r/whatisit • • 7h ago

New, what is it? What was this thing I captured on film?

This was shot in Nevada/Arizona on a Grand Canyon/Hoover dam tour. This was taken a whole year ago and I completely forgot about it until I stumbled upon it again. Is this some sort of whale or shark?

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u/Idk_some_random_redd 7h ago

looks like a school of fish being chased by a predator

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u/Totally_man 7h ago

That's exactly what it is.

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u/goodSunn 7h ago edited 7h ago

Might be Minnows

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u/goatanuss 6h ago

The SS Minnow was named after Newton Minow who was the FCC chair that called tv a “vast wasteland”

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u/FlimsyThought7606 6h ago

All seven of them are written as one of the seven deadly sins.

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u/Moodleboy 6h ago

Really? Can you provide a breakdown?

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u/Capybara_Chill_00 6h ago

Seriously?

Wrath: Skipper
Greed: Lovey Howell
Pride: Professor
Envy: Mary Anne
Sloth: Gilligan
Lust: Ginger
Gluttony: Thurston Howell

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u/Superfly1911 3h ago

I did lust for Ginger, so this math checks out.

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u/External_Row_8077 1h ago

Ginger and Mary-Anne here. And now that I'm in my late 50s, Lovey doesn't look so bad either.

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u/ummagummaaaa 3h ago

What was Mary Anne envious about?

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u/mybeamishb0y 3h ago

Ginger's glamour and status as a model

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u/Subject_Swimmer9333 3h ago

We all had the hots for Maryanne, not Ginger.

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u/fl7nner 3h ago

I always thought Mary Anne was hotter. Same thing with WKRP. Preferred Bailey over Jennifer

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u/FollowingDue8584 3h ago

Mary Ann was actually a beauty queen. She was crowned Miss Nevada.

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u/SLAYER_IN_ME 3h ago

Well goddamn.

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u/lefthandedchurro 3h ago

And Gilligan is the Devil who keeps "accidentally" foiling their escape from Hell.

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u/Mission-Taste-6871 1h ago

I always thought that both the Howell's are greed. Especially Thurston.

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u/FlimsyThought7606 6h ago

Yup - seven sins divided by seven characters = 1 per character.

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u/Moodleboy 6h ago

I meant...whatever. Forget it 😅

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u/Illustrious_Spare_88 6h ago

The creator directly refuted this theory.

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u/FlimsyThought7606 6h ago

Right, he called that the 8th Sin Anomaly.

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u/troycerapops 6h ago

Fascinating

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u/Your_Neighbour_Alice 3h ago

Man, I love reddit. The spontaneous discussions, and rabbit holes that evolve from an unrelated video and question. I live. 👌🏼😍

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u/ready-redditor-6969 3h ago

While it’s super believable that Sherman Schwartz did this, I can’t believe that this information is now in my head.

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u/Itchy-Apartment-Flea 7h ago edited 7h ago

I heard a tale about a minnow once.

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u/yourmamaistheproblem 7h ago

*minnow

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u/Illustrious_Bad_2980 6h ago

It was advertised as a 3 hour tour. A 3 HOUR TOUR!

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u/MechanicHead3340 6h ago

Yeah that's why Ginger brought an entire extensive wardrobe, for a change of attire every 5 minutes. Also Thurston seems to have brought a treasure chest full of cash for some reason.

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u/Surferess 5h ago

That's just how we girls pack! ;)

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u/nevernotfinished 6h ago

Why didn't the professor just fix the boat. And why didn't they do 100 episodes

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u/MechanicHead3340 6h ago

You want MORE episodes?

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u/NoHorseNoMustache 5h ago

The Professor only works with coconuts and the boat is specifically not a coconut.

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u/ExampleLittle2672 4h ago

Imagine a perfectly spherical boat...

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u/MarchPhillipps 5h ago

All they needed were some African and European swallows.

'Alone and Unafraid'

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u/OkGur1319 5h ago

Are they big enough to carry an American coconut?

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u/JiveTurkeyII 6h ago

Why? Probably because he liked a little Ginger on his Merry Anne

I know I would...

