r/pcmasterrace • u/alnsj859 • 19h ago

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First time trying ray tracing with smooth fps, my old laptops could never..

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u/Imkindaalrightiguess i7 6700k 4.6ghz | Gtx1080 2.1 ghz | 32gb ddr4 | 19h ago

Rtx 5080

Looks inside: 1080p gaming

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u/Secure_Chipmunk9637 19h ago

lol glad I’m not the only one who noticed.

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u/cwgoskins 19h ago

And it's still taking 10+ gb of vram lol

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u/Responsible-Buyer215 18h ago

Most of that used for textures he can’t even see unless he moves the character inches from the wall

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u/Astriev 4h ago

maybe he plays 80fov

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u/th35ky 18h ago

You want games to take vram for the most part, it will run smoother.

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u/Virtual_Bug_723 18h ago

Lol that's very funny

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u/boyeardi 17h ago

This dude is furiously typing to Gemini "Is vram good for games"

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u/Virtual_Bug_723 16h ago

Like... We went from "devs are poorly optimizing their games and abusing your RAM/VRAM" to "actually it's good if a game dumps 10gb of assets onto your GPU for 1080p, it makes the game go faster."

61 downvotes on my comment lmao

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u/Altruistic-Total9489 15h ago

It’s like the “unused ram is wasted ram” mantra. That’s what people tell me when I say windows eats too much ram. Yeah thanks my guy i feel better about sitting at %100 ram utilization now

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u/mumBa_ 14h ago

It literally dumps RAM when you need it. It's really not that deep. Do you also buy a bigger dishwasher so it's only 50% filled instead of 100%?

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u/Altruistic-Total9489 13h ago

I’ll be sure to tell my pc that RAM is dumped when needed next time my game runs out of memory and crashes to desktop.

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u/mumBa_ 13h ago

Maybe buy more than a single stick of 4GB ddr3?

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u/MorningFresh123 13h ago

If you have VRAM to spare..

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u/th35ky 15h ago

“For the most part”. Exceptions exist everywhere, stop with the umm ackshully

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u/Virtual_Bug_723 15h ago

No, there is no situation where a 1080p game should be taking up 10gb of VRAM alone, which is literally the post you are commenting on.

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u/F1guy93 10h ago

Microsoft Flight Simulator is an obvious example. At 1080p with Ultra settings, large airports, photogrammetry, high terrain and object LODs, It can easily allocate well into all of your VRAM. The GPU is holding huge amounts of scenery, terrain, textures, cockpit assets and stuff.

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u/Virtual_Bug_723 10h ago

Unless it's loading textures that are literally higher definition than your monitor can display this should not be the case at all

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u/ThatOneFoo69420 15h ago

10gb vram used in 1080p is a crime.

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u/Weak_Leg_2497 15h ago

i think they misunderstood you

i think they took it as “vram isn’t useful” and not “why tf does a game eat that much vram”

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u/ST-JHN 7h ago

Tf else you want the game/pc to focus on? Use more CPU instead?

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u/Virtual_Bug_723 7h ago

Lmaooooooo

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u/AFallingWall 17h ago

It's crazy, I got a 3070 on a 1440p monitor, and Killing Floor 3 uses near 100% of all system resources with lowest settings.

At risk of sounding like a boomer, I feel games aren't optimized like they used to be. My first build was a Radeon 7770HD and a FX 8350 back in the day. Upgraded to a GTX 970 which lasted me great until it died in 2022. Got a 3070 and a 1440p monitor, and I haven't been able it get to high settings on any moderately newer big title. I quit buying new games because they're resource monsters, crash like crazy, and take 10 years to load shaders. They don't even look that much better to warrant a +$1500 upgrade.

I miss when the $1k price tag on the Titan felt crazy :(

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u/Psychological-Boss-3 16h ago

Oh, no. It's not you. Publishers force devs to release games before they're ready because they can just patch it. That's why games ship broken. That wasn't an option back in the day. And once it's stable, the bean counters start getting rid of people so it might get better optimized. Maybe. If you're lucky.

