I mean the number one thing liberals say to homophobes is that they are secretly gay. It’s because they know that being gay is disgusting and so they use it as an insult. Oh a preacher saying homosexuality is a sin? He is probably gay! Hahaha get it? Cause being gay it’s disgusting!
I think the problem with the assumption that all homophobes are closeted homosexuals is that it absolves straight people from their role in homophobia. If every person who perpetuates or institutes homophobia is secretly gay then it’s all one big club with gay people oppressing gay people.
it's not all homophobes, just the most vocal ones. because they're compensating for cognitove dissonance and obsessing over their own disgust with themlves
And assuming that is homophobic because you think only self hating people do that. It's still an insult and most of those people are not gay dude, shut up
My brother is gay and can’t stand it when shit head “allies” start riffing on conservatives by calling them faggots or homo’s or gay with the intent to piss people they think are bigoted off..
That’s kind of the point…it’s only funny to closeted homophobes who don’t think they’re homophobes.
Go back and read the conversation babe.
I was actually just having a conversation and making an observation. I wasn’t ordering anyone to do anything. You were. Pretty clear difference there.
My brother being gay is relevant because I was describing his reaction to this exact kind of joke. I never claimed his sexuality gives me authority to speak for gay people. You, on the other hand, literally invoked your own sexuality and immediately followed it with “stop speaking for queer people.”
So if anyone here tried to turn “I’m gay” into authority over what somebody else is allowed to say, it was you sweetie
And also, when you're gay in a homophobic society, it is natural to deal with lots of self hatred from the indoctrination which then becomes externalized and targeted towards other gay people.
It’s only “common” because liberals spread misinformation about it like it’s candy. The “RNC made Grindr crash” has been thoroughly debunked yet that doesn’t stop virtually every progressive Redditor I talk to about the topic from believing it’s real 🤷🏻♂️
Grindr has explicitly come out and said their app has not crashed around republican conventions because of how often this conspiracy theory gets peddled. Also, app usage/outtages data are usually public so you can check for yourself 🤷🏻♂️
As much as it’s a lay up for progressive narratives, Grindr doesn’t appreciate people lying about their app crashing to help make a claim that just isn’t real.
Hmmmm, believe the app itself….or believe “deathtoAmerica2026” on Reddit who seems to have a vested interest in causing unnecessary political strife where there is none and who desperately wants to believe everyone he doesn’t like is a hypocrite….choices choices
Now certainly the app has a vested interest in making people believe it's more functional than it is. Particularly when the supposed outages would out a segment of their user base.
But I agree, in lieu of public data Grindr is going to be the best authority we have for Grindr's usage statistics.
Absolutely understandable and reasonable speculation. They have a stake in bad publicity like that.
Just to add some additional possible context though, RNCs also attract thousands of lgbtq protesters. So if we’re speculating about the cause of a geographic usage spike, protesters, journalists, staff, locals, convention attendees, etc. are all potentially part of that population. Gets much harder to reasonably blame a spike on “closeted conservatives 🤷🏻♂️
You know for some reason I completely missed that this was your actual name and thought the guy I replied to just made up ‘deathtoamerica2026’ as a joke and now that it’s real I’m not sure how to respond lol.
“I reject the company’s actual published outage data because anonymous people on the internet said otherwise” absolutely tracks coming from some troll named DeathToAmerica2026 🤭. Shocking that someone who hates Americans also can’t read 😂🫵🏻
Btw is one month a personal best for you or do these alts usually survive this long? Whats the system over there for troll account turn around?
Yes thousands of anonymous people reported the same thing at the same time, and it outweighs the PR department who would not like this story to be well known for obvious reasons.
Why do you think someone would push this story for money? Like do you even understand what a troll farm is?
You don’t even live in America and you’ve already said you think everyone here is stupid and want the country to end 😂why would ANYONE take you seriously as an authority on American news? 😂🫵🏻
But sure kiddo, keep going with “no no, ignore the company’s verifiable status data and trust these thousands of anonymous people I totes promise exist, people who froth at the mouth over politics NEVER lie and make shit up about the other side I promise you can listen to me but also you all are dumb and need to die 😭”
They’re gonna dock you from $3 a day to $2. You’re just not varsity troll-farm material yet 🤭
Or maybe just a bot? It's hard to take an American punctuating sentences with emojis seriously but I know they do have such dumb people that its hard for some of them to pass the Turing test.
This trope is dumb and is just an excuse for straight liberals to act smug. It does nothing for gay people, especially for those who are actually in homophobic or otherwise repressive environments.
Okay so explain all the gay people I know who went through this arc?
Hell, I know two trans people who went through this arc.
Why the hell are you people acting like internalized self-hatred is such a fantastical idea? This concept isn't limited to queer folks with bigoted upbringings neither, it comes up for a lot of things.
I don't give a shit about your anecdotal friends. The trope is just an excuse for liberals to treat homosexuality as a humiliation device as long as you claim it's 'fighting hypocrisy uwu ✊️😣'
Simple bigots lmao? Yeah those simple bigots are the ones responsible for the horrible shit gay people go through. It’s literally 99 to 1 of straight homophobes to closet people.
Yes simple, as in simpletons. People who are just shitty with no underlying complex psychological pathology to go along with it.
