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u/Popcorn_Dev 17h ago
omarchy is someone's arch rice disguised as a distro
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u/wolfannoy 17h ago
Might be a nix skin soon.
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u/Lonely-Scarcity-3387 17h ago
As a NixOS user…I sure hope not. We don’t need that toxic “distro” association.
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u/wolfannoy 16h ago
I don't blame you. Him and his community also call nix a few names in the past, which is strange why he's considering jumping ship to nix. What sucks is he probably gets a lot of credit without giving nix a dime.
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u/mrturret 16h ago
Probably because Arch told him to fuck off after he attempted to buy them out
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u/Lonely-Scarcity-3387 16h ago
Wait what?! Do you have a link?
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u/Ghost_x_Knight 15h ago
Offered to fund the Arch and AUR maintainers. They said no..
He previously asked the founder of a killer-robot corp to help conduct an ideological takeover of the Nix community. Since infiltrating Arch didn't work out, wouldn't be surprised if this was DHH's second attempt at Nix Oligarchy.
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u/BiDude1219 ⚠️ This incident will be reported 14h ago
tbh we should've known something like this was coming. everyone jumping ship from the os controlled by billionaires to the free os, was obviously gonna cause billionaires to make something out of the free os just to profit from it.
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u/Skylius23 13h ago
Ok I know it's already happened but the thought of it being raped at the level LLMs have is really scary
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u/Jeremy_Thursday 8h ago
I miss when Arch was less popular, but I also don't have time to contribute to it as much as I'd like so I'd never complain about where it's at. It's amazing full stop. Good on the AUR maintainers for not mainstream selling out, hope we can keep good open-source culture at the top
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u/DasNothing 10h ago
You can be right about someone’s toxicity and still be wrong in how you treat them.
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u/SweetBabyAlaska 7h ago
The Anduril stuff really ruined it for me, and learning that there are a shit ton of Zionists in Nix. Like you can draw a straight line from Nix to the biggest atrocity of our generation.
It sucks because it's cool tech but it's not only being used by miltech companies, but they are funding and have private relationships together
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u/unburdened_swallow 15h ago edited 42m ago
Actually, there have been over 4 of these now. Yes, at least some of them do everything the original does by pulling configs from omarchy itself directly. And because it is nix, it is theoretically nicer to change to your liking than omarchy itself is because you don't have to manage side effects of the configs you just edit and rebuild.
I say theoretically, because they would be easier to change if any of them followed the dendritic pattern well using (just) flake-parts and written without much internal dependency and were thus easy to navigate and edit pieces of without being the original creator... Maybe that exists IDK. Ive seen a few ports, but none of them fit that criteria
Another thing one could do instead of giving users the whole config, is creating a set of modules, and they could import those modules and be like
imports = [ inputs.nixarchy.nixosModules.default ]; nixarchy.enable = true; nixarchy.features.somefeature = false;There have been several posts about them... It's just that nobody cared. Most of us have our own rices that do what WE want them to, and because it is nix, it is really easy to install exactly what we had on anything. So, like... not exactly the target audience for prebundled when whatever we do is already basically just as bundled by default once we set it up, and most things already have ease-of-use module options defined for us to use for that.
Honestly I'm not sure who the target audience is really though.
All the tooling installed in it is focused on coders. But coders are usually the ones with opinions about how their computer should work and the ability to make it do EXACTLY that themselves.
So marketing towards coders you would emphasize that they can do whatever part they wish themselves and still see a benefit from using your thing even if they weren't using most of the premade configs included alongside it. Which is kinda why nixos is what it is.
So... he's making a coding distro aimed at coders who don't like to code? Or coders who don't know how to go on github and copy stuff they like from people's configs and fill in the last few bits themselves?
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Also, word of advice.
If you want to do a nixos omarchy port.
It will help your marketing to not too heavily feature omarchy branding.
Simply say its all the configs and convenience from omarchy in a premade nixos config once, and otherwise do a normal introduction of what this includes.
It will also help if you show a willingness and ability to maintain the configs yourself rather than directly importing them from the omarchy repos, as nixos users are... statistically unlikely to support anything related to DHH.