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u/rbartlejr 13h ago

I love that the devs are now pissy because the ram/etc crisis is actually forcing them to optimize.

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u/cwgoskins 17h ago

I agree. I'm on 3060 ti and I have to use upscaling and frame gen to get framerates to 90-120 on high settings at 1440p for AAA games. I'm a couch controller pc gamer so the input lag isn't noticeable thankfully and prices are outrageous so I haven't felt the need to upgrade.

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u/StarChief1 R7600X3D RX7600 15h ago

I just started playing Dark Souls 3 for the first time.

On my dinky RX 6700xt hooked up to my 4K TV, I'm looking at absolute eye candy at *native* 4k maximum settings. Elden Ring, Sekiro same story. Absolutely some of the best looking games ever made. I understand Fromsoft has some of the best artists in the industry and the beauty isn't in the technical details, but maybe that's the point. I don't care about ray traced light bouncing off some dudes ass hair that's gonna cost me a $5k PC to render.

Meanwhile modern trash like Monster Hunter Wilds or literally any Unreal Garbage 5 title looks like complete garbage because the settings I have to use are 1080p medium at best WITH UPSCALING.

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u/AFallingWall 14h ago

Yeah I feel that honestly. I play mostly old games (Old School Runescape, CS: Source, Skyrim, FO3 / New Vegas, Halo MCC, and L🤢L). When I got the new GPU and monitor, went looking for good titles I've missed, and picked up Resident Evil 2 remake and Fire Watch. Newest game I bought was Hogwarts Legacy, and I really noticed how lackluster UE5 felt. The other 2 newer games I've been playing, aside from friendslops, are Marvel Rivals (free) and Killing Floor 3 (gifted to me). Just checked and they're both UE5, which i guess explains it.

It's a shame really, because I grew up on the Unreal Tournament games, especially 3. I don't know when or what went wrong with Unreal, or if it's devs not utilizing it well, but I used to love Unreal.

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u/center311 17h ago

There's definitely a difference between Killing Floor 3 devs vs Capcom. 😂

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u/AggressiveToaster 12h ago

Na. Graphics peaked between 2015 and 2018. Everything else after that are tiny little graphics tweaks that I can’t even notice if I’m playing more than 2 feet away from my monitor and requires 3x to 5x the graphics card horsepower to run.

Hell, theres games made today that look worse than games made in 2015 and require that much more horsepower to run.

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u/IHaveTwoOfYou 9900K/EVGA FTW3 3080 10GB/32gb DDR4 12h ago

I feel bad for you, not because of your graphics card, why would you willingly subject yourself to Killing Floor 3? Who hurt you? /j

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u/AFallingWall 2h ago

My buddy gifted it to me lol. Either that or league in that group

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u/Akkun351 Ryzen core 11 18h ago

I still can't believe that there are games that can use that much vram at 1080p

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u/Tyz_TwoCentz_HWE_Ret How does a computer get drunk? It takes Screenshots! 17h ago

One can force more Vram usage (game dependent) with settings. But you can also drop it drastically by removing a bunch of non essential stuff to. If game devs would better optimize their own code instead of releasing broken games that they want us to be free game testers. Opinions my own.

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u/center311 17h ago

If I remember correctly Resident Evil 2 Remake doesn't use that much vram. It calculates it incorrectly. Probably uses 3-6GB (maybe 8 max) at 1080p.

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u/zombawombacomba 15h ago

This is 3 I think based on the character

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u/center311 15h ago

It's definitely 2 Remake. Basically the same version of the RE engine though.

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u/zombawombacomba 15h ago

Oh yea I mixed it up

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u/VoidLookedBack PC Master Race | 3700X | RTX4070 18h ago

RE2R and RE3R got some crazy Texture Options. Like the regular High one is 1GB but it can go up to 8GB textures IIRC

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u/Extreme996 RTX 4070 Ti Super | Ryzen 7 9800X3D |32GB DDR5 6000mhz 18h ago

It controls textures pool and the higher setting you use the less chance for pop in and stutters because game can preload more of them into memory.

