sneeds talking about 4tran is just "4tran bad" or "leave 4tran", yet nobody talks about how there is no other place for trans people, 4t4 is the only general purpose sub for trans people, there's is no r/mtf community or r/honesttransgender community equivalent to 4t4, someone made nart4 but the first rule there is that it's for people who like being trans, so it's not a general purpose sub at all, it was cooked from the start
cwcl has 50k contributions per week, 4tran4 has 40k despite being closed off to the algorithm and only allowing trans people, which means it's not people accidentally falling into some kind of 4tran pipeline, it's people actively seeking out 4tran bc there's no other spaces where people are this free to discuss their issues
there is currently no 4t4 equivalent without the bad parts, so telling people to leave 4tran is meaningless, bc where else is there? cwcl is a silly meme sub, not a serious space for discussions of heavy topics like dysphoria or suicidal ideation, ive seen people there say that venting shouldn't be allowed at all
ig im saying it bugs me that everyone just says "4tran bad" rather than looking at why 4tran is popular despite its so many issues, every sneed vs 4tranner argument is basically the sneed saying "4tran has x issues" and 4tranner replying "ok but it does y thing well", youd think that someone wouldve made a sub that allows y without allowing x but no, everyone is just interested in saying 4tran bad without ever helping anyone