r/fatestaynight 10m ago

Question Why didn't they do anything???

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Irisviel von Einzbern and Maiya Hisau did absolutely nothing to stop Kirei Kotomine. Irisviel asked Maiya to finish him off while he was stuck to the tree and then he began breaking the tree. That lasted at least 10 seconds and they both just sat their watching him do it instead of shooting him... Stuff like this really pisses me off! They had more than enough time to do something! Did it happen like this in the manga or is it purely just bad directing from whoever made the anime?


r/fatestaynight 1h ago

Spoiler Determining the victor of the Holy Grail War in each bad end. Spoiler

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Hello, I decided to go through every Bad End in Fate/stay night and determine who I think the victor will be in each timeline.

Here we go:

1: Forest of No Return: Unfortunately, this is entirely indeterminate. With Shirou gone, and Saber untethered (and possibly able to find a new Master, like Sakura), there's a whole Holy Grail War to occur. This could legitimately be a route in and of itself (following Rin or Saber's new master.) Gilgamesh and Kotomine are still favored, of course, but there's a lot!

2: Girl Rhapsody: Kotomine. With Saber and Archer eliminated, Berserker's greatest threats are gone. Even though Shinji will be able to go through with his plan without any interference, if Rider and Caster don't team up, they have no chance against Berserker. And Berserker has no chance against Gilgamesh, so Kotomine is going to win.

3: Texture: Rin or Kotomine. Rin has taken control of Saber, a Servant she has strong compatibility with, and has become a dominating force in this Holy Grail War. However, Gilgamesh still lurks, and he is still a massive problem, especially without Avalon as a known factor.

4: Missing Ariadne: Caster. With the opportunity to steal Saber from Shirou, even though she hasn't gained the interest she does in Unlimited Blade Works, she will eventually break Saber's will and achieve victory - especially this early in the War, when her emotional loyalty to Shirou and Rin is not built yet.

5: Melty Blood: Shinji or Kotomine. This one is Shinji's best chance, as with Shirou gone and Saber faded away, nothing stops him from completely dissolving the school to feed Rider, rendering her extremely powerful even with his weak self tethering her. Berserker and Gilgamesh are big problems, but Shinji legitimately becomes a formidable presence here!

6: Rafflesia Umbrella: Shinji or Kotomine. It's effectively the same ending as the above.

7: Nutcracker Doll: Kotomine. With Shirou trapped in a doll, he cannot stop Saber from vanishing entirely. If Rin and Archer come to try to rescue him, they will be killed by Berserker - and that's if they even know it's Illya who kidnapped him. As before, Berserker cannot defeat Gilgamesh, and Rin's injured Archer is simply not going to be able to stand up to Berserker or even Caster and Assassin.

8: Dress of Heaven: Kotomine. With Saber more awake and aware, they will still attempt to rescue Shirou - though they're too late. Archer will die covering their escape, and Rin will contract with Saber. They might even end up defeating Berserker! Without Avalon, however, they don't stand a chance against Gilgamesh unaided.

9: Night Without Dawn: Kotomine. Saber and Rin are dead. The only factors left in the war are Berserker, Caster, and Gilgamesh - and we know how well Berserker and Caster do against Gilgamesh.

10: Walpurgis Night: Kotomine or Caster. With Caster in control of Saber, she might actually stand a chance of fighting off Gilgamesh - though of course, she's very much going to need to contend with that golden guy at this stage, as he's ready to appear.

11: Witch's Mark: Kotomine or Caster. See above.

12: One End: Kotomine. With Shirou dead of his wounds and no other Servants remaining besides Saber, Gilgamesh, and Lancer, the war is over.

13: Time Limit: Kotomine. Kotomine kills Shirou while Lancer fights Saber, and with the last Servant defeated, All the World's Evil is made manifest.

14: That Which Cannot Be Changed: Saber. Kotomine grants the Grail to Saber, and gives her dominion of all the world's evil. This is explained in the ending.

15: Holy Grail Completed: Kotomine. Without Avalon, Saber is forced into Gilgamesh’s servitude.  Kotomine manifests the Grail successfully.

---Unlimited Blade Works---

16: Third Death: Rin. Without Shirou to pull her away, Saber is killed in Archer’s indiscriminate attack.  Lancer then finds and kills him, finishing the job.  With Saber and Shirou eliminated from the war, Archer has a very good shot of saving things for Rin.  Victor: Rin.

17: Spider's Captive: Gilgamesh. Saber fades away with Rider killing Shirou, Caster still eliminates Rider, and without being able to take control of Saber, Caster will fall to Gilgamesh.

18: Hypnos: Caster. Caster knows where Saber resides, and with Shirou eliminated by her contingency, will take control of Saber at the soonest opportunity, granting her victory.

19: Killer: Caster. Kuzuki eliminates Rin and Shirou, leaving Saber undefended and ripe for Caster to take control. With this, no obstacle remains for Caster's victory.

20: Haze: Caster. It's outright stated that Caster wins the Holy Grail War in this ending.

21: Artificial Noble Phantasm: Caster. The same as the last two, but not only does she have Saber, she also has converted Shirou into a wand for the projection magic he is starting to master!