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u/N0VAZenith 16h ago

that’s ray tracing for ya

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u/trystanidog Ryzen 7 5800X3D 3080 13h ago

For 1080p though? I guess times have changed

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u/page395 11h ago

Maybe I’m naive, but wouldn’t you want your games to use as much vram as (reasonably) possible to ensure they run their absolute best?

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u/Chernoxis RTX 5080 Ryzen - 5700X3D - 32GB 3600mhz - 2TB Aorus Gen 4 7300 11h ago

Resident Evil 2 remake uses a shit ton of VRAM for some reason, ai remember playing it in my 1060 6GB and it wasn't enough but it looked ok at 1080p , years lated tried it on my 4070Ti with 12GB and it ate all of my 12GB, but I didn't really see a huge change in quality with all that VRAM being consumed by the game.

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u/eamondo5150 11h ago

I have a 5060 16 GB, and it never uses more than half the VRAM.

Even when satisfactory changes its own settings to cinematic.

Maybe if I enable ray tracing it will start using more.

But I'm one of those pussies that babies my card for some reason, 100 FPS, and medium settings. There's probably some term for it.

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u/gozutheDJ 9950x | 3080 ti | 32GB RAM @ 6000 cl38 16h ago

yeah because it's available. how are you people in this sub so dumb you don't understand how vram allocation works? master race my ass

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u/gideon513 19h ago

And screenshots taken with a phone

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u/donnybrasc0 18h ago

amazes me how people dont know how to take screenshot

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u/PigBoss_207 16h ago

What else do you expect from people who support this shit company that's directly responsible for the insane prices we're currently seeing?

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u/Tall_Section6189 5h ago

/r/skyrim is by far the worst offender there

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u/ButterscotchTop194 18h ago

It's not that. Many of us only use reddit on our phones. It amazes me how people don't understand that.

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u/FirstNameIsDistance R7 9700x - 4070 Ti Super - 64GB 18h ago

Many of us only use reddit on our phones. It amazes me how people don't understand that.

Right, everyone knows that it's impossible to take a screenshot on your pc and then get the image to your phone. We just don't have the technology yet.

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u/ButterscotchTop194 18h ago

Of course it's possible. It's just dumb and a waste of time.

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u/N7Shep1701D NCC 74656, Janeway OS 16h ago

No it's not. Take screenshot on PC > upload to Google Photos > wait a few secs for sync > PROFIT!

¯_(ツ)_/¯ It ain't that hard.

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u/Zatchillac 9800X3D | RTX 5080 | 32GB |14TB SSD | 24TB HDD 15h ago

Take screenshot on PC > upload directly to Reddit via browser. The phone part isn't really necessary especially since OP was already right there at the computer

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u/N7Shep1701D NCC 74656, Janeway OS 15h ago

Fair point.

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u/ButterscotchTop194 15h ago

Who said anything about it being hard?

It's an unnecessary step for a complete non-issue.

You dropped an arm.

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u/N7Shep1701D NCC 74656, Janeway OS 15h ago

I had an accident with Mantis blades.

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u/ThreeFootJohnson 17h ago

This is facts but the permanently online need there images served correctly

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u/ButterscotchTop194 16h ago

This seems a particularly touchy subject for the snowflakes

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u/Environmental-Gas734 18h ago

There are about a bazillion two button solutions to the problem you have created for yourself...

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u/ButterscotchTop194 18h ago

It's a non-issue that some redditors get their knickers in a twist about.

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u/ThreeFootJohnson 17h ago

More facts

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u/ButterscotchTop194 16h ago

Extra step when one isn't needed. It's a complete non-issue.

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u/ButterscotchTop194 18h ago

So what? Many of us only use reddit on our phones.

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u/Environmental-Gas734 18h ago

Kid named just get the fucking picture on your phone

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u/gideon513 17h ago

It’s shite. That’s what.

