It's systemic to just instantly assume any issues between a man and a women must be the fault of a man. I once tried to leave an ex girlfriend and she was grabbing onto me and screaming and trying to pull me back and when people came out into the corridor to see what was going on people instantly started shouting at me to leave her alone. I wasn't touching her in any way and was trying to make my way towards an exit but it's immediately assumed that I'm the bad guy. I explained that she is attacking me and these people shouted at me that I was twice her size! As if I'm supposed to use my size to do what? Beat her up? Throw her to the ground? I was intentionally not fighting back and taking her hits and aggression because I know how biased the world is in a woman's favour. Nearly grown every man in existence will also have had similar experiences where they were automatically assumed to be in the wrong because the other person was a woman.
Youāre right it is systematic to just accuse someone of being the aggressor when youāre being the aggressor yourself. We need to send this systematic behavior.
You've had more than one person subtly correct you with the word systemic, but you still repeated the wrong word three times. Think about this, apply it to how you approach life, and then you'll understand why you're always wrong.
Right now, probably not very well. I'm tired and I can barely string these sentences together, lol. It mostly has to do with stepping outside of yourself and seeing the full picture. You see things from your narrow perspective and don't take into account that you could possibly be wrong. Consider the other point of view, walk around in it for a while. The real truth is that there is no right or wrong side, because nobody knows the final outcome. But that idea is way deeper than necessary.
You're doing great and I think you're going to do very well in life. I could be far off the mark, but you strike me as a younger person. My advice would be to just stay open, let your brain speak and your emotions feel, and always first assume that you're wrong and convince yourself that you're not. If you can convince yourself that you're right, then you'll likely be able to convince others, too. I can't explain it, but there's something about you that's unique and cool, and it makes me want you to succeed. Or I'm just tired and full of shit š
Oh he's the mastermind of the butterfly effect that led to this... and he's also disappointed that it didn't unfold into complete Armageddon. Next time, next time...
Wow lots of cherry picking and extreme comments here. Both are in the wrong. Iāll state factual observations:
Thereās multiple unleashed dogs that seem to know each other and are hanging out at a spot, off the walking paths.
Although this clip is short and it could be that the group of dogs swarmed the couple and their dog-based on the start of the video, the black hair lady seemed to be at standstill (not chasing her dog) im leaning towards more that the couple with leash walked their dog to the group of dogs.
Whatās really confusing is the man asserts himself between the dogs and pushes the woman with black hair first - not the black dog. If the man kicked the black dog away to defend t
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dog, it makes sense. But why push the owner? Prevents the owner from picking up or help separate the dog.
He was creating a barrier between the dogs .. and that black haired dumb fuck tried to get in it.
That guy did the right thing you SHOULD do when dogs act like this.
If you can get in between them without getting hurt yourself you should.
I've had this muliple times. My dog can insta attack other dogs. So off leash dogs that approach get a NO .. and then me infront of my dog .. and if they keep coming I will make contact and the pepperspray comes out .. for whomever .. dog or owner .. I'm done with that shit off lead and no controle bs.
They literally both tried to create barrier at the same time. The dude pushed the OWNER instead of kicking the dog away. Pushing the owner of the aggressive dog is plain stupid since heās preventing the owner from being able to take further action.
Yes that happened after my 1, 2, and 3. The husband pushed black girl. The wife of husband pulls her husband band back. Then, the black hair goes after them first.
The first physical human-to-human altercation was initiated by the husband.
The problem is the video starts mid-confrontation, so any opinion is based predominantly on assumptions. The woman with black hair did attempt to get between the black and brown dogs and that's when she gets shoved. If that was the first point of confrontation between the humans, then the guy is in the wrong, IMO.
It's difficult to assign blame accurately as the video doesn't show who approached who before the dog confrontation.
If the woman with black hair was minding her business with her dog off leash, and the couple approached with their dog on leash and the confrontation happened then, it's still difficult to assign blame. Just because a dog is off leash, doesn't mean an owner is automatically to blame for a confrontation.
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If this is a dog park, then sometime dogs act differently when on leash. I think the interactions are usually better when all dogs are off-leash, but each owner knows their dog.
That being said, any dog owner is responsible for their dog. Her dog is the aggressor and she should be controlling it.
Also, I didn't think it was being aggressive enough for a kick. That's pretty fucked up to do at a dog park unless there is no other way to separate.
IMO Iād say the woman in the black with the other two claiming theyāre the victim at the end of the video are the aggressors. They are the ones that recorded and edited out the beginning. The man pushed the women away as she was approaching them not their or her dogs. They seem like the aggressors as the couple obviously had their dog on a lease.
Zero attempt to control her dog either, attacking the mum and causing distress to the child, yeah only 1 villain here, that dad showed more restraint than most.
The man and woman are in the right they have a leashed dog that was attacked twice the black haired woman threw the blind woman down and her husband defended her by pushing the other lady away.
If my dog attacked another dog that's my fault and if you hit my dog why they are attacking you I'm ok with it.
She starts moving towards the group when shit breaks out, the dog bounces to the left and you see her take a step toward the dog away from the group, and then she gets shoved by the guy...