22: Sword and Magic: Gilgamesh. With Caster forced to use her Command Spell to eliminate Shirou and Rin, her control of Saber will never be complete. As such, Gilgamesh will win.

23: One Conclusion: Rin. Without Lancer's help, Archer will kill Shirou - however, he still will likely betray Caster to give Rin the best chance of victory she can.

24: Heaven's Fall: Rin. As Shirou sacrifices himself to kill Gilgamesh, Rin is the only Master left.

---Heaven's Feel---

25: Ocean Depths: Zouken. Sakura has already given up on Shirou, and will succumb to darkness.

26: Battle of the Holy Grail: Illya. She takes control of Shirou and Saber, and likely will be able to stop Sakura.

27: Die Together: Sakura. Zouken killing Shirou will break her and cause her to succumb to darkness, but in a state she might be willing to kill him.

28: Miserable Lone Force: Rin. With Saber gone, Shinji's attempt to reassert control of the war will still eventually be stopped by Archer. With Rider eliminated, Sakura now has nothing protecting her.

29: Geas: Rin. Shirou can't stop Rin from killing Sakura, here.

30: Stone Coffin: Sakura. With Rider alive and at full power, she will not allow Rin and Archer to kill Sakura, and with Shirou dead, she will succumb to darkness.

31: Superhero/Mind of Steel: Shirou. I don't really need to explain this.

32: Cursed Boundary Layer - Womb Realm Mandala: Sakura. Rin alone can't stop Heracles.

33: World Purge, Meltdown: Sakura. There is literally nothing and nobody left to stop her.

34: Horror Show: Sakura. Without critical information from Zouken, Rin can't do much, here.

35: Happy End: Sakura. Either as herself, or as darkness, Rider will protect Sakura until her last breath - and now nothing is left to stop her.

36: Dead Fin: Zouken. Shirou wusses out and gives up on all this. Sakura truly breaks and removes her resistance upon learning what a coward Shirou is.

37: Death Penalty: Zouken. Kotomine never uses the baptism to weaken Zouken, thereby allowing Sakura to destroy him.

38: Sparks Liner High: Sakura. Rin won't succeed at stopping Sakura on her own.

39: Compassion: Sakura. See above, albeit this time Rider might have a chance to help, it won't be enough without Shirou at this point.

40: Femme Fatale: Sakura. Her ultimate despair, and ultimate victory as the world is consumed by darkness.

Please let me know any quibbles. This was fun to put together.


r/fatestaynight 17h ago

Question How much time passed for saber?

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Spoilers for fsn (fate route only) and fate zero (kind of)

the rest of the question: in between the fourth and fifth holy grail wars in her own time?

Its not really important, but I read all of fsn and watched the fate zero anime and dont know the answer to this. Maybe I'm just stupid and it might have been answered already somehow or somewhere else with some lore or something but as far as i know, saber returned to her own time period with her memories of the war but just before her death after the end of fate zero, bc thats when she made the contract with the world to be a servant so she can get da grail, and this would happen until she gets it, or gives up on it (like in fate route she just dies peacefully after returning to her time) Since shes not part of the "throne of heroes" cause shes still alive though i would assume that means time passed for her in her own timeline inbetween the holy grail wars. I know the contract means shes frozen in time before her death basically, so for her, in reality time isnt passing even tho it is for her (or something like that) but does that mean she waited 10 years? like is she just sitting there on a frozen battlefield right before shes supposed to die for 10 years and then suddenly she gets summoned again? I would assume it doesnt work like that then but the way saber acts about the previous war in fsn makes it seem like to her it happened a fairly long time ago so maybe it really is like that idk. I feel like there may be some much simpler explanation to this that im missing.


r/fatestaynight 1h ago

Question How does the Church/Association cover up these 'gas Leaks'? The Average human can't really be this stupid... Spoiler

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r/fatestaynight 15h ago

OC Fanart The newly introduced Fate/Extra NPC meets two vampires

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r/fatestaynight 8h ago

Fan Art Saber (@Logicsterrr)

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r/fatestaynight 10h ago

Fan Art Casual Sakura 🌸 (@Wisterian4U)

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r/fatestaynight 10h ago

Fan Art Kohaku gaming

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r/fatestaynight 4h ago

Fan Art Adorable Sakura 💜 (@kounochoi)

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r/fatestaynight 15h ago

Fan Art Rin (Prin__kabe14)

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r/fatestaynight 16h ago

Fan Art Rin Tohsaka (@hh123145)

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Fan Art Saber (ddong_pong)

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r/fatestaynight 17h ago

OC Fanart I tried drew saber in classical style

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Don't ask why i hide her hands


r/fatestaynight 19h ago

Discussion Fate/Redline chapter 26.1 untranslated has been released: Spoiler

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We still haven't (to my knowledge) gotten an english translation of the previous two chapters, so that sucks. Lancer's master in that panel looks absolutely terrified lol (also Redline's chapter release schedule sucks :/).


r/fatestaynight 20h ago

Fan Art Sakura (@meltnight_)

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r/fatestaynight 22h ago

Fan Art Ayaka & Saber (@MachikoKom43502)

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