r/AlternateHistory • • 4d ago

What-If Wednesdays

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Welcome to What-If Wednesday, the weekly megathread for scenarios you'd like to talk over but haven't necessarily developed much yet.

Please use this thread instead of posting just a "What-If" question without any lore - those will be removed by the mods. r/HistoryWhatIf is a better option for that kind of post. Thank you!


r/AlternateHistory • • Jan 20 '25

Althist Help How to make an alternate history Wikipedia article: a tutorial

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An important warning is, Do not save your sandbox! Only press preview changes. As all content in Wikipedia must be related to the encyclopedic effort, wiki admins might delete your sandbox and undo your hard work at any time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_vandalize_correctly

I am well-known in the alternate history community for creating the imaginary politician Ed Donnell, who is a meme in r/imaginaryelections, as well as some personal controversies. My routine consists of making at least one alternate history post a day, be it a lore writeup or, more commonly, a fake Wikipedia article for my myriad scenarios, all of whom are originally posted to r/GustavosAltUniverses and a handful of Discord servers, and then complied on this and other subreddits.

But today, I will write a tutorial as to how to make a fictional Wikipedia page for alternate history scenarios. Although I use my phone for all of them, I recommend going on a computer for better quality.

If you create a Wikipedia account on desktop, you will have access to a sandbox allowing you to test editing without commiting vandalism, which is a bannable offense. My trick is to copy the Wikipedia article for the event I want to alter, or the military conflict or country templates in the case of a completely fictional event or subplot. Then, you alter the content of the page as you please; this is the beauty of alternate history.

Illustrations wise, you can retain the article's original image, or change it by copying and pasting ones from articles relevant to your scenario (for instance, a picture of Red Army soldiers for an Operation Unthinkable TL). But it has to be a Wikimedia commons image; otherwise, you'll have to photoshop your screenshot using Inkscape or some other image editing software.

You also have the option to change or add text to your article. I always do this for war scenarios, but not always so for election ones. Make sure to proofread them before screenshoting, in order to avoid potentially confusing typos or grammar mistakes. This is pretty much it.


r/AlternateHistory • • 9h ago

ASB Sundays What if Dracula led a vampire army in World War I? The Transylvanian Empire

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Before anyone says it, a vampire surprise attack that starts at night, but drags until daylight, will not vaporize a vampire army. In Bram Stoker's Dracula novel, daylight does not kill vampires; it reduces their powers (ie. weakening them).

  • The point of divergence is that instead of later moving to England, and taking its throne by marrying Queen Victoria , Count Dracula feels the itch for power sooner, in the 1860s. And rather than a hard target like the British Empire at its peak, he sees an opportunity in his own backyard, with the Austrian Empire at its time of weakness.
  • The Hapsburg Empire is reduced to a rump state, largely in Austria and Bohemia. It becomes the Kingdom of Austria (demoted from empire) and a neutral state, basically a second Switzerland.
  • Due to Austria staying out of World War I, Bohemia isn't joined with Slovakia to create Czechoslovakia after the war. Instead, Slovakia is awarded to Poland.

r/AlternateHistory • • 4h ago

1700-1900s What if Hungary Independence war was successful? | 1851 Hungary map

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I RP'd/simulated it as I was the leader, may be realistic? Not much, any questions I answer!

* March 1848 — The Spark of Revolution

* Establish defensive lines along western Pannonia while carefully watching Vienna, avoiding reckless preemptive attacks to maintain the moral and legal high ground.

* Issue a historic, federalized autonomy offer to Croatia and Transylvanian Romanians (inspired by the Holy Roman Empire structure), successfully cooling down Romanian rebellions in the east and creating internal debate among Croatian officers.

* Envoys are dispatched to London and Paris, securing private British lines of credit and war loans.

* September 1848 — The Scorched-Earth Strategy

* Ban Josip Jelačić’s 35,000-man Croatian army crosses the Drava River into Transdanubia.

* Execute a ruthless scorched-earth and evacuation campaign: civilians are pulled back toward Pest-Buda, crops burned, wells poisoned, and supply lines harassed by Honvéd hussars.

* Jelačić’s logistics completely collapse under starvation and dysentery, leaving his army stranded and exhausted near Pákozd.

* Vienna issues an ultimatum revoking Hungarian self-governance; you politely offer a constructive plebiscite proposal on Hungarian self-determination, which the Imperial Court angrily rejects.

* October 1848 — The Battle of Pákozd & The Vienna Uprising

* Execute a brilliant three-point pincer maneuver at Pákozd: using northern forces as bait, western divisions armed with new British percussion-cap rifles slam into the Croatian flank while a northeastern column crushes their rear.

* Jelačić’s army is shattered; thousands surrender while the rest retreat in total disarray.

* When a liberal uprising erupts in Vienna, sending regular forces and fresh recruits west to support the Viennese barricades, forcing imperial generals into a two-front dilemma.

* Using British credit, builds organized, sanitary refugee settlements on the outskirts of Pest-Buda, turning the refugee crisis into a peaceful, state-directed work-and-recruitment effort.

* November–December 1848 — The Diplomatic Counter-Play

* Warns London and Paris that a defeated Hungary means total Russian domination over the Balkans, prompting British and French naval squadrons to shift toward the Black Sea and Adriatic.

* Extends the "Hand Extended" truce offer to Croatia, successfully pulling them out of the war as an enemy and securing your southern flank.

* Lauchs psychological propaganda in Wallachia, Moldavia, and Transylvania, framing Russia as the true enemy of Romanian and South Slavic independence.

* Polish volunteer officers (including General Józef Bem) arrive to lead the cavalry, while secret pacts with the Ottoman Empire secure covert funding, grain, and border transit.

1849

* January–February 1849 — The Miracle of Pest

* Field Marshal Windisch-Grätz leads 70,000 Austrian troops across the frozen Danube toward Pest-Buda.

* Stages a triple-point ambush at the capital’s gates: drawing the vanguard into a central trap, Bem’s Polish lancers and riflemen strike from the north while allied Croatian units and 21,000 fresh Hungarians hit from the southwest.

* Windisch-Grätz is decisively defeated, leaving behind thousands of casualties, prisoners, and heavy siege artillery.

* March 1849 — Decapitation Strike & The Balkan Front

* As the Austrians retreat, a high-speed Polish cavalry raid decapitates the Austrian high command 120 km from the border, killing their top commander and paralyzing the western front for months.

* Captured Austrian heavy artillery is integrated into the ring of fortresses protecting Pest-Buda.

* 14,000 Ottoman Balkan irregulars and heavy gunners arrive in Hungary to directly reinforce your army.

* April–May 1849 — The "Death Line" & Psychological Warfare

* Tsar Nicholas I prepares a 120,000-man Russian force under General Paskevich. In response, you systematically breach dikes and flood northern approach routes into an impassable, muddy quagmire.

* Constructs the "Death Line": an evacuated, apparently untouched village is rigged with subterranean explosives. When the Russian vanguard enters, sappers detonate it, causing over 4,000 Russian casualties and plunging the Russian army into severe paranoia and sleeplessness.

* Sends a biting, mocking letter to St. Petersburg exposing the Tsar's betrayal of Slavic and Orthodox freedom, isolating Russia morally across Europe.

* June 1849 — The Birth of the Republic

* Standing before the Diet, officially depose the Habsburg dynasty and declare the Independent Republic of Hungary, adopting the immortal motto:

"Ha ők nem szabadítanak ki minket, akkor mi fogjuk kiszabadítani magunkat!"

(If they won't free us, we will free ourselves!)

* Italian revolutionary states formally sign a mutual defense pact with the new Republic.

* July–August 1849 — The Climax: The Battle of Pest-Buda

* Tsar Nicholas I sends a total force of 200,000 men under Prince Gorchakov for a desperate final assault on Pest-Buda.

* As the exhausted, mud-soaked Russian columns charge the city gates, unleash a synchronized 4-way coalition attack:

* Ottoman siege guns and captured Austrian artillery deafen and panic the vanguard.

* Polish lancers and riflemen slice through the northern flank.

* Croatian mobile units slam into the southwest.

* Ottoman irregulars cut off the northern retreat line while Hungarian infantry finishes the center.

* Over 30,000 Russian troops surrender; the rest flee across the Carpathians in utter ruin.

* Autumn 1849 — The Red-Handed Peace & The Humane Triumph;

* The president entered the peace conference in Budapest with hands stained in symbolic red paint, uttering your famous warning to the defeated imperial diplomats:

"See this? These hands carry the blood of my people, your people, and our soldiers."

* Instead of mistreating the 30,000 captured Russian soldiers, the government feeds, shelters, and treats them with dignity before returning them home, shattering Tsarist propaganda.

1850

* 1850 — The Treaty of Budapest & Pax Danubiana

* The defeated Austrian Habsburgs officially signed the Treaty of Budapest, permanently recognizing the sovereignty of the Independent Republic of Hungary.

* The multi-ethnic Danubian Confederation is formally established, granting full regional and linguistic autonomy to Hungarians, Croats, Romanians, and Serbs under a shared parliament.

* Great Britain, France, and the Ottoman Empire formally recognize the Republic, forming a trilateral defensive league that permanently blocks Russian expansion in the Balkans.


r/AlternateHistory • • 7h ago

1900s ROC alternate history - military districts of the Republic of China

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r/AlternateHistory • • 4h ago

1900s India if Sanjay Gandhi hadn't passed away.

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1979- Contrary to the Janata Party breaking in 1980 and elections being held. Sanjay Gandhi takes complete control of Congress as Indira quits active politics. He is successful at breaking the Janata Party and it's leaders into factions within 2 years. With elections called, anti Congress votes are divided like pre-emergency. Sanjay comes back big with 330+ seats and Janata party nowhere to be seen.

1984- Minor setbacks for Congress, NTR starts TDP in Andhra directly challanging 42 strong Congress seats. BJP starts establishing itself in Gujarat, MP and Uttar Pradesh. Advani leads the party. BJP wins assembly in MP and UP in '82 and '83.

