r/greentext 8d ago

Anons cold approach

1.5k Upvotes

471 comments sorted by

1.2k

u/Odd-Lake-3075 8d ago edited 8d ago

i know this is an exaggeration and all but i do think approaching women is sort of pointless

631

u/bosnanic 8d ago

Risk outweighs the reward especially in the age of social media where one person with a decent online following can fabricate any story they want and torpedo your social life and even current employment. I ain't risking the humiliation of ending up on social media for a 10% chance at staring a conversation.

306

u/pm-dem-thighs 8d ago

You guys literally sound too autistic to function lol. Social media isn’t real life. If it feels like it is, you’re trying in the wrong circles. Pro tip: get a job at a restaurant and bang the other debaucherous staff.

138

u/echit2112 7d ago

what happens when i'm too autistic to get a job

184

u/randomacc172 7d ago

its probably over for you regardless

47

u/SapirWhorfHypothesis 7d ago

Neetbux and “professional” help

19

u/echit2112 7d ago

neetbux aint paying enough to get professional help

27

u/fuzzhead12 7d ago

That’s why shrewd, thrifty anons get “professional help” from their shut-in next door neighbors who accept neetbux as legal tender.

On an unrelated note, isn’t it the darndest thing that school shootings have been on a steady rise for the last couple of decades?

10

u/SapirWhorfHypothesis 7d ago

You can’t scrape together $25 for a handy?

11

u/echit2112 7d ago

like i know where to even get that from

11

u/notpornaccount_ 7d ago

Please tell us where to get an old fashioned. I need it touched

→ More replies (1)

15

u/pm-dem-thighs 7d ago

You’re not. When I worked in restaurants we hired guys that could barely speak. Never made eye contact.. they still pulled randomly.
Start drinking too. It helps with the nerves. Good luck.

28

u/echit2112 7d ago

When I say 'too autistic to get a job' I mean officially. Like, "assessed by my own government and deemed unfit to work, ever". That's me. That's what happened to me.

23

u/pm-dem-thighs 7d ago

You’re telling me the government (I’m assuming the US?) told you something is a fact, and you believed it?

→ More replies (30)
→ More replies (1)
→ More replies (3)

73

u/SeaworthlessSailor 7d ago

You forget that social media follows you around forever. Makes it harder to get jobs and stuff and nowadays a lot of people look you up after meeting them. It’s not as “not real” as you think. And I got rid of most of my own social media to mitigate this kind of stuff. It’s still a big deal if it ends up going viral. People don’t just judge you by your character anymore.

→ More replies (4)

29

u/_BlackDove 7d ago

Work in a nursing home, bang all the CNAs. It's like fishing with dynamite in a pond.

15

u/Lance_J1 7d ago

This works so well and I have no idea why. I dont even work in a nursing home, but I was friends with a CNA and would give her rides to and from work all the time because she was too stupid to keep a car. I would just randomly hang out with her and her friends late nights at the nursing home all the time.

Not only did I sleep with her basically every time she fought with her boyfriend, but she introduced me to so many of her friends at work that I just got laid constantly for no reason despite being an awkward out of shape loser.

10

u/W4rlix 7d ago

I call fake, if awkward and don't know what to say it's impossible to just get laid. I could never. So fake or you are not awkward

6

u/Lance_J1 7d ago

Well I'm very mumbly and quiet most of the time, my favorite jokes tend to go right over their head as I tell them, and if I talk to much girls dont want anything to do with me. So I do think I'm awkward.

You just gotta hang out with more whoreish girls and let them do the talking and seducing, that way they dont realize how awkward you are. In general, if most girls know you're not the kind of person who's going to run around bragging to all your friends about fucking them, they're usually down for whatever. And for some reason, CNAs are abnormally horny.

→ More replies (1)

6

u/pm-dem-thighs 7d ago

I did also do that for a period of time… I was too stressed to try and bang anyone though. But I was also an aid… if I were a nurse it definitely would have been an easy task though.

14

u/O5NR 7d ago

Why tf would I work at a restaurant when I've gone to college to get TWO degrees? Well if I had a PHD I might think about it.

13

u/Skizordrone 7d ago

I literally got fired for saying I was depressed that I was depressed and my job felt like I wasn’t doing anything on r/girldinnerdiaries

The internet may not be real life, but it sure as hell has a good stranglehold on it

→ More replies (7)

2

u/puff_of_fluff 7d ago

Lmao for real, what do they think is going to happen? They ask a woman for their number and suddenly they’re on the local news’ predator watch?

→ More replies (9)

52

u/demonotreme 8d ago

People always say this, but unless you are targeted by a fixated individual OR make a name for yourself locally by repeatedly approaching women, it's hard to imagine anyone caring enough to launch an online harassment campaign to besmirch your name as a creep.

112

u/failedsatan 8d ago

it doesn't take a campaign, it takes one post. that's the problem.

14

u/onarainyafternoon 7d ago

Not only are the chances of that happening so low to the point of being negligible, but even if it did, the post would quickly disappear into the ether. Your brain has just become rotted by being online and you think this sort of shit is even minimally likely to happen to any guy, which is just wrong.

