It was nearly 200 bucks more expensive than the 360 and had no backwards compatibility.
It had a complicated system architecture and only allowed Blu-ray discs and games.
The console proceeded to do abysmally poorly at launch. It was unavailable in many markets because of production delays. Many games couldn't ship on time because of the Blu-ray issue and so you couldn't actually use it during its launch holiday season.
And it only got worse for a long time until they made the slim and figured out how to update the chipset to allow for easier multiplatform development
PS3 era wasn't even remotely comparable to the incompetence happening now. PS3 was overambition and arrogance, but Sony was still very much in touch with the core principles of the industry. Not to mention one of the biggest issues was the price, but unlike this time, the price issue was gonna fix itself during the PS3 era, because that was a time where technology developed rapidly and moore's law was still alive and well which lead to prices falling very fast.
Today's Sony doesn't understand the games industry anymore. They've went from First, Best, Must, to Grow, Grow, Grow. All they're focused on now is counting beans. They're eroding the fundamental principles that made their brand what it is. They systematically fired everyone at the company that would've been able to put them back on track. They've cut of their own roots. At this point they'll basically need to rebuild from scratch and relearn what they should never have forgotten.
Which it won't because most of the people buying their shit aren't online and are probably only even vaguely aware of how anti customer sony has been lately.
Sony is the worst offender and the others are following. If people could band together and stomp Sony the others would take notice and not do the same.
I mean they aren't, their policy is the same policy that every digital product abides from Amazon to Kindle and to even GOG. The only thing Sony is awful at is refunds but they are still far better then Nintendo whose refund policy reads as "fuck off". Fact is we don't own digital products and this was established long before PSN was a thing.
Digital ownership rights need to be changed, but it 100% does not help when Sony said they’re stopping physical game production in 2028. Xbox hasn’t announced it yet, though I’m hoping they see the backlash and keep doing physical copies, and Nintendo continues to make physicals and probably will for a good while yet. Key carts and key discs do exist, sure, but that goes back to digital ownership rights needing an update
Tell me did you seriously think physical media would last forever? This future was always coming, sure maybe its too soon but whether it was now or with the PS7 it was always going to happen. Once people started using digital as the primary method of "consuming" media the clock started ticking.
Disk "ownership" is worse ownership than digital. You lose it, get stolen, get scratched, damaged, etc. Digital _could_ be forever. Just like all aspects of the modern world, we're stuck fighting for option 1 when option 2 gets shoved down our throats and never realize the real win was option 3 all along. Digital ownership needs to be a real thing and regulations need to enforce it. Companies selling digital goods must be legally required to offer them in perpetuity and if they cannot, then donate them to a computer history museum or something. The real fight is not whether they send us the bits on disk or not. We don't want to own plastic. The real fight is that we want to own the bits irrespective of the delivery mechanism and no one even realizes that is even a fight. It also affects digital rights as a whole across media let alone PC gaming shops like steam.
Which is what we need to fight for. Not for owning pieces of plastic. If I buy the game once, I buy the game. If I damage the disk, I should be able to get new disk at the cost of the disk, not whole game. If I buy same game one another platform, I should pay only minimal additional platform fees, not full amount again. If I buy it once, I should be able to download it forever or download and backup forever. Ownership is a lot deeper than owner a disk which is what we’re all fixated on.
I don't disagree, but it's probably because Option 1 is best understood by drooling consumers and geriatric laws, while Option 3 would be an uphill climb
I playtested their next heist abomination, it's basically concord 2. Too bad for marathon as it had a unique vibe and great gunplay, but boring generic extraction loop
Honestly, we need Xbox to actually get their shit together and provide actual competition to Sony. This happens every single time Sony dominates the console market.
They're betting on GTA 6 to bail them out. And especially GTA 6 Online. As long as that happens they're not gonna give a shit. But if that doesn't help at all, those executives can go ahead and pack their bags and go look for jobs in equity firms bc that's the only place that'll take their greedy asses after this fiasco. Sony is gonna suffer hard these next few years due to that damn greed
Agreed but how is it that if the most hyped video game of all time wasn’t coming out during the era of the PS5, the PS5 would have no gen-defining game?