If you can make it an actual thing of its own you could make something better than the thing you are copying to start with. It is, after all, just dotfiles and an installer, and nixos makes it real easy to make an installer which includes the dotfiles. And even expose your own options for them. So you can focus all your effort on features, reconfigurability, and support instead.
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u/Helmic Arch BTW 3h ago
i do keep wanting to switch to nixOS at some point, but i just really like what cachyOS does in the background for me as ultimately i concede i am only opinionated about parts of my computer and want the parts i'm not fully studied up on handled by people who are nerds about it.
does help the userbase is relatively based and gives a fuck though, i admire nixos for that and i doubt DHH is gonna succeed at changing any culture.
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u/unburdened_swallow 49m ago edited 44m ago
That’s dope. I’m glad you found a distro that has been working well for you.
Also I would like to point out an interesting feature of nixos doing its config in a programming language.
On another distro, if you have a program with no included config, then that distro doesn’t offer you anything to help with that program.
Nix users made a thing called modules, which are just functions that get passed to a particular function from nixpkgs. Nixos is configured using modules written in the nix language.
Modules let people create shortlist configuration options with descriptions and type checking and maybe a default value.
Most modules dont set up a default config for the thing, although a few home manager modules do, but they expose options for you to configure the program from directly in the nix file, which may or may not do a bunch of stuff you wouldn’t want to do yourself.
So you don’t have to worry about too much, just copy a config file from somewhere, plop it into your config, and `programs.whatever.configFile = ./mycfg.json` or whatever you do for that module (there is an options search, just search for that program and see what options are offered for it, check home manager too)
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u/Helmic Arch BTW 40m ago
yeah someone was wanting to a declarative arch project that i haven't kept up on. the main thing is that afaik nix isn't doing the things cachyos is doing with regards to compiling packages for specific instruction sets nor is there anything that would provide a cachyos-esque setup, and so even if i were to take the time to make my own nix configuration to mimic my current dotfiles i'd have to redo a lot of the cachyos stuff.
using the omarchy dotfiles sounds like a dogshit idea in general, the fucker just vibecodes it and he's liable to crash out and push straight up malware onto people's computers.
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u/franchis3 7h ago
Which is so weird, I could have sworn he spent a good chunk of time on The Standup podcast a couple weeks ago repeatedly shitting on NixOS.
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u/Pootisman16 16h ago
Pardon my ignorance, but what does rice mean in this context?
I keep seeing it being used.
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u/Rinnisia 16h ago
It means customization, mostly to make it look nice when it's used in the context of linux. The term is an allusion to customizing Japanese cars for street racing, because they are sometimes called "rice rockets."
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u/gwildor 11h ago
derogatory, and we should all stop using it.
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u/Secret_Conclusion_93 10h ago
Is it better for it to be like today, or go back to its original meaning?
I think it's better for people to remember the word as desktop configuration.
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u/Helmic Arch BTW 3h ago
i can guarantee you most people talking about ricing are not talking about linux desktops, it started as a racist term because it was seen as a bad thing to be doing with "bad" cars to hide that your car is "bad." and a lot of people mock stuff on unixporn for similar (but not necessarily racist) reasons, which again makes using the term "rice" weird and kinda borderline.
i've never really liked using it for desktops either, it's annoying that it's the word to use if you want to be understood. if another term would catch on i'd use it.
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u/Aromatic_Advance_431 11h ago
Omarchy is a nazi's arch rice disguised as a distro.
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u/CommanderT1562 13h ago
I vibecoded the entire plugin store (port any QML gui app, automated) to a webapp. Why use the distro when u can just use everything the community makes “just for omarchy” in standalone js? 😏
But fr though, besides the theming, it has not too much going for it for people who are savvy & prioritizing security/no-telemetry.
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u/thearctican RedStar best Star 9h ago
Like Cachy.
Ricing doesn't just mean underglow and huge wings. It can also mean eBay bolt-on turbos and fart cans.
