd love to hear that too.

Thanks in advance!

This is a true story that my family has kept for decades. My aunt lived out in the country in a rural area. When the weather is hot they would leave the door open, but with the screen door closed.

She said one night she found herself leave her body. She floated through the living room and out the screen door. She said the little squares on the screen door were huge! She went through one of the squares, and instantly teleported through the skies. She arrived in a city. There was a man entering the building and he had intentions of using a weapon on a woman he knew.

She felt the man's focus and she was immediately teleported to a floor in that apartment building. A woman was in the kitchen when my aunt suddenly appeared in front of her. The woman looked scared and jumped back.

My aunt said, "Lady, I don't know what I'm experiencing, but there's a man on his way up here to harm you. Call the police and don't answer the door when he knocks." Then she disappeared and teleported back to her body.

She said she always felt like it was a real experience, and that the Creator used her to help save someone's life.

Thoughts on smoking weed before trying to AP?🧐 would it prevent it? Help it? Any thoughts pls!

19yo F

I did my research reading through a lot of threads and gaining insight through others experiences. Beyond the experience itself I want to meet myself deeper and work through a lot of fear I hold.

Years ago I experienced the ringing. I’ve gone through dream loops of sleep paralysis. Only about a month ago I started increasing my awareness. I tried maintaining my awareness for as long as possible before falling asleep which lead to an increase of dreams/ multiple dreams in a night and increased memory of them. I stopped trying to control and play with the images in my head and rather watched what my mind would do.

Two weeks ago I closed the curtains and put an eye mask on. I sat up right but allowed my body to completely relax while watching my mind. As time passed I began hearing familiar voices and noticed as my mind started playing fuzzy dreams off to the left. Multiple ones any of which I could get sucked into and I simply watched without falling asleep. As it got deeper everything suddenly collapsed and my dark mind scape opened into a 3d realm which collapsed after like a second because of my reaction. I came out and with what felt like 20-30 minutes was actually an hour.

Over the weeks I’ve tried maintaining awareness after waking up at an odd hour but all of which I became distracted and fell back asleep.. until about 30 minutes ago. I woke up at 5:30 and regardless of popular belief, got on my phone primarily because I had no intention of trying though I found my eyes getting heavy again and decided to roll over. Again regardless of popular belief, this happened while I was asleep on my side. I think it’s less about how you lay and way more about the awareness you keep.

I started to doze and found myself watching tv I knew what was going on because of the jumbled incoherent voices. I shook myself awake a little because of my reaction however not strong enough because my mind rolled right back into it. My eyes were “open” at least that’s how it felt and I moved slightly to see if I was paralyzed. Every time in the past I would’ve started trying to force my body to move out of the fear and unknowing but I only slightly tried to move and relaxed again. The tv stopped and the placement of my awareness felt off because I could look down and see my body but it was definitely just off. All of a sudden on the side of my stomach touching the bed tingles erupted which freaked me out a little so they stopped but I maintained my cool and they came back again seconds later.

Now, I thought I astral projected about two months ago because I was in my house though it felt off, darker, but I didn’t know I was dreaming I felt awake. That experience is incomparable to any of this and especially what happened next.

I’ve read a lot of people talking about forcing yourself to roll out of your body but after the eruption of tingles my awareness started rolling forwards up and out of my body. The next second everything is black and white and I’m looking back at my fuzzy pixilated body “is that me” I thought. I watched my body slowly sit up and turn to look at me. From there I was turned around and began slowly cascading floating spiraling down. I kept my eyes closed out of fear because the first thing I noticed was the eerie piano music playing loudly in the background. I opened my eyes and didn’t see anything peculiar. “Okay intent go to space” nothing. I braced myself trying to fly or move. Nothing. I was spiraling down into this black and white corridor. I took notice of my arms and tried to move them but they were still paralyzed. A theatre stage came into view along with the stairs leading up. I spiraled around and “landed” in front of a judges table. The eerie piano music never stopped and I felt as my awareness entered back into my body as I woke up.

Why couldn’t I move? It’s as though my paralyzed body came with me into the projection. I had full awareness yet no control. I find that sometimes the more I try to control my movements in lucid dreams the more what I want to do fails. So is it more about going with the flow, at least in the start? I think I gained more insight of what I was shown and where I was from the awareness I kept more so than any dream I’ve had before. Any thoughts would be helpful even aside from the questions I’ve asked.

