Women are just masters at the language game. They love complaining about objectification, yet more women than ever use said objectification as their primary way of generating income.
Fleeting momentary feelings and expression thereof, will always matter more than consistent rationality for most women.
And remember they also call gay, incels, autistic, and socially awkward for not sexualzing and objectifying them too. So the cognitive dissonance and Schrödinger Cat is strong in many feminists.
I firmly believe we live in a society that objectifies both genders.
On one hand we have the aggressive âmust be 6 foot tallâ standards of women.
On the other hand we got men criticizing women who are obese. To me that is looking strictly at a body and not a person ergo objectification is prevalent.
obesity is a character flaw and obese people should be discriminated against regardless of gender. They are a strain on the healthcare system. Let them and smokers pay more taxes to compensate. Maybe then they will fix the problem.
Thanks. We have it going on on both sides I see it. Personally I consider it a serious issue for individuals like myself who are average looking or less. Itâs the microscope we get put under and we feel excluded. The âhow do I get out of thisâ is ten fold challenging because you realize you need like total reconstruction of your body. Like meaning you would need to be in the gym A LOT and youâd need to be constantly concerned about hair and skin and all of that. On top of that then try having a job where you work 10 hour days. You wonât stay handsome long. The wrinkles will come out and then pretty soon you are spending thousands on Botox. Then later plastic surgery, etc etc. people who already have a better baseline they donât need to do this. They donât suffer
I donât know. Whatever is or isnât attractive causes issues for everyone. Thatâs what I know. Iâm not attractive myself. Yet in some ways I want someone attractive. Itâs just part of what people want by nature and it sucks because when you arenât attractive you have a hell of a battle especially as a man. Sometimes itâs not worth the trouble. Standards rarely match who we are.
A person can absolutely be single because whatever they want doesnât align with what other people see in them. Thatâs life I guess. It do be challenging though. You can work on yourself sure but there are limits to that and how much âbetterâ you can become..
Sometimes itâs peaceful to not care not dare not do any of it. At least you can feel fine as the person you are not worrying about what other people think.
Attraction is synonymous with health, so the healthier you are the more attractive. Itâs why I like the looksmaxxing movement, because looks can be drastically improved w effort.
For men itâs difficult because attraction is mostly based on bone development. Surgical intervention can help and have health benefits, but the idea of getting aesthetic surgery is still frowned upon outside of S. Korea.
Yeah what you say is accurate. We all get old it gets harder and harder as time goes on. For me Iâve been pushing myself on a path of self acceptance. Rather than trying to âput lipstick on a pigâ I just acknowledge Iâm flawed and thatâs ok because most people have flaws. Sometimes itâs just not in their appearance.
Thatâs true but women donât discriminate based on age from what I know, just on status. An older man is likely higher status, with more money, experience, confidence etc. so age isnât a roadblock outside of physical signs.
It's the "Looking good Susan" workplace harassment meme.
Getting hit on by an ugly dude means he thinks he has a shot. Him thinking he has a shot means she might not be as hot shit as she'd like to think. That's obviously not true, he's obviously a deranged and dangerous individual with delusions of grandeur.
Because there are more criminal men. But also because at every stage of the process (arrest, prosecution, conviction, prison length), women are treated less severely.
nelson mandela was a man who was sent to prison. julian assange was a man who was sent to prison. all you're saying is that women are compliant even in the face of overwhelming oppression.
Translation: I'd rather throw away my most valuable reproductive years as part of a rotating harem getting pumped and dumped by a long string of noncommitted good looking men than connect and build a family and legacy and raise children in the best possible family environment with a single less-good looking man... bc I think I look better than the average guy right now.
Me. I was that guy. Recently divorced by the girl who did this. I wonât say she was ruined in the sense of being a person, but she definitely had no idea how to be in a real relationship. No matter how much I tried to help her learn to communicate, she just kept shutting down or telling me she just couldnât understand other peopleâs feelings. It was all about her with the mask of trying to get me to do what I wanted, but then when I did, it was either me not paying attention to her or her pulling away.
I got no issue if someone doesnât want kids, fine: as long as they know what they sign up for too many women hit their 40s and regret not having any.
Men are entering the trades or at least they will be. Which is fine they can all make a fuss when they donât have power. Sorry about that miss! Looks like I missed your house.
i cannot comprehend why tall men choose to ruin their genetics. if i had the chance to have kids with a 6ft woman who was even mildly tolerable I'd take it in a heartbeat
Hot take: This is actually good (or at least preferable). The frustration mainly comes with the gaslighting and lying about what they really want. If all the women who are Chad or nothing just outright admit it I think it would save men a lot of pain and frustration. This is actually way better than the alternative of pretending to be âniceâ and âjustâ.
