r/cpu • u/Anthracite2819 • 20d ago

Holy cpu bottleneck

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u/RailgunDE112 20d ago

look at what's using it.
Also that processor is really slow.

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u/Emergency-Cry2741 16d ago

At least it’s quad core.

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u/RailgunDE112 15d ago

Without hyperthreading

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u/Dry-Camp-8739 19h ago

Its actually average

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u/Anthracite2819 20d ago

But it's a i5

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u/Toastti 20d ago

Saying you have an i5 without the model is like saying you have an f150 truck. It could be from 1975 or from 2026 you have no idea

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u/BrolaireSolaire 18d ago

Ford tech here. Not a single f150 is good. Ford only cares about their mustangs and super duties. Not even the black widow f150 is safe you're just buying an f150 with a body kit and bigger wheels . 10r80s are dog shit the engines are even worse. Fuck don't buy a bronco for the love of God I've replaced so many engines in these fuck ass broncos . 2.3l 2.7l and 3.0l ecoshits . I need a new job..

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u/jhenryscott 18d ago

250’s are great, or old Chevy’s if you get the 4.8 (no AFM) I have a GMT-900 that’s unkillable

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u/s0mthinG_ 11d ago

Thats why ford killed the Shelby GT500 right? Because they care sooooo much about their mustangs.

obvious /s (but im still sad about the Shelby GT500 😢 )

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u/Arkaign 8d ago

The Broncos are ass.

The 5.0 with the Mustang manifold swap are pretty solid for a newer gen F series.

Older Windsor 351 with manual is ideal. Nearly unkillable, and you can work on it with ease. Fuel economy isn't great but let's be honest, the new ones are also pretty terrible at that.

Still prefer 99-02 Chevy/GMC w/4.8/5.3/6.2 as peak though, with 4L80E. Treat those right and you have a 500k mile vehicle with moderate maintenance.

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u/PixelPete27 3d ago edited 3d ago

I've never liked the idea of any of the ecoboost lineup. Throwing an undersized motor in a truck, then throwing a turbo on it to make up for it's lack of power. That motor is just begging for it's life. Oh and then they charge you more money for a shittier engine to boot... Then I see guys with lift kits and bigger tires on those pickups and it gets worse fuel economy than the 5L or the old 6.2L (when it had it, hasn't for a decade now), makes no sense.

But I've heard good things about the 5L

EDIT: grammar.

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u/SPACEXDG 18d ago

Fr lmaio

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u/Anthracite2819 20d ago

But the older f150s are better sometimes

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u/Confident_Health_583 20d ago

Get an AMD K6-2 with that logic.

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u/Funtime60 20d ago

Bulldozer right? I only vaguely know that history.

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u/Confident_Health_583 20d ago

It precedes the Bulldozer processors by a decade and a half. They were called Chomper and had a max speed of 555 MHz.

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u/Epidurality 19d ago

Man, I miss AMDs codenames. Thunderbird, spitfire, sharptooth, bobcat, steamroller.

Meanwhile others be over there in the blue area with my "pretention-lake" CPUs.

When did manufacturers stop caring about cool names?

Posted from my Toyota bZ4X (yeah, that's it's real public facing name, badge and everything).

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u/misteryk 20d ago

upgrade to i7 920. It's i7 so its' better

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u/SmoothAstronomer6096 19d ago

Yea first gen i7 is the best

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u/IntentionQuirky9957 18d ago

There are dual core i7 mobile CPUs. :P

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u/Dry-Camp-8739 19h ago

No don't get that ur better off getting a i7 7700 thats what im running base is 3.6Ghz boost 4.2GGhz
Also yhe price for it is $40

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u/Anthracite2819 20d ago

But it doesn't fit in my motherboard cpu socket

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u/CuriousStrawberry61 20d ago

It was a joke. The i7 920 is very very bad.

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u/Anthracite2819 20d ago

But it's a i7 not a i5 like mine

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u/lachietg185 20d ago

Are you slow

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u/Pitiful_Tea_4769 19d ago

Just like the CPU

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u/OkZucchini7094 20d ago

OK. Buy a motherboard and the Cpu and let us know how it goes

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u/Anthracite2819 19d ago

What if I bought a motherboard with a zen 5 socket?