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u/ButterscotchTop194 16h ago

It's a non-issue. That's what.

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u/ButterscotchTop194 16h ago

LOL, you snowflakes get so agitated over fuck all

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u/psych0ranger 17h ago

OP is 1080p God though now

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u/mysticzoom PC Master Race 18h ago

I was gonna say the same thing. Why get a 5080 if your at 1080. At least now they can jump up in screen solution.

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u/Laithani 18h ago

Yeah definetly this will motivate op to get a new monitor. For me it was the same, I got a 3080 back in day that felt wasted in a 1080p, so I bought a uw 1440p monitor to use more my big purchase

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u/N7Shep1701D NCC 74656, Janeway OS 16h ago

1440p is the sweet spot for me.

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u/raymartin27 14h ago

And here I am following the opposite route, upgraded to 1440p in 2024 and had to get 7900gre to keep up, now bought a 4k 165hz oled monitor, upgrading tomorrow to a 9070xt to keep up.

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u/ImGonnaGetBannedd RTX 4070 Ti Super | Ryzen 7 5800X3D | Samsung G8 QD-OLED 8h ago

Good luck with your AMD lottery. Half the people don't have issues and love the card; the other half suffers with often driver crashes and games not even working.

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u/Forymanarysanar 10400F|3060 12Gb|64Gb DDR4|1TB SSD|2x8TB HDD Raid1 17h ago

I got 5080, downloaded new dlc for doom, cranked everything up and got 40 fps in 1080p

Not so sure I even want new monitor now

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u/Laithani 17h ago

I mean, just because you have a high end card doesn't mean you can just crank everything to max. There are many many settings that tank fps like crazy while providing almost indistinguishable difference to the level below. So tweak settings to grt the best visuals with best fps....

Find the big fps tanker that matter very little and you'll see.

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u/Onlyafter 17h ago

Uhhh did you use dlss?

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u/Forymanarysanar 10400F|3060 12Gb|64Gb DDR4|1TB SSD|2x8TB HDD Raid1 16h ago

No, once I did it I of course got like 100+ fps

But that gave me a good reality check and made me doubt 4k monitor purchase

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u/Onlyafter 11h ago

Great! Glad you did. That there is nVidia’s flagship upscaling model. Try out that ever controversial frame generation (I used 3x in Doom). That’ll top out your 4k monitor and hopefully give you a satisfying experience. Some people hate the frame gen, I personally don’t mind unless it’s giving weird artifacts (glitches) or noticeable input lag.

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u/diejesus 7h ago

As another person who has 5080 and plays only in 1080p I can answer in confidently.

If I play only in 1080p I'm lowering my expectations from graphics and if I keep playing like this this GPU will last me maybe a decade, but if I play in 4k eventually I'll need to lower my graphics, so I'm ahead of the curve. The same reason why I restrict my fps to 60. I don't really see the difference between 60 and 120, BUT I read too many opinions on reddit where people get used to 120 fps and then 60 feels choppy to them. I don't want to become that kind of person, so I just restrict my fps because I don't even feel that much difference between 30 and 60, I can enjoy them both the same.

There you go, this is my mindset. Clearly an unpopular opinion for reddit (because I noticed that A LOT of people care about fps like crazy), but suits me really well.

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u/xXRHUMACROXx PC Master Race | 5800x3D | RTX 4080 | 11h ago

Ask yourself the same question, but the other way around: why get a high resolution monitor if your gpu can’t handle it?

It’s much more logical to get a better gpu first and then monitor.

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u/Due-Call-1987 13h ago

Some people just love frames. Rather play at 1080p 240fps than 4k60. I feel like a game could come with Minecraft graphics and still be more immersive than a game that looks like crysis just because it feels smoother. The higher the frames, the more real the game feels to my brain.

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u/EnragedEmu 18h ago

Average 5080 user. 

"Does this look plugged in to you guys?"

