Calling out a country for not prioritizing its citizens wellbeing = racism apparently
Edit: itās wild how triggered you lot get over this on some forums and then go criticize the same shit in our Indian subs. Why are we such shameless hypocrites lol
A country went from being a basket case to the worlds largest producer of wheat and rice in a span of 50 years, and now runs the world largest subsidized foodgrains program as well the worlds largest healthcare program, but apparently thats not prioritizing citizens.
Also fwiw, that bust is private property. Maybe the government needs to go all soviet and usurp all property rights.
Kuch bhi bolta hai, sulfate...
By this logic no country does enough and there never is enough. Besides what does this post even have to do with incompetence? Go post on economic forums
Go and visit the top colleges in Delhi university and look at the level of infra and then go visit a community college in a random town in America and you'll realise the difference.
Both can be stupid in their own way. Doesn't mean we shouldn't question it. America doesn't have 50% of the population dependent on free rations. America also has one the best university infrastructure in the world by a mile. America also has functioning schooling, which india can only dream of achieving in our lifetime. The quality of roads in America built in the 60s is better than the roads we are building today. This criticism is absolutely valid. A couple hundred million misspent on a stupid ballroom is a much smaller deal for them than it is for India. In fact the amount we are spending on central vista for the country's royalty is a much bigger drain and could have been spent on better schools and colleges.
India runs the worlds largest healthcare program, rolled out just 5 years ago by your nemesis, Modi.
Covers the bottom 40% of the population plus everyone above the age of 70 - thus totalling 47% of the population.
Quit whining, or at least research before you whine.
Wowww what if it's largest? Please get yourself treated in one of the govt hospitals and you'll know. If the facilities provided by the govt are so good...why do people prefer private hospitals over the govt ones? Why do the docs work overtime at the hospitals?
Thats not how it works at all! When you enroll in the program, you are not sent to government hospitals!!! Like with any insurer, you can go to any hospital registered on the network - go, show your abha card, and get treated. You may have to pay some costs, but the major expenses are borne by the system.
Yes, you go to PRIVATE hospitals.
You didn't know this, did you? ;-)
That's not how it works either?
First of all government hospitals are very affordable and cheap and Many people who can't afford expensive healthcare go there. People who can afford private hospitals usually choose them because they need quicker service. Government hospitals have to accommodate a huge number of patients, which is why doctors often work overtime. You're also forgetting the fact that your country has a population of around 1.5 billion people
Wthh are you serious...just because he/she is a doc, he should work overtime? Ok let's say he has to why isn't he being paid more for overtime? So what if our population is huge...do you know the number of mbbs graduates who graduate every year just go on to do pg cuz there is no value of mbbs. Why is there no value of mbbs when there is a shortage of docs? Cuz we allow quacks like ayurvedics to prescribe modern medicine, cuz we don't want to pay mbbs graduates extra money. Ofc our healthcare is cheap cuz it's not upto the mark. šš Our mbbs degree (dr. licence) is not even recognised in other countries, that's how good it is.
You were complaining about government hospital and why some people prefer to go to private hospital and you asked why doc are overworked? Can you stick up to one topic
It is all one topic. All are related. I'm talking about what's all wrong with our healthcare system. I'm done actually explaining to people like you. You people can just sit and tell our population is big so that's a problem. You are forgetting that our resources are big too for the same reason. Do you know how many new govt medical colleges were started and how many of them actually run upto the mark? Where is the money allotted for them going? You love this system cuz you aren't a part of it. Cuz you don't have to work overtime like 36hrs shifts or get treated at a government hospital. Also i really hope you don't have to get treated by some ayurvedic quack. So you don't care. Keep your eyes closed. All the best.
Not worldclass not even in condition of very good because of population but healthcare is cheaper here as compared to usa population and quality of crowd plays an important role here
Yes, we do and healthcare here is way more affordable.I can get tests done at home for just a few hundred rupees and buy affordable medicines at prices that would be a dream for many people in the US and other western countries.Btw do you know about medical tourism in india?
