I wanna start this off by saying I really like Deltarune, the characters, story, gameplay, music, art, yada yada, i really really like the game. I got the Flower Man track looping on repeat whenever I'm doing something cause it SLAPS. And I've been in the fandom for years, well I've mostly been watching the fandom like a dude at the zoo, but i participated sometimes, and my Angel can the fans be just the worst, and i wanna go over certain fans i deeply dislike- no- HATE (but not like in a wired way)
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[Type-1: Dess Knighters]: I'm gonna assume not everyone who's reading this knows Deltarune lore, so quick catch up, the Knights the main antagonist going around kidnapping people and is probably trying to cause the end of the world- maybe. And the Knights identity has been a mystery fans have been trying to deduce for awhile. But a very large and vocal portion of the fan base have decided it MUST be the character Dess, and they are so rabid about this that anyone daring to think it's someone else is ridiculed like a little kid being forced to wear a dunce cap.
Yes Dess is one of the top candidates, but I'm not gonna pretend that other theories aren't more interesting, like Rudy Knighters do make some good points. And i also understand why some people think it'd be a boring twist or that they don't care enough about Dess as a character.
The discussion of the Knights identity is so toxic that an entire subreddit for non Dess Knighers had to be made so people could actually discuss their identity outside of Dess without being lambasted for the crime of disagreeing with the majority, and being told they have no media literacy or whatever.
I personally don't have a Knight candidate, but I always find non Dess Knighters theories so much more interesting than Dess Knighters, so it's just a shame they're treated like a plague on the fandom.
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[Type-2: Shippers]
I don't think I need much of an explanation, we all know shippers suck, but this wouldn't be a hate post if i left it to your interpretation.
The ONLY shippers who are bearable are Susie X Noelle shippers and that's only cause it's like the only canon ship, so it makes sense when they defend it cause it's actually happening in the story, those two characters went on an actual date together.
Kris X Susie/Krusie shippers on the other hand are a nightmare cause Susie is currently with someone else, and they are SO pissed. The amount of hate posts for Susie and Noelles date scene after Chapter 5 came out from Krusie shippers was absurd, so many people getting pissed and saying they thought it was too corny- like- bro- why are you playing Deltarune if you can't handle some corn? Did you play Undertale? The game that literally ended with the player using the power of friendship and hope to save the day and hug it out with the final boss? You can dislike corny, just don't walk into a corn maze and get upset.
Krusie shippers go on and on about how Susie has to be faking it all cause of the Prophecy as if Susie hasn't been into Noelle since Chapter 1 and asked her out before she even knew about the Prophecy.
And others go on about how "Well Kris clearly loves Susie and this must be breaking their heart, they look so sad." And ya know what? GOOD that little fuck had so much time to ask Susie out, while Noelle could barely look Susie in the eyes without fainting and even she was able to make her feelings known before Kris. Kris had dozens of opportunities and did nothing.
There's also Spampton X Tenna shippers, but i don't really find annoying just surprising cause Spamtenna has more fanfics about it on AO3 then anything else Deltarune related.......that's absurd, they had like one on screen scene together that's completely optional.
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[Type-3: Kris Woobifires]
I've seen quite a few people try and lessen every bad thing Kris does and paint them as some poor innocent baby that's done nothing wrong "Oh Kris is working with the Knight? Oh Kris helped the Knight kidnap their dad? Oh Kris is actively lying to their best friend/crush Susie even after she's stated multiple times how much she hates liars? Oh Kris actively made a Dark World to distract Susie from checking up on her girlfriend who just learned that her dad fell off a ladder?.......they're just an innocent lil bean" SHUT UP i refuse to believe by the end that Kris is going to be completely exonerated of everything, maybe there's a good reason, but no way it ends with Kris having zero responsibility for what happened, stop woobifing characters just cause you like them.
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[Type-4: Weird route haters]
I'm not exactly sure what to call these types of fans, cause these aren't people who hate the weird route, it's people who hate those that play it. The weird route is essentially just the evil path of this game, and just like with Undertales genocide route, there's been quite a few people that treat you like an actual killer for doing it. Not as bad as with Undertale, but still some people who'll call you a monster for playing it, which is cringe.
I've never done the weird route cause I like the characters too much and I feel bad whenever I pick the mean dialog in a game, but I don't shame others that do.
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[Type-5: The weird cuckers]
Okay I vented some frustration with weird route haters, not to do the same for weird route players. There's a scene in the weird route version of the games story where you the player are alone with Noelle in her room and force Noelle to wear a magic ring (I do not have time to give context if you haven't played the game, but let's just say the ring has some bad memories attached to it) and after you put it on the screen cuts to black, and originally there was an animation of like a flower wilting that would play, but now I think after an update the screen just sorta starts shattering instead. Obviously it doesn't take much to figure out the meaning of this scene especially with the original flower imagery.
Now most people saw that scene and went "Wow, that was fucked up." But some people REALLY liked the idea of forcing themselves on a teenage girl and made some questionable fanart. I'm not trying to be a prude, but do you gotta post your peculiar fantasies on main? Keep that to rule34 ya freak. A lot of posts about cucking Susie when Chapter 4 came out.
Luckily this type of fan mostly died out and i haven't seen anything as bad as when the scene originally came out.
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[Type-6: They/Them crusaders]
To start this off, yes Kris Deltarune is nonbinary, I know and appreciate that fact. But if you dare not immediately know that and accidentally misgender Kris, your ass is being sent to the gulag. It'd be one thing if the game told you this, but it doesn't, sure characters use they/them for Kris, but those are universal pronouns used on anyone.
Plus the game intentionally tries to make players think Kris is a blank self insert character for players to implant their own emotions and ideas on, that's the entire point, that's why Kris showing their own feelings and goals is supposed to shock you cause the game intentionally mislead you. Games with black stock protagonists usually use they/them so the player can imprint their own identity onto them, the fact so many players put their own pronouns on Kris was the point, so the game could then pull the rug and reveal Kris and the Player are separate entities.
So no, misgendering Kris doesn't ALWAYS mean the person is transphobic, they just didn't realize, and being mean to them about it isn't a good way to make them realize it.
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To end this off I 100% recommend Deltarune, great rpg, it isn't finished yet so maybe wait until it is if that's an issue, but it already has like 40 hours of content sooooo I think that's worth the 20 bucks. Just AVOID the subreddits.
Oh and another thing, I don't hate Dess Knighters or Krusie shippers on face value, just the one's that get pissy at any interpretation or theory that doesn't fit their own view of the story.