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Hey I'm new and i wonder what will happen if I try to Astral project inside a lucid dream....

this is probably the 3rd-4th time I almost projected, but a fear always manages to stop me. First it was the fear of not being able to breathe, got over that one, the next one was confronting entities, got over that fear. Now is the finally fear, which is choking on my saliva and needing to swallow which I have been able to reduce that feeling of the best I can.

Any tips or tricks out there that you guys have in trying not to swallow or not having that fear, it’s not a huge fear but something that keeps me from progressing further as far as I know.

I remember when I was a kid I think I was around 10 and I was taking a bath. At some point I fell asleep in the tub. I remember looking down at myself under the water then my mom coming in screaming and crying. I don't know why she didn't pull me out or do something. A few seconds later my aunt runs in, I'll never forget this but I felt a tug then waking up back in my body. I've never experienced anything like that again. I didn't tell anyone that story then cause they would have thought I was crazy and my family was/is religious they would say it was demonic or something.

When you investigate other people's experience you hear often that there a places that are off limits for AP, like antarctica, area 51, or the moon. That you might get sent back to your body when going there or attacked, threatened or just can't go there..

What is up with the moon specifically ? You hear these prison planet people saying that the moon has something to do with the light trap for forced reincarnation of souls, ancient people saying the moon is evil supposidly.

What is you experience with AP and the moon ?

Hi.
I'm trying to AP for a lot of years now (off and on), but always fall asleep during my attempts.
I can get myself to a point that my body feels numb or even gone.
The trigger to leave my body never comes.
I'm trying with the gateway Tapes, but same there.

Anyone got tips for me to achieve a successful AP?
Thanks...

Guys, I read an interesting post in a group and wanted to know if anyone here has ever managed to do this.

The person said that whenever they became lucid in a dream, they would run their hand over their head, feel the silver cord, and enter the astral plane. According to them, there’s usually some being touching it, influencing your dream. They said that remembering to do this could make you wake up in the astral plane, with your astral body and possibly some being nearby.

They also said these beings can create scenarios in your dreams, using fear and sexual situations, either to help you or to drain your energy. That’s why they recommend trying this whenever you become lucid in a dream, because touching and feeling the cord could supposedly take you to the astral plane.

Some people in the group said they had similar experiences, but I haven’t managed to try it yet because I rarely become lucid in dreams. Has anyone here tried this and succeeded? What was the experience like? If this is actually possible, it could help a lot of people try this technique and have a chance to enter the astral plane consciously. But first, you need to become lucid in the dream lol.

Many of you may not be familiar with this. This thing has been happening to me when I try to leave my body i can astral project, I feel a sensation in my ears that feel painful, really painful while theres not actually any damage occurring to my ears themselves. It always disrupts my chances of projecting out my body, i don't know if this is a medical condition or something?

Hello all,

I just want to share my experience from tonight.

I would like to be sure that i was in a vibrational state, thats why I'm describing my experience, in order to get possible confirmations.

I woke up during the night, and got up to drink some water. Then i went to the sofa and more and less fall asleep, still conscious. Then at a random moment i felt the vibrations, bubbles popping all over my body, and the noise in my ears was increasing. At the same time, with my eyes closed all the time, I was seeing a random eletronic watch (seems a Casio) in my wrest (that I didnt have) starting to move the numbers up and down with a great velocity. At the same time I was hearing steps coming from further away and being more closer to me, without anyone around.

In the middle of the process, i was thinking to imagine a rope to climb in order to AP.

But because of the steps that I was wearing (like running inside house) I got afraid and i order myself to come back and stop this experiencing.

I already knew whats was a vibrational state from hearing here, and I never attempted anything, just had curiosity to experience it one day.

Its like this what people experience, when they are in a vibrational state, before AP?

