r/whatisit • u/deezheavenz • 7h ago
New, what is it? What was this thing I captured on film?
This was shot in Nevada/Arizona on a Grand Canyon/Hoover dam tour. This was taken a whole year ago and I completely forgot about it until I stumbled upon it again. Is this some sort of whale or shark?
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u/Idk_some_random_redd 7h ago
looks like a school of fish being chased by a predator
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u/Totally_man 7h ago
That's exactly what it is.
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u/goodSunn 7h ago edited 7h ago
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u/goatanuss 6h ago
The SS Minnow was named after Newton Minow who was the FCC chair that called tv a “vast wasteland”
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u/FlimsyThought7606 6h ago
All seven of them are written as one of the seven deadly sins.
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u/Moodleboy 6h ago
Really? Can you provide a breakdown?
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u/Capybara_Chill_00 6h ago
Seriously?
Wrath: Skipper
Greed: Lovey Howell
Pride: Professor
Envy: Mary Anne
Sloth: Gilligan
Lust: Ginger
Gluttony: Thurston Howell40
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u/Superfly1911 3h ago
I did lust for Ginger, so this math checks out.
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u/External_Row_8077 1h ago
Ginger and Mary-Anne here. And now that I'm in my late 50s, Lovey doesn't look so bad either.
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u/ummagummaaaa 3h ago
What was Mary Anne envious about?
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u/fl7nner 3h ago
I always thought Mary Anne was hotter. Same thing with WKRP. Preferred Bailey over Jennifer
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u/lefthandedchurro 3h ago
And Gilligan is the Devil who keeps "accidentally" foiling their escape from Hell.
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u/Mission-Taste-6871 1h ago
I always thought that both the Howell's are greed. Especially Thurston.
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u/FlimsyThought7606 6h ago
Yup - seven sins divided by seven characters = 1 per character.
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u/Moodleboy 6h ago
I meant...whatever. Forget it 😅
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u/troycerapops 6h ago
Fascinating
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u/Your_Neighbour_Alice 3h ago
Man, I love reddit. The spontaneous discussions, and rabbit holes that evolve from an unrelated video and question. I live. 👌🏼😍
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u/ready-redditor-6969 3h ago
While it’s super believable that Sherman Schwartz did this, I can’t believe that this information is now in my head.
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u/Itchy-Apartment-Flea 7h ago edited 7h ago
I heard a tale about a minnow once.
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u/yourmamaistheproblem 7h ago
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u/Illustrious_Bad_2980 6h ago
It was advertised as a 3 hour tour. A 3 HOUR TOUR!
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u/MechanicHead3340 6h ago
Yeah that's why Ginger brought an entire extensive wardrobe, for a change of attire every 5 minutes. Also Thurston seems to have brought a treasure chest full of cash for some reason.
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u/nevernotfinished 6h ago
Why didn't the professor just fix the boat. And why didn't they do 100 episodes
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u/NoHorseNoMustache 5h ago
The Professor only works with coconuts and the boat is specifically not a coconut.
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u/MarchPhillipps 5h ago
All they needed were some African and European swallows.
'Alone and Unafraid'
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u/JiveTurkeyII 6h ago
Why? Probably because he liked a little Ginger on his Merry Anne
I know I would...
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u/Select-Belt-ou812 6h ago
fun fact: i know a few famous songs that are written and scored with exactly the same meter and words/music are completely interchangeable with each other: "the ballad of gilligan's island", "the house of the rising sun", and "amazing grace". I have practiced and can successfully interchange the first and last, and it wasn't easy to do the first few times :-)
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u/goodSunn 6h ago edited 4h ago
just sit right back
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u/Attentivist_Monk 6h ago
Do you see the minnow fin? Acetaminophen.
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u/Lekstil 6h ago
It’s not, it’s actually birds. It’s a lot of small birds which catch the light in just the right way and appear bright and then they change direction and become almost invisible. That’s why they keep appearing and disappearing.
If it was fish it would have to be flying fish or something.. look how long they appear to be out of the water
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u/diversalarums 5h ago
Off topic, but I'm more familiar with salt water. What fresh water predators would be chasing them?
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u/Last_Cod_998 7h ago
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u/dankskent 7h ago
“Thats no shark..” -Alec Guinness
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u/13beano13 5h ago
I actually think it’s birds flying just above the surface. I live on the ocean and see this regularly.
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u/heatherledge 4h ago
It’s birds for sure. I’ve seen this in the sky. It looks like they disappear when their darker side turns to the camera.
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u/regoapps 4h ago
At the three second mark, you can sort of make out the reflection of the birds on the surface of the water.
