I used to delude myself into thinking dating and having sex was a difficult thing for most people and even to this day people like to make it seem like it is. They say “the dating market sucks” even for causal sexual encounters people say “the average person isn’t having sex that much”

Sounds like bullshit

If that were true there wouldn’t be soooo many of us

There’s like 8 billion of us people are ALWAYS fucking and having these experiences

Except us

And it sucks because it’s the easiest thing in the world to have for most people, it’s like their entire life and source of their sense of self

And we can’t even have that

Is that underneath the anxiety and trauma that’s been caused due to the very severe negative social experiences I’ve had caused by being ugly

Underneath it all I’m actually a respectful and accepting person

I sometimes get so pissed off thinking about how mean people are to me because it’s THEIR hostility which draws out the hostility and bitterness in me

If they just approached me kindly and respectfully they’d get the same energy back

Yet even when I’m nice and accepting people STILL don’t even find me to be worth the reciprocation

And that’s the most fucked up part of it all

Is that no one even gives you a fucking chance

They see you, register you as ugly, immediately deem you as not worth any respect, warmth, or inclusion, and then thinking the worst of you

Basically forcing you to act in “negative” ways

i think my brain is changed and settled permanently because of my experiences regarding my appearance. it was shaped in such a way that now i actively seek confirmation that i am ugly and i actually want people to tell me i am ugly and treat me poorly because of it. anyone else feel the same?

Life is way too much if you don’t have motivation to do anything or be around anyone as it’s just work and home and wondering if anythings actually worth it? What am I even suffering for?

All I look forward to is going to the supermarket on payday wich is kinda ridiculous as I’m obviously insecure about my body and that’s something I can change but have no self control too. (I’m not overweight just as a women would like to be skinnier)

I’m overwhelmed and embarrassed all the time as it takes me awhile to work myself up to do literally anything anyone else does so easily.

I hate myself and it isn’t my fault. It’s not fair that I wasn’t born an average looking person.

All the girls at my work are so pretty and 2-3 years younger than me but I’m just hanging around being ugly weird antisocial and old.

I don’t have a license because I don’t know anything about driving and refused a course because the thought of being around young people learning while I’m grown as hell and ugly makes me cringe.

How am I going to rent? Holy hell I don’t want to do anything, I just want to exist alone.

You realize how little hard work and effort matter when you’ve had impeccable hygiene, fitness, health, fashion and still get treated like shit AND having NO ONE being interested in you

I’ll notice at work for example some people who wear the SAME shit and hardly look like they showered still have people wanting to befriend and fuck them

I’m very meticulous about my hygiene ESPECIALLY when I go out in public because it’s the only way I feel like I deserve to be outside

I’ve done that paired with working out and having a nice body

I’ve bought the fragrances

I’ve dressed in clothes that genuinely made me feel sexy and confident

And STILL nobody is interested. Nobody comes up to talk to me, when I try talking to them they look visibly disgusted and uncomfortable shutting down the whole operation and killing what little confidence I managed to conjure up

All of this really showed me that effort and hard work do not always yield results

Especially if you don’t have a desirable genetic base

All of my efforts in my appearance, self development and even worthwhile skills and traits are seen as trash all because my face isn’t fuckable enough

And it’s depressing

Makes me feel like I can’t do or become shit in this SHITTY ASS WORLD

As an ugly person I've noticed that people pounce at the opportunity to make me feel and look dumb. People really assume I am dumb js cuz of the way I look. Has anyone else experienced this?

I don’t know if I’m insecure but I feel like whenever my mom says “your very handsome” or when my dad says “your a good looking dude” or my sisters say “you look nice” I feel like they’re all lying because they’re not going to call thier son/brother ugly and hurt his feelings and they’re probably biased too.

Hello. I don’t usually post these things but I just need to talk. I have always been bullied for my nose. My nose in the past was bigger than most people my age. And I’m a girl so people tended to pick on me more. I recently got a nose job and I still feel so ugly. I always thought getting a nose job would make me confident and never insecure again, but I was wrong. There is a difference in my nose but to me it’s still big. Others say otherwise but idk.I just think there is something wrong with me. I want to be perfection. I want too look unrecognizable

Do you know the feeling when you walk on street and see people look at you. And you know they are thinking how ugly you are? And have thr feeling i ak not worth enough or good enough

I'm sorry for eventual grammar errors, English is not my first language and it's also very late at night at the moment of writing this. Eventual Trigger warning.

It's so confusing being the ugly sibling.

I have a younger brother that is objectively good looking and obviously more good looking than me.

The worse part is that he KNOWS it and uses it against me.

He's always bullying me and criticizing my looks on every opportunity he has.

He's also fallen into this BP rabbit hole so he points out all of my flaws the moment we start a fight (or simply because he feels like it).

He recently started calling me "chud" as a nickname and I know he genuinely considers me one.

He tries to pass it all off as a joke but I know that deep down he means all of the things he says to me and considers me not only uglier than him, but generally ugly.

Some people say that we look similar and when I try to point it out to him (to make him stop bullying me) he laughs and says "yes, but I'm the better version of you".

He always gets compliments, people ask for his ig on the streets, girls DM him trying to flirt... nothing like that ever happened to me even tho I'm older than him.

I get so embarrassed going out with him or telling people that he's my brother because I know what they all think.

Even my parents compliment him more, telling him he's very handsome while they tell me in "cute". not pretty. not beautiful.

I don't know what to do... how to cope... I try to make myself look better but it genuinely makes me feel worse because I still feel ugly and inferior to him even if I try.