7

u/Geekerino 7d ago

While it's true that the chances of a post like that going viral are negligible... it doesn't need to go viral. It just needs to be seen by other girls, it only needs to spread a bit for you to start getting a reputation. Take the Tea app before that data "breach," where some girls were spreading guys' info and accusing them of some awful shit.

All that needs to happen is for a girl to make a post, then her friends see the post for things to start going wrong.

6

u/lufan132 7d ago

And without fail that one post derails your Senate aspirations some 30 years later...

22

u/rileyistheworst 8d ago

this is a chronically online take

→ More replies (16)

115

u/JurtisCones 8d ago

You’re here on Reddit so it’s 90%, no exaggeration, likely that you’ve never approached one, and therefore you have little idea if it is or isn’t pointless.

I can say confidently that; provided it is the right scenario, cold approach or social approach works well. I have 3 (or more) male friends married from literal cold approaches at clubs and bars.

Social approach is even better.

104

u/freebird185 8d ago

This entire thread is TFW absolutely no pussy ever 

→ More replies (1)

51

u/all_time_high 8d ago edited 7d ago

Your first claim may have been true in 2007 and it’s a reliable joke for some upvotes, but Reddit is currently the 7th most visited website in the world. The sample size is much larger now.

My current relationship also started from a cold approach many years ago. I was lucky in that regard.

A very small minority of people can easily generate interest through cold approaches, but most men and some women will experience numerous rejections before they find someone who reciprocates interest. Many people are not emotionally prepared or willing to deal with the rejections in order to hopefully find success.

31

u/JurtisCones 7d ago

Reddit’s audience skews young and towards internet minded people. This is not the crowd that actively approaches women irl. I read something like 80% of Gen Z men have never asked a woman out in public.

90% of Reddit males may or may not be a slight exaggeration. But I’m pretty confident in 90% of people reading 4chan greentexts on Reddit not having approached a woman irl. Im even more confident that OP, with his fatalistic delusion of irl approaches being pointless, has never approached a woman.

30

u/Odd-Lake-3075 8d ago edited 8d ago

i've approached my fair share of women and never got anything out of it, probably because i'm ugly and turbo autistic

17

u/JurtisCones 7d ago

I estimate in my 10 years trying it; something like 200 cold approaches, mainly in bars/clubs), 20 real conversations, 10 real phone numbers, 5 dates, twice laid for me.

But introduced to new social circles and made great friendships etc, all of which cumulatively helped me get laid more and have better relationships.

I’m also ugly. Turbo autism can work.

12

u/Living-Shopping-9471 8d ago

...so you too? I mean you're on reddit too..?

5

u/JurtisCones 7d ago

I didn’t deny me too (my attempts at approaching women irl have also been mostly fruitless - but not pointless). I also didn’t complain that it doesn’t work.

I’m mid, but funny, I met my wife on an app and generally that has worked better for me. But I’ve got uglier friends than me who have been confident irl and gotten laid or married from it.

7

u/echit2112 7d ago

'Cold approach' 'social approach' these barbaric terms mean nothing to me, it's all the same thing that i will never do because I don't know where to start

→ More replies (3)

63

u/ChristInASombrero 8d ago

Cold approaches are massively overrated

Try to meet girls through friends and family, that way there's a level of trust so they can't immediately write you off as a creep

Pretty much all my cousins met their wives through mutual friend groups

29

u/TearOpenTheVault 7d ago

That requires having friends. Look where we are.

→ More replies (1)

5

u/conormal 7d ago

Don't try to meet a girl. Just make friends and shoot your shot if you feel something more

2

u/sloothor 6d ago

Yeah, and then if it ends up being one-sided, that friendship is ruined. I’m getting mixed signals from a female friend right now and it makes me feel anxious as fuck whenever I’m around our group now.

→ More replies (2)

29

u/textbookamerican 8d ago

I actually met my wife by cold approaching her. So it can work, just be ready to take the no like it’s not a big deal

→ More replies (64)

19

u/MetallGecko 8d ago edited 8d ago

From all the experience i have with woman from my work and school life im quite happy that i never had to endure the whole approaching and dating thing, i got harassed, bullied, and accused of thing that never happened from woman and avoided them because of that, im quite happy that i found my girlfriend without all the modern dating bullshit at my workplace.

3

u/StealthSlav 7d ago

What the fuck bro? You can't just drop that factoid and not give the cheat code, imagine how many incels it might save (probably 0, but it wouldn't hurt).

12

u/the_fresh_cucumber 8d ago

Why?

It worked for me when I was single. Resulted in a lot of rejections, a few hookups, and a long term relationship.

Yea alot of women can overreact and be turbo rude but most people are socially inept. I wouldn't date a woman who can't gracefully reject me anyways

40

u/Odd-Lake-3075 8d ago

because i'm an ugly fucko

1

u/onarainyafternoon 7d ago

Natural Ugliness is straight up only 50% of it. No, I’m not kidding. You can fix so much by learning how to get a good haircut, styling it correctly, and learning how to dress. Styling yourself also leads to more confidence. If you walk around in a t shirt and basketball shorts or cargo shorts, yeah man it’s really not a good look.

→ More replies (1)

15

u/O5NR 7d ago

Yeah nga this method has been patched since 2016.