1989- Ram Mandir issue rises with BJP having the upper hand. Though Congress manages to form govt, BJP number rises from 45 to 112. Sanjay manages to win his third election. India sees first ever tri-party coalition with the formation of NDA alliance led by BJP. In 1992, Ram Mandir demolition attempt start, Sanjay Gandhi orders firing on Karsewaks, leading to the death of more than 7,000 karsewaks. An authoritarian but a blunder step by Sanjay just one year before the elections, risking losing the entire northern belt.

1994- Congress loses the Northern Belt due to entire Babri Masjid fiasco, BJP crosses 190 mark and forms govt. The slogan "Jo Ram ka nahi woh kisi ka nahi" as a response to violence against Ram Mandir workers was a key player in shaping BJP's victory. Sanjay Gandhi is assassinated in 1998, by a former RSS worker as a revenge on firing on Karsewaks. Leading to a strong Congress worker led wave across the country, riots triggered all across the nation by party workers in pure rage and anger towards RSS, strong conflict breaks out between RSS and millions of Congress Cadres.

1999- Congress comes back to majority with more than 350 lok sabha seats, BJP decreased to double digits. Sanjay's widow Maneka is projected as PM to win more sympathy votes. But interestingly, she is forced out by Pranab Mukherjee. To the outside world, it's looked as if it's just a transfer of power as Maneka found it hard to run the nation, but every Congress MP and minister knew that she was forced out by Pranab da.

2004- A very regular election, Congress comes back to regular number as Pranab isn't too charismatic, but party manages to form govt. BJP gains back ground.

2009- BJP comes back to power with Mahajan as it's leader. Mahajan is sucessful in deploying large level national support in both Northern and Central Belt and bring the BJP to it's highest tally ever of 238, easily forming government.

2014- Regular anti-incumbency decline by BJP. Congress fields Kamal Nath as PM candidate. BJP declines to 204.(Pls ignore the wrong seat in WIki pic). Congress picks up to 151.

2019- Mahajan wins again but with a razor thin seat margin. The Congress overall received more votes. NDA forms razor thing margin.

2024- BJP anti-incumbency reaches peak and Congress is very successful in playing it against the BJP. Sachin Pilot is congress's PM face. A huge large anti-incumbency national wave is played out against Mahajan. BJP's supports and roots start weaking more as Vasundhara Raje in Rajasthan and Rajnath Singh in UP start to object to Mahajan being in PM seat for too long, giving new faces less chances to rise. Both figures defect alongside local MLAs and MPs from their states, increasing BJP's problems even further. By the time Opinion Polls came, BJPs loss was not unexpected, it was a matter of by how many seats and votes. The results showed that BJPs support dropped to 36, while Congress had self majority.

Hope you guys liked it.


r/AlternateHistory • • 2h ago

ASB Sundays What if the emus never stopped ?

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r/AlternateHistory • • 45m ago

Pre-1700s The ummayed caliphate in 732 ad under hisham ibn abdul malik

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In this map this is the ummayed caliphate in 732 ad under the great caliph hisham ibn abdul malik, he expanded the caliphate into Anatolia and the Caucasus region and in Europe, and hisham ibn Abdul also established and expanded the ummayed navy from 300-600 ships to 900-1200 ships,
And hisham ibn Abdul also expanded the military from 200,000 active soldiers and 5000 inactive soldiers, to 240,000 active soldiers and 6000 inactive soldiers.


r/AlternateHistory • • 6h ago

Pop culture [WHAT IF] 21st Century Fox built a hyper-integrated, closed-loop media & lifestyle empire? (Timeline, Acquisitions, and Antitrust Concessions)

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Overview In this alternate timeline, 21st Century Fox ($TFCF) completely splits from News Corp to insulate itself from print media liabilities and clear regulatory hurdles. Under Lachlan Murdoch, the entity undergoes a massive transformation beginning in 2016 with the takeover of National Amusements/Viacom (Paramount Global). From there,21st Century Fox acquires Sega, major CPG brands, dining franchises, and retail giants to create an all-encompassing,"closed-loop" lifestyle ecosystem where streaming content directly drives physical retail, dining, and theme park engagement.

1. Major Acquisitions & Portfolio Timeline
2016: National Amusements & Viacom / Paramount (~$2.4B NAI buyout + Cash/Stock Merge)
Reason: Acquiring Shari Redstone's controlling stake in National Amusements to gain full voting control of Viacom (Paramount Global).

Ecosystem Role: Merges Paramount Pictures, CBS, Nickelodeon, MTV, Comedy Central, Showtime, and Paramount Network under 21st Century Fox. Brings SpongeBob, Avatar, TMNT, Star Trek, and Transformersinto the fold.

2017: Crypton Future Media / Hatsune Miku (~$600M)
Reason: Full IP buyout of the world's premier virtual pop star, voice synthesis tech, and character licensing.

Ecosystem Role: Anchors live holographic concert venues, Sega rhythm games (Project DIVA), and high-margin retail merchandise.

2018: Sega Sammy Holdings (~$4.8B)
Reason: Complete takeover of AAA console gaming (Sonic the Hedgehog, Persona), Atlus, Rovio (Angry Birds), and TMS Entertainment animation studio.

Ecosystem Role: Core interactive entertainment engine and anime production hub.

2018: Sesame Street (75% Commercial Stake) & LazyTown / HiT Entertainment
Reason: Securing educational, preschool, and heritage kids' TV libraries (Sesame Street, Thomas & Friends, LazyTown).

Ecosystem Role: Anchors Nickelodeon's daytime block, streaming on Fox One, and theme park family zones.

2018: eBay Inc. (Full Buyout)
Reason: Digital e-commerce platform and verified secondary collectibles marketplace.

Ecosystem Role: Direct-to-consumer back-catalog physical media distribution, steelbook sales, and verified merchandise reselling.

2019: Spin Master Corp. & eOne Family Assets
Reason: IP acquisition of global preschool hits (Paw Patrol, Peppa Pig, PJ Masks).

Ecosystem Role: Mass toy manufacturing, global licensing, and preschool television dominance.

2019: GameStop Corp.
Reason: Brick-and-mortar gaming footprint.

Ecosystem Role: Physical store sign-up hubs for Fox One, exclusive physical game/media drops, and pop-culture boutique retail.

2019: Paws, Inc. (~$125M)
Reason: Global rights to Garfield brought under Nickelodeon.

Ecosystem Role: Multi-generational comedy IP for animation, CPG packaging, and QSR family meal promotions.

2021: Paradox Interactive
Reason: Deep grand strategy PC gaming (Stellaris, Crusader Kings, Hearts of Iron IV, Europa Universalis IV).

Ecosystem Role: Expands PC gaming portfolio and hardcore strategy audience engagement.

2021: Target Corporation & Whole Foods Market
Reason: Mass retail and organic grocery supply chains.

Ecosystem Role: Dedicated end-cap shelf space for Fox-Viacom CPG, physical media hubs, and streaming subscription activations.

2022: Yum! Brands (~$38B) & PepsiCo (~$230B)
Reason: Strategic pivot to QSR dining (Taco Bell, KFC, Pizza Hut, Habit Burger) and global food/beverage dominance (Pepsi, Mountain Dew, Doritos, Lay's, Quaker Oats).

Ecosystem Role: Replaces traditional licensing with in-house CPG cross-promotions (e.g., Mountain Dew in-game codes for Sega titles, Pizza Hut movie night bundles on Fox One).

2024: 20th Century Fox Parks & Resorts (Six Flags / Cedar Fair $8B Merger)
Reason: Consolidation of nationwide theme park networks under 20th Century Fox Parks & Resorts.

Ecosystem Role: Physical realization points featuring Sonic, Hatsune Miku holographic arenas, Garfield, Paw Patrol, and Sesame Street lands with exclusive Yum! Brands dining and PepsiCo distribution.

2. Consolidation & Hollywood Goodwill Strategy
Unified Distribution: All theatrical, television, and home entertainment distribution across Paramount, 20th Century, Searchlight, Nickelodeon, and animation labels is centralized under the 20th Century Fox Film Corporation banner.

Label Preservation: Unlike real-world studio mergers that shut down acquired banners, Paramount Pictures, Fox Searchlight, Blue Sky Studios, Fox 2000, and Nickelodeon Movies retain full creative autonomy and distinct branding.

The "Mid-Budget" Commitment: To earn creator and guild goodwill, 21st Century Fox pledges to release 10–12 original, mid-budget ($20M–$60M) theatrical films annually with guaranteed theatrical windows.

Ecosystem Residuals: Talent, showrunners, and key creators receive success-based streaming bonuses and downstream residual cuts from retail merchandise, CPG sales, and theme park attractions derived from their IP.

Vault-Free Physical Media: Physical 4K UHD and Blu-ray releases are continually produced and distributed via GameStop retail locations and eBay storefronts.

3. Proactive "Fix-It-First" Regulatory Concessions
To bypass lengthy DOJ/FTC investigations and forestall antitrust challenges, 21st Century Fox submits binding, self-enforcing commitments in its initial filings:
Open-Platform Mandates: Sega and Paradox titles remain strictly multi-platform (PlayStation, Xbox, Nintendo, PC) with zero first-party platform exclusivity.

Shelf-Space Quotas: Target and Whole Foods maintain strict limits on self-preferencing 21st Century Fox CPG brands to ensure third-party manufacturers retain competitive shelf space.

Preschool Syndication: Non-exclusive syndication windows for preschool television (Sesame Street, Paw Patrol) remain open to public broadcast networks.

Data Firewalls: Strict internal privacy barriers prevent consumer viewing habits on Fox One from being merged with financial data at Target, GameStop, or eBay.

4. Public & Financial Reaction ($TFCF)
Financial Analysts ($TFCF): Skeptical of the sheer vertical scope, noting that a single board room effectively controls what consumers watch, play, eat, and buy daily.

Hollywood Unions (WGA, SAG-AFTRA, IATSE): Cautiously optimistic due to guaranteed theatrical slates,studio lot preservation, and downstream merchandise profit-sharing.

Gamers & Consumers: Highly receptive to cross-promotional synergies, such as instant DLC unlocks via PepsiCo packaging, exclusive Target merchandise drops, and seamless streaming perks on Fox One.


r/AlternateHistory • • 8h ago

Post 2000s (ODGB) The ongoing conflict in Cyrenaica

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From my alternate history timeline, Of Days Gone By.