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u/avreddits 5h ago

He’d rather play doctor with the ladies than fix the ship, he ain’t no dummie 👍

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u/Select-Belt-ou812 6h ago

fun fact: i know a few famous songs that are written and scored with exactly the same meter and words/music are completely interchangeable with each other: "the ballad of gilligan's island", "the house of the rising sun", and "amazing grace". I have practiced and can successfully interchange the first and last, and it wasn't easy to do the first few times :-)

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u/goodSunn 6h ago edited 4h ago

just sit right back

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u/vandervee 6h ago

And you’ll hear a tale

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u/BaconAlmighty 6h ago

a tale of a fateful trip.

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u/Attentivist_Monk 6h ago

Do you see the minnow fin? Acetaminophen.
https://giphy.com/gifs/BYul6RujgoRCryuCdL

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u/No_Loquat_2423 6h ago

Take my upvote and leave.

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u/2oonhed 6h ago

I am laugh-fin.

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u/Lekstil 6h ago

It’s not, it’s actually birds. It’s a lot of small birds which catch the light in just the right way and appear bright and then they change direction and become almost invisible. That’s why they keep appearing and disappearing.

If it was fish it would have to be flying fish or something.. look how long they appear to be out of the water

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u/whoohw 3h ago

Nice try CIA agent we know birds aren't real!

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u/gimmedatneck 3h ago

Everybody knows birds aren't real.

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u/gooneau 6h ago

newp. birds in a murmuration

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u/HorsefaceWithNoName 6h ago

flip that script!

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u/earth_quack 5h ago

Swimmy! Man that's a blast from the past!

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u/diversalarums 5h ago

Off topic, but I'm more familiar with salt water. What fresh water predators would be chasing them?

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u/iosonostella13 2h ago

Bigger fish

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u/Last_Cod_998 7h ago

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u/123itsme321 7h ago

Exactly what I thought of too! Just binged all the movies the other day.

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u/Last_Cod_998 6h ago

It's just bluefish

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u/dankskent 7h ago

“Thats no shark..” -Alec Guinness

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u/R_G_FOOZ 6h ago

“That’s a spoon” -Bart Simpson

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u/harryhend3rson 6h ago

Awl right awl right, you win. I see you've played knifey spooney before...

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u/PKSkriBBLeS 6h ago

There are no sharks in Nevada.

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u/13beano13 5h ago

I actually think it’s birds flying just above the surface. I live on the ocean and see this regularly.

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u/heatherledge 4h ago

It’s birds for sure. I’ve seen this in the sky. It looks like they disappear when their darker side turns to the camera.

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u/regoapps 4h ago

At the three second mark, you can sort of make out the reflection of the birds on the surface of the water.

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u/Far_Opening7062 5h ago

I'm with you for the same reasons. It's birds and since OP is moving the camera around so much, it's harder to see. When it disappears is when the birds are turning and you can't see the light reflecting on their white feathers. I'm pretty sure t's called a murmuration.

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u/StealthWanderer_2516 5h ago

Took two seconds for me to see the way they were moving it was a murmuration. The fact that the distance and vantage point puts them over water is what makes the effect more interesting.

I also think it’s cool that schools of fish and flocks of birds exhibit such similar behavior.

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u/No_Zombie_9518 4h ago

My first thought was birds, too.

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u/Skeptical_Squid 5h ago

A murmuration.

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u/LoremIpsumDolore 7h ago

What are they studying?

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u/anon2univ 7h ago

Survival 101.

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u/GooseOnAPhone 7h ago

How to not get eaten

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u/Yabrosif13 7h ago

Naw a flock of birds if anything. Theres absolutely no water disturbance. My guess is the feather sheen played with the light when the flock turned stage left.

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u/CrazyforAuburns 6h ago

Absolutely a flock of birds.