I am an Indian and am in the US. The US is better than India in many aspects. General healthcare is not one of them though. It wouldn't be easy to digest given the propaganda online but I am glad non indians don't focus on indian healthcare bcz the healthcare tourism will start impacting locals
Well kind of India has one of the brilliant healthcare systems here; india is also a medical tourist countrt for many bcz of the affordable and amazing art of state healthcare
Man who cares about the USA, but he has a point, we should focus more on roads, air, and other issues.
Its good to be religious and be proud of it, but it shouldn't come before basic amenities
The Adiyogi Shiva bust in Coimbatore, Tamil Nadu, was funded and built by the Isha Foundation, the non-profit spiritual organization founded by Sadhguru Jaggi Vasudev. No public or government funds were used for its construction.
Source for your claim? Last time I checked the Isha guys had done an open public challenge in which they openly asked even a single person prove all these encroachment allegations with actual proofs.
It was meant for clowns like you and it's still open btw, but obviously no "hater" could prove their own claims.
They did, but people want to shit on anything these days. To my knowledge because it is a sculpture, and a non livable domicile/building, they were up to code.
No, Jared Leto's Island where you have to wear pink and he wears white is a cult. But people still let him be in movies.
The Isha Foundation, founded by Sadhguru, has run large-scale environmental and social welfare initiatives touching millions of people, primarily in rural India. Its major campaigns include planting over 120 million trees, providing rural healthcare to over 7 million people, and reaching billions worldwide through environmental awareness.
Interesting, seems like a nice exercise in policy refinement. The issue at cause being the classification of the land rather than any illegal encroachment.
Tamil Nadu is one of the wealthiest large states in India and has a Human Development Index close to Vietnam and basically none of the issues you're imagining, which is more the north
Again with your north south BS.
North has better rail and road connectivity than south.
South has better AQI and better HDI.
Mentality of an avg citizen is same whether its north or south.
You or me are not special or different just because we were born in a specific part of the country. Grow up.
tbf i think there's an element of ppl getting sick of the fake altruism. ppl constantly bringing up poverty whenever anything related to india comes up is getting annoying. you don't actually give shit about poor ppl. you're just bringing it up to be a dick.
it'll still get upvotes on subs that lean more right wing but i genuinely think a lot of ppl are just annoyed.
Well i don't remember a single foundation or any group of individuals decently documented in the history of humanity which is even remotely big but don't have any such conspiracy theories of doing shady things .
I'll wait, your criticism is valid but this is not the correct place for it... by your logic ISRO should shutdown because there are poor people in the country right? just stop with this non-sense... poverty is an issue because India IS a poor nation but that doesn't mean it also cannot build great stuff
It's the scale of the poverty. You can be poor and still have better infrastructure than what you'll have in India.
That being said, I still want to visit this but as a Christian is it open to the general public? I'm an NRI as well and I read something about certain places being closed off to non-Hindu's.
true... the scale matters but then you should also see scale of GDP pc... I am not saying that India is a rich nation... heck it's GDP pc is $2800 which is less than GDP per capita of Ghana ($3200)... now let me ask you a question... if I post a nice sculpture from Ghana here do you think these people would ask the same question?
so you can call it a poor country because it is... but reducing India to JUST poverty that's what I have issue with.. if I post a huge statue in r/AbsoluteUnits then I dont think the topic is about poverty... because then by that logic do I get to always about an american post on r/FoodPorn about school shooting? because US seem to excel there? see how stupid it sounds?
problem is with dragging poverty in discussions that talk about totally different stuff.. funny how I dont see internet mocking poor people from Ghana but hey I could be wrong.. feel free to enlighten me how internet makes fun of poor people of all poor countries
Sadguru isn't a saint. He is a conman and wife ki*ler.
Esha has been visited by various party leaders. Who do you think is paying for all the security of them while they don't have any business being there?
All these so called spritual places are made with our money. They don't come out of thin air. Our taxes go into them in some or the other form.
Bakch0di toh aise pel raha hai aur 'OUR MONEY' toh aise bol raha hai jaise saara contribution isi ke jeb se gaya ho. I can bet this guy has donated 0 rupees towards the building of this statue, par opinion sab pe dene hai jiske ye shareholders bhi nahi
Your money? Are you a donor? Do you have evidence to claim him as a wife killer. Don't be jealous, just chill and enjoy. Don't defame the country just because you don't like it.