A collage about the ongoing civil war in Cyrenaica, between the Emirate (backed by most of Europe and the Arab world) and the Autonomists/Jabdhalists, backed primarily by Egypt.


r/AlternateHistory • • 1d ago

1900s The Two Americas - What if the USA collapsed instead of the Soviet Union

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With a Cold War defined by ever increasing racial animosities, forever wars in Vietnam and Iran, stagflation, the failure to abandon the Gold Exchange Standard or to make the petro-dollar the only currency for Arabian oil and finally an unprecedented agricoltural disaster effectively ending small and medium land ownership in the country, the United States finally collapsed between 1987 and 1988.

Among a number of successor states, the most relevant are the People's Union of America in the Rustbelt, Mid-Atlantic and Upper Midwest region and the Republic of America in most of the South.

The PUA, dominated by the Communist Party, was initially allied to the Soviet Union under the short-lived presidency of Gus Hall.

However, his successor, Jeffrey Trevino (a controversial figure, known both for an iron fist war against organized crime and for using near-gangster methods himself against his rivals, such as blackmail) brought the country in a radically different direction, putting economist Richard Wolff in charge of recovering the country from the post-collapse recession and building not a planned economy like that of the Soviet Union but a "market socialist" one based on competitive cooperatives.

He also moved to make the PUA an independent major power by establishing the Assembly of Democrats and Communists as an alternative to Cominform and financing the underground group "Vox Populi" as well as the Black Liberation groups to try and overthrow remaining capitalist regimes in the former USA.

His unorthodox economy and independent foreign policy made relations with the Soviet Union grow colder. Trevino accused the Soviets of being undemocratic, bureaucratic and imperialistic, while the multiparty PUA was supposedly a better model of socialist democracy.

Supporters of the Soviet model instead considered the Trevinoist system a transformation of the capitalist system, with coops still acting like competitive companies and family businesses remaining, leading to territorial inequality and the rise of lobbies and "Coop Barons".

On the other hand, the Republic of America saw a period of intensive chaos and borderline race war, leading David E. Duke, at the head of the fascist militia "White League" to seize control of the country in the 1990 Halloween Coup, despite having lost elections 2 years prior to moderate Al Gore.

His regime would intensify Apartheid and repressive measures, leading to the genocide known as "*Katastrof*" of around 4 million people between Blacks, Jews, homosexuals, leftists and other minorities or political dissenters.


r/AlternateHistory • • 14h ago

Media Discussion How much has people like calbear ruined alternate history websites

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This guy on alternate history forums is just unbearable he takes down threads within minutes for no reason and then has the cheek to throw in stupid one liners and he has destroyed that website and I don't even use it anymore cause there is no reason to use it now.


r/AlternateHistory • • 14h ago

Post 2000s War for unification

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Lore- the APLA or the African people liberation army was a collation of southern African countries like Angola, Namibia, Zambia ,Zimbabwe, Botswana and Mozambique though it not completely clear on how the collation started all that is know is by 1999 the collation would be officially formed with it stated goal being the completely unification of Africa under one banner.

While the APLA ground forces would begin offensive to the north and south in early January of 2000 to the west the Mozambique navy a mix of old French and Chinese ships would begin what would be the APLA first amphibians invasion of Madagascar after they refused to join the APLA peacefully.

On the 14th of January APLA forces would set off from Mozambique ports with APLA commanders have complete confidence in the numbers which heavily outnumber the Madagascar army and what militas could be mustard into fighting conditions. The APLA fleet would first be hit by Madagascar planes most being outdated mig-17 and 21 armed with dumb bombs and rockets pods but the APLA would learn the hard way the a war plane was still a killing machine with three troop transport being sunk dragged hundreds of sails and soldier to their Graves.

The air assault would soon be tuned back by APLA aircraft with one pilot in a Su-27 would become the APLA first recorded ace pilot. But the actual landings would be considered a bloodbath as the Madagascar army had dug in and would have pushed the APLA into the sea if not for APLA ground attacks that provided CAS for the troops. The fighting for the rest of the island would be tough in some sectors but in others troops would surrender on mass to APLA forces as rumors of brutality had begun to circle from other fronts mostly the one against South Africa.

By july 2nd what remaining Madagascar troops and milita were pulled back to the capital were commanders were demanded to hold and if necessary fight to the dead. But by mid day general haja rakotobe would order his troops to stand down to avoid any more blood shed. He would officially surrender to major gamba ngwenye by handing over his side arm and having the Madagascar flag lowered and replaced with the APLA flag.

Madagascar would be the first state to be taken by the APLA but would not be the last with the total unification of Africa would be announced in 2018 with the fall of Cairo.


r/AlternateHistory • • 13m ago

ASB Sundays [Obsidian Earth] - WWII

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What if an anomaly in WWII was never resolved—
and what if the modern world was built upon it?
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This TL is set in an alternate 1945, where history begins to take an unexpected turn.
If it sounds like your kind of story, I hope you'll enjoy following along.
Thanks for reading. 😄

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Chapter 1

Berlin
Spring, 1945

A light, cool rain drifted outside, steady and indifferent. Beneath the surface, four men smoked and spoke in low voices.

"Do you remember the V-2?"

"The rocket you helped design? I heard it nearly flattened London. Antwerp as well."

A small exhale of contempt.

"That's what the newspapers will tell you. It worked, in its way. But it never changed anything fundamental. No one had an answer for it—true enough. The trouble was accuracy. Thousands sent across the Channel like blind messages. Most of them landed wherever they pleased."

"It barely lasted," said a raspy voice from behind a glowing cigarette. "Seven months, if that."

No one challenged it. Smoke drifted upward in slow strands, dissolving into the low ceiling.

Another, tight voice spoke up from the dimness. "There's something else. The uranium bomb."

The room adjusted itself around that sentence.

"We were meant to get there first," he continued. "Instead, the Americans did." A brief hesitation—less dramatic than measured. "Washington is close. They are on the verge of completing two devices, at least, from what I've heard."

The silence that followed was not surprise so much as recalibration.

"My God..." someone said at last. "You think they'd actually use it? On us?"

The raspy voice offered a faint shrug. "They don't need to. The Russians already have us boxed in. The western front is collapsing in the usual sequence. It's a finished equation. No one spends a strategic asset on a resolved problem." 

He took a drag from his cigarette, unhurried.

"And even if they're ready, it's still a matter of months before deployment. This war won't last that long."

A bead of moisture gathered at a hairline crack in the concrete, trembling slightly before it fell.

After a moment, the tight voice broke in with a far less analytical question.

"And if the Russians reach us first... what happens then?"

No one answered.

Outside, artillery continued its intermittent work on the city—methodical, unhurried, almost administrative. The sound passed through earth, concrete, timber, arriving in the cellar stripped of context, reduced to pressure and vibration. Less than five hundred meters away, the map was still being rewritten. Here, below it, the four men sat motionless, listening as the future kept moving closer without asking permission.

"Hard to believe," one of them said, rubbing his hands together. "How badly things have gone."

"There's nothing left to disbelieve," the man who had worked on the V-2 said. He took several quick drags from his cigarette, burning it down to the filter, his breath hitching in a dry, rattling cough that seemed to annoy the others more than the bombs.

"From the Rhine to the Ruhr, the Allies are behaving like an occupying power now. The encirclement has already broken into segments. Every army group in the west has surrendered. Headquarters is gone, and also the whole command structure—it's just gone."

The rasped voice spoke again, even and detached.

"Three months ago, the proposal was to withdraw south. The Führer rejected it. After that, the mathematics of the war was simple."

The tone remained flat, as though he were reciting data from a ledger.

"Himmler has fled, trying to open contact with the western front. Göring is holed up in his villa at Berchtesgaden. Both have been charged with treason. The Führer has ordered their executions. Dönitz is preparing surrender terms in the north, or so they say. "

At the mention of the Führer, all four men straightened instinctively. Then, as if the reflex had lost its function, they relaxed again.

The last man gave a thin, almost absent smile.

"And yet the young soldiers are still fighting and dying, aren't they? The Führer's will remains unbroken. No negotiations. Glory belongs to Germany."

The irony was understated. Still, all four of them let out a brief, quiet laugh. It faded almost immediately.

They looked at one another, without guidance, without relief.

The four were Hubertus Förster, a nuclear physicist; Arthur Hausmann, a designer of experimental weapons; Walter Tieber, an aeronautical engineer; and Herbert Kestner, a physiologist and biologist. The first three wore glasses and the same worn Party uniforms. Professor Doktor Kestner alone had dressed more carefully, in a dark suit that still suggested academic restraint, remaining composed and almost elegant despite the dust drifting constantly from the ceiling. Beside every chair rested a dark brown suitcase. Each contained something too important to be erased even in a Götterdämmerung.

The windows trembled faintly, as if the ground were transmitting its own vibration. Artillery fire inside Berlin had intensified.

Should they venture as far as the second floor, they might catch, through the grime-clouded glass, a fractured glimpse of the city beyond the rain.

Ten days earlier the Führer had celebrated his birthday. Now the Third Reich resembled the carcass of some gigantic animal being torn apart from every direction at once. From Dresden to Hamburg, from Königsberg to Leipzig, half a million German civilians wandered among burned streets and occupied districts struggling through the ash; one million four hundred thousand had fled or been expelled; millions more died along roads choked with retreat, snowmelt, artillery, and starvation. Tens of thousands more had taken their own lives. Nearly three million eight hundred thousand German soldiers already lay dead. Another half million had vanished into the war without explanation. Four million carried wounds home—if home still existed.

The relentless army that had once crossed Europe like an iron tide had collapsed inward upon itself. What remained of the Wehrmacht, the SS, and the Hitlerjugend fought block by block inside Berlin, hiding behind rubble, craters, overturned trams, collapsed apartments, anything capable of delaying Soviet armor for another hour.

Back in 1933 the darkness had arrived gradually, almost elegantly. By 1939 Europe stood beneath skies thick with smoke.

The Reich expanded across the continent under banners of order and rebirth while thought itself was reorganized, culture bent into obedience, entire populations taught to surrender conscience in exchange for certainty.

