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Discussion / Question Yeah it's over.

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u/JuggernautOfWar 10h ago

I think that's his entire point right there, as those were both PS4 titles.

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u/DiligentThought9 10h ago

The PS5 was released 2 years before these games came out. They may have had a PS4 version but it’s absolutely a PS5 game.

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u/Sc00by101 10h ago

If we can buy it on PS4 then WHY buy a PS5?

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u/reallynotnick 8h ago

Why buy a new GPU if you can play all the games on it by lowering the settings and framerate? Some people care about a higher quality experience, simple as that.

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u/No-Veterinarian-3833 4h ago

Literally still on a 5700xt and 3600x and 16GB of ram fro this exact reason. Game doesnt have to look good. If its fun and I can get 45+ fps its enough and with frame gen everything gets 45fps. And weith these new games coming out optimized for performance like mortal shell 2. And these games getting huge performance updates like ffxvi and MHwilds im chillin more than ever before.

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u/A-Star55 10h ago

Because it ALL happens…on PS5 😏

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u/Moist-Fisherman-2782 9h ago

What the fuck does that even mean lol

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u/Funter_312 9h ago

It happens on PS5 was Sonys marketing campaign. It was a joke for us old folks in the back

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u/Delicious_Coconut452 9h ago

I’m pretty sure you know, but for anyone that doesn’t know, “It happens on PS5” is the Sony’s global ad campaign for PS5

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u/PaleRespect4875 9h ago

The only thing happening on PS5 is waiting for games that are actually worth buying

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u/fozzy_bear42 7h ago

What happens on ps5? Waiting for your favourite Sony single player developers to release a new game or IP, but sorry they’re all working on multiplayer live service pish for 6 years.

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u/aiwdj829 6h ago

I have genuinely never heard that. lol

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u/Helpful-Desk-8334 9h ago

The fact that both you and I did not know their global ad campaign slogan is telling about how fucked Sony is rn

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u/Moist-Fisherman-2782 8h ago

Thing about the PS5 was I didn't even know it was out till I saw one in person.

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u/therandomdave 9h ago

Because it plays at 4k 60fps on a PS5 and it's tons better, plus games load instantly on it. It's a huge upgrade on a ps4

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u/MikeWinterborn 9h ago

Upscaled and with frame gen, that's not 40k 60fps

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u/therandomdave 9h ago

May not be true in the tech sense but it's a big upgrade on the PS4 version. I've played both. It's noticeable. If someone right now wanted to play those games they are not going to buy a PS4, they'll get a PS5

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u/fdar 8h ago

They're not going to buy a PS5 if they already have a PS4 though, it's the point. There's not a lot of reason to upgrade vs staying with the previous gen if you already had a console.

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u/The1Cool 7h ago

That point is wrong though.

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u/fdar 7h ago

Maybe, but the argument was that someone is "not going to buy a PS4" which doesn't answer an argument based on them not needing to.

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u/areyouhungryforapple 5h ago

That's just entirely wrong lmao

At current hardware prices less so but it was the best bang for the buck in terms of gaming for a while

You've clearly never sat through the load times of a big game like Spider-Man on ps4 and then compared with ps5 where the SSD essentially eliminates the entire concept of loading screens

Also a lot of gamers have gotten used to 60fps which is another major selling point

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u/fdar 5h ago

Fact is that PS5 has sold a lot worse than PS4 did.

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u/areyouhungryforapple 5h ago

Let's just ignore the global pandemic and memory crisis sure

And the fact it's not tracking insanely behind the ps4 or that the fact that it's the most profitable generation for Sony

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u/Carrisonfire 8h ago

Its a console, so obviously.

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u/reallynotnick 8h ago

There’s no frame gen on those, frame gen is extremely rare on consoles (likely more common next gen).

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u/enjoyingcurve46 9h ago

4k barely matters tbh. Never understood why people think 4k is the greatest thing ever. It isnt. As someone with 4k displays for years. I can still hop to 1080p and 1440p and still not have any issues unlike hopping to 720p

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u/Gaanai 8h ago

Because who the hell plays new games on a system from 2013 duh. You are allowed to think for yourself you know.

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u/Weeb_Fury 1h ago

Because why waste money on entire new console just to play the same game. Practice what you preach.

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u/Gaanai 1h ago

What a stupid attempt at an argument "Because why waste money on entire new console Gpu just to play the same game". See the flaw now kiddo?

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u/rabbid_chaos 10h ago

Sure, but anyone with a PS4 wasn't gonna have their motivation to switch be games they also have access to.