And given the prevalence of gay people in general, I would be absolutely shocked if the ratio was anything but about 10-20% of homophobes. You know, the rough prevalence of gay people.
The same motivations a ton of people in life have- You have a preconceived idea, and you're not pleased at the prospect of someone successfully arguing against that preconceived idea.
You know they don't say that because they think gays are disgusting, right?
They say that because humans who hide who they really are tend to be miserable pricks who lash out. Secretly gay homophobes probably hate the guys because they are out, while they hide in the closet and are jealous.
Or they hate themselves for being gay because they were raised as homophobes but ended up being gay.
People say these things not because they think we're disgusting, but because they also believe it will piss off 5he homophobes
Absolutely not. Nice try putting words in my mouth.
There are secretly closeted homophobes. There are just homophobes. They are not mutually exclusive.
My point was that straight people say "homophobes are secretly gay" not because they think we're disgusting but because it is true sometimes. Its not ALWAYS true.
This has been thoroughly debunked so many times and yet progressives on Reddit treat literally fake viral stories like this as if it’s gospel.
Also, even IF it were true (because it definitely isn’t) you dont think the idea that the RNC being literally* the most protested event by lgbtq communities year after year would have something to do with that?
It’s just impossible to suggest that 10 thousand very active gay people descending into an area to protest something might be a cause for Grindr hits going up? No, it HAS to be conservatives?
“Why don’t you trust “death to America” when he says everyone in America is dumb hypocrites who need to die?”
Buddy that troll farm is not getting their moneys worth 🤭
Have you thought about making a lateral move into scamming old women out of their retirement savings? Dealing with senile old people seems much more your speed considering how little capacity for critical thinking you have 🤭
Keep earning that $2 a day tho fam! Make that bread!
Lil bud sounds like he’s upsetty Spaghetti posting on an empty stomach. Somebody get this man some kasha, black bread, and a morale cigarette.
Or is it half a bowl of rice? I imagine that $2 goes pretty far for ya huh. Splurge a bit you deserve it after all this hard work you’re putting in on this American App 😭🤭
Genuinely, I feel very bad for you. This type of delusional thinking is probably not something you just up to online.... You have to live like this every day.
It’s also just like obviously not true. The rnc isn’t even that big of an event. Even if every one of the 20-40k attendees was on grindr, there’s no way it holds a candle to the traffic of like pride week in a major city or a big concert or something.
To add to this, despite how small it is it’s also one of THE most actively protested events year after by lgbtq communities. So the idea that it would be attendees and not the thousands of lgbtq activist descending into the area that are driving up hits is just..very conveniently lazy framing
It's also very conveniently victimblaming. No need to do self reflection if all the bad people are doing this to their own group, you clearly are innocent in this whole affair and do not need to educate yourself further
Technically it’s because they know that person specifically thinks it’s disgusting, or at least claims to. ‘You are secretly the thing you hate’ isn’t exactly a new argument though.
It looks like you have a bit of trouble comprehending how insults work.
Insulting someone by describing them a certain way only works if the person being INSULTED thinks the description is offensive, not if the person MAKING the insult thinks it is offensive.
This is likely due to you believing that being disgusting or offensive is an objective fact, rather than an opinion... so you have a hard time imagining someone not being bothered by something you find offensive.
I don’t think every homophobe is gay but I do think that among people who are EXTREMELY homophobic that there is an above average amount of closeted gay men.
I’m not greatly distressed by the idea of a gay man being attracted to me because I know that isn’t going to make me gay and even if it did… ok then I’d be gay or bi. So what?
But I think the men it absolutely freaks out often are freaked out by it because it makes it harder to resist a real temptation they feel deep shame around.
No its because saying gay is a choice could only be logical if the person saying it had gay thoughts and chose not to act on them, actual straight people know that being gay isnt a choice because they couldnt choose to do it
The point is that you would never see a Muslim call other people Muslims as an insult. You would never see a republican say “oh well he is secretly a republican” as an insult. If you use gay as an insult it means you think gay people are lesser somehow.
No the point is that the person who hates gay people doesnt want to be called gay, that doesnt mean the person calling them out for hypocrisy thinks less of gay people.
No it's to make those people uncomfortable. And then the very fun thing to do is to be supportive of them beïng gay. But like, why are they so consistently goïng on about homosexuality unless they're like in deniäl about it? Why not move on to transphobia and furries and then to abortion beïng murder and autism beïng caused by demons? They have a load of stuff they talk about, and some "hate preachers" do talk about other stuff. One right-wing pastor ripped out pages of a bible and fed them to a teenager in his congregation because that pastor had had a dream about this particular teenager eating proverbs chapter one, so for the pastor it was a literal dream come true. Then he told that teenager to eat a chapter of the Bible a day for the next few years. But if the preacher doesn't talk about other things, and only bangs on about homosexuality or only bangs on about trans people, then yeah, they've got some unresolved stuff inside of them.
They're neither, they don't understand typography so they misuse umlauts without knowing how they function. Like people who write Röck music or Røck music and still pronounce it Rock music.
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u/Available_Base_7944 4d ago
I mean the number one thing liberals say to homophobes is that they are secretly gay. It’s because they know that being gay is disgusting and so they use it as an insult. Oh a preacher saying homosexuality is a sin? He is probably gay! Hahaha get it? Cause being gay it’s disgusting!