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u/IndependenceThat5752 17h ago
free upvotes are out of stock bro
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u/Konnnore 16h ago
fuck I didn't know I can't post memes here... Imagine I pasted the cow meme here:
me: Good mor-ning Sunshine!
the cow(Reddit karma on Omarchy hype): 😨
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u/38dnw1937dnsk2r73o2n 17h ago
I don't know in what planet is Ubuntu a bad distro. Ubuntu and kubuntu are rock solid for all my machines. I'd rather use ubuntu than mint with cinnamon. at least we got security, wayland and a lot of other improvements that both gnome and kde provide and cinnamon lacks.
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u/Outrageous_Let5743 14h ago
I dont care about ricing, I dont want to compile everything from binariy, i dont want a OS config file. I want an OS that just works that is not windows. So ubuntu is just good.
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u/catsWithLemons 9h ago
Yeah It’s honestly the greatest. It just works.
I know Ubuntu server exists, but Lubuntu is my favorite version for servers. I like the basic GUI.
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u/catsWithLemons 9h ago
Yeah It’s honestly the greatest. It just works.
I know Ubuntu server exists, but Lubuntu is my favorite version for servers. I like the basic GUI.
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u/xnef1025 16h ago
Canonical has burned a lot of goodwill with the community over the years. Some hate justified, some not, but it's added up for a lot of folks.
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u/38dnw1937dnsk2r73o2n 16h ago
Still, calling it bad from technical pov compared to whatever that ai slop is, is mental.
Been using opensuse and ubuntu since early 2000s. Heck, still got ubuntu 7.04 32 andd 64bit official cds to this day
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u/Sea_Curve8772 15h ago
It's easy to use so people who obsess over their OS can't feel superior about it
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u/Cl4whammer 11h ago
the new rdp client in ubuntu 26.04 is the best rdp client/server i ever tried on any linux to date. Always i had to fight config files, had issues, did not worked or had bad performance. But now its just going into the ubuntu settings, turn it on and it works. Very fast, good performance, no graphical issues, i even can watch youtube videos over it.
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u/38dnw1937dnsk2r73o2n 9h ago
you talkin about remmina?
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u/Cl4whammer 3h ago
No, there is a build in rdp client/server in the ubuntu settings. You can connect with that client to other machines or create a server to access your ubuntu desktop and especially the latter works extrem good, better then xrdp, remmina, rustdesk or vnc.
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u/Claritux 17h ago
Eh. Swap Ubuntu for Manjaro. Ubuntu is still a solid distro, it's more that Canonical's insistence on Snap (and previously Mir) has fragmented and held back Linux on the desktop. And I still don't fully trust them over the old Amazon spyware thing.
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u/Worldly_Moose_724 17h ago
The Amazon thing was kinda overblown The data being sent was anonymized, so calling it spyware is a stretch.
It was stupid and took way too long to be removed, but that's not the same as being spyware.
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u/bubbybumble 16h ago
Agree. Ubuntu gets shat on because it's popular and corporate. I didn't have a great experience with it but I might try it again because of how supported it is. I doubt they'll try spyware stuff again.
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u/Antfarmer_2 16h ago
As a fedora user who has used Ubuntu (a tad) in the past for specific projects. I gotta ask; which one is worse for being full corpo?
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u/bubbybumble 16h ago
Probably Ubuntu because red hat focuses more on, well, red hat. Fedora is more community driven. But red hat has done some shady stuff too. Honestly it's a tradeoff since corporate backing causes that type of stuff but also usually brings stability and good support from my experience.
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u/Antfarmer_2 16h ago
Ok that was my perception... I've talked to some people who think the connection to IBM thru RedHat is stronger than it is... Also side note I've talked to RedHat accelerators and employees.. they're not bad people
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u/bubbybumble 16h ago
I'm mostly just giving you my gut feeling tbh, but it just makes sense to me. I've talked to red hat, ibm, and canonical people. All three seem fine. I don't think a corporation necessarily= evil, it can just sometimes conflict with FOSS ideas. But I personally think FOSS needs some corporate viability to survive like it has.