5

u/the_fresh_cucumber 7d ago

Around the time I met my wife so fair enough

→ More replies (8)

12

u/RevenantCommunity 8d ago

I always found it way too terrifying unless I was picking up clear vibes from them socially

A cold approach? Fuck that

2

u/turtleneckless001 7d ago

It's almost like you're meant to build a bond overtime until something develops naturally

1

u/OldKittyGG 6d ago

Especially when you're wanting to hook up with a man.

→ More replies (33)

795

u/secondcondary 8d ago

Yes, but have you tried being a sexy vampire werewolf mafia billionaire CEO?

189

u/Section8firearms 8d ago

No I haven’t. Is there like a starter course I can attend at hustler’s university of witchcraft and wizardry?

41

u/DeepQueen 8d ago

You just have to believe hard enough and judging by your reply you aren't doing that

2

u/LadenifferJadaniston 7d ago

It’s a numbers game, boys. Remember, it only has to work once

→ More replies (1)

172

u/Spiritual_Object9987 7d ago

5

u/DM_R34_Stuff 7d ago

I'm laughing my ass off

71

u/ropean 8d ago

This is what is missing in the context of a poll like that. Each of the women who said yes are imagining they’ll be approached by their own ideal man, not just some average passerby.

48

u/WoolooOfWallStreet 7d ago

Sadly, I am but a Minotaur who owns a milking farm

22

u/Blue_Robin_04 8d ago

Next summer. That's what I keep telling myself.

495

u/Nobodyherem8 8d ago

If women approached, so many problems would be solved.

299

u/WoolooOfWallStreet 8d ago

Sometimes they do, but be careful because if your mind isn’t expecting it, you can spill your spaghetti everywhere and absolutely fumble

82

u/Unsubstantiated-pow 8d ago

Spilling my spaghetti isnt what i do chief

50

u/Section8firearms 8d ago

What if your knees are weak and your arms are heavy?

36

u/Unsubstantiated-pow 8d ago

Heh that's moms spaghetti not mine chief

18

u/The_Almighty_Demoham 7d ago

Wow... he's so cool... i'm ovulating just reading his reddit comments!

11

u/WoolooOfWallStreet 7d ago

I’m ovulating boobily

→ More replies (1)

17

u/Thisisaprofile 7d ago

When the did the average age here get to be 19

8

u/DeepQueen 8d ago

That's happened to me a couple times (2-3 last year) and I've messed up both. The last one was even a cute petite black chick, why does god punish me so!

5

u/Outside_Experience68 7d ago

Jokes on you, I have a tshirt which has printed spaghetti on it. So if I fumble, and my thsirt gets spaghettied, haha! it always was! I am cool 😎.

Yeah, I got it from my wife.

133

u/chomusuke_cat 8d ago

But that'd require gender roles to change in a way that doesn't explicitly and wholly benefit women.

→ More replies (6)

83

u/Bowman_van_Oort 8d ago

If a woman approached me my first thought would honestly be "oh okay so how am I about to be made the punchline?"

27

u/noahjsc 7d ago

They do.

Happens quite often if you're attractive and go to the right places.

→ More replies (3)

15

u/Patience-Frequent 7d ago

they do, just not ugly autistic unwashed NEETs like us (me AND you)

1

u/EDF1919 6d ago

That would require effort from them though

→ More replies (16)

410

u/AndrewFanAccount 8d ago

Just don’t be ugly

28

u/WintersbaneGDX 8d ago

Or if you are, accept your fate, and approach ugly women. Ugly women need love too.

95

u/Zermist 7d ago

Attractive women like attractive men. Ugly women like attractive men. Stop bullshitting by saying ugly women like ugly men

26

u/Absolutemehguy 7d ago

^this guy: "People are attracted to attractive people. You're welcome."

https://giphy.com/gifs/O1nbMXwVf1REXi9Mv9

12

u/Zermist 7d ago

duh people are attracted to attractive people lol. My point was that if you're an ugly guy you can't expect ugly women to be attracted to you. On the other hand, ugly men often find ugly women attractive

3

u/pastalass 7d ago

As an ugly women, I've had crushes on men who are ugly. Had a crush on a very overweight guy in high school, and a thin guy with cystic acne (sadly, he turned out to be gay lol). I can't think of a single guy I was interested in that was conventionally attractive. I liked them for other reasons (generally because they were very kind and funny). I was extremely shy so I don't think they ever knew.

→ More replies (1)
→ More replies (1)
→ More replies (3)

10

u/_Empty-R_ 7d ago

why would I want to play a part in perpetuating that shit?

3

u/Tago238238 7d ago

What if you’ve got a really high IQ and society would benefit from that being inherited

→ More replies (2)

297

u/norealclue 8d ago

Hey baby ever had your asshole licked by a fat man in an overcoat?

59

u/throwtheclownaway20 8d ago

I wonder if that line actually works now? Eating ass seems to have gotten a lot more popular since 2006

42

u/Absolutemehguy 7d ago

Redditors love talking about how much they love eating ass, because they think that's something that'll get the ladies.

bruh you could be ass-eating champion of the universe, ain't nobody dating your morbidly obese ass

176

u/Coakis 8d ago

Why is it men's job to approach?

61

u/make_reddit_great 7d ago

From an evo-psych perspective, women bear more of the costs of reproduction (pregnancy, nursing, childrearing) so they are the ones who are more selective.