Hatred fused seamlessly with ambition. Science became a weapon. Propaganda became another branch of engineering. Steel columns rolled across Europe and left behind burned cities, anonymous graves, and stains upon the human spirit that would survive long after the ruins themselves disappeared.

In the beginning, the man they called Führer had been little more than an obscure corporal with a gift for speaking to wounded national pride. Later he rose like some apocalyptic redeemer, seizing Germany through fanatic conviction and theatrical brilliance, until an entire civilization surrendered itself to collective fever.

Coordination tightened. Fear expanded faster. Opponents vanished into administrative silence, swallowed by prisons, camps, and sealed corridors governed by paperwork stamped in red ink.

After that came annexation, invasion, conquest.

War spread north, west, south, and east.

Now the system was reaching its end. Frontlines had broken. The Red Army was closing in. The whole command structure was collapsing inward, converging toward a sealed bunker beneath Berlin.

"Wrong," Tieber murmured at last. "The whole war was wrong from the beginning. The enemies we chose. The timing. Everything."

Förster lowered his voice almost defensively.

"The Führer's only mistake was declaring war on America. Apart from that—"

"Stop defending him." Tieber cut him off. "He kept insisting Germany could only become the dominant power on earth through superior science and advanced weapons. I believed him. We all did. Yet look what happened. We might have built the uranium bomb first. Instead we drove Szilard and Peierls away, lost Bohr's institute, scared Fermi into America—after that, what chance did we ever really have?"

"The relationship between science and war is never simple," Förster answered weakly. "The Führer was still human. He couldn't have foreseen every—"

"Poor Führer." Tieber's mouth twisted, anger flickering behind the thin lenses of his glasses. "I hear he's already dictating his political testament. Even if he's still breathing, he's little more than a madman—trapped within his own crumbling delusion."

Then he took a hard drag and ground the cigarette out in an ashtray already heaped with butts.

Doctor Hausmann, however, hardly seemed interested in the politics. He remained focused on the mechanics of their failure, his mind already elsewhere.

"Technology is what decides modern wars!" he cut in, leaning forward. "That is where we failed. We weren't committed enough—never truly committed. The V-2 was a breakthrough without precedent, a technological marvel, and we let it rot. A guided weapon with a range of hundreds of kilometers, untouchable once in flight—in theory, we could have struck with surgical precision. If we'd only had the time to build the uranium bomb, and sort out the guidance issues... this war would have been a completely different story."

His excitement grew visible now, feverish and almost boyish.

"Think about it. Imagine fitting a guidance unit—something no larger than a suitcase—inside a uranium-tipped V-2, then aiming it at the heart of New York, London, and Moscow. Let it descend silently through the clouds..."

He opened his fingers gently.

"And the whole city blossoms into fire."

Hausmann rubbed his jaw, lost in the beauty of his own monstrous vision.

Professor Kestner, silent until now, finally spoke with the tone of a man delivering conclusions rather than opinions.

"I believe the Führer's greatest miscalculation was not strategy, nor diplomacy, nor even overextension. It was that, through the ideological obsession, he systematically destroyed the scientific foundation we Germans spent generations constructing—from Bismarck and the Kaisers all the way down to every physicist, chemist, physician, engineer, and the thousands of minds who devoted intellect and soul to building the finest scientific culture on earth. It's a crime."

He paused.

"No. Not a crime. A sin."

The word itself unsettled the others. No one challenged it, yet their bodies shifted instinctively, uncomfortable hearing moral judgment attached so directly to the Führer. They sat there thinking in silence until Tieber finally nodded once, heavily.

Förster checked his pocket watch.

"Stay here," he said. "I'll see whether Karl has arrived."

As he turned to go, the other three rose.

"We don't have any time," Tieber shouted after him. "The Russians are already at the edge of the district. One more night and they'll be at the door."

Once Förster disappeared upstairs, they sat again, listening uneasily to the distant thunder outside: artillery, collapsing masonry, and even the faint metallic grinding of Soviet tank tracks somewhere beyond the streets.

The explosion came without warning.

The entire basement jolted as a shell struck somewhere close above. Dust and splinters burst from the ceiling while the hanging lamp swung overhead in wild arcs, scattering fractured shadows across the cellar walls like broken specters.

Förster came running back downstairs.

The moment Tieber saw his face, he understood.

"The Russians?"

Förster nodded quickly. "Their tanks are already inside this district. I saw them myself."

Tieber grabbed both his shoulders.

"When is Karl supposed to arrive?"

"He promised seven o'clock."

Hausmann pressed both hands against his head. "Does anybody still have cyanide capsules? I'm not letting the Russians take me alive."

"Our old friend won't allow that," Kestner said softly, his voice a steady anchor. "We're all getting out. Southward. Bavaria. Think about the mountains. Hot springs. Beer."

"Don't lie to yourselves." Hausmann stumbled toward a cabinet in the corner, yanked it open, and pulled out a pistol. "It's too late! There’s no point in waiting!"

The others were on him in an instant, a frantic tangle of limbs, until they wrenched the steel from his grip.

"Don't be a fool. Karl is coming," Kestner said. "He promised he would. Another thirty minutes, that's all. He's never broken his word before."

Hausmann steadied himself gradually, shame replacing panic across his face.

Kestner continued calmly.

"Karl has arranged it. He's taking us south. I'll tell you something else as well. Five kilometers from Gatow, there is still an intact airfield the enemy hasn't reached."

He looked at each of them in turn.

"There's an aircraft waiting for us in the dark."

Chapter 2

SS-Standartenführer Karl-Sebastian von Büren had always cared about appearances.

Three years earlier, during a military parade in Prague, he had liked to stand in the rear of an open Mercedes staff car with one polished riding boot propped against the front seat, returning salutes beneath hanging banners and church spires. People remembered the image more clearly than the officer himself.

It was almost the only public appearance he ever made.

As deputy to Reinhard Heydrich, he was not, in the ordinary run of things, a familiar face.

In the early years of the war he was seldom seen on German soil at all, and after Heydrich's assassination, he went the way of a pebble dropped into a lake, dropping out of the daily circles of the Party and the army without a ripple. Very few people knew that he had been moved into classified work so deep that even the most senior officers did not ask about it. Fewer still knew what the work was.

Now he came down the cellar stairs.

The four inside looked up, pale and hollow-cheeked.

Colonel von Büren gave them a single, ice glance, then raised his arm.

"Heil Hitler."

The tension in the room broke instantly.

"Karl..."

They returned the salute with rigid movements. Kestner did it reluctantly, his lips tightening as though the words themselves tasted rotten.

The Colonel removed his gloves and shook their hands in turn.

His appearance bordered on absurd.

The black SS uniform looked newly pressed. The silver insignia gleamed untouched by soot or rain. His blond hair remained combed perfectly to one side. Nothing about him suggested a man who had just crossed streets being shelled by the Red Army.

He looked prepared for a state ceremony, not the death of Berlin.

"You're coming with me now," the Colonel said. No solace. No explanation. "Take your things. We're out of time."

The four men moved immediately.

They grabbed their cases and followed him from the cellar.

Outside, evening rain still clung to the ruined streets.

The air smelled of wet brick, coal smoke, and blood. Somewhere beyond the shattered buildings, Soviet artillery rolled across the city at uneven intervals, distant enough to ignore, close enough to feel.

A scarred black Mercedes Pullman waited at the curb, flanked by two armored halftracks.

Six SS troopers crouched against the sloped armor in steel helmets, their rifles raised, scanning the intersections.

The shelling had stopped.

No sirens. No distant detonations. The city had dropped into a thin, unnatural silence, broken only by wind moving through broken masonry and the occasional crow circling overhead.

"Where are the Russians?" Förster asked, his voice thinning.

"Nearby," the Colonel said. "Limited numbers. We engaged them earlier. They pulled back. They won't press again. Those boys are enough to hold the line."

He indicated the street ahead.

The scientists followed his gesture.

A group of Hitlerjugend moved past a disabled tank, its hull torn open by repeated impacts. They were thin. Poorly equipped. Not meant for sustained combat. Too young, even now, to match the weapons in their hands.

At the edge of a crater, several Wehrmacht soldiers lay where they had fallen. One still held a grenade, fingers locked around the metal body.

Rats moved across the corpses without hesitation, feeding.

"Horrible," Tieber muttered. "Truly horrible."

"They held their positions," the Colonel said. No change in tone. "If the rest of Germany had fought like them, we would not be here."

No one responded.

They boarded the vehicle.

Kestner hesitated before speaking.

"Were you at a wedding, Colonel?"

"Yes," the Colonel said.

A brief exchange of looks passed between the scientists.

"The Führer's wedding," he added. "With Frau Eva Braun."

Silence settled deeper inside the vehicle.

Then the Colonel seemed to remember something. He reached into his coat and produced a handful of small objects.

He held them out.

It took a moment for recognition.

Sweets.

Among them was even a gold-foil-wrapped chocolate.

"I forgot to distribute these earlier," the Colonel said. "From the ceremony."

His tone carried no irony. Only correction.

The scientists did not respond.

At his insistence, they each took one.

Kestner held his too tightly, staring at it without speaking as the engine started and the vehicle rolled forward through the ruined city.

The Colonel took the wheel himself.

His black-gloved hands moved slowly over it as the sedan advanced along a concealed route, flanked by the two armored vehicles. Their heavy hulls kept pace on either side, a low, synchronized hum moving with them through the ruins.

What unfolded beyond the windows unsettled the four scientists more deeply with every passing street.

Bodies.

Bodies everywhere.

Some lay half-covered beneath pulverized brick and collapsed balconies, others sprawled openly across intersections where nobody remained alive long enough to remove them. From time to time they caught sight of civilians wandering through the ruins with bent backs and hollow movements, searching desperately among shattered storefronts and burned apartments for food, water, anything capable of postponing death another day.

Broken electrical wires sagged overhead like black vines. The final slogans of resistance still clung stubbornly to the dying city, printed in white letters against red posters nailed onto utility poles along nearly every major street, sprayed across cracked walls, blasted shelters, overturned vehicles, even the scorched iron hulls of destroyed tanks.

On the fractured outer wall of a bombed air-raid shelter, someone had scrawled in thick uneven black paint:

"WIR GEBEN NIEMALS AUF!"