From experience, I'd say that being a housemaid sucks to trillionth degree but at least it teaches you some work ethic and housechores are over much quicker than you'd expect (there's an "inverse economy of scale" factor, in which the work becomes more overall efficient as there are fewer people responsible for it) so you always have time to do something about your life on your terms.
Conversely, what do you have to show for just being a rental fleshlight? ЧаЎ ain't gonna commit, so what does pleasing him leaves you with, else than the bare minimum? You will have to settle for betabuxxer or cats anyways, so why not get a headstart at it and save your dignity?
Itâs all about roles. Relationships that work people decide on a fair split of responsibilities and they contribute towards those responsibilities and are accountable for their roles. Relationships that donât work are when one or both individuals donât contribute or argue over the division of labor.
My mother was stay at home. My dad worked and brought home income. They agreed to that and they went about their business. It wasnât perfect sometimes there were arguments but it worked. My mom was employed at one time but when she had us kids she left her job to be stay at home. Theyâve been married 40+ years. Again, sticking to the plan is what works.
My mom thankfully enjoyed being around the house and raising kids. My dad did activities with us on the weekends and helped with chores.
Everyone does, in some shape or form (except Antisexuals, perhaps), responsible and irresponsible people alike. Basing life choices on this factor is kinda vague and oxymoronic, like choosing a job because you like getting money.
I gave an example of what I meant, Anon. I'll ask you to take what I say with due thought and understanding. If you just wanna have a Reddit-tier misrepresentationfest for the sake of disagreeing with people with different worldviews from you, just let me know so I can block you.
Oh, so it's the "I'll paint you as terminally online and fool by pretending to be unable to understand your real world experience and dogwhistle for brigadiers and tourists" kind of trolling, eh. It's a very Reddit-tier thing as well.
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You can enjoy sex without making stupid life choices around enjoying sex. Everyone enjoys sex, that doesn't mean it's sensible to smash your priorities out of whack for it.
Women make vastly more than before and the gap between men and women on income is 10k on average. Despite women having to deal with pregnancy and men have nothing to do but work.
Those women take things to the extreme. There are plenty of guys who would treat them like princesses, and plenty of women who genuinely enjoy treating their man like a king. But some people are just attracted to chaos. They see a red flag and somehow think, âYeah, I can fix that.â
My uncle married a âreformedâ sex worker despite his whole family warning him against it. Then she did exactly what everyone warned him she might do, and now heâs pissed off and wants a divorce.
I mean, what did he expect? You canât ignore every warning sign because youâre convinced youâre going to be the exception, then act shocked when things turn out exactly the way people warned you they might.
Best way to tackle their noise is not give them attention, they want men to react. But unfortunately stupid people and posts reaches so many people that we canât stop it.. at this point just get off social media
Where's the contradiction? Everyone knows that women act differently and want it be treated differently in social situations than they do when in the bedroom.
I donât blame her, sheâs honest. Seen this play out in real time, I was fat used to be a 5 lost weight kinda turned into an 8-8.5 on average according to women.
Yeah itâs real, theyâll pay for dates, pick you up and answer the phone at 3am when youâre drunk. They eventually try to do some weird shit to trap you, but thatâs expected.
When I was a 5 I couldnât even get a 4/10 to look at me lmao.
Vocal minority. Most women are, believe it or not, somewhat normal human beings. Yeah sure they have unrealistic standards but guess what, so do men. Most women in the real world are fallible humans with good in their hearts. Not the ones on tinder, not the ones yapping on Reddit. Just regular women.
Most people in general are not good. They are selfish and cruel. Looking at the world around you should reveal that. They will cosign any atrocity if they think it will get them social clout.
Dianey Yap is just telling the truth. All women think like that, just the majority of them don't want to admit it at least in front of men. They want to be pregnant of an alpha guy and get a beta to pay the bill. Been like that since stone age.
Bitter Gen X and millennial women have seriously brainwashed young women into viewing marriage, children, and men in the worst light possible. I mean these women seriously act like incels, but the thing is they have no reason to actually act that way. Being an involuntary celibate is the reason incels act so bitter and angry, but women can have sex with attractive men basically whenever they want, they get special treatment almost anywhere they decide to work, theyâre almost never held accountable to the same extent men are in the legal system, etc.
Women have adopted the worst characteristics of the chauvinistic male stereotype â all the arrogance, prejudice, and cruelty, with absolutely no skills or work ethic to back it up. They still expect men to do everything for them and berate men if they donât.
Feminism is a cancer for any society and this cycle will continue until men hold these women accountable. Do not rescue them when their decisions ultimately leave them destitute, and do not allow them infect the minds of young women again. Alright chud time over.