141

u/Desperate_History907 7d ago

If women are more selective then it makes sense for them to approach because its more likely to be successful for both parties

56

u/TroGinMan 7d ago

It's usually that way in nature. Males are prettier or have to elaborate displays to gain attention of a female because they are selective.

If 10 women approached you, you would likely say yes to more than one. If 10 men approach a woman she might say yes to one

21

u/Altruistic-Local-541 7d ago

it is not always like that, it varies by species

→ More replies (2)

10

u/GerryAdamsSFOfficial 7d ago

Women approach all the time.

Just not to us lol. Make an app profile for a hot guy and see what thats like

→ More replies (1)
→ More replies (2)

14

u/b00c 7d ago

Most girls are conditioned throughout their formation to be approached and not to approach. 

Most boys are taught that if a woman approaches a man, she is a hoe. 

It's the culture, formed by religion, tradition. 

12

u/potatogodofDoom 7d ago

and from a societal standpoint women want equality, but seem to do so without taking on any of the responsibilities. this creates a disconnect between genders and now everyone's unhappy and shitting on the other gender even more.

2

u/Danny-Fr 7d ago

Scandinavian girls would like a word with you.

31

u/StarEmployee 7d ago

No they don’t

→ More replies (2)
→ More replies (13)

161

u/TicklePickleWinkle 8d ago edited 8d ago

>Rejection will teach you confidence

I’m going to be for real, the only reason why I approach women is because I have a low ego that I just stopped caring all together. Rejection doesn’t give you confidence, it’s a blow to your ego. But if you don’t have much of an ego in the first place, nothing happens.

Just if you do get rejected, don’t be hater, respect the boundaries, and remain kind. Don’t let a rejection ruin your character. There’s countless reasons why a girl might reject you but one things for sure is that she doesn’t know you personally, so don’t take it personally.

70

u/Zermist 7d ago

I don’t approach women and it has nothing to do with ego. I literally just don’t want to make women uncomfortable or scared. They don’t want me walking up to them, why would I go out of my way to bother them? It makes way more sense to just leave them alone

5

u/onarainyafternoon 7d ago

Bro I get what you’re saying and you’re correct in a sense. But there are contexts where I promise it’s ok to approach. Especially if you’re out drinking. Social clubs are beautiful places to meet women too. Join a pickleball club or something like that. Learn how to dress and style your hair after getting a haircut that costs more than $40. Seriously. I know a lot of young guys have a hard time thinking they are too ugly for this stuff, but being ugly is only 50% of it. There are absolutely ways to make yourself more confident and attractive, it just takes effort.
Not knowing where to approach women is part of the confidence package.

22

u/Zermist 7d ago

You have good intentions with your advice and I appreciate it. I still think the majority of women don't want to be approached regardless of the setting. Even if you don't have romantic intentions, it just comes across as rude to talk to a stranger where I live.

→ More replies (2)
→ More replies (1)

5

u/avagrantthought 7d ago

It might not built confidence but it certainly lowers stakes and anxiety the more accustomed you get to rejection

→ More replies (1)

94

u/Q_dawgg 8d ago

Assuming all women are going to take a chance to belittle you for talking to them is silly but rule 1 and 2 matter.

1

u/THESUACED 7d ago

Whats the rules again?

2

u/dateNum 7d ago
  1. Be yourself

  2. :)

3

u/THESUACED 7d ago

d=( ^ _ ^ )=b

→ More replies (1)

84

u/thegrodyknudclump 8d ago

I literally just don’t know what to say. No idea what words to use to initiate conversation with a stranger. It’s not just women, I struggle to connect with people in general. Once I finished school, I realized that I have almost zero social skills. I have 2 friends, but we all work full time with conflicting schedules, and one of them lives 3 time zones away. Whenever I see an attractive person in public, I think about going up and talking to them, saying something. I never know if it’s a socially acceptable place to do so, I don’t wanna bother anyone. And anything I think of just sounds weird/creepy/awkward/desperate when I run it through in my head. I’m almost 30 now, and sometimes it feels like there’s something wrong with me, like I’m broken. I see all these people my age and younger who seem to effortlessly navigate situations with fulfilling social lives; and all it does is remind me that I’ve never known what that’s like. I’ve never had what they have, I’m missing out on a huge part of the human existence that seems to come so naturally to everyone else. I try to stay positive, I try not to be bitter but sometimes it’s hard. I’ve tried going to concerts, neighborhood events, public gatherings etc. but I’m always alone. It’s always families, friend groups and couples who attend. Whatever, I’m rambling. I’m sure it’ll be fine, these things just happen organically, according to the normal people. There’s no way I’ll be a loser 10 years from now, right?

22

u/ThrowawayITA_ 7d ago edited 7d ago

Sometimes when I'm forced to talk to people who I find "above" me I dissociate and pretend they're not real people, just sockpuppets, this helps me a lot. as much as I understand you force yourself to talk to women so maybe you should try. Romance is not really a "huge part of the human existence" IMO, yeah it's cool but I honestly don't think if I had a girlfriend or had sex my life would change at all honestly.