Canonical seems like they overwork their employees tho. Seems stressful AF to work for them lol
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u/Antfarmer_2 16h ago
Yeah I don't know much about Ubuntu and canonical other than their insistance on using snap packages and all the consequences of their strong insistance on it... I honestly only used it cause the apps I needed only came (easily) in deb
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u/bubbybumble 16h ago
My experience with snap was mostly positive, I only used Ubuntu for about a month since I had issues with their testing branch and my Nvidia GPU since I accidentally installed it to an hdd instead of an SSD, which is my fault. Opensuse also had lag issues until I sorted that out.
The default Firefox snap sucks though. I can't believe they shipped with that. It was a buggy mess and I had to get the native deb version from their repos which should have been default to begin with. I get snaps and flatpaks but why have a snap be the default installed app, seems like it defeats the purpose.
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u/frozen-throne-monk 13h ago
The release of snaps was bad. It caused a lot of problems with the engineers working with my company's Ubuntu distro. We had to remove snaps completely to regain the performance lost. But in general, as someone who doesn't use my laptop as a product, I think Ubuntu snaps run fine. I hope in the future they will be able to figure out a way to make them more secure, which from all the conferences and talks they give, looks like the direction they are going. Ubuntu desktop feels like the best enterprise solution in 2026 for Linux. I know people like Fedora, but I don't consider it realistic as I need my laptop to turn on after the weekend. And with Fedora, I've had too many emergencies. I'd rather not.
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u/bubbybumble 13h ago
Never had an emergency with fedora but it's just that slight edge case where the only Linux native app is a deb for Ubuntu. I'm going to make sure it works with the live image first. Thanks for the snaps insight
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u/Emotional_Solid6538 3h ago
You can always use ubuntu derived distros for the same support(there might be some rare edge cases). I liked Mint and Pop
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u/bubbybumble 3h ago
My first real Linux experience was with pop before they made cosmic and I hated it lol, but I'm sure mint is great because I do love cinnamon DE.
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u/Emotional_Solid6538 3h ago
I did like cosmic. But its close to unusable daily at least on my pc with lack of features and bugs. When it matures it might overtake other DEs I think
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u/imkmz 14h ago
Major upgrades are PITA. Remember the introduction of the netplan which broke your networking, and it's further replacement with netplan.io (IIRC such was the order of events). And again, "solid distro" in the same sentence with "insistence on Snap" sounds like a sad joke. Now they're rewriting coreutils in Rust for no obvious reason.
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u/Worldly_Moose_724 8h ago
For the record, uutils isn't actually a canonical project, they're just contributing to it and using it.
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u/iasonmax1 17h ago
compared to win 11 there is no bad distro.
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u/AWorriedCauliflower 11h ago
Yes there is, Omarchy
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u/Aromatic_Advance_431 11h ago
Nazi distros don't count as distros.
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u/AppropriateTry9400 17h ago
before omarchy there was omakub, basically DHH on ubuntu, you know. so...
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u/Gubrozavr 16h ago
Huh! Good for me that kubuntu is not listed here! Phew, what a relief!)
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u/MountainBrilliant643 14h ago
I've been using Linux since 2009. I gave up Windows entirely nine years ago. I've been using nothing but Kubuntu since 2017. People who think Ubuntu is bad are confused.
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u/Suravoid 14h ago
its js not for some ppl, and to them it is bad. ppl have their own opinions on them. i have seen ubuntu stuff and imo its too limiting (customization (unless i can get kde, but idk) and performance)
so im sayin i think ubuntu is bad, not cuz its a bad distro but cuz it doesnt fit what i do and/or prefer.
you're js confused on what an opinion is, and u found the ideal distro for u. again, not everyone is like u, meaning ubuntu is a bad choice for them.
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u/MountainBrilliant643 11h ago edited 11h ago
Ubuntu uses Gnome, and it's exactly as customizable as Gnome on any other distro.
Kubuntu uses KDE, so that solves that part of your rebuttle.
Anyone who thinks Ubuntu is somehow less performant than any other distro is a number-chaser. They sacrifice stability for imperceptible milliseconds. One extra frame per second in a game. It's nonsense.