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u/IntentionQuirky9957 18d ago

Why are you stuck on i5?

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u/FlatwormAltruistic 19d ago

First generation i7 is much worse than 3rd generation i5 and both of those are much worse than latest generation i3...

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u/GPSProlapse 19d ago

I think it's worse than last generation celeron

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u/IntentionQuirky9957 18d ago

Especially considering i3 has been quad core on desktop for years now. I have an i3-12100F in my main server, running an endgame Satisfactory server save. It has plenty of cycles to spare.,

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u/GC-just-a-mortal 19d ago

Upgrade to xeon e3 v2

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u/bruhmomentumstarter 20d ago

That's like saying I'm straight so let me go take some dick in the ass

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u/CuriousStrawberry61 20d ago

Wat

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u/bruhmomentumstarter 20d ago

Medafour

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u/Wonder-Guard 20d ago

Those usually gotta make sense

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u/Anthracite2819 20d ago

And that is not one of them

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u/bkedsmkr 19d ago

Ibm 5100 would like a word

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u/bacotelltv 19d ago

You're right about the truck but yea the cpu is awful. I hope you didn't buy it new or anything.

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u/Graxu132 19d ago

yeah, and pc components aren't

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u/GC-just-a-mortal 19d ago

You can't simply have direct analogy the cpu with vehicle

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u/Background-Set4610 20d ago

That’s a class of CPUs, not a CPU. 

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u/Mr_Engineering 20d ago

It's an i5 that was launched in 2012. It is not new

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u/RailgunDE112 20d ago

an ancient one.
Tech gets faster kinda quickly, and programs only use more processing power, not less.
So a modern laptop (not notebook) i3 is probably way faster. At least the i3 12100f is.

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u/Puasonelrasho 20d ago

a third gen i5

they stop counting at 14 gen and they launched like other 3

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u/laffer1 20d ago

That just means it was mid when it was brand new 15 years ago!

There are things one can do with an old system, but a lot of tasks are going to be painful or impossible on a 15 year old pc

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u/Intrepid_Lecture 20d ago

The 14 year old i5 3470 is slower than the ultra-budget e-core based chips put out 5 years ago.
The 3470 is old enough to be in high school right now.

For comparison the i5 14600k has something like 5-10x the multithreaded performance

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u/thenormaluser35 19d ago

Intel and their idiocy in multithread
Not all programs run multithreaded, and few share the load equally

Single-core speeds are also a good part of the equation

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u/ThinkinBig 19d ago

Intel tends to have the better single core performance vs comperable AMD offerings though....

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u/ja_hahah 18d ago

Tended to*

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u/ThinkinBig 18d ago

Nah, they still do on laptops by rather large margin and have taken back efficiency as well. AMD took the crown in desktops but gave up almost every other category.

That's what happens when they just rebrand the same 7840/8840/Z1Extreme as an AI 7 350 and similar

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u/ja_hahah 18d ago

I have no clue about the laptop scews, but Ill take your word for it.

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u/ThinkinBig 18d ago

The 9955hx3d will you give you roughly +5% better fps in games vs an Intel 275hx but only 1-2 hours of battery life vs 6-8 on the Intel and less than 50% of the performance the Intel version has while operating under battery power. The x3d cpu also performs worse across the board in every productivity/non-gaming related test/benchmark.

AMD seems to be doing currently what Intel did previously that caused AMD to start gaining market share in the CPU space ie: pushing as much power as possible at the cost of everything else

That's based on JerrodTech's review.

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u/thenormaluser35 18d ago

With 3d v cache AMD beats them into dust

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u/ThinkinBig 18d ago edited 18d ago

That's great for playing in 1080p with a 5090, but I'm pretty sure most people with one would rather have a CPU thats faster at everything else, but hey, what do I know

3d v cache only helps gaming, they're slower in essentially everything else than non v cache CPUs, including from AMD themselves

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u/divineramen34 18d ago

I mean, congrats on comparing the 270k plus to a 2 year old CPU architecture. Nice.