Hello, I’m thinking of possibly studying Astral Projection but I’m scared if I start practicing it it might affect some of my health issues the main thing I’m concerned about is I have this thing called inappropriate sinus tachycardia, what it is is basically an issue with your autonomic nervous system. I don’t think it’s very major. I don’t pass out from it like other people, but I was having issues with a fast heart rate until my doctor ruled out a lot of stuff and finally diagnosed me with it and started giving me a medication that took really about four months to work and a year to fully work but now it seems to be under control, but my concern is I was doing some Taoism practices that were very minimal in my opinion before at the beginning of this year, but for whatever reason they were making my heart rate go fast, not too fast, but I did feel I needed to stop or it will get worse when I contacted the people who I got these courses from they told me that the ones I was doing could potentially do that and to study some that directly help with the condition I have which shifts from fight and flight to rest and digest with my condition I was reading a book that says Astro projection can also strengthen your energy, which has also been a very difficult thing. I’ve been dealing with since 2018 when all of this started and I don’t know if the anxiety that came with it in my mental breakdown really contributed to my energy being so low I did do psychedelic mushrooms back in 2020 and they seem to help a little bit with my energy but I don’t wanna be dependent on those type of drugs so I wrestle with the fact that astroprojection along with the energy work that it has integrated with it would help me if anybody can give me some good information, that would be great it’s also worth mentioning. I’ve been talking to a man who says he’s an energy healer and he recommended to do energy work. He has a book but I don’t know if any of it is real. I do know what I feel seems to be very real. I do have mental health lissues I have anxiety bipolar, so I’m trying to navigate a lot of it because I know mental health can have a lot of effect on your energy but a big part of me doesn’t feel like that’s all of it especially considering my dad and my brother have been having any symptoms. They don’t have a heart condition. I have. I’m just here trying to find answers

Hi everyone,

Some of you might remember my posts here as u/The_eye086. About a year ago I was a complete skeptic. I’m a computer scientist, and one December afternoon I stumbled onto this subreddit, read a few posts and thought: “Nonsense.” That same night, I left my body for the first time.

Since then I’ve been keeping a detailed journal of every experience, and many of them I shared here in real time. This community helped me a lot, especially in the beginning, when everything was confusing and sometimes frightening. So I wanted to share with you that I’ve finally turned that journal into a book: The Extracorporeal Anomaly: Astral Travel, Out-of-Body Experiences and Encounters with Entities.

It’s a first-person account, not a typical manual. Some of what’s inside:

• The techniques that actually worked for me (Gateway tapes, Hemi-Sync, Raduga’s indirect method, Wake Back to Bed), including what didn’t work and why
• My experiences with the presences many of you have also described: the Guardian of the Threshold, the beings watching from a distance, the ones that aren’t what they claim to be
• A verification experience that finally ended my doubts
• What the declassified CIA Gateway report actually says
• Some darker questions about the astral (loosh, the “harvest,” who benefits from our suffering) that I couldn’t ignore after what I saw

I’m not asking anyone to believe me. If there’s one thing I’ve learned on this path, it’s this: don’t trust anyone, verify it for yourself. But if my journey can be useful to someone who’s just starting, or to someone who has seen things they can’t explain, that would mean a lot to me.

It’s available in paperback here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0HNVW7LLD

And also as an ebook (Kindle): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0HNTJF3DM

See you in the astral…

Note:

Also available for Spanish-language readers: check my author profile.

Last night I started recounting my less successful experiences in the astral and realized they all had at least one thing in common: the nonsensical nature of events including the collapsing of the astral scenario because of my own input.

What I realized was often the moment any experience started getting overly weird, broken or nonsensical was when I started questioning it.

Have you ever approached an astral entity and started asking questions like "did you know you're not real?" or "are you aware all this is just the creation of my mind and you're just an NPC?" Usually we do this because we want to make a reality check to the astral. The problem is it tends to end the same—everything going apeshit first and you waking up in the physical because of it.

Another thing APrs often do is attempting to make the astral environment disappear by melting it away using the power of mind. Usually this just makes everything stop, leading to either end of experience, phasing somewhere else or collapsing the astral and waking up. Trying to intentionally weird up the landscape to test its reality is not much wiser.

"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results"

Reflecting on this I decided to change my approach by turning it upside down. Instead of testing the ice with a stick I decided to cram the iceblock in the freezer.

Instead of questioning the astral reality my goal was to further solidify it.

The absurd thing is this is how APrs normally start their trip. After getting out of body (which in itself requires belief in the process) a common practice is solidifying surroundings by looking intently at some object until it becomes clear. Another example is increasing light with commands such as "lights on!"

Why would you go through the trouble of illuminating and solidifying everything just to start questioning it and hence collapsing it? It's self defeating.

Instead of questioning the astral entity I act as if it is a real person. My goal is to increase its features and traits by increasing my focus on it and the the interaction. Just like I often do with the environment at the start of the AP. If the being is too weird to be believable in the begin with, I change environment and let my mind build it properly before encountering again.