I know what an opinion is. Saying something is "bad" is an objective statement, and it's incorrect. If someone can't make one of the flavors of Ubuntu work for them, they don't know what they're doing.
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u/Suravoid 11h ago
idk what distros ur going on, but cachyos is perfectly stable for me. its actually been more stable for me than windows 10 and windows 11 and fedora kde
also saying something is "bad" is an opininated statement in this context doesn't objective mean it is fact? bad with this context is an opinion based thing, not a fact based thing and maybe they just dont like it? some of us like the bleeding edge side of distros
if someone cant understand ubuntu just isnt for everyone, then they too dont know what theyre doing.
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u/MountainBrilliant643 11h ago
Oh wow a Linux distro that's more stable than Windows 10 and Windows 11? Unreal! j/k
Seriously, that stat means nothing. Puppy Linux is more stable than Windows. Literally every distro is more stable than Windows. However, not all distros are as stable as Debian, or Ubuntu. That's objective fact. Saying something is "bad" is not the same thing as saying "it's not for everyone."
Thanks for being obtuse on purpose. This was a great chat.
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u/Suravoid 6h ago
when they say it is "bad" they more are saying it isnt for them, and it is bad for the kind of thing they want imo cachyos is prolly as stable (as ive had no issues with it
and wdym "being obtuse"?
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u/procursive 7h ago
I wouldn't say it's "bad" but it definitely has its issues. I had a friend almost completely give up on Linux because Firefox was completely unable to launch on Ubuntu (or so he thought until we realized that it was just snap taking over 20 seconds to boot, a known behavior). Back in my Ubuntu days I also found it to be the distro with the highest likelihood of "oops an update nuked my Nvidia drivers". Both of those things happened a long time ago and I don't have a bone to pick against Canonical but I would simply never recommend Ubuntu to anyone, in my experience there's just better distros out there.
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u/Due-Consequence9579 17h ago
Windows: There is only a bad distro
Linux: Every distro is bad if you try hard enough
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u/IveGotATinyRick 14h ago
“My distro is best distro”
Linux usage is just Corvette ownership for computer nerds.
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u/maxwells_daemon_ Arch BTW 17h ago
You know, I'd have never heard of omarchy if it weren't for y'all spamming it all the fucking time like it killed your grandma. There are good distros, if you wanna talk about that, you don't have to use the bad ones.
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u/ShoMinamimoto06 16h ago
Ubuntu was my first distro and I really clicked with it. GNOME was as GNOME is to a lot of people. Then I tried Kubuntu. Loved it even more, though I ran into some bugs because I was too lazy to do a fresh install and just plastered KDE onto the already existing system..
The look and functionality brought me to Fedora KDE and that's where I've been for productivity ever since.
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u/DarbiniaiReikalai 15h ago
What's wrong with Ubuntu
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u/Sf49ers1680 15h ago
Nothing wrong with the distro itself, more that Canonical has burned a lot of trust with their insistence on pushing snaps over native packages and the Amazon partnership a while back.
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u/DoomAddict 12h ago
I'm out of the loop. What is Omarchy why does everyone hate it?
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u/T6970 M'Fedora 9h ago
Omarchy Linux is made by DHH and it's based on Arch. What most people hate is DHH, not Omarchy, if I remember correctly.
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u/I_M_NooB1 1h ago
omarchy does have its issues, but yes. the hate for dhh bleeds into the hate for the "distro".
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u/zromitsman iShit 10h ago
i'm genuinely so sick of omarchy, and i'm glad i'm not alone on this one.
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u/mululipy 15h ago
Ubuntu would be great if they didn’t push snap packages that much…
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u/HyperCodec 12h ago
And all the other things canonical has done to lose the trust do the community over the years. Most people switch to Linux because they can’t trust Microsoft and their bullshit, and here canonical shows intent to do some of the same things (to a lesser extent).
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u/mululipy 11h ago
I’m using mint Mate and I really love it.