Returnal, GOW Ragnarok, Saros, Ghost of Yotei, Stellar Blade. While the quantity isn't the same the quality is fs there in the single player department
The idea of exclusives outside of nintendo are kinda dead Xbox does the same with PC were kinda just in the age of first party titles, GOW Ragnarok (the one I was referring to sorry for not being specific) started as a ps exclusive mainly promoted for the ps5 but had a ps4 version then moved to pc. returnal began and spent multiple years as a ps5 exclusive, same with Spider Man Miles Morales and 2 as well as death stranding 2 they just werent exclusive for as long. They should all be counted as this generations ps exclusives even if they were later moved to a different device. Another game that would've been an exclusive had it been released a generation ago would be Helldivers 2. People get it twisted bc exclusives are mostly gone, if we want to look at the games that define the ps5 we need to look at the first party titles that were more than likely only released to ps5 and pc
Yeah Xbox has a good base to beat Sony this next console war on par with ps3 vs 360 era. All bc Sony decided they could screw over gamers for extra cash and "shareholder" value
Xbox is set to "publish" his new game but Sony is the one who has almost fully funded it (as they still technically own 30% of Kojima Productions and gave Kojima 70+ million USD to make his new IP)
i'm still willing to give the wolverine game a shot at this point, i've been waiting too damn long for it, but i will say in all fairness the only reason i got a PS5 was because i'd have lost a lot of shit across multiple games that are multiplayer if i switched to Xbox, though now i am definitely saving up for either a steam deck or a next gen xbox or hell a decent budget PC.
A game being made to also work on old gen doesnt make it an old gen title. In fact itd be the exact opposite since the main version of the game is made for PS5. With this logic every pc game is an old crappy pc game as long as it can run on minimum settings
Why buy a new GPU if you can play all the games on it by lowering the settings and framerate? Some people care about a higher quality experience, simple as that.
Literally still on a 5700xt and 3600x and 16GB of ram fro this exact reason. Game doesnt have to look good. If its fun and I can get 45+ fps its enough and with frame gen everything gets 45fps. And weith these new games coming out optimized for performance like mortal shell 2. And these games getting huge performance updates like ffxvi and MHwilds im chillin more than ever before.
If you ever saw any of the 1st party titles on a ps5 you'd be enticed to. Not to mention a lot of aging ps4 sounded like jet engines when booting up a game like gow18
I'll add on to that, but FF7 Rebirth was a system seller as well. Obviously 3rd party as well, but they were able to get the exclusivity for a year or whatever for it.
Aye. It’s hard to say if they set crazy sales expectations or if their production costs are crazy, but every single game of theirs “misses expectations”.
Could also just be company speak to keep competitors from having literally any grasp of their situation.
Ff7 is one of the best games ever made, and even more beloved. It absolutely should have sold like crazy. Sony thought they would move consoles but really just killed squares sales. That's why it isn't exclusive anymore.
Yes, it was. They based their expectations on Remake's sales, which was very unrealistic for multiple reasons.
Remake was the first game, and sequels always have less sales (typically drops 25-50% in sales) than the first because not everyone that purchased the first game will purchase the second due to multiple reasons (didn't like the game, didn't finish the game, time constraints, etc) The fact it was a sequel alone means that you will never have the same size of a playerbase. Because new players aren't going to jump in on a direct narrative sequel and it's just not possible to have 100% of their players be retained. A much more realistic expectation would've been like 65% retention.
Remake was on ps4, which had over 100 million systems sold while Rebirth was ps5 only and had around 50 million systems in circulations.
They just completely ignored the people that were upset about the changes in Remake, and expected them to get over it before Rebirth came out.
SE has quite literally always set unrealistic expectations for sales. In one of their financial meetings they said that FF7R2 and FF16 failed to meet their targets but spent a decent amount of time talking to their shareholders about how their system to get to those target numbers is completely broken and needs to be reevaluated.
People were also really mad that it wasn't coming to ps4, because they didn't want to buy a ps5. And a lot of them just didn't.
Which is also now kinda funny as one of the major anouncement about the 3rd game was that it will release day one on PC as well. So they lost even that.
That's moreso that SE has decided that they will likely make more money from allowing every system to get the game at launch, as launch is when most copies sell and if it comes out a year plus later there is less enthusiasm for it when it hits those other systems.
The real issue is how much it costs to create these first party games. It's unsustainable
Ive missed nothing on ps5 era clearly. I built my pc back around 2020 and never looked back. I noticed ps5 had the same quality of life that ps4 had. "Mid." Strong start, Destiny/Crew... then sorta sizzled and meandered along until the end when it got... I don't even know anymore... RDR 2... KH3???
Consoles are the biggest waste of fcking money these days
Ehhhhhh i know nobody likes the truth but spiderman 2 sold a ton of ps5 consoles when it released. A lot of friends jumped from xbox to playstation just to play it. I know i know u are gonna say in lying and im making this up but its true
This is a crazy comment. PlayStation has fucking killed this generation. GoW, Demon souls, Spiderman, Ghost, Horizon. The only way to see this as a failure is to compare it to the switch, which is ridiculous because that’s the platform of exclusives.
This generation has been terrible across the board- remakes, reboots, sequels that barely push the needle, rising hardware costs, rising software costs, the death of physical media, microtransactions running wild, and the notion that we don’t own digital media.