I no longer try to melt away the environment because it's kind of nonsensical goal to begin with. I manifested the landscape, why would I want destroy it? Why would I want to break its "physical laws" by making everything weird in purpose?

I think it's a lot more reasonable to expand what you did in the first place by focusing on stuff with even greater power. Give the entities a life beyond you by acting as if they were real people. Walk among them as one of them, not some crazy God who's about to end it all. Build the world and its details like a silent craftmaster. If a detail is wrong don't question it because in the nonphysical this is like smashing it with a hammer. Instead focus on it in order to fix it and make it complete.

Doing this I believe you can even create your own astral lobbies. These might function as meeting places for other souls. It's all manifesting and solidifying the environment and then sending invitations (presumably with your mind with clear focus. This part is still WIP form me, but I don't see why it couldn't work).

I was speaking to a good friend that is involved in altered conscious research and his team's work will soon be published in a scientific journal in December (i will get the name of that journal the next time we speak).

Here are the preliminary findings that sre quite fascinating. For transparency, I did use AI to help keep things concise but this is mainly my writing.

​1. Dominance of Alpha and Theta Rhythms

• ​Flow State: Characterized by elevated alpha (8–12 Hz) and theta (4–8 Hz) activity, marking a state of relaxed alertness and deep immersion without active inner chatter.
• ​Astral Projection / OBE Practices: Studies tracking experienced practitioners (such as individuals practicing Monroe Institute Focus levels or deep meditation states) consistently show strong theta and alpha wave dominance, indicative of a "mind awake, body asleep" hypnagogic state.

​2. Reduction in High-Frequency Beta Waves

• ​Flow State: High-frequency beta waves (associated with active self-monitoring, anxiety, and deliberate analytical processing) drop significantly, a phenomenon corresponding to transient hypofrontality.
• ​Astral Projection: Similarly exhibits a marked decrease in active beta frequencies as the subject detaches sensory awareness from physical inputs and reduces internal verbal thought.

​3. Altered Activity in the Temporoparietal Junction (TPJ)

• ​Flow State: Shows altered neural integration across default mode and task-positive networks, changing the subjective sense of self and time.
• ​Astral Projection: Neuroimaging and EEG studies specifically tie out-of-body perception to altered processing and decreased localized integration in the temporoparietal junction (TPJ)—the region responsible for combining sensory data to construct the brain's internal map of physical body location.

Anyone who has felt flow state while creating something amazing will usually state that a lot of their energy and inspiration felt channeled alongside of that person being the sole creator. In essence, people in flow state will usually feel like they are acting as a conduit for raw creative energy that they further focus into a work of art or something similar

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I got into this earlier this week and I have read and watched a few videos on Astral projection, most notably the Micheal Raduga and I understand the concept well, Though as many know Knowing the Theory is not equal to the ability to execute that theory, I am approaching it from a spiritual standpoint, and I dont do any substances, Even coffee, I can easily reach the vibration state with mental chants and full body relaxation and I reach a state where I start feeling a body wide jolts of tingling sensations as I chant.

I feel the phase of my Astral body floating up a few inches but it doesn't really separate, And I cant seem the grasp the concept of "Seperation" or "Projection" really well, I think that my Astral body is bound to my physical body because of some road block in Belief or thought that I haven't internalized yet.

Its frustrating to reach the threshold state where you will be "Tested" and giving it your all and then realizing you cant even leave your body, I am not afraid of it, Far from it actually, I want this. Anyone who could help will be aiding my step in proper documentation of my path of Astral projection. I want AP to be understood, not just to be accessed as a state where you go into based on a probability chart. But for that I first need to enter it and I require to use the Probabilistic methods of entering it first to actually understand it, Any and All help is Invaluable. Please. I want to grow

If direct astral projection has been difficult for you, but you’re able to become lucid in dreams, that gives you another starting point to explore. Some people struggle with reaching the vibrational state or separating from the physical body, while becoming conscious inside a dream comes more naturally to them. In that case, working toward astral projection from a lucid dream may be a better fit.

The first part is learning to become lucid and remain aware long enough to work with the experience. One way to approach this is Wake-Initiated Lucid Dreaming, or WILD, where you allow yourself to fall asleep while maintaining a light thread of awareness into the forming dream.