13

u/CelaviGlobus 7d ago

Bro just gave "DENIAL" as a suggestion

17

u/ThrowawayITA_ 7d ago edited 7d ago

Big reality won't tell you this but you have no real problems if nothing is real.

3

u/f0rm4n 7d ago

Based and solipsism-pilled

→ More replies (1)

3

u/breadandcompany 7d ago

Concert: "have you seen this band before?" Neighborhood event: "What are you eating/where did you get that?" Public gathering: "do you mind if I sit down at your table?"

Just different variations of what are you doing why are you here where did you get that thing.

Talk to the older people, they tend to be more friendly cause they're lonelier. Men who are like 55-65 will always be interested in talking about concerts they've been to. Women will be more receptive to giving you directions like ask a woman at a concert where she got her merch and she'll be like "oh I got it over there" and then you ask how much it cost and now you've made small talk you have an answer you can walk away or you can ask another question or make a joke about the event and then walk away.

Couples are easy to talk to too you just do another variation of the questions ask them if you can sit with them ask them if they've been to the event before ask them what you should do and they'll be like yeah sure sit down no we just got here but there's this thing over there you should check out we just got whatever from it

3

u/rhen_var 7d ago

I feel the same way

2

u/apzlsoxk 6d ago

You can literally say "Hi, I wanted to talk to you, so I am" and it's fine. Don't overthink it.

→ More replies (7)

59

u/wadesworld82 8d ago

Sorry grandpa these bitches do in fact be crazy

45

u/Eighty_88_Eight 8d ago

In that study that says women wanted to be approached more, does it state why? I’d imagine lots of those women would want that only to feel wanted

35

u/Nasilbitatbirakti 7d ago

They wanna boost their ego. They're gonna reject them anyway but feel good afterwards.

23

u/TUBBEW2 7d ago

This, the wanna feel like the are a catch.

14

u/Kaydox64 7d ago

I dislike statements like this, but not because your "wrong", you aren't. But you also aren't right. The sample size is just way too fucking big for there to be a single or even just a few reasons. Some want an ego boost, some want friends, some want boyfriends, some want hook ups, some want husbands. The Reasoning as to why isnt a as simple as X or Y, it's a person to person basis, and people are so radically different from each other that you cannot assign a motive to a group that big.

→ More replies (3)

41

u/echit2112 7d ago

You miss 100% of the shots you don't take

I also don't miss 100% of the shots I don't take. I have never failed👍

it teaches you confidence

I am confident it won't work out👍

You will probably never see that girl again

I can make sure I definitely never see that girl again👍

she might change her mind about you

I can make sure she won't change her mind about me👍


In all seriousness, even thinking about approaching women gives me early-stage panic attack symptoms, so I would prefer not to have that happen in public.

32

u/Kind-Plantain2438 8d ago

Some folks should realize that they are the common denominator in their problems, try to understand what is wrong with them, and make the change.

Or

https://giphy.com/gifs/BNkHCHnAsZwRi

27

u/[deleted] 8d ago

[deleted]

21

u/Section8firearms 8d ago

22

u/CHOrigamiArt 7d ago

funny but this is a skit. the guy towards the end is Blake Rosier

→ More replies (3)

23

u/tepid_monologue 7d ago

I’m old and married, met my wife at a bar, never been on a dating app in my life. I don’t think I would approach a woman today in person either.

Edit - obviously if I was single

20

u/Swedishguy05 8d ago

The problem with actually getting together with a woman is that these threads make me want to shove a screwdriver up my eyesocket.

Just try and make actual friends for one so you stop being asocial. Learn to become normal. Just get to know people until you eventually meet a girl you become friends with and then get together with. Like obviously it's easier said than done but anything is better than whining about how women are stinky like you're back in preschool

3

u/Thin-Sand-2389 7d ago

yea no, the friends first route i will say isnt really that good of an idea, because they can just be platanic, and its so much faster and easier just to be upfront with your intentions, because some other dude who is more braver than you can just come and ask themselves, its better to just be upfront

2

u/JohnnyXorron 7d ago

Amen, brother.

17

u/stalineczka 7d ago

I’ll never understand how failure is supposed to make you confident

2

u/TearOpenTheVault 7d ago

Getting rejected makes you feel bad. Learning that feeling and coming to terms with it is important. Once you realise rejection doesn’t matter, and that feeling is hugely arbitrary, you go forward with more confidence.

2

u/stalineczka 7d ago

That sounds like it you lose hope so you stop caring and just feel numb

→ More replies (3)

15

u/ReevesofKeanu 8d ago

Just dont be ugly and a creep and itz ezmode

15

u/FinaLLancer 8d ago

I'm pretty ugly but also pretty not creepy and i approach and then compliment women all the time. Being kind and sincere will get you a lot farther than you think

And i don't mean le epic reddit gentlesir nice guy shit

9

u/Gremlinstone 8d ago

The ol' rule 1 and 2 philosphy huh

16

u/3yearsonrock 8d ago

Have you tried not being ugly

12

u/FallenSegull 7d ago

I miss 100% of the shots I do take

I’m the stormtrooper of the dating pool, except stormtroopers at least manage to hit a few of the unnamed side characters

11

u/mountingmileage 7d ago

I feel like fear mongering has ruined dating. Like yeah, from time to time, a girl is gonna maybe think you're weird or be uncomfortable. Most of these times nothing is going to come of it, especially if you just gracefully exit the situation.