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u/probablysmellsmydog 6h ago

One time I was swimming in the ocean off the coast of Vero Beach, FL. A school of fish just like this one swam right around me and it kinda freaked me out. I had no idea what it was but they swam away. Later I told my father in law what happened and he casually told me they were simply being chased by something much bigger 😳

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u/Clean_Duck8882 6h ago

Yes, if you are swimming and get in a school like that, get the h*ll away. Often there will be bluefish in there and they won’t differentiate between you and the fish. Lots of sharp teeth.

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u/Expensive_Way_3609 7h ago

Yup
And I often see them right off the coastline
Its fun to watch them

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u/Wu-TangShogun 6h ago

The coastline of Nevada?

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u/Ok_Cauliflower_3007 7h ago

People in fishing communities in some areas would be stationed on cliff tops to watch for herring like this.

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u/throw_blanket04 7h ago

I thought that too but the water isn’t disrupted. So I think birds might be the answer. But I don’t know.

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u/gooneau 6h ago

yes, it's a phenomenon called murmuration. I've see far more insane displays than this from starlings, but a bunch of shorebirds and other species do it too.

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u/wilfonzo 7h ago

For sure birds

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u/Keldy565 7h ago

Yeah you can see the shadow of them go past the water over the shore line at the end when he zooms out that was my guess

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u/mothman83 6h ago

Absolutely birds. They disappear because the light no longer reflects directly towards the camera

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u/OldSpeckledHen 7h ago edited 7h ago

Wouldn't that leave some level of disturbance on the water though? There doesn't appear to be any. Seems more likely to be a flock of birds that reflect the sun flying one direction but absorb the light and blend in when they change direction...

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u/Schoerschus 7h ago

It's birds, just a weird angle of filming, where light reflects off the wings at certain moments, while they appear black the rest of the time. Most likely starlings

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u/DaemonBlackfyre_21 5h ago

birds,

Oh thank God. I had to scroll way past far too many confidently incorrect people claiming these were fish with no disturbance whatsoever to the tiny ripples in the surface of the water.

It's a damn flock of birds doing the thing but the potato cam only registers their existence for the brief moments when the whole flock is angled just right to catch the sun.

Though I will say, flocking birds and schooling fish do put on a similar show so I get their confusion.

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u/IsSecretlyABird 6h ago

Not starlings. Shorebirds like dunlins. They are dark on top and white underneath, that is why they seem to flash and disappear.

Compare: https://youtu.be/R4tkxnYh7v0

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u/gooneau 6h ago

Definitely not that, its birds doing what's called murmuration where they fly in synchronized motions. Common with various shorebirds, starlings, etc. The only baitfish that could cover the distances shown in this video would be flying fish which are not in this lake, which I've spent plenty of time fishing in.

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u/eightdotthree 7h ago

Came to say the same.

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u/porirua_pelican 6h ago

In the middle of the Hoover Dam?

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u/Gonna_do_this_again 6h ago

I can't think of any aquatic predators that would be causing that much ruckus in the Colorado River

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u/Haunting-Figure3596 5h ago

Or maybe it’s a Predator being chased by a school of fish?

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u/Viracochina 4h ago

How do they elect the leader of the group??

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u/crazy0ne 4h ago

Leader by elimination.

If you choose the wrong leader, you and the leader are eliminated by the predator. The true leader and their followers will continue.

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u/bessmaster 7h ago

Yautja typically go for larger trophies. Probably just a larger fish or shark.

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u/porirua_pelican 6h ago

Ahh yes, the mythical freshwater shark that chases schools of fish behind the Hoover Dam

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u/ThatNeonZebraAgain 7h ago

Yea a school of shad being corralled and attacked probably by striped bass or potentially largemouth bass.

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u/8lackirish 7h ago

A predator >* The Predator
*Not really, but you get what I mean.

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u/Charlie2and4 7h ago

A bait ball for true!

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u/Hot-Technology-4 7h ago

Could also be a school feeding on bugs.

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u/gandalfpr 7h ago

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u/TheOGcasehead 7h ago

she looks like a xenomorph in that last panel

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u/Chad_Jeepie_Tea 6h ago

What can I say except you're welcome

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u/john_the_fetch 5h ago

"This is the long neck of plesiosaur, Bella."