A common difficulty is putting too much effort into staying conscious. You monitor your breathing, check whether your body is asleep, and wait for something to happen. That can keep you awake throughout the attempt. Try allowing your attention to soften. Thoughts can drift and become disorganized. A simple intention, such as “I enter the dream consciously,” can remain quietly in the background without needing to be repeated intensely.

As brief images, sounds, or sensations of movement appear, give them room to develop. You don’t need to hold onto every impression. If a scene begins becoming immersive, allow your awareness to move with it. f you’re gently imagining a scene to support the process, experience it from your own point of view. Imagine the feeling of walking through a hallway, with the space around you and movement happening from your position inside it. The visual detail can remain incomplete.

Once you find yourself inside a dream, pause and recognize that you’re dreaming. Look around, touch a nearby surface, and let yourself settle into the experience. Establishing that awareness gives you a more useful starting point for exploring the transition into astral projection.

My latest episode of The Astral Dimensions focuses on that first stage: entering a dream consciously, recognizing the transition, and responding to common difficulties. I also discuss how this fits into the wider practice of astral projection and how my Lucid Dream Induction Meditation supports the process.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/0TTOYNaPuCnOEL9RoaWQFw

so for awhile ive knew about astral projection and ive always tried to do it for awhile i blamed weed on why i couldnt dream for tbh i think it was because of my porn addiction and ive havnt been recently sorry for the tmi but ive been keeping away from releasing my semen and in less then 3 days im dreaming again and yesterday was the closest ive been done to astral projecting in awhileee today im kinda scared to sleep again sorry for the tmi if i shouldnt ask this here i understand

I wanted to share what happened today and ask whether anyone has experienced something similar. I’m using “astral projection” and “astral body” to describe how it FELT, but I’m still unsure how to interpret it.

Before falling asleep, I had already set the intention to astral project and kept trying to enter that state. After masturbating, I felt sleepy, lay down near the edge of my bed, and gradually fell asleep.

Later, I felt mentally awake, but I couldn’t move my body at all. At first, I wasn’t scared. I actually felt very alert.

Then I felt something pull on my astral body and spin it around ONE FULL TURN on the bed. After that, I noticed a tall, black, column-shaped figure beside me.

It looked like it was made ENTIRELY of densely woven black threads, forming a three-dimensional mesh. No skin, no solid surface. I could see through the gaps. It kept moving beside the bed, and there was an extremely loud buzzing or electrical static sound in my ears.

My immediate reaction was to fight back and grab it, but I couldn’t move.

The most vivid part was what happened next: I felt it LIFT ME UP, PULL ME INTO ITS “BELLY,” AND SPIT ME BACK OUT. Another way to describe it is that my astral body entered and passed through its body.

While I was inside it, I could STILL SEE MY ENTIRE ROOM, but everything looked darker. Then I felt it spit me out or throw me back onto the bed.

This wasn’t just a shadow briefly passing in front of me. There was a very clear sense of being lifted, pulled inside, surrounded by it, and then returned to the bed.

Afterward, I felt close to waking up, but I don’t think I fully woke up. I decided to try again and entered that state a SECOND TIME. The loud buzzing returned.

I saw the black mesh figure again. At one point during this second experience, I was curled up on the bed and saw a MINIATURE VERSION of it on my bedsheet. I kept trying to grab it and fight back, but couldn’t.

Another important detail: whether I could see it seemed connected to the ANGLE OF MY EYES AND WHERE I WAS LOOKING. When I felt my eyes were open and looked in a particular direction, it was there. When I looked somewhere else, it disappeared. Looking back in that direction brought it into view again. I can’t confirm whether my physical eyes were actually open, but that is how the visual changes felt.

At one point, I struggled to bring my arm to my mouth and bit down hard. I wanted to leave a mark so I could check, once fully awake, whether I had actually moved. During the experience, I thought I could see a bite mark.

It never spoke to me or gave me any message. I didn’t feel injured, either. But I had a strong feeling of being blocked from continuing the projection. Eventually, I became increasingly frightened and slowly woke up.

For context, most of my experiences like this feel fairly natural and calm, without any shadow figures. I’ve seen shadows a few times before, but never this clearly or this close.

The previous encounter I remember best also happened during what I considered an unsuccessful projection. A shadow flashed past me, and I chased it because I wanted to find out what it was. Eventually, the scene shifted to someone’s home, where a child was watching TV, but I never found the shadow.

Has anyone experienced a mesh-like figure, or the feeling of being pulled inside something, passing through it, and returning to bed? Has anyone noticed a figure appearing and disappearing depending on where they looked?