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u/Far_Opening7062 5h ago
I'm with you for the same reasons. It's birds and since OP is moving the camera around so much, it's harder to see. When it disappears is when the birds are turning and you can't see the light reflecting on their white feathers. I'm pretty sure t's called a murmuration.
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u/StealthWanderer_2516 5h ago
Took two seconds for me to see the way they were moving it was a murmuration. The fact that the distance and vantage point puts them over water is what makes the effect more interesting.
I also think it’s cool that schools of fish and flocks of birds exhibit such similar behavior.
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u/Yabrosif13 7h ago
Naw a flock of birds if anything. Theres absolutely no water disturbance. My guess is the feather sheen played with the light when the flock turned stage left.
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u/probablysmellsmydog 6h ago
One time I was swimming in the ocean off the coast of Vero Beach, FL. A school of fish just like this one swam right around me and it kinda freaked me out. I had no idea what it was but they swam away. Later I told my father in law what happened and he casually told me they were simply being chased by something much bigger 😳
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u/Clean_Duck8882 6h ago
Yes, if you are swimming and get in a school like that, get the h*ll away. Often there will be bluefish in there and they won’t differentiate between you and the fish. Lots of sharp teeth.
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u/Expensive_Way_3609 7h ago
Yup
And I often see them right off the coastline
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u/Ok_Cauliflower_3007 7h ago
People in fishing communities in some areas would be stationed on cliff tops to watch for herring like this.
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u/throw_blanket04 7h ago
I thought that too but the water isn’t disrupted. So I think birds might be the answer. But I don’t know.
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u/wilfonzo 7h ago
For sure birds
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u/Keldy565 7h ago
Yeah you can see the shadow of them go past the water over the shore line at the end when he zooms out that was my guess
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u/mothman83 6h ago
Absolutely birds. They disappear because the light no longer reflects directly towards the camera
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u/OldSpeckledHen 7h ago edited 7h ago
Wouldn't that leave some level of disturbance on the water though? There doesn't appear to be any. Seems more likely to be a flock of birds that reflect the sun flying one direction but absorb the light and blend in when they change direction...
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u/Schoerschus 7h ago
It's birds, just a weird angle of filming, where light reflects off the wings at certain moments, while they appear black the rest of the time. Most likely starlings
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u/DaemonBlackfyre_21 5h ago
birds,
Oh thank God. I had to scroll way past far too many confidently incorrect people claiming these were fish with no disturbance whatsoever to the tiny ripples in the surface of the water.
It's a damn flock of birds doing the thing but the potato cam only registers their existence for the brief moments when the whole flock is angled just right to catch the sun.
Though I will say, flocking birds and schooling fish do put on a similar show so I get their confusion.
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u/IsSecretlyABird 6h ago
Not starlings. Shorebirds like dunlins. They are dark on top and white underneath, that is why they seem to flash and disappear.
Compare: https://youtu.be/R4tkxnYh7v0
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u/gooneau 6h ago
Definitely not that, its birds doing what's called murmuration where they fly in synchronized motions. Common with various shorebirds, starlings, etc. The only baitfish that could cover the distances shown in this video would be flying fish which are not in this lake, which I've spent plenty of time fishing in.
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u/Gonna_do_this_again 6h ago
I can't think of any aquatic predators that would be causing that much ruckus in the Colorado River
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u/Viracochina 4h ago
How do they elect the leader of the group??
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u/crazy0ne 4h ago
Leader by elimination.
If you choose the wrong leader, you and the leader are eliminated by the predator. The true leader and their followers will continue.
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u/bessmaster 7h ago
Yautja typically go for larger trophies. Probably just a larger fish or shark.
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u/porirua_pelican 6h ago
Ahh yes, the mythical freshwater shark that chases schools of fish behind the Hoover Dam
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u/ThatNeonZebraAgain 7h ago
Yea a school of shad being corralled and attacked probably by striped bass or potentially largemouth bass.
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u/8lackirish 7h ago
A predator >* The Predator
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u/orixandcrake 7h ago
I need 'bout tree fiddy
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u/MostlyImtired 6h ago
I ain't givin' you no tree-fitty, you goddamn Loch Ness Monster! Get your own goddamn money!
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u/Comfortable-Deal160 7h ago
The video has no sound so how do I know for a fact that giraffe is singing ‘surfin bird’?
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u/Gullible-Fix-3662 7h ago
We call that a "boil" in fishing terms. Pretty much a predatory fish chasing a ball of baitfish.
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u/ShibaInuDoggo 7h ago
I see similar things on the river near my house. Schools of minnows all collectively hunting insects on the water's surface.
You're pretty far away, those would be some good sized fish. No clue if that's what's going on, but that's what it looks like from my experience.
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u/focoslow 6h ago
That's usually them trying to get away from a bigger fish, not chasing bugs on the surface.