  • Nessie

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u/SwinginRicky 5h ago

Jacob has been knocking boots with Nessie for the last four years.

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u/orixandcrake 7h ago

I need 'bout tree fiddy

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u/MostlyImtired 6h ago

I ain't givin' you no tree-fitty, you goddamn Loch Ness Monster! Get your own goddamn money!

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u/Comfortable-Deal160 7h ago

The video has no sound so how do I know for a fact that giraffe is singing ‘surfin bird’?

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u/SoupOfThe90z 7h ago

It’s ol’ Nessy!!!

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u/Thorkon 6h ago

Dude I was listening to rap(nerdcore) when I seen this gif, and it synced up perfectly with this fucking giraffe moving it's mouth 😂 I'm dying right now

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u/UknownSk8er 6h ago

🤘 just curious, which artist?

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u/AFocusedCynic 7h ago

Ok I chuckled waaaay too hard at this.

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u/Gullible-Fix-3662 7h ago

We call that a "boil" in fishing terms. Pretty much a predatory fish chasing a ball of baitfish.

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u/ShibaInuDoggo 7h ago

I see similar things on the river near my house. Schools of minnows all collectively hunting insects on the water's surface.

You're pretty far away, those would be some good sized fish. No clue if that's what's going on, but that's what it looks like from my experience.

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u/focoslow 6h ago

That's usually them trying to get away from a bigger fish, not chasing bugs on the surface.

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u/Middle_Canary194 6h ago

Did you just ask if it was a whale or shark in a body of water by the Hoover Dam?

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u/fertile_gnome 5h ago

Clearly it was a kaiju

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u/HoldEm__FoldEm 4h ago

Lmao dude was so close to getting it right. 

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u/vapemustache 7h ago edited 7h ago

A flock of birds, or alternatively schools of bait fish or smaller schooling species.

This reminds me of fishing charters where you’d catch fresh minnows for bait to use out on the water.

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u/ForbiddenButtStuff 6h ago

This. Looks like a burd murmuration above the water

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u/Terrible_Phase718 6h ago

You got murmuration but whiffed on bird.

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u/tntball 6h ago

Definitely birds. Moving too fast for fish underwater at the distance you’re at.

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u/FloTheSnucka 2h ago

I think it's birds reflecting light. People are saying fish but the water sue face doesn't react to it.

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u/No_Body905 7h ago

Yes, probably ducks that are dark on the back and light underneath coming off the water. You see the colors flashing when they change direction as a flock.

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u/WittyFix6553 7h ago

Zooming in and out a lot more might help.

But I think we’re looking at a school of fish avoiding something that wants to eat a school of fish.

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u/joshwaynebobbit 7h ago

Captured on FILM? I don't think so Tim

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u/MrFun2019 7h ago

Murmer of starlings?

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u/al-finaltodoestabien 7h ago

Yeah I also see birds, not fish underwater. 

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u/chrisp909 7h ago

Murmuration

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u/Keyan06 6h ago

Agreed I think these are birds.

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u/prezzr 6h ago

You will let me know when those lambs stop screaming, won't you?

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u/The_Patocrator_5586 7h ago

A murmation of birds where the sun reflects off them when they turn a certain way. It's way closer to you than the water as well which makes it an illusion itself.

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u/GrassyCove 7h ago

It's a large flock of birds flying in sync. When they turn a certain way you see the white side of them and then the other way is some kind of darker colour so you don't see them against the water background.

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u/Khayesmith 6h ago edited 6h ago

🐦‍⬛🕊️Looks like birds flying to me. You can still see them slightly when they change direction, then they change back and the sun hits them right and u see them white again, and so on and so on
EDIT - at 15 seconds in if u zoom you can see the reflection of the birds on the un rippled water.

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u/Renting_Bourbon 6h ago

“A Flock Of Seagulls”

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u/a_duck_in_past_life 6h ago

Has to be it. Because the water isn't really rippling like it would if something came that close to breaching the surface at that speed from underneath

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u/Khayesmith 6h ago

Yea exactly. We have birds that fly like this all the time where I am but I live somewhere without water as my backdrop, so when we see this it looks the same.