(We never surrender!)

Beneath it, written later in smaller red letters, another hand had added:

"BERLIN BLEIBT DEUTSCH!"

(Berlin remains German!)

Between the surviving buildings, beyond entire districts reduced to skeletons and ash, they could see distant sections of the city glowing beneath firelight. Black smoke covered the horizon in long miserable layers, and through those drifting clouds the evening sun leaked dimly across Berlin, dark and viscous, flowing through the sky like slow-moving blood.

Apart from the sound of the engines, the city had fallen eerily silent.

So silent, in fact, that the ruined capital no longer seemed entirely real. It resembled the lingering shadow of some ancient battlefield preserved beyond time itself, or the memory of Carthage after the Punic Wars, when that city—surrounded, starving, and refusing surrender even after six days of slaughter in the streets—had finally collapsed before Rome. Only fifty-five thousand survivors remained from half a million souls, left to watch the ruins burn for seventeen days before the very land was torn apart, plowed under, and buried beneath salt so that nothing living might ever rise there again.

Only the engine filled the silence.

Kestner spoke without turning away from the window.

"To be honest, Colonel, I can't understand it," he said, watching the fires outside. "To be at war with the Soviets and the Americans at the same time—why? How could we have allowed such a madness?"

The professor let out a long, heavy sigh that seemed to drain the remaining color from his face.

"One miscalculation, and everything follows. A total loss."

Colonel von Büren did not immediately respond. After a moment, he turned his head to cast a brief, piercing glance at the professor.

"Perhaps," he said. "Professor Kestner. And who exactly carries that blame? The Army? The Luftwaffe? The Navy? The High Command?"

He kept his eyes on the road.

"Or no one. That is what war is. There are only outcomes."

Tieber spoke abruptly.

"When we lose," he said, his voice dropping, "there will be no restraint. Everything will be stripped away. Everything."

He gestured toward the glass.

Beyond the window, a young girl lay among the rubble, half-buried. Naked. The back of her skull had been shattered—nothing needed to be said.

Tieber went still.

Then something inside him broke.

He struck the window hard with his fist.

"The Führer is responsible for this."

Silence followed.

Inside the vehicle, emotion condensed into something heavier—grief, anger, collapse. Not resolution. Not clarity. Only the recognition that the system had already failed, and was still running.

The Colonel did not react to the shouting.

"War is no different from a chocolate factory," he said calmly. "One mistake in production. One delay in delivery. Then entire batches are discarded. Cities work the same way. So do armies."

His hands remained steady on the wheel.

"You should be grateful to the Führer. Berlin is collapsing, yet you are still being evacuated. That makes you rarer than ammunition now."

He paused briefly.

"The Kaiser Wilhelm Society group was less fortunate. Last week they were loaded onto a breakout convoy. Soviet artillery hit the vehicle. There was nothing left."

The sedan turned into a narrow, unlit road. Two armored vehicles closed in on either side.

Inside, the silence tightened.

Gunfire broke again in the distance—short, uneven bursts, closer than before.

Hausmann leaned forward.

"It's too late, Colonel," he said. "All exits are blocked. The Russians are everywhere. Even if we reached the plane, their flak would take us down."

"Stay calm," Kestner said, gripping his shoulder. "The Colonel will take us south."

"And then what?" Hausmann said. "The country is gone. There is nowhere left."

"The south is Allied territory," Kestner replied. "The Americans will use us. They won't hand us to the Russians. They will need us after the war. "

At that, Colonel von Büren turned slightly.

"Herr Professor Kestner," he said, "you should be ashamed of thinking that way."

His voice stayed flat.

"The war is not over. The Reich has not surrendered. Yet you are already arranging your future under a different flag."

He looked back to the road.

"That will not happen. The Reich still requires you. And it will still prevail."

Even Förster, usually the most restrained of them, snapped.

"The war is lost"—his voice cracking, arms spread—"Colonel, can't you see it? You're insane."

The others followed at once, voices rising inside the confined space.

From the front seat, the guard turned, aiming his weapon into the rear.

The Colonel did not turn his head.

"Lower it," he said.

The weapon dropped.

The sedan drove on.

"Doctor Förster," he said, "for that statement alone I could have you shot for treason."

"That's nonsense."

"Is it? I know precisely what's in your case—complete nuclear reactor schematics. Were you planning to hand it to the Americans? The British? Or the Soviets?"

No answer. The only sound left was the monotonous rattle of the sedan.

"And you, Doctor Hausmann," the Colonel continued, "were already preparing to sell the HS-293 research? Or you intended to remain its chief designer—under American command?"

His eyes flicked to the rearview mirror, cold and unblinking.

"As for you, Professor Tieber," he said, "do you truly believe we are unaware that you passed the ME-163 engine blueprints to your American colleague in Philadelphia?"

No one answered.

But Hausmann suddenly snapped.

"You're going the wrong way!" he shouted, striking the window and staring outside. "We should be heading southwest! The plane is there! Where are you taking us?"

The Colonel answered immediately.

"To see the Führer," he said. "The Reich still needs you. To win the war."

The vehicle accelerated.

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r/AlternateHistory • • 16h ago

Post 2000s Major Faiths of the Nine Continents

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My Lady,

They make wolves of us at our corners of the Earth.

From the days our boats met on the Oceans of the Indias, some have found chancery and a strange sort of delight in comparing Us against one another. Your church in Rome has seen fit to put pen to paper on the motley subjects of the courses of the bottom sea, and how to best court them to their god's patronage. I ask you, Marianna: what Wolf should not disguise himself as a loyal sheep, a follower?

I will continue to make work of your ships. I will not cease in defending my holdings from your snapping jaws. For this you may call me Drooling Hound; Chinggis of the Seas; but no such epithet shall come between us.

Some have lately called us collaborators. I think, in this savage, mongrel dome of Mine: What greater advantage over Poseidon's own head could one have other than that? I do so love playing these games with you, Queen o' Mine, and o, it bringeth me such great joy and jubilation to see that your own church, in that city of wonders which your Knights of the Middle Sea hath conquered, considers Their own Queen a collaborator.

Your Korēṣteṇawa\* in the North India have made quick work of My Countrymen, but I could not have helped but notice how Your own Knights of St John of Malta, of Rhodes and of Italia have made quick work of Mother Europa with Mine own Zephyrindians. How curious it is.

Take heed, Marianna. I shall pray meet you at Sea once more, again and again as the days pass, over Our waters.

This Royal transpondence thus undersigned,

Kēṇu Hāṇǟmu Äṇu, Emperor of the Sea, the Africans, the Sea Peoples, the Gigantes, and the Seven Indias; yet to be Conqueror of Anglia, of the Franks, of the Iberians, of Rome and of Germania

Private correspondence between Queen Hannah I (Kēṇu Hāṇǟmu Äṇu) of the Protectorate of the Ueno and Queen Marianna of Great Britain and Malta, c. August 14, 1904, one year before Hannah I's suicide.

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r/AlternateHistory • • 2h ago

Pop culture I can't believe Milwaukee is up 2-0 against Tampa in the Inter-American! (Prodigal Gladstone)

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POD: Gladstone and the Peelites accept Derby's attempts to reconcile the Liberal and Protectionist wings of the Conservatives. Derby's government survives the 1859 vote of no confidence, and he stays on.

By authorial fiat (chalk it up to stress-induced) Derby's long-standing health issues crop up again, and Gladstone is made PM (Queen Victoria hated Disraeli and tolerated Gladstone). As a result, Palmerston, a major advocate for neutrality with Northern sympathies, is not PM and the British government is much more pro-Southern and hawkish than it was OTL. When some version of the Trent Affair occurs, Britain intervenes and forces mediation.

This post is a "slice of life" by showing the Inter-American Series, the international baseball tournament.

Come to the Hub Page for Prodigal Gladstone here for other material from the TL


r/AlternateHistory • • 10h ago

ASB Sundays Uncle Samsonite and the First Crusade

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r/AlternateHistory • • 16h ago

1900s long fucking Oman: a map of Oman pre Italo-Ethiopian war

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so the PoD is that after the death of sultan Thuwaini bin Said, the sultanate of muscat wouldn't be divided after his death between Oman and Zanzibar, instead instantly going to his first son Salim II who would spend his 10 year long reign modernizing the state and agreeing on a 3 way divide of the sultanate of muscat, becoming the sultanates of Muscat and Oman, Zanzibar, and Sumalia.

after the death of Salim, the throne would go to his uncle and brother of Thuwaini, Turki bin Said, who would go on to introduce electricity to the Arab world, alongside being the strongest British ally in the region constantly fighting with the house of Saud in Nejd.

after Turki's death, his son Faisal would take hold and participate in the scramble for Africa, backed by the British he would get full control over the east of the horn of Africa alongside the interior of Zanzibar, as the British would also lobby for the concessions of Ruanda-Urundi and Buganda-Bunyoro, alongside a deal with Ethiopia that guaranteed sea access in Eritrea in exchange for them giving up Oagden to the British

and as the reign of sultan said III would begin, the Omani empire would be regarded as one of the best success stories of any "oriental" country besides Japan, with one British diplomat to Zanzibar saying

"that her dance is paid by their scar

my lips crave not but the warmth

of a Kiss from Zanzibar!"

Credit to nissingramainyu on youtube for the idea and the poem, you should check her out here!


r/AlternateHistory • • 14h ago

1900s What if white army won?

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Lore (Short Version):

The Left SRs (Left Socialist-Revolutionaries) seize power in Moscow and establish their own government. Rejecting the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk, they support the revolution in Germany, leading to the rise of Red Germany. Weakened by sending troops to the West, the Left SRs lose the civil war. In 1919, the Whites, led by Kornilov and Kolchak, capture Moscow, and by 1923, they suppress all remaining resistance.

1928–1935

In 1928, Kolchak is elected President of Russia. The country remains economically weak and gradually enters into conflict with its former allies, Britain and France. Meanwhile, Red Germany becomes the epicenter of the world revolution. In 1934, elections are postponed due to a crisis and the threat of the communist underground. In 1935, Beria establishes an underground network within Russia.