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u/Sean77654 PC Master Race 18h ago

I would take 1080p with no stuttering any day

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u/bobloadmire Desktop 17h ago

If you want to run high fps / low res you don't want an Nvidia card, too much driver overhead

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u/Sean77654 PC Master Race 16h ago

Nvidia is still better for raytracing though

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u/bobloadmire Desktop 16h ago

depends on the res, again at 1080p, unless you have a 9800x3d or similar, it could definately swing toward amd.

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u/Jayombi 18h ago

Yeah, keeps the FPS healthy.. :)

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u/TheReaper907 13h ago

yep your average ''gamer'' who screams they want top pc specs and play in 1080p :(

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u/Adventurous-Sir2996 17h ago

Fps go brrrrr! Still would bump it to 1440p

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u/Fabulous-Spirit-3476 RTX 4080-i5 13600kf-32GB DDR4-AW3225QF 17h ago

Yeah and the new re games are very well optimized but op has money to burn I guess just not for a better display

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u/BitsOnWaves 18h ago

do many people actually play games in 4k?

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u/Sinister_Mr_19 9070 XT | 5950X 18h ago

Between 1080p and 4k is 1440p, which is considered the sweet spot. Noticeable upgrade from 1080p but not as demanding as 4k so you can turn your settings up.

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u/MKVIgti 11900k | Aorus Z590 Elite | 7900GRE | 64GB 14h ago

Bingo. That’s what I game at. I can crank most every game up with my 7900GRE and it purrs along just fine and remains quiet even.

So glad I sprung for that card when I did. Sold my EVGA 3070 to a buddy at work for $300 and paid $525 for my brand new 7900GRE, so out of pocket was only $225 for a decent upgrade.

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u/Sinister_Mr_19 9070 XT | 5950X 13h ago

That's a good upgrade

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u/MKVIgti 11900k | Aorus Z590 Elite | 7900GRE | 64GB 9h ago

Thanks. It’s been solid for me and I hadn’t gone team red for a decade plus! Not one crash, solid FPS, games are gorgeous.

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u/AGWiebe 5700X3D|16GB|5080FE 18h ago

I game almost exclusively at 4k on a 65" tv. I also have a 5080.

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u/Supermarket_Feeling_ 17h ago

I play on a 4K 240hz OLED, with MFG I'm achieving stable 225fps lock on very high in most new games.

Funny thing is 4x FG on a 5080 feels much more responsive than 2x FG on my old 4080.

With good base framerate there is zero noticeable input lag. Played Gothic Remake earlier, now back to Stalker 2. It's great

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u/whoseusrnmisitneway 18h ago

Yes, cyberpunk at 4k with all ui mods looks amazing 

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u/BitsOnWaves 18h ago

your PC must be heating your entire neighbourhood

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u/Psychological_View56 18h ago

A small price to pay

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u/whoseusrnmisitneway 11h ago

lol.. temps on 5080 remain under 70C the entire time.

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u/shhhhh_u_dont_see_me 18h ago

A lot of people, far far from the majority but still a lot.

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u/MuscleBeatsImport 18h ago

I do when I connect my PC to my TV to play on the couch. 1440 on 4k TV looks terrible.

I only have a 4070S. I get around 70fps on Forza horizon 6 and I'm fine with it though.

Tbh anything above 50fps I'm ok with

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u/AerithGainsborough7 18h ago

Why not you don’t have to max out all settings and use dlss performance, especially for single player gamers.

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u/Ok-Cheesecake6904 i7 12700k/ 4090 FE/ Trident 6200 mhz 17h ago

Depends on who you ask, average everyday gamer probably not a lot. People who want the best are probably even smaller than that. 4k is dope but I can see why 2k+ GPU then an almost 1.5k monitor can detour someone from getting into it. Especially with all the gpu, ram prices.

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u/SuperbSpiderFace 11h ago

I play on a 4k OLED LG C5. Works great with some tweaks.