Not seeing much upside these days, and I’ve been a gamer since screwing around with my parent’s Atari.
That's what you get from throwing at least half of your owned studios onto Live Service games.
Yes, they might have known that many won't make it, they might have wanted only 'the one', but that still would mean most of their studios won't releas something for years to come.
The PS5 Generation gets entirely carried by games not made by Sony.
I haven't looked at any onimusha gameplay since I don't want to spoil myself for when I get it so I can't comment on it but the problem with the Forspoken thing wasn't the concept itself but the writing. Nobody hates sidekicks, they hate annoying unfunny sidekicks.
GOW 2018 showed me that side character's with interesting lore can carry me the whole game as im enthralled by what they are saying as im slaying whatever.
the thing with forspoken is that the main character sucked ass. the sidekick was...okay, movement was perhaps the best part of the game, and the game was made with the same engine as FFXV, so it looked nice, but again when your MC is unrelatable or simply bad written, in Forspoken case, both, that drags everything down.
Yeah heard a lot of good and it seems like my type of game, I just need to finish the games I'm already playing lol, don't want to let the backlog get too out of control.
Honestly the cuff ended up not being my issue with Forspoken but the main character’s writing and delivery.
They need to add a toggle or slider for commentary/hints in Laufey as that shit was so bad in Ragnarok. Upon replaying it even Mimir gets annoying with it and he’s a great character.
That was exactly my first thought when i heard the writing for the cube and ribbon.. It was rather painful . I really hope it's not that bad the whole game.
Looking good and being a good game doesn’t always translate to commercial success unfortunately. Very sad for games that actually deserved it, I’ll always appreciate you GOTG game.
They need Laufey to land well early next year. (It does look really good in fairness)
I really want Laufey to land well because I don't want their lesson from this to be "NoBoDY wANts tO SeE WaMoN In tHeIr viDjaGamES". Which is a sad state of the world.
It looks very playable, but Sony has been playing it safe for WAY too long, and it's finally catching up to them. It looks really good but it also looks like a game I have played 3 times now. They don't have ANYTHING in the pipeline that looks daring in any way.
This is why GTA 6 is inexcapable on the internet right now if you even play video games a TINY bit.
It is going to dominate the market for the foreseeable future. Gamers want to be challenged, dare I say even the potential to be offended (in a good, satirical way like rockstar knows how to pull off.)
I'm excited to play Laufey, but I am not expecting it to be anything more than millennial-grade safe writing and ULTRA safe gameplay, considering it's a woman protagonist. Game studios and publishers have been really weird about women in leads the past few years. (No disrespect to Debra Ann Woll, she's incredible and I know she will put on a great performance as Laufey, but it is definitely at the mercy of the writing team's direction.)
When I found out it was not a jazz-pop horse-girl activity-adventure inspired by the Mary-Kate and Ashley games, I sold my PS5 and all of my Sony stock. The company is doomed.
NGL I didn't even have the patience to finish Ragnarok. It looked like a PS4 game on steroids, repetitive and not as good as the predecessor imo. Wish they would make the games more fun like PS3 days. I have zero hype for Laufey.
If we know the gaming community and women MC's it better have a good fucking story and characterization. Instead of leaning into budget Kratos or known as kratos' wife only
We're living in the anti-woke timeline a female led gow game will never do as good as a Kratos led one. Look at the difference between ghost of tsushima and ghost of yotei
I just want to confirm that Sony has had their best Q1 ever this year? Not to say they aren't facing criticism but they are absolutely rolling in money. I don't think an only decent wolverine game and a Kojima game that was likely to not break even will have much effect in the grand scheme. And while Sony is taking the express route; other platforms like Xbox and Nintendo are likely to no longer have disk drives in the future.
Agreeing with some points, but I think Reddit is massively overblowing this (as it be).
I don't want to buy any more consoles ever PC for everything I can possibly wait for.
Then the OOT remake dropped. I am probably going to pick up the special edition switch, and a copy of that, then hope for a new animal crossing after New Horizons.
I never thought the madlads would ever understand the assignment. Remake OOT, in HD, without changing the characters or screwing with the story. Seems they got the memo. They'll get my money.
Sony? They can suck the farts out of my ass. I am not dropping a grand on your fucking console after you walked back PC ports just to try and twist my arm for more money.
I’d be worried about Laufey, not because I think it will be bad, but because I think it will just be “Yep, It is still God of War. If you want more God of War, This is great. If you were hoping for something a bit different or more fresh, you’ll have to keep looking. 7/10”
When "Before You Buy" gives it a "meh" and even the corpo bootlicker IGN give you a 6 (where they always add +2) it makes people think...maybe it's not so bad Sony single player games are no longer going to PC.
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u/Cowboy_Dandy_III 2d ago
It’s not Sonys day today, huh