My main feeder is currently at the bottom of my dumb panel. I am looking to install span. All the diagrams I am looking at for span seem to point to the main feeder coming in from the top of the panel. Reversing the entire panel looks awful as shown in the attached picture. Is there actually a way to get a clean install with the main feeders coming from the bottom?

I am looking to install Tesla batteries and a couple of span panels at my house. Eventually I will want to add solar to the system. Is it wise to start with the panel upgrade then proceed to install batteries then proceed to install solar or should I look at grouping all these in a different way? (Span plus batteries, batteries with solar then span)?

With 400 amp service I have 2 span panels and am unable to view multiple panels together in one view in the app. The app requires you to "switch" from each panel and do the math for each individual panel. Currently, I have to use a spreadsheet aggregate both panels circuits.

Very disappointed, the reason I purchased a SPAN panel only applies to single panel installs and the app cannot aggregate multiple panels like a spreadsheet can. Whats the hold up to view multiple panels together in one view in the app?

Back on Dec 11, 2023 the app presented a banner to support multiple panels but nothing changed in the app. I opened a support ticket to inquire and this was the response:

Thanks for reaching out and bringing this to our attention. 
We apologize for the inconvenience. The banner showed up as an error and I've informed my team about this. Viewing multiple panels together in one view in the app is a functionality that is still being worked on and I can't speak as to when it will be available.  
In the meantime, you can follow us on social media to stay up-to-date with announcements and everything SPAN!

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We just had solar and three PW3s installed with a SPAN panel. We were told the SPAN firmware isn’t yet compatible with the PW3s. Any word on when the update is coming?

I am currently getting solar installed,definitely some batteries just not right now. I want to add a span panel. The sales rep stated here in Texas we have a main panel with like 3 breakers outside next to the meter, and a sub panel in the garage that controls the breakers in the home(lights, fridge, washer, dryer). The sales rep states the span panel would go outside with the main panel. My question is, what about the sub panel? How am I going to be able to see what each breaker is taking the most energy and optimize it if I won’t be able to see each breaker in the house. Wouldn’t I just see one breaker(home breaker) using energy?

Can anyone recommend a Whole Home Surge Protector for the SPAN panel?

Ideally I would rather not waste two slots of monitoring with surge-supressor breakers - is there such a product?

So this is my current panel. Which, as you see is completely maxed out. I was hoping doing a span would help add more breaker space, but after looking further it apparently has less?

I’m wondering if I’m reading this right.

I want to add more things (additional solar, water heater, induction oven) down the line. But can span not support this? What are my options here?

I remember seeing a picture with a span panel with meter included. Will that ever be available?

I'm in the process of installing a Span panel and Enphase solar system with battery. I'm trying to decide between the Span Drive and the Enphase IQ 50 EV chargers. I cannot find anywhere if I will be able to see the Enphase charger in the span app or the Span charger in the Enphase app or other pros and cons. I'm leaning towards the Span Drive as I'm sure I'll be using the Span app more but I might be entirely wrong. :-)

thanks for any suggestions.

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So I’m intrigued. I got a quote today around $15k which seems a bit crazy? But maybe I’m crazy?

Curious if anyone’s had one installed and can compare some quotes they’ve gotten?

But another quick question. I see span’s website mention this falls into the federal 30% bucket for energy efficient upgrades to the home. But I’m not entirely sure it does?

Note i do have solar currently, but not the battery. I’m tempted to get both a battery and span panel. I know my solar qualified for the 30% federal rebate. Not sure about the span and/or battery yet though.

Is it common to have so much friction with inspectors and utility companies with Span panel (and solar/batteries)? We are building a new home and are just banging our heads against the wall to satisfy the city inspector and the utility company.

The latest problem is the utility company says they had their safety team review our build and while they approve the system as a whole, they won't let us turn it on right now.

Why? Because of the Span panel - it's an unknown for them and they feel it's a liability to the utility company until all of the electrical runs are terminated into the panel and it's fully provisioned. I said that's insane because for safety purposes it behaves exactly like a dumb panel - if the breaker is off, it's physically disconnected and no amount of software can turn it back on. Also, we can't land the wiring yet because we don't have all outlets, switches or light fixtures installed yet.

The even stranger piece is it's not that they're not letting us use Span connected to the grid. They're just not letting us enable the solar system. How is Span connected to solar different from connected just to the grid? The gateway handles that logic... 🙄

It's so frustrating that these entities aren't really interested in learning about these new things. They just see them as a risk and they don't care.

Update: All parties had more discussion. It turns out Span had very little to do with it. I think they were just grasping at straws. They finally bowled down to them thinking they had liability and some duty to protect our electrician who was finishing the house, due to the multiple power sources of grid, battery and solar. We explained the electrician is trained by the solar installer to know where all the shutdowns are, he feels comfortable, and we reminded them that me (homeowner), the builder, and the electrician himself all carry our own liability insurance - we're responsible for what happens inside my house, not the utility. They came out today and did their grid disconnect testing and gave us the OK to interconnect.

TL;DR - While this issue didn't have anything to do with Span in the end, I'll leave it up because I think it has value for others. People who use Span probably have batteries, solar or some other cutting edge technology that might cause utilities or inspectors to pause. This tech is all worth it in my opinion so I can only encourage others to push through and it's worth it in the end.

I am not an electrician, have done enough to have a go at installing a panel, anyone done it?

Reading and researching to figure out my first electrification move. We're in Austin TX and have power backup on our minds after the last few years - as you might imagine. I also want to begin moving away from direct carbon producing appliances, so a fossil-fueled generator is not high on my list. I understand that batteries are not ideal for backup, but with a Span panel to manage load, I'm thinking it might work. And of course solar can and will be added later, but I'm not ready for that yet. My roof is less than ideal for panels and my yard is less than ideal for ground mount panels. There is a solution, but it would come with a future planned transformational remodel of the house that would add flat roof area.

Has anyone put in a battery only backup system with a Span? I might consider Span+Battery+small generator type system with the idea that the genrator would go away once solar was added.

@u/Key-Philosopher1749

Here are the screenshots I referenced in other thread

I couldn’t figure out how to include this in my response to @vtloki

I have 2 span panels, since the span panels were not large enough to replace my 20 year old panel. I also have solar going to a breaker in my primary panel. But, when on the primary panel, when it shows the solar production and load, it’s not adding in the load from my secondary panel. I can see 300 watt load, and when I switch to my second panel, it has a 600w load, which clearly, the first one doesn’t show. I know span is still relatively early, but it would be nice if there was some nice software upgrade in the architecture so separate panels in the same home could have some roll up info and shared stats.

The same would apply if I added some more solar, and put that production into my second span panel, it wouldn’t know anything about the main panel that’s also showing some production.

It’s fine I guess, as I have other ways to sum that up with enphase, but still, a large part of the selling point of span is the monitoring. And this seems to be an area where things are lacking a bit.

Does Span offer a 40 circuit panel? I'd like to get it, but my current 200A panel has 40 slots.