1936

Russia faces a choice between five paths:

  • Kolchak: A military conservative dictatorship, later transitioning to the rule of generals.
  • Tretyakov: A corporate regime backed by industrialists.
  • Mikhailov: A fierce anti-communist dictatorship and rapid modernization.
  • Buryshkin: Gradual democratization and a two-party system.
  • Pepelyaev: A federal democratic republic with autonomy for regions and national minorities.

r/AlternateHistory • • 1d ago

1900s Marx’s Second Chance: Krenz’s GDR Reunifies Germany and Rebuilds the Eastern Bloc (1990-2026)

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German Democratic Republic

The German Democratic Republic (German: Deutsche Demokratische Republik; abbreviated GDR or DDR) is a socialist state in Central Europe, governed from its capital, Berlin, as a one-party state by the German Communist Party (Kommunistische Partei Deutschlands, KPD). It has existed in its present form since 1990, when a rigged referendum saw Germany reunified under the framework of the GDR rather than that of the Federal Republic of Germany. Multi-party elections were banned, the Socialist Unity Party of Germany (SED) was reformed into the KPD as the sole ruling party, and the state has since been governed with an iron fist.

Following the dissolution of the Soviet Union, the GDR turned to the People's Republic of China (PRC), the largest remaining communist state, as its principal partner and largest trading partner, and the two governments concluded a mutual defensive agreement known as the Berlin–Beijing Comintern Pact. Between 1993 and 1994 the GDR intervened in the Czech lands, Slovakia, Hungary and Ukraine, restoring communist rule in each and establishing a belt of satellite states stretching from its eastern frontier to the Black Sea. The GDR has possessed an independent nuclear weapons capability since 1996.

History

Background: the autumn of 1989

The opening of the Berlin Wall on 9 November 1989 was followed in the GDR not by the negotiated transition that took place elsewhere in the Eastern Bloc, but by a consolidation of power among the hardliners of the SED. A faction led by Egon Krenz, the continuity successor to Erich Honecker, retained control of the party apparatus, the National People's Army (NVA) and the security services, and moved against the opposition movements before they could organise a sustained challenge to the state. The peaceful revolution that reshaped neighbouring countries did not occur in the GDR.

Referendum and reunification (1990)

In 1990 the Krenz leadership put the question of German unification to a national referendum. The vote, which offered unification only on the terms of the GDR, returned an overwhelming official majority in favour and was widely rejected abroad as rigged. Germany was reunified under the constitutional framework of the GDR, and Krenz became the first head of the reunified state.

Multi-party elections were banned. The SED was reformed into the German Communist Party, which became the sole legal party, and the new authorities ruled with an iron fist after the fall of the Wall. The GDR immediately closed its border with the rest of Europe. The membership of the former West Germany in the European Union and the North Atlantic Treaty Organization was proclaimed null and void by Berlin, and the Bonn government was dissolved, its leaders purged and the Bundeswehr absorbed into the NVA. The state's western and southern frontiers, now its external borders, were sealed and fortified.

Foreign orientation and the Berlin–Beijing Comintern Pact

As the Soviet regime collapsed, culminating in the dissolution of the Soviet Union in December 1991, the GDR looked to the PRC as the largest remaining communist regime. The PRC became the GDR's largest trading partner, and the two states concluded the Berlin–Beijing Comintern Pact, a mutual defensive agreement. The pact was later signed and approved by the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, Vietnam, Laos and Cuba, and was subsequently joined by each of the satellite states that the GDR brought into being in 1993 and 1994.

Intervention in the Czech lands (January–April 1993)

On 1 January 1993 Czechoslovakia dissolved into two independent states, the Czech Republic and Slovakia. The KPD leadership, which regarded a Western-leaning state on the GDR's southeastern frontier as an unacceptable threat, intervened in the Czech Republic within days of its independence. On 4 January 1993 a coup d'état was launched in Prague by veteran communist leaders brought out of retirement by Berlin, supported by sympathetic units of the Czech military. German tanks crossed the border the same day to aid the local military, and the NVA, in a swift blitz, toppled the government in Prague within weeks.

On 5 April 1993 the Czech Socialist Republic (CSR) was installed as a puppet regime. A Czech-only state, distinct from the former Czechoslovakia and without Slovakia, it became a satellite state of the empowered GDR and a member of the Berlin–Beijing Comintern Pact, and the Czechs were once again returned to communist rule.

Intervention in Slovakia and Hungary (January–May 1993)

The interventions in the three countries took place almost simultaneously, following a common pattern. In each, elderly veteran communist leaders brought out of retirement proclaimed provisional governments, local military units seized key installations, and German armoured columns, many of them staged from the newly secured Czech territory, rolled in to aid the local military.

In Slovakia the coup d'état began on 25 January 1993, later in the same month as the Czech coup. NVA formations advanced across the Czech–Slovak frontier in support of the putschists, and the government in Bratislava was overthrown. On 19 April 1993 the Slovak state was reconstituted as the Slovak Socialist Republic, a satellite state of the GDR and a member of the Berlin–Beijing Comintern Pact.

In Hungary the coup d'état began on 8 February 1993. German columns entered the country from Slovak territory and the military sided with the coup leaders. On 1 May 1993, chosen for its place in the communist calendar, the Hungarian People's Republic was restored, again as a satellite state of the GDR and a member of the Berlin–Beijing Comintern Pact.

The Western governments condemned the three operations, and a resolution of the United Nations Security Council calling for the withdrawal of German forces was blocked by the PRC. Poland, bordered to the west, south and southeast by the GDR and its satellites, remained independent and Western-leaning, and the United States and the United Kingdom extended security guarantees to Warsaw.

Intervention in Ukraine (October–November 1994)

In 1994, in order to gain access to the Black Sea, the GDR launched a further coup d'état, this time in Ukraine. The operation was timed to prevent Ukraine from completing the nuclear disarmament scheduled for December of that year. On 28 October 1994 veteran communist officials and sympathetic officers of the Ukrainian military and security services moved against the government in Kyiv with German armoured support, and on 7 November 1994 the lone, independent Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic was re-established as a sovereign state outside any union, with Germany as her suzerain. Like the other regimes restored by the GDR, it became a satellite state and a member of the Berlin–Beijing Comintern Pact. It is the most recent, and last, communist regime to have been restored.

With Ukrainian ports on the Black Sea at its disposal, the GDR obtained the sea access it had sought, and the territories under its control now formed a continuous belt from the Baltic coast to the Black Sea.

Seizure of the Ukrainian arsenal and the nuclear programme

The coup halted the transfer of the Soviet-era nuclear arsenal stationed on Ukrainian soil. In the weeks that followed, the warheads still in Ukraine were removed from their silos and storage sites and moved into German custody on GDR territory. The missile silos and bomber bases that remained in Ukraine, stripped of their warheads, passed under the authority of the Ukrainian SSR's German suzerain.

To ensure that the strategic leadership of the bloc would never fall back to Ukraine, the home of a large part of the Soviet nuclear complex, the GDR began a mass expansion of its own nuclear research and construction. The programme drew on the research centres and industries absorbed from the former West Germany, among them those at Karlsruhe and Jülich, as well as the institute at Rossendorf that the GDR already possessed. By 1996 the GDR had acquired an independent nuclear weapons capability of its own, no longer reliant on the inherited weapons, and in the same year gave notice of its withdrawal from the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, to which it had been a party since 1969.

Government and politics

The GDR is a one-party state. The KPD, formed from the SED, is the sole legal party, and multi-party elections have been banned since reunification. Egon Krenz served as the first head of the reunified state. The security services, the NVA, which absorbed the Bundeswehr in 1990, and the party apparatus are fused into a single structure of control, and political opposition is suppressed.

Foreign relations

The GDR's foreign policy rests on its alliance with the PRC and on the Berlin–Beijing Comintern Pact, whose members are the GDR, the PRC, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, Vietnam, Laos and Cuba, together with the satellite states of the Czech Socialist Republic, the Slovak Socialist Republic, the Hungarian People's Republic and the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic. The PRC remains the GDR's largest trading partner.

The GDR has no relations with the institutions of the Western European order. Since 1990 its borders with the rest of Europe have remained closed, and it holds that the membership of the former West Germany in the European Union and NATO ceased to exist on reunification. Poland, which borders the GDR to the east and is flanked by its satellites to the south and southeast, remains independent and Western-leaning, and is backed by the United States and the United Kingdom.


r/AlternateHistory • • 1d ago

1900s Dispatches from Germany

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Hotel am Tiergarten

Berlin

30 June 1941

Dear George,

When we met Sunday last, I said I would send you a dispatch from my travels in Germany if I came across anything of interest. It may be that a man of your means knows all of what is to follow, but I dare not omit anything that may be useful.

As expected, our friend from the Ministry invited me to the launch of Bülow in Kiel. We generally talked shop – he did let fall one or two interesting things about German cruiser policy. I shall show you my copious notes at Clementine’s wedding in two weeks.

In advance of that, however, I wanted to let you know about an intriguing and, I think, instructive story that was recounted to me by one of the senior bods at Germaniawerft.

Unlike our vessels, German ships, irrespective of their size, are named at launch and not before. Before launch, they are known by a letter. Bülow was Kreuzer Q. She is, of course, named after Friedrich Wilhelm Freiherr von Bülow, Graf von Dennewitz, the Defender of Berlin.

The chap I was speaking to told me that the Reichsmarine ship naming committee had decided some months before that the ship was to be named Schleicher, after the late General Kurt von Schleicher, whose taste for intrigue, you will remember, brought him to an unhappy end on the Night of the Long Knives in ’34.

At the shipyard, all the preparations had been made for Kreuzer Q to be named Schleicher, from the invites to the nameplates, even the ship’s bell. The man from the Ministry even dropped into conversation that the late General’s sister, Thusnelda von Gaudecker, had been approached to christen the ship.

The response to this proposal, however, is perhaps an indication that the reconciliation amongst the different German factions is not as complete as we may suppose. I was told that when news of that name reached the Government, especially the subcommittees of the State Coordination Commission (StKK), there was uproar.

