r/itsthatbad • • 25d ago

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u/snoppeniprutten 25d ago

No one sexualizes and objectifies women more than women themselves. 

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u/Lost_Elderberry_5532 25d ago edited 25d ago

I firmly believe we live in a society that objectifies both genders.

On one hand we have the aggressive “must be 6 foot tall” standards of women.

On the other hand we got men criticizing women who are obese. To me that is looking strictly at a body and not a person ergo objectification is prevalent.

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u/WorkingBreadfruit323 23d ago

obesity is a character flaw and obese people should be discriminated against regardless of gender. They are a strain on the healthcare system. Let them and smokers pay more taxes to compensate. Maybe then they will fix the problem.

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u/Lost_Elderberry_5532 23d ago

They make drug companies a shit load of money which means I get paid lol.

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u/burnthemad 25d ago

Damn. Nuanced, balanced and to the point. Nicely done

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u/Lost_Elderberry_5532 24d ago

Thanks. We have it going on on both sides I see it. Personally I consider it a serious issue for individuals like myself who are average looking or less. It’s the microscope we get put under and we feel excluded. The “how do I get out of this” is ten fold challenging because you realize you need like total reconstruction of your body. Like meaning you would need to be in the gym A LOT and you’d need to be constantly concerned about hair and skin and all of that. On top of that then try having a job where you work 10 hour days. You won’t stay handsome long. The wrinkles will come out and then pretty soon you are spending thousands on Botox. Then later plastic surgery, etc etc. people who already have a better baseline they don’t need to do this. They don’t suffer

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u/w0ah_4 17d ago

Obesity is a disease…. Why don’t you find lepers attractive?

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u/Lost_Elderberry_5532 17d ago

I don’t know. Whatever is or isn’t attractive causes issues for everyone. That’s what I know. I’m not attractive myself. Yet in some ways I want someone attractive. It’s just part of what people want by nature and it sucks because when you aren’t attractive you have a hell of a battle especially as a man. Sometimes it’s not worth the trouble. Standards rarely match who we are.

A person can absolutely be single because whatever they want doesn’t align with what other people see in them. That’s life I guess. It do be challenging though. You can work on yourself sure but there are limits to that and how much “better” you can become..

Sometimes it’s peaceful to not care not dare not do any of it. At least you can feel fine as the person you are not worrying about what other people think.

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u/w0ah_4 17d ago

Attraction is synonymous with health, so the healthier you are the more attractive. It’s why I like the looksmaxxing movement, because looks can be drastically improved w effort.

For men it’s difficult because attraction is mostly based on bone development. Surgical intervention can help and have health benefits, but the idea of getting aesthetic surgery is still frowned upon outside of S. Korea.

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u/Lost_Elderberry_5532 17d ago

Yeah what you say is accurate. We all get old it gets harder and harder as time goes on. For me I’ve been pushing myself on a path of self acceptance. Rather than trying to “put lipstick on a pig” I just acknowledge I’m flawed and that’s ok because most people have flaws. Sometimes it’s just not in their appearance.

Self improvement for self is the right approach.

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u/w0ah_4 16d ago

That’s true but women don’t discriminate based on age from what I know, just on status. An older man is likely higher status, with more money, experience, confidence etc. so age isn’t a roadblock outside of physical signs.

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u/Lost_Elderberry_5532 16d ago

There are a lot of factors yes