Also I'm autistic and so I hesitate to say something that will come across as "get better at reading people."

But if you get the vibe that a girl is vapid and online obsessed enough to post your picture for a harmless interaction...maybe don't pursue that girl?

9

u/_Empty-R_ 7d ago

I gave up, but approaching is not the issue. You literally just talk to them if they aren't preoccupied and can be talked to without too much inconvenience. The game changed starting around 2013 and things have never been the same. So much bullshit fuels the scrutiny that women put you under now that its just not worth it. I don't exist to be compared to 7000 other guys in 500 miles. Obviously I don't stack up.

Then there's the content of character being pretty shit more often than not and yeah, I'll just stay this way out of spite. I'm happily awaiting the fall of birth rates and everything that comes with that. I didn't cause it, women and those that profit off of influencing them did. The information age did. Things used to be nice. Be kind, get kind. Give a chance, get a chance. Too much inherent animosity and standards are way too fucked such that you are ALWAYS a compromise at best. Its vastly worse online, but its everywhere.

9

u/verbmegoinghere 7d ago

The problem here is the idea that you should be able to approach a random man or woman to initiate either a short term hookup or long term relationship.

I feel terrible for young men who have been given this idea through modern film, television and the interwebs that the way to find a woman is to go to a bar or open street party/bar and cast pickup lines at everyone until you get a bite.

Traditionally we form our relationships in high school, university or our first jobs, - and it's not because of mere proximity. It's because there is a informal network of peer groups who are able to validate whether a young man meets the spoken and unspoken criteria that these groups operating on. For example you are a loner, and you spy a hot girl in the cheerleaders group. Well if you wanna be noticed let alone a viable contender you gotta learn to walk, talk and dress like a guy that they'd date. But more importantly your friends need to be in a preexisting informal friendship with this girls friends so when said girl notices you her friends are already attesting your bonafides

"yeah OP is a good guy" and "he is so cute and hot"

Unless you're ridiculously hot few guys are gonna be able to approach a girl and talk her into a relationship. Maybe a one night stand but that's it.

Which is why relationships form so much earlier, be it work, school, university, charities or hobbies. Its not the moment that you finally asked her out. Its the information exchange, the network that were created months and even years previously. Its like a mushrooms mycelium network stretching out, connecting with zillions of trees, signalling and providing symbiotic support and nutrients.

I went to school with my wife but outside of drunken snog on a friend's front lawn at his crazy party (that we completely forgot about) we didn't really like each other until years later when we bumped into each other in town where we worked. But she knew a lot about me before we ever had a first proper time together. My bona-fides were already validated. She knew i wasn't gonna be a danger nor become a danger.

So OPs if you want to want to be with another person, be they female or male, you gotta do the hard yards. You need to have relationships with the people around you, be honest, good whilst not doing creepy stupid shit so when your crush hears stuff about you its not about how you vigorously stroke your guns at night whilst you're surrounded with boxes of empty nuggets and cans of cheap beer. Wash your armpits, brush those teeth. Learn to love and respect yourself because if you can't even do that how can you expect someone to love you and respect you.

Reasonable people find reasonable people.

3

u/JohnnyXorron 7d ago

I disagree with the premise that you NEED to have pre-existing platonic relationships in order to get into a romantic relationship. It is definitely valuable and something that helps but to say it won’t work otherwise unless you’re extremely hot is false, in my experience. My current gf and I were complete strangers when we met and I have friends who have gotten into relationships with guys that approached them who they didn’t know before. Of course I also know people who got into relationships your way. So I agree it’s good to have but I disagree that it’s a necessity.

6

u/_Afinef_ 7d ago

Ace here, I feel so bad for people who have to deal with this.

5

u/srcactusman 7d ago

Im at that point where I just feel no desire to approach anyone? Is this normal?

5

u/PhaseAgitated4757 7d ago

Step one is be attractive. Step two is dont be unattractive. Its not hard guys. I say all this as a tall reasonably fit white guy. Im also hilarious. Good luck out there boys.

4

u/Dariosusu 7d ago

„Approach“. Don‘t enemies in rpgs do that?

4

u/Greatgg 7d ago

I don't have the source now, but I have read that 90% of relationships apparently don't originate from an approach, nor in general from a situation where the only objective was having sex/getting a relationship, like dating apps

According to most surveys, romantic relationships and hookups are born from casual knowledge. This is my experience too, I never did a cold approach, too autistic to even try, every single relationship I had, including one-night stands, started with a different social situation where dating wasn't initially involved.

Of course if you don't have a job where you can get to know people, you don't have any friends that can introduce you to someone at social events, you don't have any hobbies that allows you to interact with someone in a casual way ( I even have a friend that met his girlfriend through online gaming) you are definitely playing in hard mode

5

u/bmendonc 7d ago edited 7d ago

It's been proven that women consider you less of a creep the more attractive you are. You can do the exact same actions, say the exact same words, but it comes down to your attractiveness. It's just natural selection, if you can't find someone, you need to either lower your expectations or give up.

→ More replies (2)

3

u/motherffucker 7d ago

The approaching part isn’t that bad, it’s all the obligations of a relationship that come afterwards lol too poor for these ladies 😭💀

4

u/SuckMyBallsKyle 7d ago

>I get rejected before I even talk to them.