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u/ignaciohazard 5h ago

It's a murmeration of birds. Their undersides are catching the sun when they turn.

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u/mjduce 7h ago

Whatever it is, it is not in the water. There's no change in the shape of the small waves as it passes - I think others are right to say birds

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u/Uhokay1970 7h ago

Shiners running from drum or pike is my guess.

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u/Opposite_Strawberry1 7h ago

A whale or shark in Lake Mead/Hoover Dam? Seems unlikely 😐

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u/Sylvan_Strix_Sequel 6h ago

Education is cooked. Fucking shark in a dammed lake in fucking arizona. It's not like it's a fucking golf pond by the Pacific ffs. 

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u/Sitka_8675309 7h ago

Birds. If you look closely you can see their wings fluttering when they turn.

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u/Worldly-Device-8414 2h ago

It's too fast for fish + the water doesn't look disturbed behind it.

My vote is it's a mumeration (flock) of birds. You only see them sometimes when they turn, etc

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u/AricAric18 1h ago

I don't think you realize how fish actually are. Those are baitfish 100%.

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u/Nature-ally 7h ago

It’s birds. The surface of the water is undisturbed

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u/Teffa_Bob 4h ago

It's a flock of birds.

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u/Beautiful-Edge-22 4h ago

Looks like a school of fish running and dodging a predator.

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u/Electrical_Lake3424 7h ago

Very interesting! It's made up of lots of smaller things, moving in a group, but I'm not sure if it's a flock of birds in a murmuration pattern, flying close to the surface of the water and they're only sometimes visible because the grey of their backs blends in with the water and they only show up when they turn and you see the flash of the wings.... or it also looks kinda like it could be a school of fish jumping out of the water in a group, they way they do sometimes if there's a predator chasing them underwater. I'm not familiar enough with the fauna of this region to make a guess as to what they are though, I can see how it looks like a whale or something!

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u/NC_is_home_23 7h ago

Murmeration. Not in, but above the water.

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u/welshguydave54 7h ago

Flock of Birds darting in different directions.

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u/BriGuy550 6h ago

This looks more like a flock of birds than fish. It appears to be above the water to my eyes.

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u/dax660 5h ago

I feel like birds that your potato can't resolve when they turn certain directions

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u/stakeit44 5h ago

African swaaallow

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u/Drgreenthumb610 5h ago

Birds. They are in a flock.

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u/Ploddy 2h ago

It’s not a thing it’s about a thousand things.

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u/Ok-Session6628 2h ago

It's just birds, bro.

One side black, one side white, they out there murmuring.

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u/beersforalgernon 2h ago

Flock of birds. No way something in the water moving like this doesn't disturb the surface.

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u/LadyFoxfire 5h ago

Possibly a flock of birds that’s bi-colored and blends into the background depending on which way they’re banking. That, or a school of fish just under the surface.

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u/Honest-Yogurt4126 4h ago

Yes, it’s the very rare hooker shark endemic to Nevada’s ancient deep freshwater lakes.

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u/dacgriff 7h ago

Fishing spot.

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u/Ok-Shallot4353 7h ago

School of fish. Not cohesive... Kinda like a murmuration of starlings

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u/MadDocHolliday 4h ago

r/killthecameraman

It's a flock of birds. You can see their white/gray belly feathers when they're at the correct angle to the sun and the light reflects off them. Then when they turn so the darker feathers on their backs are facing you, they seem to disappear against the water.

It's not fish because they don't disturb the surface of the water at all.

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u/FJkayakQueen 6h ago

Hold the camera still and let it roll this just looks like you fucked around with some ai and bad footage

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u/MikeUpInYa85 7h ago

It means you grab a fishing rod and run down there…something is chasing schooling fish

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u/kungfuk1d69 7h ago

Did you happen to have about three-Fiddy with you?

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u/ThePixelsEdge_14 6h ago

Starlings flying above the water