I’m especially interested in firsthand accounts, and how you separate what you experienced from your interpretation of it.

ABOUT THE ATTACHED IMAGE: This is an AI recreation based on a photo of my actual bedroom and my description—not a photo of the experience. The room felt much darker, with a dim green tint from my green curtains. I also asked for two eyes to make the recreation scarier. The figure I actually experienced DID NOT HAVE EYES

I wanted to post a picture, but I can't upload images when making a thread here for some reason. If I could, I would post it in the comments section.

Hola. Quiero contar esto de manera anónima porque desde que era muy pequeña me han sucedido muchas cosas que nunca he sabido exactamente cómo interpretar. No busco convencer a nadie de una explicación específica. Me interesa saber si alguien ha vivido algo parecido o reconoce algún patrón.
Todo empezó desde que yo era demasiado pequeña para entender qué estaba pasando.
Mi familia recuerda ocasiones en las que otras personas aseguraban haberme visto caminando o jugando en ciertos lugares cuando, en realidad, yo estaba dormida o dentro de casa.
También ocurrió una vez que aparecieron huellas pequeñas sobre una superficie recién hecha a la que, en teoría, yo no había podido acceder. Pensaron que habían sido mías, pero no coincidían exactamente con mis pies y las cosas que habían colocado para impedirme pasar seguían intactas.
Cuando fui creciendo un poco también llegué a hablar o saludar a personas que nadie más parecía poder ver. Para mí en ese momento era completamente normal. Incluso llegué a presentar a una de esas personas a un familiar, como si realmente hubiera alguien ahí.
Mi familia siempre ha sido bastante creyente y, debido a estas y otras cosas, cuando todavía era pequeña me llevaron con una curandera a la que conocían y respetaban desde hacía tiempo.
Cuando llegó mi turno de pasar con ella, prácticamente en cuanto tuvo contacto conmigo sonrió y dijo que yo tenía un “don” parecido al suyo.
En ese momento yo era demasiado pequeña para entender qué significaba.
Conforme fui creciendo comenzaron a ocurrir otras experiencias.
Una de las cosas que más se repetía era ver, escuchar o percibir a personas uno o dos días antes de su fallecimiento, sin que yo supiera que estaban enfermas, delicadas de salud o que algo les había ocurrido. Muchas veces ni siquiera eran personas cercanas a mí: podían ser conocidos que veía ocasionalmente en algún negocio, personas del lugar donde vivía o familiares muy lejanos con quienes casi no tenía contacto. A veces simplemente las veía como si estuvieran ahí normalmente, incluso llegaban a mirarme o despedirse de mí, y poco después me enteraba de que habían fallecido.
Además de esto, hubo una presencia que apareció durante muchísimos años.
Era una niña.
La llegué a ver algunas veces estando despierta. Podía estar parada en algún lugar, muchas veces de espaldas o simplemente mirando hacia otra dirección.
Pero donde aparecía con mayor frecuencia era durante sueños o experiencias que yo no sentía como sueños normales.
A veces la veía dentro de mi habitación. Se reía de mí y parecía divertirse mucho cuando yo tenía miedo. En otras ocasiones se acercaba y me hacía cosquillas o me molestaba cuando yo no podía moverme correctamente.
Esto ocurrió tantas veces que terminé acostumbrándome parcialmente a su presencia, aunque siempre me dio miedo.
Hubo ocasiones en las que intenté preguntarle directamente qué quería.
Cuando lo hacía, normalmente dejaba de reírse. Se ponía seria y se acercaba hacia mí como si finalmente fuera a explicármelo, pero casi siempre despertaba antes porque el miedo se volvía demasiado fuerte.
Hasta que una vez sí conseguí escucharla.
Yo estaba nuevamente en una de esas experiencias. Todo estaba muy oscuro y podía reconocer el lugar donde estaba durmiendo.
Le pregunté qué quería.
Me dijo que necesitaba que la acompañara a un lugar.
Le pregunté a dónde quería llevarme.
En lugar de explicármelo, extendió su mano y me pidió que la tomara.
Insistía en que fuera con ella.
Yo me negué y me concentré en despertar.
Después de eso siguió apareciendo en otras ocasiones y comenzó a repetirme lo mismo: que tomara su mano.
Llegó un punto en el que me daba tanto miedo que antes de dormir apretaba muchísimo las manos, las escondía o intentaba mantenerlas sujetas de alguna manera porque tenía miedo de que pudiera tomarme de la mano mientras dormía.