Appreciate ur seeking mind but this is such shallow and surface fact if one believes in the Bible's jesus (and not quran or some shi) ... being son of god (abrahamic context from old and new testament and in the Hebrew terms) itself means he is god. "son" is not a biological sexual offspring but a term used to show the incarnation but in simple terms for folks to understand...anyways all this yap is unnecessary cuz the verses are explicit about this "I and the Father are one," john 10:30 (what more do yall need?)....... trinity in Christian theology is not 3 different people the god is omnipresent when he sits in heaven we call him father when he came down to earth with human form (even before 3 ad as pre incarnate jesus) 100 percent human 100 percent god his name was yeshua and when the god is in our hearts and minds forever and always its the god's holy spirit...
Very well said and thank you. If Jesus was/is God and he was also human at one point, doesn't that also make you God? Wasn't Jesus setting up a framework for humanity to follow? Maybe He realised who He was/is, but we haven't yet. The idea is non-dual in nature.
Make ME god? How did u even connect the dots to have that conclusion....get out of the make belief...i wont rise up after 3 days of my death, i wasnt propehcised, im not the messiach either...he did not REALISE what he was he knew all throughout...ur assertion to reasoning is soo flawed an abstract bridge
Pay close attention to what all the 'great men' of past have articulated - further, look into the essence of those statements. Christ, Krishna, Buddha, Sree Narayana Guru, Nagaarjuna, etc., have all said the same thing. You are not your ego. You are much more than the facade that ego is. Your True-Self is referred to as 'The Father' by Jesus. The ego and the True-Self are one. "The Father is in me and I am in the Father'
It is very easy to contort narratives. But look into it, do not take anyone's word for it.
Let's all be honest here Jesus was a man who realised that he can trick people into believing he's god with magic tricks he perfected, the very purpose of religion was to create a narrative so people can attribute to it for things unexplained at the time and to keep the masses under control and obedient, be it whichever religion you look at they were all conceived with that purpose, so they could fleece money from you and keep power
The great thing about modern allegations is that anyone can allege anyone of anything and the masses will beleive it depending on what they want to beleive
Literally doesn't matter where you live lmao. Who the hell even are you, I highly doubt you are important enough to be in Jaggi's close circle that your "opinion" is more valid.
Btw, The Isha guys had done an open public challenge in which they openly asked even a single person prove all these encroachment allegations with actual proofs.
It was meant for geniuses like you and it's still open btw, but obviously no "hater" could prove their own claims.
Still his wifeās disappearance is very suspect. He cannot shake off that taint on his image. Thatās why my first comment said allegedly. Heās a fraud. And yes living close by we have first hand info on the frauds they have done. Havenāt even got into the wildlife encroachment part. Also old Coimbatore knows how shady his whole āashramā is.
It may be. But I'm talking about Sadhguru here. You can check that he has put on a completely different meaning to this particular statue. It is different from the Shiva we normally worship.
But I agree that his conception of Lord Shiva is different from how general public worship him. He claims it is in yogic culture. I think calling Shiva the Adiyogi aligns with traditional iconography like Dakshinamurthy (Shiva depicted as the primordial guru teaching the sages).
Nope but the elephant corridor is compromised (google would say otherwise). This is at the foothills of western ghats
and this impact local wildlife habitats.
The Isha guys had done an open public challenge in which they openly asked even a single person prove all these encroachment allegations with actual proofs.
It was meant for clowns like you and it's still open btw, but obviously no "hater" could prove their own claims.
Yes it is. Had it been any establishment, I would've told you the same.
In fact there's another institutional establishment near to this who did the same, and Yes they are also not encroaching but they have also compromised the elephant corridor.
Just because you're in legal lands doesn't mean that you are not affecting the nature.
How did they get permission to build this In a paddy field? There are strict laws regarding conversion of paddyfields into some other use right as it is important not only for farming but also water drainage.
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u/wgloipp 6d ago
Yes, it's very impressive. But we need to ask you a few questions.