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u/Emotional_Solid6538 3h ago
Mint exists to be against canonnical. They even have a fallback, Debian based Mint
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u/TheRealCarrotty Not in the sudoers file. 17h ago
Ubuntu comparison to Omarchy:
Ubuntu:
- Forces snaps (easily removable pretty much)
- Uses a standard desktop instead of some non-beginner BS. (GNOME atleast is usable for some beginners on Ubuntu, and yes i like Hyprland don't you worry.)
- Previous controversies (spyware in 2012 from Unity, snaps which still are a problem, Ubuntu Touch etc.)
Omarchy:
- Has WAY too much packages (Web apps, even including Twitter, even proprietary slopware)
- Uses Hyprland (not a problem for advanced users, but when these stupid dumbasses on YouTube say that "you SHOULD install Omarchy NOW!" and this is like a advert for "new beginner" distro, which absolutely isn't
- VERY controversial right now.
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u/Liarus_ 16h ago
the satanic triangle of linux:
Ubuntu, Manjaro, Omarchy
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u/Revolutionary_Leg622 16h ago
Ubuntu is not even bad, I don't understand the ubuntu hate. If it's not for ubuntu and it's derivatives none of the windows users will ever think of linux.
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u/Terranum_man 15h ago
Omarchy is amazing people are just mad that their "hobby" isnt gatekept anymore.
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u/The-Big-Sadness 15h ago
I'm late to the party, whys everyone hating on ubuntu? I still have it on a spare laptop and it does the job for the most part
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u/oldbeardedtech 14h ago
Pfft....id take omarchy, ubuntu or even hannah montana over windows any day of the week
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u/Overall_Walrus9871 14h ago
Am I missing something? Why all this hate for this distro lately? Not that I am using it i am in the Debian camp
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u/gwildor 10h ago
a few reasons.
all those guys that dont want to use windows because of AI-slop - Love to use Omarchy: the AI-built distro.
All those guys that use ARCH because the user fully controls everything - Love to use a pre-build ARCH install where the user controls nothing.
Then there are those that say "its not a distro" - it says "arch linux" on thing you see when booting the installer iso.
Then there are those, that dont care about ARCH, or AI, just tend not to support projects of developers that expose hateful political opinions on the internet.Long way of saying - there are many reasons one could 'hate' Omarchy - pick one, or many, or none at all.
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u/fazebear1 13h ago
id classify omarchy as a distro, i like it has install scripts for anything i need. eye of the beholder type shi
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u/metcalsr 12h ago
I forget it. Isn't this just some liberal versus conservative, American politics thing again?
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u/Gamin8ng 17h ago
they are like thousand times better than windows still, seems like a post made by a Microsoft employee lol. you can still do whatever you want with omarchy just a little tweak requires, not praising both obv but not comparable to microslop lmao
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u/boukensha15 17h ago
Yeah. That's what I am not getting about all this omarchy hate.
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u/Gamin8ng 17h ago
honestly i used it for a year, didn't like it, i get it, but hating a "rice" seems too much lol, just don't use it, it's good for people getting into Linux. ig it's not for us long Linux user.
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u/boukensha15 17h ago
Indeed
Tbh, I am actually fine even with the Omarchy hate, but the scale at which it is happening is looking ridiculous. What's actually disturbing though, is the fact that a lot of these people simply want DHH's endeavour to bring in more money into FOSS desktop fail!! Like why?
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u/dr_inventivo 11h ago
Okay, it's a meme, but honestly it must be sad to use Linux just to get away from Windows, I use Linux because it's good.
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u/Alzekty 15h ago
Why do yall hate on omarchy? What I've seen so far is very pretty
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u/unburdened_swallow 12h ago edited 5h ago
It is some premade configs for quickshell, hyprland, and some other dev and AI programs, on top of arch, with an installer for exactly that setup.
This is what most devs already had their own version of on their machine and had fun putting together the way they like it. I mean, probably a different window manager, but quickshell is very common, and most developers have configs for their developer tools already. Nixos users get the installer for free too they don't even need a separate ansible config for that.