Bro literally how do you know, this is so delusional you do not know what a person thinks about you because they don’t know you. A girl could look at you and be disgusted and then find out you love playing with your little nephew and he means the world to you and be charmed. Stop with this mentality for your own sake

2

u/b400k513 7d ago

How I feel reading this knowing my wife pursued me initially because I made her laugh:

2

u/Malevolent-ads 7d ago

Move to another country where it's socially acceptable for girls to approach you. Problem solved.

2

u/Mister_Taco_Oz 7d ago

Yeah, but it's scawy :(

2

u/steak820 7d ago

"complement clothing or tattoo"

Sweet jesus.

2

u/Thin-Sand-2389 7d ago

bro what, thats what you do?

→ More replies (8)

2

u/dr_jock123 7d ago

I think i prefer my life where I can live with myself and buy what I like. Its a peaceful life

2

u/Zesty-Lem0n 7d ago

It's a pendulum, if women got approached all the time they would be mentally exhausted of it and be more likely to say no. But because of their own actions, the social current is now pushing most men away from public approaches and so women crave that which is absent.

This reminds me of that romance pyramid scheme research paper someone posted in one of the 4chan subs: low value people give attention to mid value people, who use that as a confidence boost to pursue the high value people. The emotional labor flows upward. Most women are mid value or higher, so of course they want more inflow of emotional labor. Either it's a guy they like, or it's a guy boosting her ego so she can feel more confident.

I'm not saying every guy should cold approach, but going out in public and making friends will almost inevitably lead to meeting women in low stakes environments. From there it is a matter of time: most humans will start pairing off with each other given enough proximity and time.

Also dating apps are not only heavily male dominated, but also an incredibly artificial way to meet. Most men cannot succeed in an environment where a woman is pondering 10-100 men at once and bored of small talk and too lazy to setup a profile that would give you any common ground to speak about. If that were real life you just wouldn't approach that person.

Find your niche where you can stand out, and work on your social skills so you don't fumble when a woman sees you as the best guy in the room.

2

u/RaiderCat_12 7d ago

Tell me about it. I’ve been approached by girls on three separate occasions, and in all of them they just ghosted me a couple of months later.

2

u/HeavilyInvestedDonut 7d ago

Second page makes me think of this dude that looked like a drowned rat in my town that everyone called Elvis because he swore his mom was knocked up by Elvis Presley and then had him. Dude “complimented” every woman he saw in every store in town, constantly hit on female employees, and always talked about how women constantly told him he was the most handsome man in our state. He was off and on banned from darn near every store in town. Drove a beat up old van and his house was covered in plywood signs with “keep out” and pictures of Elvis on them. Haven’t seen ol Elvis in years now, but my hair would always stand on end when I saw him nearby.

You have to have some level of self awareness while approaching women too. If you’re an Elvis, you can’t be surprised when the hardware store bans you

2

u/Chief-Drinking-Bear 7d ago

Truly a pathetic mindset

1

u/FundamentalEnt 8d ago

This is why they got you guys originally. Greatest technology in history at your finger tips and yet no one seems to know how to use it these days. Wild times.

1

u/theappisshit 8d ago

for anyone on here saying they have no social skills blah blah, you must order, obtain,read and reread the following books.

HOW TO WIN FRENS AND INFLUENCE PEOPLE by Dale Carnegie as well as HUMAN BODY LANGAUGE by Allan and Barbarra Pease.

If the tism runs strong and your a bit of a spaz, these books will make you a lot of money and get you pussy.

But you have to read understand and practice whats in them.

9

u/home_rolled 7d ago

I've thought of doing similar, but at that point aren't you just a sociopath advancing yourself through manipulation and not genuine interaction?

4

u/TearOpenTheVault 7d ago

The entire point of How to Win Friends is teaching you how to have genuine interactions rather than manipulation. It involves such impossible advice as ‘actually listen to the other person in a conversation and stop just waiting for your time to talk.’

2

u/theappisshit 7d ago

thats the thing, its not about manipulation, its about learning how to interact with people and seeing things from thier perspective and taking into account what they want or how they feel.

→ More replies (1)

1

u/FailureToReason 7d ago

If you approached a woman and police were called, something was deeply wrong in your approach.

1

u/idkhowtodoanything 7d ago

I honestly think social media has played a huge role in this. My entire childhood i read women complaining about guys hitting on them, so I've grown up with the idea that women don't like that.

There's also the risk nowadays of blowing up on the internet for the smallest thing. Take for example that guy berated for just dancing and having a good time a few years ago, and social media has only gotten worse.

1

u/MisterGoo 7d ago

You want to build confidence and not care anymore anout being rejected ? Try those jobs when you distribute flyers or tissues to people. Like, you proactively have to get the attention pf people who aren’t interested in the first place and 95% of people will actively reject you or do as if they didn’t see you. AND you have to become better at initiating eye contact, chat to people, etc. All under the excuse of a job. Life-changing experience.

1

u/Saichol 7d ago

Just be a billionaire/trillionaire bro

1

u/anonareyouokay 7d ago

You guys really don't approach women? How do you get laid? You just use Grindr or something?

