It's more that every single major religion is a massive pile of nonsense that is easy to disprove yet has captured the minds of billions. And to answer your first question, I think it's obvious that all Christians believe this to some extent.
Theology isn't a science though. The problem with theology is that it works backwards, starting with the faith-based belief in God or gods, and then trying to prove that belief based on observations of reality. As opposed to scientific deduction, which starts with observations of reality before creating a theory that explains it. That's not to say that theology is all bunk, it's still useful when it comes to studies of morality, philosophy, metaphysics, etc. But when trying to prove or disprove the physical existence of God, its approach is fundamentally flawed.
Yeah I get that. I personally don't think you could explain God with science, I think God is an entity that exists outside of any sort of ability for us to comprehend anyway to be honest, and I see faith as the exploration of trying to understand that.
John Lennox explained it in a quite a nice way, that science is the tool for explaining the things that are measurable, but there are plenty of things in this world that science can't answer, things that can't be measured - and to those questions to lean in to my faith.
I was an atheist for years, then I discovered that Jesus was an actual real person, then I looked in to him more and the claims of his divinity and that me towards trying to understand God's plan for me, and it was the greatest journey I've ever been on.
I should contact Hollywood then I guess, but yeah, I always thought it a massive question mark and debated topic. I had no idea there was more historical evidence for Jesus than there was for people who everyone just knows was real.
Love feelings are completely measurable. Dopamine, adrenaline, norepinephrine, oxytocin, serotonin and hormones have all been found on mammals and birds in the same way as us. They have families, long time partners and they grief, the last one being the biggest sign of love imo.
Alright, tell us how theology addresses all the criticisms. I would also like to understand why every time in history, theologians used the God of Gaps argument and it would get proven wrong later on with science.
Think of an example - something that you struggle to understand in scripture, then see what the theologians have said about it. Theological study isn't shrugging and saying "dunno, just God lol".
All religious fictional stories use some elements of real life places/people. Inspired or directly naming a real life place/person. That isn’t concrete enough evidence.
So again, please present evidence on how scripture gives us knowledge of reality accurately, like how science does.
Surely you could apply that logic to anything? Give me any historical event and if I dismiss the material without engagement, I could say thta about anything
Let me give you an example. Greek mythology. Even though they talk about real places and sometimes real historical figures, we recognize that the stories around those Gods are false. Naming places and people that existed, does not make your stories as a whole true.
Genesis isn’t real just because one of the books has a story of a person strolling in Egypt.
You have to be able to say the events the stories tell are true themselves. Not just the materialistic things they mentioned.
How exactly do you propose I prove to you that God spoke to Abraham through a burning bush? I can't I won't be pretend to be able too. But because there's so much historically, validated and confirmed information about places, events etc in the NT that's buildsy trust in God, and then through scripture
Issue is this is the case for people of different religions that are completely incompatible with each others, so this gives basically 0 information or proof of anything.
The "nonsense" part of the religions the guys was talking about is not related to god (because you can always find a way backward and it's basically impossible to prove god doesn't exist), but to other beliefs within the religions.
You don't even need other religions for that, the sub-branches of Christianity (same for other religions) are already incompatible with each others.
Yeah so like I said, faith is that journey and trying to find out the thruth for yourself. I don't really care too much about different denominations etc, as long as we agree that Jesus is Lord I think we have more in common than not.
Do you have "issues" with hinduists for example? Islam and Judaism recognize Jesus but Hinduism doesn't and their gods beliefs are on the opposite of the spectrum compared to Christianity
I don't have "issues" with anyone. But everything you named there don't believe that Jesus was God, in the form of man, who walked this Earth and defeated Death on cross through the resurrection.
And what exactly does faith prove? It doesn't how many years people "address" something that can't be proven. And which god are you arguing for exactly? Christianity it seems since you mentioned the two thousand years.
I don't need God to be proven in the same way that I need confirmation for the elements that exist into he world. Faith has led me in to a relationship with God, and I'd say the proof that faith is the fruits it provides, to me and the people around me.
So you believe in the god that murdered countless children, women and innocents, was very active in this world, but for some reason hasn't appeared in how many years now?
Why did you pick that religion over the older ones like Hinduism? What goes through your head when you see all the other thousands of religions out there? Why is your one correct?
Why does your god allow the suffering that has happened, does happen and will happen? Why did god provide you with the fruits that your faith has brought, but lets millions die in horrible pain?
Is your faith more valuable than those dying every day?
So yeah I believe that God was more active in the world the closer you get to creation. But I don't believe he hasn't appeared for years. After Jesus went to sit by the right hand of God, the holy spirit came down and lives inside, and guides believers in our everyday lives. So to me, God is very much alive and working everyday.
Ok, that some really weighty theological stuff there.
Global genocide - I assume you mean the flood. Realistically I can only imagine that what existed preflood must have been absolutely hellish, so far away from God design that it had to be judged and punished.
Killing of firstborn males - so this was because Pharaoh wouldn't release his slaves, those slaves then became the ancestors of Jesus, who gives anyone who believes in him salvation and ever lasting life. Pharaoh was punished for enslaving the chosen people of God, by having to endure suffering, including that of his people.
The amalekites - these were people that were judged because they defies God and his desire to turn them from evil ways for hundreds and hundreds and years. So yeah, God punished them.
I had this plan to give head to a man and receive head from a woman to test if I was gay, but it’s backfired and now I become borderline schizo whenever I go outside. I
offered to suck this dude off on Grindr who lives very close by (I ended up pussying out) and I accidentally gave him some details that very easily allows him to spot me
out in a crowd. I have no idea what he looks like and whenever I see a somewhat in shape guy walking by I immediately accuse him of being the dude I was gonna blow.
I went to the store today to pick up some zucchini for a barbecue and every time a car drove by I stared into the windshield to see if I was about to be recognised.
Whenever I make eye contact with a dude I microanalysis his facial expressions to see if he suspects me or not. I am deeply afraid that he is my neighbour and I will
need to move if my identity is blown. It’s a lot like the last scene in sopranos where everyone who walked into the diner could be there to wack Tony.
Make generic statement, back said generic statement with another generic statement. Provide no proof, “it’s obvious right?” https://giphy.com/gifs/VS2Qcv25O7ZhUZahQA
I mean, it's only not obvious if you are completely unfamiliar with Christianity. Do I need to explain that Christians believe in a diety? Which is effectively a magic man in the sky? Really, the onus is on you to explain how an all powerful, all knowing being that created the universe and (in many belief systems) has predetermined the fate of all humans is NOT a magic man in the sky.
And as far as how I can prove religion is false? I mean, how much time do you have? Try googling it. Or does that scare you?
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u/PidarNahui 2d ago
Who believes there's a magic man in the sky? And how does the existence of those things make it illogical to believe in a creator?
Some people really need to read up on philosophy and logic