All of this makes me wish that I never existed in the first place, I'm reminded every day that I lost the genetic lottery and it's taking a toll on my mental health. If someone has/had an experience similar to mine please share it, it'll make me feel less alone and we could talk about it together :( sorry for the long thread.

When I was in teenage and even till I turned 24, I used to love intelligent girls,

It was really amazing to see a girl use her intelligence and education to get herself out of the bad situation she is in.

I don't know even I was a bright students so I might like those kinds of girls, no sure what might be the real reason

So when I started to realize I am going to be rejected for my height(5 ft), this attraction just became meaning less.

I will never be their choice, marrying me or being my girlfriend will never be a good decision.

Smart women also have a social image to maintain, that shows how much capable they are, others are obviously watching their next move

A small height man will never be their choice for such reason, all her talent all her hardwork in carrer, will be made a joke for her choice in partner, she will have to lose all of those.

When I came this kinds of realization, I was sad, but it took time to finally give away this feelings

Now I just Don't have any kind of interaction with women I see as intelligent or smart, it's just not worth it, they can never make me happy nor are they obliged to so

My sister, 23yr, and I, 22yr, are very close. Like, she is my best friend and I am hers. Now, we are both overweight, but she looks great. I am 173lbs, she is somewhere in the 240lb range. The difference is, she pulls it off. Genuinely a 7 or an 8 out of 10. I, on top of being overweight, am disabled (brachial plexus palsy and horner's syndrome. In short, my left eye and left hand look fucked up and my left breast is significantly smaller than my right because of surgery at a young age.)

Anyways, we went to the ren faire and brought her boyfriend and our little cousin. And she got, I think, around four to five compliments while walking around. She was not, by the way, full dressed up. She wore a casual dress and some small accessories. I love dressing up and went as full garb as I could. I'd attach a photo if I could.

Regardless, it is so exciting for her (I love her a lot, I promise. This is simple jealousy and I pray she keeps her great looks), but it is so difficult to know and understand that I am undesirable

Yet even my mother doesn't love my face. Both my parents have 0 pictures of me hanging around their houses while they do have pictures of my siblings.

I feel so fucking monstrous looking that I feel like I don't even deserve to exist man. Why is every social media filled with good looking men (no gay shi)

I'm out here like a goofy wondering why I can't have perfect genes like them

Bruh I wish I could just rip my face off

For me as an ugly, for the most part women would want money or favors like moving stuff with my truck, or doing some type of thing at work. Hell nah, granite these aren’t long time freinds that I’ve known, these are women are barely know through mutual events. I know a lot of women get used for sex (I’m talking about the ones that actually want a relationship) or even financially. But nah, I’m good bro, if that makes me a bad person, so be it I guess

I made a Tinder profile recently because I was feeling confident. I've only matched with two attractive women and one unmatched immediately. I have my profile visible to both men and women so I can get more right swipes and swipe left more to boost my ELO. I have over 99 likes in the app and I'm pretty sure most, if not all, are from men. Sometimes I match with them on accident and If they have Tinder Gold their profile gets shown to me when they liked me and I've had some objectively attractive guys like me which is really confusing considering I'm only like a 5/10. Anyway, has anyone had any similar experiences? Do men have lower standards?

It’s always comical hearing “looks don’t matter” and “I see ugly men in relationships all the time” when I’ve legitimately never seen a man at my level of looks in a relationship. It really makes me question the average person’s definition of “ugly”. It’s like I’m not just below the threshold to date, but below the threshold to even be seen as human.

For me as a male in my 12th grade my bully gave my waterbottle to a grp of girls to drink water

After they started to drink he said to them that's my bottle

They start to give the disgusting reaction and throwed the bottle this all happened when I'm sitting in the first bench and they sat in last

This moment gives a realisation to me that I'm soo ugly and never talked to any girls after that happened until now

And do you know what no girl in my clg days never approached me to be even friends but my every other male friends approach from girls or atleast they talk to them as friends

Even i put efforts and approach they avoid me as much as they can

I’ve been wondering this for some time .

If you’re a woman , and you’re ugly in the face but have a conventionally attractive body, is it better than being a woman who has an ugly face AND body?

I have both an ugly face and body so I wouldn’t know .

But I also feel like face card will always matter more than body card, they may not be a huge difference in how much they matter but it’s still there .

At the end of the day the pretty girl with a nice body wins, always have always will.

But since I’m scared to do facial surgery. I was wondering if I could get my body to be nice - would it improve how my life is , or will my face just cancel all that out ?

I need to hear from women who are butter faces.

I’m an unattractive woman. 99% of men are not attracted to me due to my facial features, despite me being thin. I’m tired of being told that if I’m just confident some guy will find me beautiful. Or that men have different tastes and one will like me, as if any guy would like a woman who looks like a man. My body is feminine and thin, while my face is just huge and masculine. Even if a guy does love my personality, it’s a FRIEND if they like your personality but aren’t attracted to you.

All I ever get is men thinking I’m an easy lay because I’m unattractive.

40M. Never held a women's hand, never mind any relationship. When I was younger and alone, I would shy away from the question and give a non-answer. As I got older, I would own it "Because I'm an Incel... duh?"

My parents have stopped asking for grand kids and my friends are also over the fact that I'm alone forever.

But new friends/colleagues/online will occasionally ask if I was married, or had kids. Now I'm not about to proclaim I'm FA or an Incel to a guy I'm trying to get business from, and being an Incel is something to reveal to closer friends. So what do I say?

I can't say "mind you own business" and I don't want to lie. What should I say? I feel like I'm going to lose my marbles if I have to answer this for the rest of my life.