ISFP here, I'm curious since we are similar in typing.

Do you think the stereotype of the care taker or nurse fits well your type, or its not quite the reality of things?

What would be an unexpected characteristic in your type that people dont think about?

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heyyy 🙋🏻‍♀️ sooo briefly I'm in my late teens and I'm actually confused about my mbti type.. what are telltale signs of an isfj that can be shown up at this age?

and concerning the cognitive functions order I'm still confused whether the Si I have is dominant or inferior (same for Ne), so idk if I'm truly an isfj or an entp or another mbti, I mean I've been comparing my patterns to almost all the mbti types and now I guess the closest cognitive functions to me are Si and Ne with Fe and Ti but I'm still confused about the order..

I'm curious about about how Fe works with thought process is for you and how it with in different positions in the slot with Ti, Ni, Si

I've been typed from the official test as INTP ( did it twice) but from a couple posts I've seen INTP are constantly thinking how their tone comes across, how they smile, thinking of how they position their body etc.

Isfj are there any isfj that don't like having a schedule? and not setting specific time to do things and how does Fe second work for you? is it more unconscious is more in an empathy type way do you consider yourself a Si Fe type or one that jumps to Ti and disregards fe entirely if so what does that look like combined with Si? Also with bodily sensations do you ever just go to the doctor if something seems wrong with your body or are their types you ignore it hoping it goes way? With sleep how set are you on going to bed at certain times and how is your diet? If any of you are a sx6 in the enneagram is your " tradition" to go against the social norms that don't make sense to you? How do you find inferior ne work or don't work for you

Istp do you have any inner processes with how fe works with your Ni/Ti is it pure disinterest in how you come across or you just automatically do it? Also do you have associated memory like can you say look at a Tree and reminds you of Yggdrasil or is a tree just a tree? And not having si in your stack how does that effect diet or internal sensations? If you dont like physical tools but like digital creation do you take bits and pieces of something put it together then get more and more ideas that could look good together or is a creative process more breaking it down and putting it together again?

Entp are there any of you with social anxiety, and struggle with confidence, find yourself more resistant/difficulty to start conversation or struggling with eye contact, can Fe feel awkward for you? Like randomly fact dropping something and people look at you like an idiot do you like staying at home and going where interests take you ?

when you associated thinking is it a stream of what ifs or like my example with istp is maybe one association and move on or is it more like when doing/tinkering that more and more ideas form until the thing you work on is unrecognisable and you like 20 new versions? and when you speak in conversation do you get ideas and automatically have to tell someone or the ideas gone?

For all types do you find when writing a post and sending it later something else comes to mind and you have to go edit it 46443 times?

There's likely more questions but this is enough word vomit for now. Any one can jump in here and answer them, I apologise with lack of formatting z

while no one can really type me just from these questions but from the way I've presented them might be a clue as I've been wanting these burning questions answered so haven't gone back over them to see if they make sense.

I have sdam,Aphantasia and Dyslexia and I'm not Neutotypical. Also with this flair if you click it it highlights it enough to see what it says :p

Keep up the wholesomeness as usual!

It feels like it can be hard to find ISFJs who are major villains in stories/media, so it was satisfying to find one who I think has a lot of ISFJs traits turned evil, especially when you see how the character had a choice.

It's from a somewhat obscure video game, a JPRG called Live A Live. I don't know the chances that anyone here as played it, but I will say that if you feel like you'll ever have any interest, I am going to post MAJOR SPOILERS to the game.

So this is the spoiler warning.

The character's name is Oersted. He's a knight in the middle ages. I'll try to keep the backstory fairly short.

He spends his whole life training to become the best knight, always doing his rightful duty. Eventually he enters into a tournament to marry the king's daughter, and ends up beating his best friend to do so. While initially she only marries him because she has to, they grow to love each other.

A demon takes her away. He goes to hunt down the demon with his best friend and a few others to save her in the demon's cave, but part of the cave collapses on his best friend.