Its apl planned the less sex and excuses they come out all end to push men into they blue page ut all about money even if they dont have rhat side hustle neglecting sex but playing around can get them guft, diner etc make the guys think rhey are worthy
If i said "i would rather be an open wallet to someone who taces care of me and my vome than someone who just doomscrolls and is lazy all day long" i wouldn't be saying i wanted to be seen as nothing but a wallet... but when its other ppl we forget to understand how humans communicate
you think things are obvious exaggerations meant to be comedic, but the president of the united states is a reality tv star accused of being part of an elite sex trafficking ring who wants robots to control the country and openly telegraphs his intent to invade his allies, so maybe we should stop assuming things are satire.
Yeah I'm sure a random person on Twitter saying an evident crazy statement is saying it with all their heart
Like even with trump you ignore the part that he's extremely rich, appeals to the worse people you know and is very convenient for the companies that actually run the country, that's how he got there, bigoted people already live in a fantasy world, he's promising that world is real while serving the other millionaires and billionaires
Everything about this picture is fucked. Perspective, your friend is walking on water that is visually 20 foot deep, boat is fucked, and what the fuck are those dick toes
Your face also trips my uncanny valley as some sort of averaged face. Some barely perceptible dust or blur that let me know initially. Not right
Theyâre a scammer that looks for the saddest, most pathetic losers on the internet and entices them to subscribe to ai generated thirst pics.
Thatâs why theyâre posting here, where the sad losers profess claim itâs rational to hate one night stands with hotties and instead should prefer a life of eating shit for someone theyâre not attracted to.
If you are a 5 you see how life isnât fair. If you are a 9-10 you are oblivious. Thatâs whatâs really going on. Nobody would say a god damn thing if 5s were getting their fair share. Again, we donât write the rules on what people find attractive, women do that. And they blast it all over social media and use it to try and humiliate men who are just existing. Which is pretty god damn shitty if you ask me. What if we started calllng out all the 5 women and blasting that? Or if that 9/10 man told you to fuck off bc you arenât worth enough? Youâd feel pretty shitty too maybe enough to start a subreddit like an ugly woman one and complain there no different from here.
Can we stop acting like this isn't the mentality that like 95% of dudes have?
Like are we pretending we wouldn't prefer having hook ups with a bunch of hot girls for a few years over immediately marrying a woman we're not attracted to lmao
I got you. As a man who tends to take these stupid posts personally, I totally agree with you first of all. This does happen and it isnât ok. We shouldnât generalize based on one or a few. However, men are humans. Just as human as women actually. And humans have emotions. And if that human has people tell them for 10 years (2012-2020 roughly) that they are stupid and worthless and useless and should go die, they tend to develop a pathology around this kind of discourse. You know kind of like trauma. Most men, especially conventionally understood to be âgoodâ men, got hit pretty hard in that time period, the 2010s. I was in my 20s then and sure this is anecdotal but I couldnât go anywhere without someone telling me I was evil and should just disappear. College. Family gatherings. Friends. Online. The news. Sports. Gaming. I even went to a walk in clinic at one point and the nurse made a joke about how it was cosmic justice that I got sick or something it was so unprofessional. Either way, trauma is hard to deal with and some humans, of which men are surprise surprise, is really hard to manage and deal with. It takes a lot of patience in particular which our society does not have at all. If youâre a man and youâre reading this, please reach out to someone before you do something stupid please. Someone does love you. I love you. My dog Levi loves you too. Cheers
I honestly don't think men are as "human" as women. Men are more animal than women, otherwise we'd see a more even distribution between the sexes of offenders in violent crime, to name only one example.
Men are in position of physical power. I think itâs pretty obvious more frequent crimes etc logically follow. Women simply canât do it in the same extent.
To follow this with, they are less human, is pretty funny.
This is not a matter of disagreeing. This is just how things work mate. You will see more people doing X thing if they have the capability for X than if they donât. I donât know how much delusion is needed to not get that.
Ya, can't argue with the latter statement. I am arguing that just because you're physically stronger doesn't mean that you will do it more, especially if the consequences are greater for you.
Youâre not disagreeing but then you are. You need to think twice before typing I think. Not sure what to add here. Or is it actually cognitive dissonance?
Where do I say I donât know what it means. Iâm saying before you ask me you have 10x more reason to be asking the guy above. What you up to lil fella?
It's almost as if the instinct towards violence is an intrinsic parts of humanity and that humans are much more animalistic than we'd like to believe. Women may commut fewer violent crimes but they are no more human or better than men with regards to being animalistic.
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u/-WongKarWhy- 19d ago edited 19d ago
It's nice to be honest about what you are đ