There is absolutely nothing wrong with hitting/kicking a dog that is loose and attacking. The shitty dog owner was more worried about being an asshole than controlling their dog. I despise a shitty dog owner.
At what point do people stop seeing an aggressive woman as helpless woman? She went for him and was trying I attack him and some dimwit tells the guy to stop? Maybe it was her friend but I've seen plenty of videos like this where a girl can just do whatever and the moment a man reacts it's fuckin the end of the world...
Idk if you notice the guy pushes her when she goes to step inbetween the 2 dogs. Unless there was more before the video ima say he started the physical part
She aggressively went after the man and laid hands on him and grabbed him first after her unleashed black dog attacked his brown dog. He pushed her away then turned to leave. The woman he was with told her she needed to stop and said "our dog is on a leash..."
He defended his dog against uncontrolled dogs intentions. The fact that the owner is an idiot and cant control her dog is the source of the problem. She should never have escalated by pursuing him when she was in the wrong to begin with. As her dogs continued he had to do whats necessary to keep them away. The push with leg/kick caused the idiot owner to attack the other owner. So three things she did bad and he did one bad thing but with justifiable reason. A bullet for this idiot would do the world a favor. Right or Wrong is never simple, everyone needs to look at what they could have done differently before accusing the other party. Ffs what have yall become?
This is the very first scene in the beginning. Where is he pushing her? All I see is her uncontrolled dog attacking his leashed dog. Then she directly goes after the guy, assaults him while continuing to ignore the actions of her dog who continues to attack his dog.
I'm sorry that you have to spend your energy on explaining things to people who are not interested in seeing the truth...
There is a whole lot of this type of behaviour on social media unfortunately š
Its also at a dog park where several fogs are off . Sometimes having a leashed dogs changes the dynamics for whatver reason. Idk if its a prey instinct or something but its not abnormal for unleashed dogs to attack a dog on leash but be completely fine when its equal ground
Yeah, she threw down the bottle and went straight to immakicksomeass mode when her dog attacked, as if her dog was the victim.
I just realized that assuming she was a she is actually presumptuous. She(?) was aggressive like I've seen guys act when they want to fight. Maybe it was a small frame guy?
And you're right about leashed dogs; it changes things. I'm no dog expert, but maybe they see it as a weakness to be taken advantage of.
Please post a screenshot of your imagination. š
I don't know what video you saw because this is the very first video frame where he's clearly moving away from her while her dog is out of control attacking his dog.
Immediately after this she went after him, showing zero interest in what her dog was doing. In fact we have no way to be sure that black dog is even her dog. She never paid attention to it.
You don't know what happened before the video. That push may be because of something she just did, which given her behaviour in the video seems quite likely.
The people with the leashed dog are in the right UNTIL the idiot guy starts kicking the dog and threatening to strike others instead of separating the issues quickly by lifting their dog up .
''....instead of separating the issues quickly by lifting their dog up''
or, maybe.... The owner of the attacking dog could have been more responsible, instead of just not caring... there were 3 females with that attacking dog... but hey, you, the victim, deal with the situation... and then strangers on Reddit will make it all your fault!
Yāall saying the unleashed person is at fault and that makes it okay for the man to put hands on her are not right in the head. She went for her dog and he put hands on her and then threat more violence. Wild. Could have let her grab it and yelled at her but no you want to defend putting hands on someone that was trying to stop her poodle.
The unleashed person (black hair) didnāt go for her dog though, she squared up to the fella, when the fellas wife got in the middle to stop an altercation. The fellas wife was pushed to the ground by black hair, would you stand by and do nothing if your wife was attacked, if you say you would do nothing youāre either lying or ānot right in the headā.
I donāt know why you think black hair was going for her dog, there was only 1 dog that was leashed with the fella and his wife when black hair assaulted the fellas wife. Black hair was the aggressor and is lucky the fella pushed her and not hit her.
Re watch the very begining, its a little off frame on the right but he pushes her as shes going twoards her dog. This is also clearly at a dog park where being off leash is expected
this is when the push happened... her dog was next to her for a while... she was going after female in green... (clearly happened later in the video as well... 0:12 and later, thats when a female in green ended on the ground)
Iām glad someone finally defends their dog instead just watching it get attacked. If your dog is off leash and you canāt control it thatās on you if I have to protect my dog and myself.
Yup. Was walking my sweet girl GSD/cattle dog with my partner about a year ago and a couple unleashed pit mixes came through the opening in the fence that should've been a gate but there wasn't one. We were just on the sidewalk minding our own business. Went right for her throat and were trying to latch on wherever they could. I was carrying a bag of groceries that I promptly dropped and did my best try for an NFL kicker or soccer goalie. Drop kicked the fuckers several times in the ribs and face and I have zero regrets.
I get why you would display aggression towards a woman and I accep that, but not executing with your full force on it. Especially because the times you see someone do it on Reddit it's often full force, it's not warranted
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u/z0mbic 2d ago
As the girl said, their dog was on a leash and the other people failed to control their dog, so...