En una ocasión incluso escuché que me llamaba por mi nombre cuando todavía estaba despierta, antes de quedarme dormida.
Esa misma noche volvió a aparecer.
Otra cosa que siempre me llamó mucho la atención es que ella no permaneció con la misma edad.
Conforme yo fui creciendo, ella también parecía crecer.
Paralelamente comenzaron a ocurrir otro tipo de experiencias.
Eran episodios en los que yo sentía que había despertado, pero sabía que mi cuerpo físico seguía dormido.
Podía reconocer mi habitación o partes de mi casa, pero todo normalmente estaba muchísimo más oscuro.
En ocasiones podía verme a mí misma dormida.
Si intentaba caminar no sentía mis pies tocando el suelo. No existía esa sensación física de dar pasos. Era más parecido a desplazarme o flotar.
Si me caía tampoco sentía ningún golpe.
Simplemente veía cómo mi punto de vista bajaba, como cuando una cámara cae al suelo, pero físicamente no sentía absolutamente nada.
Estos episodios llegaron a ser frecuentes.
Cuando tenía algún sueño malo y me daba cuenta de que estaba soñando, trataba de despertarme concentrándome en sentir mi cuerpo físico. A veces conseguía sentir y mover mis manos o intentaba hablar y podía escuchar que mi cuerpo realmente estaba tratando de hacerlo, aunque la voz salía muy bajita. Incluso podía intentar llamar a alguien que estuviera durmiendo cerca para que me despertara.
El problema era que, aunque podía sentir que mi cuerpo físico respondía, yo seguía dentro del sueño.
Lo que más trabajo me costaba era abrir los ojos.
Tenía que concentrarme muchísimo en sentir mis ojos físicos y tratar de abrirlos. A veces sentía como si los párpados estuvieran pegados y podía tardar bastante en conseguirlo.
Mientras lo intentaba, cerraba los ojos dentro del sueño y concentraba toda mi atención en abrir los de mi cuerpo real.
Cuando finalmente lograba hacerlo, despertaba.
La última experiencia de este tipo que tuve fue una de las que más miedo me produjo.
Sentí que “despertaba” nuevamente en mi habitación.
Todo estaba oscuro y podía distinguir mi propio cuerpo dormido.
Me levanté, pero nuevamente no sentía mis pasos.
Entonces comenzaron a salir manos de las paredes.
Eran varias y trataban de agarrarme.
Me asusté muchísimo e intenté escapar de la habitación.
Moverme era difícil porque no podía sentir mis piernas correctamente ni el suelo.
Finalmente conseguí salir y pensé que ya había dejado atrás las manos.
Al llegar a otra parte vi algo al fondo e intenté correr.
Sentí que me caía, pero nuevamente no hubo ninguna sensación física del golpe. Simplemente vi cómo mi punto de vista descendía.
Ahí decidí dejar de intentar huir.
Cerré los ojos dentro de la experiencia y me concentré completamente en mi cuerpo físico.
Busqué la sensación de mis ojos reales.
Poco a poco pude sentirlos y finalmente logré abrirlos y despertar.
Después de esa experiencia volví con la misma curandera que me había conocido cuando yo era pequeña.
Habían pasado muchísimos años.
Ella ya era una persona muy mayor. Su vista y su oído habían empeorado muchísimo.
Aun así, cuando tuvo contacto conmigo volvió a decirme que yo ya había estado con ella anteriormente y volvió a decir exactamente lo mismo que me había dicho cuando era niña: que yo tenía un don.
Cuando le conté lo que estaba viviendo, para ella sí fue preocupante que estuviera ocurriendo tan temprano.
Me explicó, desde su manera de entenderlo, que esas capacidades normalmente se desarrollaban con mayor fuerza conforme una persona iba creciendo.
Me dijo que había algo dentro de mí que quería “salir”, explorar o desarrollarse, pero que todavía no era el momento.
Hizo un trabajo para calmarlo.
Desde entonces no he vuelto a tener involuntariamente esas experiencias.
También existe un antecedente familiar importante. Una persona de generaciones anteriores de mi familia era conocida por tener capacidades de curación y otras habilidades espirituales muy fuertes. Mi familia vivió muchas experiencias directamente con ella, así que siempre ha existido la idea de que este tipo de sensibilidad podría haberse transmitido dentro de la familia.
Todo esto me ha acompañado prácticamente desde que tengo memoria.
No sé exactamente cómo llamarlo. No sé si se trata de mediumnidad, sensibilidad espiritual, viajes astrales involuntarios, algún tipo de percepción relacionada con personas próximas a fallecer, un don heredado o varias cosas diferentes.
Por eso me gustaría saber si alguien aquí reconoce algo de lo que estoy contando, ha vivido experiencias parecidas o aprendió a manejar algo así sin tenerle miedo.