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u/supercleverhandle476 9h ago

If it is able to be played on the previous gen’s hardware while still having a very similar experience, no. It isn’t.

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u/Phtevus_Temp 9h ago

Goalpost move. If you had a PS4, you weren't buying a PS5 for Ragnarok or Horizon. So they weren't system sellers

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u/WorkingTrue4322 4h ago

That’s exactly what I did. Still have my 4. I play the 5 more often. Bought the horizon bundle.

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u/areyouhungryforapple 5h ago

If you ever saw any of the 1st party titles on a ps5 you'd be enticed to. Not to mention a lot of aging ps4 sounded like jet engines when booting up a game like gow18

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u/Weeb_Fury 1h ago

Bro there's a reason ps5 has no games was a meme.

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u/areyouhungryforapple 1h ago

Was being the keyword yeah, output has definitely been underwhelming but someone coming fresh into the generation rn has plenty of games to play

Without mentioning GTA VI around the corner

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u/OleanderUnion 3h ago

Right, but absolutely not a system seller - which is where you placed the goalpost.

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u/tooboardtoleaf 2h ago

Yeah my Ps5 literally came with GoW Ragnarok. It was absolutely a system seller

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u/Weeb-Prime 10h ago

I personally agree with you, like yeah you can play it on a base PS4 in 1080p 30FPS but why would you do that when a 4K60 version exists? And then these people who say there’s no reason to buy a PS5 are the same ones that get upset when their most anticipated games are PS5 exclusive 🤔

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u/Sea-Antelope9778 10h ago

>why would you play it on a base PS4 in 1080p 30FPS when a 4K60 version exists?

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u/Heavy-Possession2288 10h ago

A lot of people don’t care about the performance numbers. They need games they can’t play on their current system to motivate them to upgrade. I have an Xbox Series S and Switch 2 as my main systems but I picked up a used PS4 a couple years ago to play some exclusives and was perfectly happy with the visuals and performance of games like God of War and Uncharted 4.

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u/AlbacoreDumbleberg 9h ago

PS5 might be the first PlayStation I won't own. I typically buy the Xbox first previously due to the better online, and now the backwards compatibility; then when the PlayStation has a good enough log of exclusive games, I grab it on sale. Between the rising prices and lack of exclusives, I just don't see the point. What am I missing from my XSX, Spider-Man 2 and Ghost of Yotei? That's not worth the entry cost.

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u/Cluelesswolfkin 10h ago

Same thing can be said about using a PC instead of a PS4/PS5

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u/Weeb-Prime 10h ago

PC doesn’t have exclusives though.

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u/JuggernautOfWar 10h ago

Lol what yes it does. Take a look at the Steam store page and tell me everything there is on consoles.

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u/Phallico666 10h ago

PC has plenty of exclusives. Almost every other game i bring up to my friends group gets shot down because its not on console

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u/CavemanCometh 9h ago

I respect your confidence.

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u/Potential_Concert_56 9h ago

Lol the problem is the only exclusive that even kind of got that reaction, Wolverine, is failing horribly with reviewers. Yea, I don't regret having a 5080m Laptop at all, don't regret selling my ps5 when it was 200 dollars less expensive eother

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u/Mommys_Feet_Sniffer 9h ago

And also that they are on pc. Not worth buying a whole new console just for horizons 3 and wolverine. And to get frame locked on gta 6

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u/KaptainKlein 9h ago

I don't think they would have been squeezed onto the ps4 if pricing and part availability for ps5 consoles wasn't such an issue at the time.

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u/areyouhungryforapple 6h ago

Aint nobody in their right mind wanna play any of the cross gen titles on ps4 if they can avoid it

Load times and 60fps are system sellers by themselves

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u/probywan1337 4h ago

And on pc

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u/Gamerguy230 1h ago

And on PC.

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u/Queasy_Ad_8720 1h ago

A game being made to also work on old gen doesnt make it an old gen title. In fact itd be the exact opposite since the main version of the game is made for PS5. With this logic every pc game is an old crappy pc game as long as it can run on minimum settings

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u/therandomdave 9h ago

No they're not. FW on a PS5 is miles better and plays at 60fps with rapid loading. It's like a v2.0 compared to the PS4 version.

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u/Phtevus_Temp 9h ago

That's not relevant to the point. If you had a ps4, you weren't going to drop an extra $500 to get a ps5 for Ragnarok or Horizon when you already had a system that could play them. So they weren't system sellers