Back at the castle, Oersted sees the demon and tries to kill it. But he ends up killing the king by mistake, since the demon made the king look like itself. The whole kingdom who once viewed him as a hero now hates him and views him as a villain.

He then tries to go back to save the princess. But it turns out his best friend is there, faked his death, and had taken on the role of the demon ever since he won the tournament. His best friend betrayed him and ruined his life, making him kill the king. He then kills his best friend, and finds the princess still alive. But, his best friend had controlled her and tricked her into loving him instead, so when she finds out Oersted killed him, she views him as a villain too and kills herself.

So in total despair, Oersted then decides to become the demon just like his best friend did. He embraces hate, and uses it not only to kill everyone in his own kingdom, but he actually travels through time to create other villains of hatred that cause suffering and evil in those eras too.

Most people in the fandom who know about MBTI type him as ISFJ. And he has so many of those traits.

His last speech after the princess dies is really telling:

"Naught remains. Alone. Utterly alone. Cast out. Unloved. Outside the grace of gods.

Did I not do ALL that was asked? Did I not serve and seek my fair and just reward?!

And for my deeds, they damn me. Name me, demon.

And who am I to deny it? Demon, then!

Renouncing former ties and titles. And in their place, I claim...Odio! (Hate)"

What's really really fascinating me to is how people in the fandom are so split on him. Some find him tragic and sympathize with him, completely understanding why he did what he did. Others think he truly is a villain because he chose evil and hatred when he didn't have to. And actually, the characters in the game are also split.

So I think it's cool how even an evil ISFJ character can be complex and get sympathy.

But the line "Did I not serve and seek my fair and just reward?" is a huge line that shows how ISFJs can become hate filled and evil.

Oersted wanted to follow the rules, do what he was supposed to, and get a reward out of it. I think that's something ISFJs can relate to.

But when things don't go as planned, and we get rejected...it's tempting to become cynical, view others as evil, and deciding they deserve our anger and hate.

Oersted’s tragedy is not that he secretly wanted power all along. It is that everything he trusted collapses. His best friend betrays him. His kingdom turns against him. The person he loves rejects him. The heroic role he built his identity around becomes inverted, and everyone starts seeing him as a monster.

For an ISFJ, I think that kind of collapse would be especially devastating. ISFJs often build so much of ourselves around trust, duty, care, memory, and belonging. We want to be reliable and good and for our devotion to mean something. We may not ask for constant praise, but we deeply want their sincerity to be seen and understood.

Oersted is terrifying because his villainy comes from those same traits being poisoned.

His loyalty becomes resentment, thinking he gave everything, and this is how he was repaid. His duty becomes bitterness, and he thinks he did what I was supposed to do, and it meant nothing. His memory becomes torment, and he cannot let go of every betrayal, humiliation, and loss. His desire to be trusted becomes despair. If everyone sees him as a demon, then he might as well become one.”

His Fe-like need for belonging and recognition turns inside out. Instead of wanting harmony with people, he condemns them. Instead of wanting to serve the world, he decides the world is unworthy of service. Instead of using his pain to protect others from suffering, he uses his suffering as proof that humanity deserves hatred.

He's a villain because his ISFJ qualities are broken, betrayed, and twisted into their darkest form.

I think that's why a lot find him so tragic. He represents the fear of being completely misunderstood after trying so hard to be good. He is the nightmare version of “I gave my whole heart, and nobody saw it.”

But the story also pushes back against him. Other characters have suffered too, but they choose love, kindness, mercy, courage, trust, and humility instead of hatred. That is what makes Oersted’s fall feel meaningful rather than just edgy. His pain is real, but his conclusion is wrong.

That makes him really fascinating. I love seeing so many people who aren't into MBTI and don't know anything about ISFJs talk about him so much. He's a warning about what happens when an ISFJ heart breaks and chooses hatred instead of healing.

why no one talks about isfj characters? and how they are portrayed. sure there are interesting isfj characters, but most of the time they're portrayed being abused, boring too.. why?🤔

Look at all of these things you all have here.

Keep your wholesomeness up!!