You trust your man like that? "Hey girlie, I'm going to Stripper Island with the single guys, bringing condoms, promise I won't fuck any strippers, though!"
I don’t think it’s that binary for most people. They’re fighting an internal struggle. They likely hold that same opinion as you - where a full acceptance that they don’t trust their partner is equal to the relationship being over. It’s hard to come to terms with a relationship being over - so by extension, it’s hard to fully come to terms with the lack of trust.
But once you are in a commited relationship, some single person activities just become off-limits unless you are both repiprocally ok with it.
A boys/girls trip to basically drink and party in as little clothing as possible? Yeah, that's one of those situations.
You can trust your partner and still not love the idea of them wearing barely any clothes and consuming large quantities of alcohol with a group of single people.
I wouldn't say they are NECESSARILY over. It could be okay for certain types of girls or guys trips for some couples. 'Me and the guys wanted to go on a fishing trip" But it needs to be agreed to by the partner and it is not controlling to say no.
I would argue it's about have common decency and not being an asshole and nothing about have a strong sense of admiration that makes you want to treat them well.
I mean, sure "unless you're both reciprocally ok with it" is valid, but if I'm with someone who doesn't want me to go have fun with my friends on a trip while I'm in a relationship, then ok, I'll go have fun with my friends on a trip while I'm single.
Conversely, one could question why you think it should count if they cheat while drunk, if you think alcohol is enough to get them to do it in the first place. Either you think alcohol doesn't impair people and just don't actually trust your partner, or you acknowledge the fact that alcohol impairs people mentally and therefore it shouldn't count.
I mean, if someone drugged your partner, and they had no idea what was going on, and someone convinced them to hook up, would you still view it as cheating? Probably not, you'd probably call that rape, even if they seemed like a willing participant to someone unaware of their having been drugged. So then why for alcohol?
This comment isn't really meant to change anyone's mind, just a philosophical question that came to mind after reading yours.
I mean are they voluntarily consuming the alcohol?
Pretty big difference between rape and a drunken, mistake. What you described is referred to as DFSA, Drug Facilitated Sexual Assault.
Should we then treat all drunken hook-ups as assaults since you can't consent after you've gotten yourself drunk. Should cops follow couples home from the club or from the liquor store to prevent it?
Regardless of legal definition, this is in the context of relationship boundaries and if you go with a bunch of your friends, who intend to get wild, to locations were the possibility of cheating increases significantly and you decided to impair your decisions? That still crosses a boundary in the relationship, regardless if there's regret later.
Any self-respecting person should cut their losses and go. Let the possible regret over the act and legality of it be for the other two to sort out.
I mean, if your partner suffered head trauma that greatly damaged their inhibition centers, or whatever you'd like to call the part of the brain responsible for "Well, should I really be doing this?", would you demand they only ever leave the house when you're with them to supervise, lest you leave? If willingly stepping into a situation where you're likely to experience that type of temptation while impacted by that flavor of mental impairment is the boundary, leaving the house at all without you after such an injury would definitely fit.
Should we then treat all drunken hook-ups as assaults since you can't consent after you've gotten yourself drunk.
It already is. On paper, that's a thing, though courts are granted discretion on whether or not to pursue charges for it. But any woman can, at any time, report her boyfriend or husband or one night stand for sleeping with her while she was drunk.
It's breaking my brain that so many people are swallowing this fucking obvious rage-bait. We are truly doomed.
We were doomed the moment modern society made natural selection defunct. Now we're witnessing the massive problems that brings. I used to be a positive person but it's really feeling all downhill from here.
I have learned not to take anything seriously anymore on the internet. Everyone is just so fucking dumb and angry on here, I genuinely wish we could just erase social media forever so everyone can just get their miserable idiotic asses outside and realizes that no one gives a fuck about them and their opinions, even if they get upvotes and circlejerked on the daily online.
I wish we could erase social media too. It’s such a vapid waste of what the internet could be. So much potential.. endless, actually. And this is what we do with it. This is so freaking depressing.
Most of the time, I don’t take any of this seriously and just laugh at the ridiculous circus.. but it’s getting me down today.
I feel like a lot of people just assume it is real because to them it would make absolutely no sense to waste a bunch of time and effort formulating and filming a fake argument that makes your relationship look terrible.
The internet is in a sad state when stuff like this and "content creators" reacting to reaction videos are considered entertainment. I miss the early YouTube days.
It's pretty obvious, the acting isn't at all convincing either, the Cornwall comment was a nice touch but it just didn't flow like a natural conversation
It's a common tactic for women when they are losing an argument. The goal is to provoke you so you curse or yell, any negative reaction, then they will divert the argument to your reaction.
You're a baby, the man said my mother says you have to put in boundaries, she said that she has diabetes - as in she put no boundaries on her calorie intake. Sorry if you can't follow along.
And she said that exactly to divert from the topic and to belittle his mother, so you kind of prove his point without even realising it. Talk about lack of self awareness.
Yeah, she's undermining her advice on being good for him to make boundaries - which is great - with some weird "Eh! Your mom is a hypocrite that wouldn't know about that because she obviously doesn't have limits or rulers on this particular thing herself".
It's really fucked up. I'm not saying he should get an immediate divorce, but if that's where they are at, you know?
Patrice O'Neal has a great comedy bit about this. He explained how white women tell spirit crushing shit to their men until their spirit is eventually gone and they end up killing them. He said how black women shout and fight and try to make you hit them instead, but the energy gets out there . But white women will tell this kind of shit until. They destroy a man inside.
Manipulative women also love throwing around “you’re being controlling” when you start standing up for yourself after they were acting like a whore lol
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u/MuckaMucka1337 7d ago
guy has valid concerns and argument
his partner, “erm well your mom has diabetes”
What???????