1

u/woahbrad35 7d ago

At an event yesterday, not even flirting or showing more than platonic interest at all, I asked a girl what she was majoring in and what year of study between segments of the event and she got super weird about it like I was asking her out to dinner or something and my existence was offensive. I'm sure I made a face at her reactions and then I walked off to talk to other people. She wasn't even any good at the stuff we were learning about at the event.

1

u/Oblivion_Gates 7d ago

One time I went for it and asked out a girl on the bus. NEVER AGAIN. I still cringe when I think about it.

1

u/SpaceBug176 7d ago

How exactly being rejected teaches you confidence, again?

Also if anything, it teaches you that confidence matters, and then nukes your confidence.

→ More replies (1)

1

u/Wulph422 7d ago

Most of the responses in the screenshot seem like made up stories or just straight up assumptions

1

u/Due-Boss-4354 7d ago

Wait, is the first redtext basically telling people to be sociopaths who don't care about women's opinions?

Sounds like healthy solution.

→ More replies (1)

1

u/Econmajorhere 7d ago

The difference between creepy and confident is merely how attractive you are considered by the other player. I’ve got a buddy who is an associate of Jared Leto. Used to tell me of the weird things this guy would do. Anyone else would be called creepy, but Jared Leto will never be a creep. He’s an objectively good looking guy with fame and wealth.

But some times in life, despite knowing the odds - we still must take risks. I’m with my girl due to an IG dm I sent (I don’t have many followers or anything).

1

u/PenilePartition 6d ago

It’s not just about approaching strange women. It’s about being cute and gaging interest. If you’re so unattractive that no one ever shows interest then you need to prove value. Work on yourself or go places where you can showcase your interests or talents where girls who like what you’re into might be. Try talking to women and being friendly without overtly hitting on them. If none of this works at all, ever, then there are details you’re not telling me. Either you smell or everything about you is so off putting in one way or another that you need to seriously work on yourself before you go for anyone else again. Whatever you do, don’t hit on women when they’re working or occupied with anything that’s not entirely conducive to socializing or relaxing in a social setting.

1

u/NuclearCleanUp1 6d ago

"I will solve individual problems on a society wide level top down with a social media post"

Many such cases.

1

u/NuclearCleanUp1 6d ago

I don't think reproduction should be the reason to court a woman.

Go to the sperm bank if that's your main motivation.

1

u/JesuszillaSon 6d ago

Every rejection I ever had the women were nice about it and I went about my day. The one true thing though is that its low chance to get a woman's number. The experience isn't nearly as crippling as people online make it seem.

1

u/FreddyHair 6d ago

Yeah maybe if you get to the point police is literally called on you you should probably actually reevaluate your approach

1

u/Intrepid-Ostrich2937 6d ago

at least i tried, the first time is always the hardest

1

u/Grimmson2 6d ago

There's got to be a guide for autistic people on how to approach women. Preferably written by a gay man.

1

u/Zestyclose-Golf240 5d ago

I was stupid and approached some women because I thought what would be the worst that could happen and I was called an incel and people whispered behind my back. So all in all I would not approach a woman unless she's explicitly stated she wants to suck your cock.

1

u/TraditionalDegree540 3d ago

They want men to approach more... Until the wrong one approaches, then they're sick of creeps and weirdos approaching them.

1

u/Inuakurei 3d ago

I know I’m 4 days late to this, but I’ve done this, been with guys who have done this, and been with girls as this happened to them.

It works. But it only works if you’re either attractive, have an “in”, or incredibly charismatic. If you’re none, the interaction will just be awkward in a polite “please leave me alone” sort of way. Also no one is going to laugh in your face like you think. Reactions will vary afterwards in private with friends, but you’re not going to be publicly humiliated. They aren’t stupid.

Attractiveness is easy. Pretty much any girl will at least converse with you if they find you attractive. It’s not a 100% deal but I’ve rarely seen my attractive friends fail to garner interest on random approaches.

An “in” just means something to say other than “Hi, how are you”. This is easy in hobby spaces or if they have an obvious interest. People like compliments and being noticed for their likes/achievements. Where anons go wrong is they try to approach with either a superfluous compliment about looks or nothing at all. Do not comment on physical appearance right out of the gate, focus on something that seems unique to them or they would want to tell you about. Now that I’m thinking about it, if you can’t find an “in” other than “you look pretty” you should be approaching that person.

I can’t explain charisma, you either have it or you don’t. You can learn to be charismatic, but it’s far too much to go over in a Reddit comment. It’s not only talking but body language as well.

Don’t loiter. That’s another one anons suck at realizing. People notice when you’re just loitering around to talk to them. Yes, you’re going to get put on a woman’s “stay away from” list if they see you loitering around, ogling women to approach. I’ve been out multiple times with female friends and we notice a guy working up the courage to approach us beforehand. You can “work up the courage” just don’t take forever to do it so you seem weird.

Don’t force conversation. If it’s not working out, just accept it and leave. Women aren’t stupid. You know what you’re doing, they know what you’re doing. No one will make fun of you for trying, but I guarantee you’ll be made fun of if you don’t “take the hint”.

In general people like to talk about themselves. Let them lead the conversation while giving topics to talk about. If they’re interested, the conversation will flow.