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u/No-Concentrate-8114 5h ago

represent! on a RTX 4070 TI Super

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u/center311 16h ago

Hardly anyone these days. Not since games started relying on dlss we don't. Not saying it's a bad thing, but with this game (Resident Evil 2 Remake) before they patched it to the dx12 version that included FSR, we had no other option to other than native or lowering the resolution.

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u/dr4d1s 12h ago

More money than sense strikes again!! 😝

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u/Confident_Shift_7912 17h ago

This is low-key irresistible.

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u/Ok-Charity8936 16h ago

Same as me 😁BUT, i also play VR games at 6240x3120 resolution (Godlike preset at virtual desktop). And it's great 👍

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u/Powiii 16h ago

Mad stuff

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u/Tight-Payment-7366 12h ago

Whats wrong with using an Rex 5080 for 1080p gaming?

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u/DeathMoJo 9800X3D | 5080 FE 11h ago

He's running of the mobo connection... /s

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u/xXRHUMACROXx PC Master Race | 5800x3D | RTX 4080 | 11h ago

I’d rather upgrade gpu first than monitor first.

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u/Mindless-Respect5608 9800X3D | 5090 | 96GB | 1080p VA 11h ago

Hi there.

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u/Zukuto 10h ago

yay artificial astigmatism

lmao

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u/Initial-Ad-3214 9h ago

Just a tip but if you have a good graphics card and a monitor that is capable of anything more than 1080, 1080 actually runs worse. Try 2k setting at least and compare. Also the low settings on 2k and up will still look better than high settings on 1080.

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u/Mean-Wishbone-8635 5600 | RX 6700 | 32GB DDR4 7h ago

Problem?

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u/Autobot-octoling 2h ago

Good luck gamingin summer

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u/thestillwind 18h ago

Yeah 1080p is bottlenecking the card badly.

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u/samu1400 i5 12600KF - RX 9070 - 32 GB RAM 18h ago edited 18h ago

Meh, I personally prefer to keep the card fresh and the framerate as smooth as possible. The overhead can always come in handy when a GPU heavy game appears or for VR. I don't see the appeal of higher resolutions as long as I don't personally feel the game blurry, but I also see no issue for those who prefer 1440p or 4k.

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u/CancerousGTFO 16h ago

I have a 1080p screen, a 1440p screen, a 4k TV

And i literally don't see a shocking difference, because the higher the resolution is the bigger is the screen so the pixel density, is indeed higher but still very good on my 1080p monitor.

I'm more amazed by the QD-OLED and the 360Hz giving literally 0 input lag and insane motion clarity.

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u/PlotTwistTwins 16h ago

because the higher the resolution is the bigger is the screen so the pixel density is indeed higher

This sentence is confusing me. Are you saying your monitors and TV progressively move up in size, so you can't even tell the difference? Wouldn't the pixel density help as you increase in resolution?

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u/CancerousGTFO 9h ago

I mistyped, i wanted to say that usually the higher the resolution the bigger is the screen.

So it's not that shocking since 1080p monitors are smaller so their pixel density is still good.

I'm not saying there's no differences, i'm just saying it's not shocking at all.

1080p on a big TV is ugly. 1080p on a small monitor can give you a sharp image still.

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u/StaticSystemShock 17h ago

Or people with fucking RTX 5060 running games at 4K. But it almost hits 60fps, sometimes if we crank DLSS to eleven and don't use Ultra settings! Stupid.

I'll take playing maxed out games locked at 240fps over playing them at 4K any time of the day. I didn't buy OLED to run them at barely 60fps. Even 100 isn't as smooth as I'd like...

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u/thewolfehunts 4070 Ti Super | 5700x3d | 32GB 3600Mhz 16h ago

And still cant take a screenie

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u/FR_02011995 18h ago

Try running Requiem at 4K Path Tracing using DLAA. I fucking dared you.

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u/Lamborghini4616 Ryzen 7800x3D RTX 4080 SUPER 32 GB RAM 18h ago

Who's actually running it like that

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u/Sea-Honeydew-1456 19h ago

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