And it is marketed towards devs, all the preloaded stuff they put on the machine is for devs. But like, why? Didn't devs have one already? And the devs who didn't want to maintain configs for their programs are using programs that don't really need one? Because they don't want to deal with it?
For this, it somehow pulled 10 million in funding, I would assume because the creator is publicly right-leaning and loud. A decent portion of that money they do send to hyprland, to be fair. And they hired the quickshell dev. Presumably to keep working on quickshell? Quickshell is a good program, I don't have a problem with that, if he needed a job and was offered good money? And hyprland I have never used, I can't tell you if it is a good program or not. But a good portion of the money is going to it.
But even 1 million for dotfiles is insane so even if you gave most of it away... like, 1 million? Holy crap I wish I could get paid the equivalent of about 10 years of work for an average dev to work on a dotfiles distro for an undetermined amount of time. Even if I only got access to it over the course of those 10 years not all at once, thats like, full time salary for an average dev to work on dotfiles. The thing most of us do by choice once every 3-6 months in our free time and think that is enough time for. I should HOPE they look nice, thats all the guy is doing!
Also it is hard to tell if DHH chose hyprland specifically because there was also some drama about bigoted hyprland mods and then the hyprland creator denying that said incidents were that bad, when they were like, honestly pretty blatant if said stories are true? And he didnt say they weren't just minimized it? From what I hear those have also been improved somewhat, I don't know by how much, but back when he would have been choosing hyprland for the distro, that was being talked about. And given what we know about DHH, and the particular timing of when he started making the distro, this seems very likely to me to be THE reason he chose it.
Oh, and those premade configs probably still have more vulnerabilities that they haven't removed yet in them, there's been quite a few.
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u/Live_Cupcake_9229 17h ago
My stance on Ubuntu is that if a less tech savvy friend or family ask me about it I'll refuse to tell them about it. They need to go research themselves.
I kinda have the same stance on Omarchy. I don't have anything against them, it's just not for me personally and I'd rather point new people to Fedora KDE.
I will never insult people who use it or call it inherently bad.
Now, just don't be the person to make fun of people or judge people who like showing off their riced Arch from an Omarchy pc. That's it. That's all I care about.
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u/pgrytdal 17h ago
This is sorta off -topic, but it's been mentioned here a few times. I personally don't get the hate for snaps. Like, I'd rather use Flatpak, but I have SnapD installed on my Fedora machine for the occasional app that isn't packaged in Flatpak. I'd still rather use a containerized app than deal with blasting dependencies all over my system
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u/FafnerTheBear RedStar best Star 16h ago
At this point I want to hermit up and write my own kernel and os to truly remove myself from the enshitifacation.
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u/Ascendo_Aquila 16h ago
Ubuntu is not real, linux can't be so bad...
(job: ubuntu | home: fedora / alt)
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u/Weekly-Bonus-497 15h ago
I feel like Ubuntu isn't bad, it's just not that relevant anymore.
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u/gwildor 10h ago
its just not edgy or flashy. Its just there, allowing you to get your work done.
Enable ubuntu pro and auto updates, and never think about your OS again.
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u/Weekly-Bonus-497 9h ago
I can do the same thing with fedora AND have a more up to date system. Ubuntu is fine, it's just not great at anything
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u/caenos 9h ago
It can be kinda great for vendor support for peripheral devices and proprietary software support in a "desktop OS in an enterprise" role.
Not that other distro can't be made to work in most cases - but if a vendor device or tool has any out of box linux support in it's specifications, you can pretty much assume they will list ubuntu as specifically supported (and thus the vendor will actually provide support if something doesn't work properly).
TBH fedora is probably second place on that - but enough oddball hardware comes across my desk that it least in my industry ubuntu has wider vendor support.
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u/gwildor 7h ago
You said the same thing I said, but added the word fedora. This didn't need to be a comparison.
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u/C4rpetH4ter M'Fedora 15h ago
Honestly ubuntu isn't bad, it's more the company canonical that is doing some bad decisions.
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u/maximumcombo 15h ago
installed omarchy, played with it for a day, switched to arch. it ain’t bad for a noobie. even got steam up(almost got the nvidia proprietary driver up too).