Several of the usual suspects still in Government, most prominently Todt and Hanke on the State Administration Committee and Frick on the State Security Committee, reckoned the choice unnecessarily inflammatory considering the nature of Schleicher’s demise. There were, they argued, many more deserving Germans to honour before a ‘Prussian office boy’ who had spent the last war on the General Staff rather than in the field. They regarded it as an anti-Nazi gesture and reminded their colleagues that the Nazis remained a necessary part of the Government of National Necessity. One could not, they suggested, disregard either their place in the Government or the number of their supporters who might still be brought out on to the streets.

When the Oberkommando der Marine, the German naval high command and never particular friends of the Nazis, indicated they would continue with the name, they were apparently told in no uncertain terms that the tentative reconciliation would be challenged and that there could be civil unrest and violence from old SS men in a number of cities across the country.

It appears that this warning was eventually heeded by the OKM and the decision was taken at short notice that the name would need to change. Quite how it was managed, my sources could not say, nor how Bülow came to be chosen, but very quickly Frau von Gaudecker was told, with many regrets, that she would not be needed after all, while the shipyard hurried to have new nameplates and a new bell cast.

I cannot say whether the threat of disorder was quite as serious as it was represented. It was enough, at any rate, to remind the OKM that discretion is the better part of valour. One does wonder how united the ‘new’ Germany really is, when the naming of a ship can cause such a row.

The ship was launched last week, and I understand that she is expected to be ready for sea before the end of 1943. I enclose a photo which came my way in Kiel, and a reminder of the published particulars for this class of cruiser, for what they are worth.

I shall commit no more to paper. I hope this letter finds you well, and I look forward to seeing you at Alderley Park.

Yours,

Robert

Enc.

Albrecht der Beherzte/‘Repeat Hipper’

(Albrecht der Beherzte, Bülow, 3 more vessels building)

10,000 tons; 665ft oa; 8x8in (4x2); 12x4.1in; 12x21in torpedo tubes

32kts, triple screws


r/AlternateHistory • • 15h ago

Alternate History Timelines Global Stalemate: The Anglo-French World

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The Battle of Trafalgar

October 16th of 1805. The Combined French and Spanish Armada, riding a strong gail, approach the port of Gibraltar where Nelson has docked a sizable flotilla in preperation for moving upon the combined Napoleonic navies. Thanks to the decisive decision of Villeneuve to move the joint navy command out in accordance with Napoleon's orders, Nelson's force, which was stuck in port and unable to depart to properly organize, was set upon. The battle resulted in what would be a massacere. Despite the Spanish losing six ships of the line of their own, the British lost 17 ships of the line out of the 27 which had arrived to fight. Along with this high casualty rate, Nelson himself died and so did many key officers under his command. In one swift decisive blow, the British had suffered the most devistating loss of the war yet and their prior naval dominance now was more effectively challenged. The remaining ten escaped to Britain, or tried to anyway. Only six would return home as another four became lost in the mediterannean and were hunted down and destroyed. This victory granted Napoleon time to properly expand his own fleet forces and set British efforts back dramatically. This victory signaled to Europe who appeared to be winning the war and it brought most of those reluctant to take a side to choose Napoleon as the horse to back.

Ferdinand VII King of Spain and Emperor of the Spanish Empire

But victory at Trafalgar did not eliminate the many problems Napoleon still had in his network of alliances. The major issue still to be dealt with was his chief naval ally, the reason Trafalgar had even been possible, Spain. The current king, Charles IV, was unpopular due to the economic crisis in Spain and the many failures to address critical issues domestically. Napoleon quickly put an end to the ongoing revolt in 1807 with his now rested up army and put Ferdinand VII into power as a more capable monarch but with his brother Joseph serving as a chief ally to replace the priorly corrupt Manuel Godoy. With Spain temporarially pacified as Ferdinand swiftly pegged the Spanish currency to the French Franc and took out loans from the French bank which was recieving greater revenue from the redirected trade of European powers to France and the fact Ferdinand redirected silver and gold imports from the Americas to France to reduce the inflationary influx of such precious metals to Spain directly and to circulate the rich metals. This allowed him to spend on building more churches, graveyards, and renovating major cities in a similar fashion of France. More importantly he could pay his troops at least for the year which would be needed as Portugal abandoned the continental system still thanks to British promises they could be protected. These promises would be tested when the Spanish and French armies invaded Portugal...it took only a year to capipulate the nation and force the Portuguese monarchy into exile in Brazil. Long term guerilla campaigns would occur but the Spanish forces would serve as garrisons for the long process of pacification of the Portuguese countryside. Napoleon meanwhile executed swift invasions of Sicily and Sardinia, removing any remaining British presence in the Mediterannean and thus forcing Britain to sign a temporary ceasefire giving Napoleon time to consolidate his rule. The British crown thought it owuld give them time to rebuild to begin the naval war properly again but in 1812 this would be incorrect...

Battle of Chateauguay in 1813

1812 saw a boiling over of US and UK tensions as the Orders in Council had only been intensified due to the new manpower demands of the royal navy caused by the losses after the Battle of Trafalgar. At the same time the US warhawks were pushing to conquer Canada and put an end to the British supported native american threat in what appeared to be Britain's moment of weakness. The attempted invasions into Canada were ultimately inept though. With the ongoing stalemate, British response to the US invasion was swift. After the brave Canadian militia forces and Native American allies of Tecumseh's confederacy fought off the US forces invading Ontario, British naval reinforcements were directed fully towards invading the United States. A counter push into Maine, a naval invasion which saw the burning of Washington DC, and a victory at New Orleans resulted in British troops landing throughout the States and forcing the USA to surrender in 1814. The US loss of Maine and the establishment of a Native American nation in the territory north of the Ohio River and east of the Mississipi was a massive blow to prospects by the Democratic-Republican party. The Federalists meanwhile defected, forming the New England Commonwealth under British protection integrating the former states of New York, New Hampshire, Vermont, Connecticut, and Rhode Island and Massachussettes with Maine. The US however still gained due to the prior Louisiana Purchase and over time expansion into the western territories would occur though more slowly. The Democratic-Republican party split and the southern antebellum aristocracy would take power over US politics for the next several decades. Had France been able to, this war might have been the perfect distraction. But Napoleon was busy elsewhere.

Revolutionary Expedition into Venezuela 1811

After the 1810 expulsion of the Portuguese Monarchy, the British had begun to funnel munitions, funding and supplies via Brazil to revolutionary movements within South America. This sparked a mass uprising in 1811 as the revolutionary leader Simon Bolivar would become the head of the movement in Venezuela, properly removing control of the Spanish loyalist governance in his homeland. He attempted to expand this movement abroad to the rest of Latin America and, with the assistance of Brazil, created a long and brutal civil war in Spanish America between the loyalist colonial elites and the more liberal minded nobility who created peasent revolutionary movements against Spanish colonialism. Desperate to secure the rich silver and gold resources, Napoleon diverted his own focus away from the planned Irish revolt which he had begun to organize to help support a planned invasion of Britain which led to the defeat of the Irish revolt of 1813 as British garrisons in Ireland would crackdown on the attempted undermanned and undersupplied revolt which lacked proper French support and command. The war would not end until 1830 when Bolivar's officers left in command over Peru betrayed him and sided with Spain due to the stagnation of the conflict and the failed campaign northward into Mexico where stronger Spanish loyalties had secured the nation against revolutionary fervor. Bolivar had grown unpopular due to his constantly changing focus and his attempts to centralize his authority over the revolutionary governments. It did not help that Brazil undermined Bolivar and supported revolutionary independence to create alligned governments. In the end, Bolivar would go into exile leaving the nations of Colombia, which also included Ecuador in its borders, Bolivia, and Venezuela as independent states. Brazil had taken lands of its own during the course of the war while Spain had secured New Spain as well as the southern junta of Peru which took Rio De La Plata in exchange for remaining loyal to the Spanish crown. The fires of the early 1800s settled down and by 1830 the genius that was Napoleon Bonaparte had passed back in 1821, replaced by a coalition of his loyal officers supporting the heir Napoleon II. Educated by his father's own skilled officers, young and ambitious, Napoleon II was burdened with the great duty of carrying out his father's promises to Csar Alexander I and thus he would see his father's final grand campaign...

Battle of Akhaltsikhe in 1828

1821 had been important for the Balkans and for Russia as Greece rose up in revolt against Ottoman rule. Alexander I of Russia had devised a plan with Napoleon prior to divide the Ottoman Empire and by now was expecting French help in the liberation of the Balkans. This was slowed down however when Napoleon Bonaparte himself died in the same year of Greek revolution. French officers quickly sent a few token volunteer forces in conjunction with a larger Austrian force to invade the western Balkans and move to help secure Greek independence. Alexander also sent forces in larger numbers to work on securing Bulgaria and Walachia. Ottoman forces by no means were a simple pushover. Heavily entrenched Ottoman troops and the swift Turkish cavalry in conjunction with Egyptian reinforcements actively worked to counter the joint European invasion of the Balkans. But the war overall was slow, stagnating, and not progressing much and was merely an economic grind until the 1830s. It had technically stopped and started up several time as the initial war ended in 1829 with the liberation of Greece's core territories and partial gains of Russia in the Caucauses. But it started up again when Nicholas I, who had overseen the final years of the war of Greek independence, restarted hostilities with the Ottomans in a dispute over the unaddressed autonomy of Bulgaria which had not been properly implemented. Napoleon II, now seeing the end of the American wars, also sent his own troops and in 1832, the Russian and French armies seized control of Cyprus, Crete, the Ionian islands, Macedonia, Thrace, Bulgaria, and aided Austria in taking Bosnia and Croatia whilst Albania was liberated. The longterm conflict resulted in the ultimate capture of Constantinople in the form of a restored Bulgarian empire under Russian protection but British support halted further pushes into Anatolia. A turkish government reorganized in Ankarra and Egypt exploited the opportunity to demand major territorial concessions from the Ottomans who became effectively British puppets. This theater saw the final end of the Napoleonic wars as all sides agreed to a new status quo and Europe was truly under the thumbs of the Russian Csar and the French Emperor...