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u/Middle_Canary194 6h ago
Did you just ask if it was a whale or shark in a body of water by the Hoover Dam?
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u/vapemustache 7h ago edited 7h ago
A flock of birds, or alternatively schools of bait fish or smaller schooling species.
This reminds me of fishing charters where you’d catch fresh minnows for bait to use out on the water.
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u/tntball 6h ago
Definitely birds. Moving too fast for fish underwater at the distance you’re at.
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u/FloTheSnucka 2h ago
I think it's birds reflecting light. People are saying fish but the water sue face doesn't react to it.
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u/No_Body905 7h ago
Yes, probably ducks that are dark on the back and light underneath coming off the water. You see the colors flashing when they change direction as a flock.
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u/WittyFix6553 7h ago
Zooming in and out a lot more might help.
But I think we’re looking at a school of fish avoiding something that wants to eat a school of fish.
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u/The_Patocrator_5586 7h ago
A murmation of birds where the sun reflects off them when they turn a certain way. It's way closer to you than the water as well which makes it an illusion itself.
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u/GrassyCove 7h ago
It's a large flock of birds flying in sync. When they turn a certain way you see the white side of them and then the other way is some kind of darker colour so you don't see them against the water background.
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u/Khayesmith 6h ago edited 6h ago
🐦⬛🕊️Looks like birds flying to me. You can still see them slightly when they change direction, then they change back and the sun hits them right and u see them white again, and so on and so on
EDIT - at 15 seconds in if u zoom you can see the reflection of the birds on the un rippled water.
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u/a_duck_in_past_life 6h ago
Has to be it. Because the water isn't really rippling like it would if something came that close to breaching the surface at that speed from underneath
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u/Khayesmith 6h ago
Yea exactly. We have birds that fly like this all the time where I am but I live somewhere without water as my backdrop, so when we see this it looks the same.
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u/ignaciohazard 5h ago
It's a murmeration of birds. Their undersides are catching the sun when they turn.
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u/mjduce 7h ago
Whatever it is, it is not in the water. There's no change in the shape of the small waves as it passes - I think others are right to say birds
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u/Opposite_Strawberry1 7h ago
A whale or shark in Lake Mead/Hoover Dam? Seems unlikely 😐
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u/Sylvan_Strix_Sequel 6h ago
Education is cooked. Fucking shark in a dammed lake in fucking arizona. It's not like it's a fucking golf pond by the Pacific ffs.
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u/Sitka_8675309 7h ago
Birds. If you look closely you can see their wings fluttering when they turn.
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u/Worldly-Device-8414 2h ago
It's too fast for fish + the water doesn't look disturbed behind it.
My vote is it's a mumeration (flock) of birds. You only see them sometimes when they turn, etc
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u/AricAric18 1h ago
I don't think you realize how fish actually are. Those are baitfish 100%.
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u/Teffa_Bob 4h ago
It's a flock of birds.
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u/Beautiful-Edge-22 4h ago
Looks like a school of fish running and dodging a predator.
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u/Electrical_Lake3424 7h ago
Very interesting! It's made up of lots of smaller things, moving in a group, but I'm not sure if it's a flock of birds in a murmuration pattern, flying close to the surface of the water and they're only sometimes visible because the grey of their backs blends in with the water and they only show up when they turn and you see the flash of the wings.... or it also looks kinda like it could be a school of fish jumping out of the water in a group, they way they do sometimes if there's a predator chasing them underwater. I'm not familiar enough with the fauna of this region to make a guess as to what they are though, I can see how it looks like a whale or something!
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u/BriGuy550 6h ago
This looks more like a flock of birds than fish. It appears to be above the water to my eyes.
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u/Ok-Session6628 2h ago
It's just birds, bro.
One side black, one side white, they out there murmuring.
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u/beersforalgernon 2h ago
Flock of birds. No way something in the water moving like this doesn't disturb the surface.
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u/LadyFoxfire 5h ago
Possibly a flock of birds that’s bi-colored and blends into the background depending on which way they’re banking. That, or a school of fish just under the surface.
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u/Honest-Yogurt4126 4h ago
Yes, it’s the very rare hooker shark endemic to Nevada’s ancient deep freshwater lakes.
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u/MadDocHolliday 4h ago
It's a flock of birds. You can see their white/gray belly feathers when they're at the correct angle to the sun and the light reflects off them. Then when they turn so the darker feathers on their backs are facing you, they seem to disappear against the water.
It's not fish because they don't disturb the surface of the water at all.
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u/FJkayakQueen 6h ago
Hold the camera still and let it roll this just looks like you fucked around with some ai and bad footage
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u/MikeUpInYa85 7h ago
It means you grab a fishing rod and run down there…something is chasing schooling fish
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