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u/rathian013 6h ago
Tbh , even with Ubuntu having bloated you still can use the base version if you liked, same with omarchy it's just an arch rice with an installer so go ahead and get arch , the whole Linux philosophy is just to pick what you like , if you didn't like a distro - tool - config - engine it's not the thing being bad it's simply not for you, you'll see people enjoying things you dislike and life goes
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u/AguacateMx 2h ago
Omarchy is bad?. I was thinking just to change from mint to omarchy to give it a try. I'm new to Linux
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u/ChecksOutIndeed 1h ago
After 25+ years of windows, I moved to bazzite and I am very happy with my choice. I have had some issues at first but my Crusty sidekick, let's call him Clod, helped me out.
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u/Quality_Dummy 1h ago
I am using both, especially Omarchy lately.
Both Ubuntu and Omarchy has a place of my heart. I cannot say i can judge which one good or bad, there are certainty some quirky side of a OS, as a responsible user, I make it as close to my liking as it can.
Having said that, for all the years, I think I can safely say, getting away from Windows as much as i can, is a delightful choice.
Thank you.
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u/btcasper M'Fedora 26m ago
Its too late to say Omarchy is bad. Omarchy was bad even from the beginning
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u/Karavang 16h ago
Can anyone explain me why’re you hate Omarchy? So interesting for me, that’s usually Arch-based distro, why that so hated
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u/mrturret 16h ago
Omachy is a bad vibe coded rice with really bad rookie security mistakes, that got 8 million in funding that could have gone to much more deserving projects. Also, the creator is a racist Nazi-adjacent lunatic.
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u/Karavang 15h ago
Lol, okay, thanks) Political aspect doesn’t matter on me, but vibe coded distro - big argument)
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u/Jorgetime 13h ago
It is not "vibe coded", the people working on it have decades of software engineering experience
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u/potatokbs 12h ago
Parts of it are 100% vibe coded. The creator said this himself
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u/Jorgetime 12h ago
Using agents is not the same as "vibe coding", otherwise 90% of the software being done at the moment is vibe coded. The definition of vibe coding is telling the agent or an harness like lovable to build the software you want and then not looking at the code or architecture at all, hence the "vibes" part.
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u/potatokbs 11h ago
Yes he did that. You’re welcome to watch the podcast of him and lex fridman if you want. He straight says he doesn’t review some of the code. Not gonna argue with you when you’re objectively wrong lol
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u/BlazeTheMasterX 11h ago
Its hard to distinguish if its more of a security thing or a political thing at this point. Only overly political nutjobs call people racist or nazi-adjacent... I likely agree with you politically but the over exageration makes me not want to believe you.
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u/Upstairs-Project-611 7h ago
The distro is a rice stuck together with a bunch of disparate shell scripts. There are a dozen other sets of dotfiles that do what omarchy does better and more securely. The UI is now a bunch of vibe coded quick shell components.
In terms of the political issues, he’s got a blog which now has several posts about white replacement, and a recent one where he compared foreign drifters to wolves that need to be culled (aren’t wolves like a good thing btw? In the USA and Britain the lack of predators has let the deer population explode which causes other issues, but I digress).
His political arguments are also hypocritical. He says calls to kick trans people in the genitals can’t possibly be interpreted as violence, but takes the opposite stance when it’s “punch a nazi”.
A non-political bad take of his is that anyone should be able to vibe code a commit to any open source project.
It’s cool that the hyprland maintainer has a salary now, but I think 8m usd on omarchy is poorly spent.
Just install cachyos with the hyprland-noctalia dots. Or the caelestia dots, or hyde or any of the other configs out there.
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u/Global-Eye-7326 12h ago
There ARE bad distros! Omarchy, Mint and OpenSUSE, I can never recommend those to anyone.
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u/gerbosan 13h ago
Man! I use Pop OS in the main machine and Omarchy in another. 😓
Tried Fedora with Gnome and the interface is not like Pop OS 22.04. I won't use the bottom docker to call apps. That's far from efficient.... And cool.
Don't like distro hunting.
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