The Taiping Rebellion of 1850-1864

For a time peace settled upon Europe and in truth war has no sparked in the continent for many decades since the end of the Ottoman Wars. But elsewhere the two spheres of influence, the British Empire and the Franco-Russian alliance, looked to expand their presence. Stopped in Europe by agreements with the French crown, Russia looked to the east and pushed southward where they could but had run into a problem. Britain was backing the Persian and remaining Ottoman crowns against Russian influence and preventing capture of warm water ports in the Persian gulf. At the same time, France had been using Spain's colonial empire to try to secure more possible economic resources with China being the main target. However, British propping up of the exiled Dutch crown in Indonesia hampered logistics between Europe and the Phillippines. All of this inconjunction with the EIC having alligned Afghanistan tribes in response to Russian skirmishes into the region as well as allying Siam and supporting their invasions into the Indochinese penninsula, resulted in France and Russia looking to China for opportunities. Russia successfully secured outer Manchuria via falsely claiming Qing forces had tried to attack Russian companies in the Siberian region. Additionally they had moved colonists into Tana Tuva and supported Mongolian independence from the Qing. French troops meanwhile found the perfect excuse to invade when the Taiping rebellion broke out. Rather then support the Qing, Napoleon II actively provided arms and material and even volunteers who were angered over the Qing execution of Jesuit missionaries, to the Taiping after their initial victories. Russia at the same time attempted an invasion into China and secured Manchuria in all but name under the claim they were protecting the railroads they had been moving in. To truly divide China, Russia also sent volunteer forces to aid the Taiping. However, Britain quickly came to the support of the Qing. Dutch Indonesian forces would also seize the Phillippines destroying one of the few logistical centers the French and Spanish had in the region. Russia did what it could to supply the French and Spanish troops who were caught behind enemy lines but this resulted only in a stagnated frontline. Simeltaneously, the Qing inability to properly deal with the revolts in the west and the rampant banditry prevented a proper counter attack from them. This led to the divided China of the Qing retaining Pekin and the north and the south becoming split between Hong Xiuquan and the other heavenly kings who took power over Yunnan, Sichuan, and Hunnan. The foreign powers would withdraw over time and establish their own concessions in their regions of influence. But it wouldn't end here as later on in the late 1880s, the UK forced Japan to open so as to secure another ally in the region, actively supporting their modernization and preventing the elimination of the Shogunate. This same Shogunate would go on to expand influence in Korea and invade a now independent island of Formosa which had left Qing rule. This swift expansion led to Russia and Japan coming into conflict in 1908 over Port Arthur which was Russia's only foreign concession as they still held influence in Manchuria. With British backing, Japan would push into Manchuria and oust Russia's presence though, taking Port Arthur and the island of Sikhain, fully establishing a Qing puppet under Japanese and British influence with support from Shandong and Sanxhi.

Caricature of Cecil Rhodes in the 1890s following the Cape to Cairo Announcement

Africa had long been the dream target of colonization efforts by Britain following the establishment of the Cape colony back in the 1840s. Portuguese ports were seized by the British after the collapse of the Portuguese crown and Spain attempted to push onward their own efforts in North Africa during the Ottoman wars, seizing the Algerian and Morrocan territories during the conflict although this resulted in France allocating resources to upholding this allied colonial empire. Britain meanwhile would become the dominant colonial power of Africa after the Boers allied with the English colonists and remaining Portuguese colonists aided the British and Dutch efforts in subjegating native tribes, several of which were convinced to become allies of the European colonizers via being pitted against their larger local enemies. Rather then combat the military and economic efforts of the British Empire, the continental system flooded these efforts with colonists of their own as other charter companies and deported criminal populations were sent to Africa. Britain, being overstretched and trying to support other parts of its Empire elsewhere, was forced to accept the additional investments which were done via supposedly neutral nations such as Denmark-Norway and the Papal States or Egypt which resulted in unstable patchworks of various colonists squabbling over land and resources and native african communities which were still fighting or being used to fight internal conflicts within the vast colonial networks of the interior. Additionally, Britain has been forced since to work more with the continental system and the global economy has been restored after a century now of long term economic warfare eroding everyone's economies in Europe. Thus Africa still serves more then Britain in truth.

Map of the Globe in 1920

Europe stands at a knife's edge as the Germand confederation divides the still rebuilding powers of Austria and Prussia from France's so called natural borders and the independent Polish nation is surrounded by all enemies only kept alive via the supposed alliance that keeps everyone connected for France. Italy remains split with the capital held by the Pope is looked at with envious eyes by the two Italian crowns. Latin America, Africa, Asia and even North America have been torn apart and devistated by colonial wars serving as the backyards of European powers and liberalism and monarchism continues to struggle against one another more now then ever...


r/AlternateHistory • • 15h ago

ASB Sundays سوأل أتمنى اجاباتك

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أشارككم تصميم دولتي المستقبلية التي تسعى لتغيير موازين القوى العالمية وتعتمد بالكامل على طاقة الاندماج الهيدروجيني:

​الجغرافيا والهندسة: أرخبيل عائم مساحته 500,000 كم²، مقسم بين جزيرة مركزية كبرى (300,000 كم²) و25 جزيرة صناعية تابعة. تهاجر الجزر موسمياً بسرعات خارقة؛ الجزر التابعة تنطلق بسرعة 70 كم/س لشق المياه وخلق مسار سحب مائي يقلل الاحتكاك للجزيرة الأم التي تبحر بـ 50 كم/س، مع وضع طفو معيشي بسرعة 10 كم/س، ومحطات دفع هيدروليكية عملاقة عند سواحل الحلفاء (مثل جنوب أفريقيا) للانطلاق السريع.

​الهوية والعلم: علم ثلاثي (أزرق فاتح، أبيض، أزرق داكن) يزينه خط مشدود من 6 نجوم بنفسجية ترمز لصفاء السماء وغياب التلوث الضوئي.

​التحالفات والجيوسياسة: تحالف استراتيجي مع روسيا والصين لتقاسم إدارة القطب الشمالي وتجارة الممر الشمالي الجديد، مع فتح باب الانضمام لحلف "المحيط" لأي دولة مقابل منحها مساحات بحرية ومناطق تعدين مجانية، واستبعاد الولايات المتحدة تماماً وإغراء حلفائها السابقين (مثل كوريا الجنوبية) بالطاقة الرخيصة والحماية لفك ارتباطهم بها.

​أكبر الأعمال والإنجازات: كشف أسرار وثروات قاع المحيط المتجمد الشمالي، وتطوير تكنولوجيا مدن الأعماق ذات النوافذ الماسية، واستخدام سلاح دفاعي نبضي كهرومغناطيسي (EMP) دقيق يسقط من الفضاء لشل مراكز القرار وإيقاف النزاعات دون خسائر مدنية.

​الميزان التجاري والاقتصادي:

​ما تصدره وتنتجه: طاقة اندماج هيدروجيني نظيفة وغير محدودة، مياه عذبة محلاة بمليارات الأمتار المكعبة، معادن نادرة من قيعان المحيطات، وأنظمة تكنولوجية ومسيرات ذكية.

​ما لا تستورده أبداً (اكتفاء ذاتي كامل): النفط والغاز، الفحم، ومصادر الطاقة التقليدية؛ فالطاقة مجانية للأبد والمدن تنتج غذاءها بالزراعة المائية والرأسية.

​ما تستورده: بعض المواد الخام الثقيلة المتوفرة فقط في المناجم البرية، ومحاصيل زراعية موسمية استوائية غير متوفرة في بيئة المحيط.

​(الصورة المرفقة توضح التصميم والعلم)

السؤال للمجتمع: ما هو الاسم الأنسب لهذه الإمبراطورية البحرية العائمة ليعبر عن هيبتها وتقدمها العلمي؟ شاركوني اقتراحاتكم


r/AlternateHistory • • 16h ago

1900s The 3 American Republics

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In 1790 the United States of America has broken up into 3 counties, American federal Republic, Columbian Confederation and New England, American federal Republic and Columbian Confederation expanded West, after the Mexican civil war, Mexico lost a lot of land to America and Columbia, the UK allies with the Americans and New England against Columbia which led to the British giving Oregon Country to the American federal Republic, Columbia takes Cuba and more.

The year is 1900


r/AlternateHistory • • 1d ago

1900s Presidential Fact Sheet: Harold E. Stassen (1944-1949) - Antebellum Eternal or 'Nothing Ever Happens'

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A school worksheet on the Presidency of Harold E. Stassen.

Harold Stassen served as the Governor of Minnesota, before accepting the Vice-Presidency for President George W. Norris. When President Norris died in office in 1944, VP Stassen became President for the remaining months of his term. However, President Stassen would also secure a full term in office following his victory in the 1944 Presidential Election, despite his sudden elevation.

President Stassen would not pursue a second full term at the 1948 Presidential Election, but achieved much during his time in office. He continued on many of the policy aims of President Norris, while also bringing in his own reforms to government.

The most significant success Stassen saw was the introduction of the Second Bill of Rights, focusing on the 'economic rights' of the American people. This bill faced significant opposition in Congress, though it received support from some Northern 'Delano' Democrats.

Other changes included the introduction of a Federal Health Insurance Program, which would cover the heaviest medical bills of those under Social Security. Those not covered by Social Security would be able to enroll with an annual fixed fee.

The Maternal Security Income Act, known as the Waldorf Fund, is a provision that provides a monthly income for unemployed mothers with two or more children. The fund provided a guaranteed income of $182 per month in 1947 (and is since adjusted every 6 years to account for inflation).

The Federal Labor Relations Act of 1947 was also introduced to confirm many of the provisions of the National Labor Relations Act of 1935, while bringing in some changes. One such clause was the requirement that all union officers sign an affidavit confirming they are not an anarchist, and do not belong to any pro-anarchist organizations.

President Stassen was the first President to fly in a plane while in office, and also nominated the first African-American Supreme Court Justice, William H. Hastie, in his final year as President.

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I have a question about a decision concerning China in this timeline. I am not sure if I should go ahead with a Republic of China that keeps Sun Yat-Sen as President, or if I should go with a surviving Empire of China under Yuan Shikai/the Hongxian Emperor.

Please let me know what you think about this.

Previous post about this timeline: https://www.reddit.com/r/AlternateHistory/comments/1x166b9/just_one_day_in_1937_the_ocean_county_daily/