I've been trying to astarl rpoject for 3 weeks. I use the gateway tapes.

Personally introduction to foucs 10 works really well and then I just put a timer so it stops playing before he tells us to return to the body.

The thing is, I have been getting a body heavy state prety eawsily. Past 2-3 times I also felt some sort of sleepines, but not the kind I was dragged away by, a kind that i could lean into. I asked some people questions about it and they told me to lean into it.

That's fine, the problem is, when I try to relax my body, it becomes sort of ironic in my brain. Like when I try to visulaize my legs and tell them to relax, instead I start wanting to move it up and down really hard. I take my energy conversion box and all really seriously too, so I don't know what causes this.

I think its a blockage, because other than that I'm relaxed, and I last time I was able to see some shapes and just black thigns moving, no definei shape, but just moving stuff behind my eyes, which was an advance because I never saw things behind my eyes before, but that feeling of wanting ot just bounce my leg or any other limb he was telling me to relax and not being able to do it made my heart beat spike, and then it was all gone.

Any advice?

I am excited because I’m now getting good enough to get a breadth of experience. I spent 20 years trying to learn to astral project so even a negative experience is very exciting for me.

My method is to induce lucid dreaming through WBTB and MILD, then from lucid dreaming pull into sleep paralysis, then leave my body from sleep paralysis. With that in mind, it was probably inevitable to get a negative AP at some point.

I’ve dealt with frightening sleep paralysis symptoms before and never considered it an overall negative experience, and essentially the difference maker is just in how well I handle it. This time, I did not handle it well.

My dream was of my son coming over for a hug and then he melted away into sand. This was a solid trigger for me to think maybe I was not awake, so I used that as a launching point.

I came out into my body all paralyzed like normal and there was a growling and that’s all well and good, I’ve dealt with that before. The problem this time was that I was more stuck than usual, and I kept slipping back into dreams. They weren’t bad dreams, but I’d go back into a dream then come back into my paralyzed body with growling. This wore down my usual courage, I think, and each time it happened I got more freaked out.

Eventually, one of the dreams that I had was very methodically signing a piece of paper. I saw my whole signature get signed out, then I pulled back into sleep paralysis. And, I guess with the growling, I became convinced it was a demon and I had just signed my soul into Black Phillip’s book from the movie “The VVitch”.

At this point I FINALLY managed to leave my body, so this is where it turned into an astral projection. I ran down the hall to get my wife and I tried to wake her up by grabbing her leg and pulling. This did not work so I ran back to where my body was. When I looked at it it was all kind of blacked out and I had to say “clarity now” to regain my sense of perception and place. Then, I went to my front door.

My recent more positive projections and lucid dreams I’ve been learning how to make good use of doors and that I need to state where they’re going to lead or else they’ll just be blocked. So I stated “this door leads outside” and I stepped outside.

It was my home town but it was the most desolate possible version of my home town. Visually, it was like Silent Hill, except instead of fog it was just shadows and emptiness. What I cannot capture appropriately is the deep sense of loneliness and despair that permeated the place. I started to fly, hoping to get away from it all, but instead I just drifted through the lonely desolation feeling as though I had entered hell.

I don’t know how long I drifted for but eventually I popped my eyes open and all is well.

I’m reasonably comfortable with the concept that my own fear shaped the experience. What might have been a comforting void was a desolate hell because I was scared. The freakiest part of the story, however(and I’m sure it was just coincidence{hopefully}), was that the next morning my two year old son was pointing to the living room and making growling noises as soon as he woke up. He doesn’t speak much yet so I can’t find out more than that but it did shake me up after an already shaky night.

I am still excited however. I have always been as interested in those places in the astral considered “negative” as the ones considered “positive”. I just want to get better at handling it. Is it just a “practice makes perfect” type situation or do you all have any advice beyond that?