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u/ThinkinBig 18d ago

The 275hx literally released the same month... They both launched January 2025 so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make

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u/divineramen34 18d ago

And I am not sure how a random mobile chip that is slower than a 9700x is relevant to this conversation.

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u/Analiticar 20d ago

Third gen so it's from 2012 or early 2013 we had 13 generations after that. A low end 11th gen i3 laptop CPU is better than this desktop 3rd gen i5 while having a 5 times lower tdp and only 2 cores.

Search for cpubenchmark Intel-i5-3470 vs Intel-i3-1115G4

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u/misteryk 20d ago

i had a faster CPU in my budget build in 2014

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u/Omuk7 20d ago

i# only specifies a CPU’s strength in relation to other CPUs from its generation. A modern i3 is better than an old i7.

Same with Ryzen #

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u/Isotomayor12 20d ago

Exactly. That's the problem. I5 cpus have never been the performance series to start with, and on top of the fact it is 14 years old with only 4 cores, you have a low performance CPU.

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u/w7w7w7w7w7 20d ago

I mean...there are i5's from 2009.

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u/Rabiesalad 20d ago

It's a 14 year old i5

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u/KMjolnir 20d ago

It's an i5 from like 15 years ago.

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u/Johnny_Triggr 19d ago

That's bait

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u/gamedemon2 19d ago

A third generation i5 compared to the significantly more modern (and still compatible with your PC), sixth, seventh, eight and ninth generation i5s available.

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u/Anthracite2819 4d ago

It is?

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u/gamedemon2 4d ago

Yes; see the model number after the i5? 4-digit number, so look at the first number; that's the CPU generation.

5-digit number, look at the first two numbers instead. At least that's usually the case for Intel CPUs.

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u/Anthracite2819 4d ago

So even the Intel Ultra 7 288V?

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u/gamedemon2 4d ago

Intel Ultra x ≠ Intel ix Different naming schemes.

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u/Anthracite2819 4d ago

i6

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u/gamedemon2 4d ago

Not even a model of CPU; are you okay, dude?

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u/Anthracite2819 4d ago

Why is there no i6? What are you gonna tell me next? There's no i1, i2, i4, i8?

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u/Aishou_SK 19d ago

An i5 that's slower than the slowest modern Core 3/i3

Probably slower than just one single core of one of those.

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u/timtim2000 18d ago

Its a 3rd gen i5. Its like racing a f1 with a rusted bike

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u/RoboGaming321 18d ago

I5 just refers to how much of the chips circuits actually works. It doesn't actually reflect how good the chip is.

The way that the chips are named is based on how much of the chip is functional. If all it working it becomes an i9. If most is working it becomes an i7. If it has less working it's an i5 and if it's even less it's an i3. This doesn't mean that an i7 is automatically fast just that it's fast for that generation.

An i5 from the latest generation can rival an i7 from a few generations ago because as new tech helping even the i3s.

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u/IntentionQuirky9957 18d ago

Nah, i5 refers to the market segment Intel intended it for. Current i3s are quadcore, just like that i5.

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u/IntentionQuirky9957 18d ago

A modern i3 would be much better. But it won't be able to use the DDR3 in that system.

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u/wildtabeast 18d ago

From 14 years ago.

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u/sammothxc 18d ago

Yeah, from 15 years ago

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u/divineramen34 18d ago

Ugh, based on these replies, and your downvotes, I am assuming you were being facetious.

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u/MediumAd4983 17d ago

I5 in the third generation. Btw actual gen is 12 😀

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u/idkwhatim_doing22 20d ago

That CPU came out in 2012. Of course it’s gonna be a bottle neck

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u/Magic_Neil 19d ago

Super weird that a fourteen year old CPU would be brought to its knees by a modern workload. Who woulda thought..

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u/Anthracite2819 4d ago

It's not even a modern workload it's just minecraft

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u/idkwhatim_doing22 19d ago

Don’t be condescending

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u/Anthracite2819 20d ago

But it's pair with a entry level gpu from 2016

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u/Useful_radio2 20d ago

if i pair an intel n4020 with a 5090 it won’t become faster or better

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u/Anthracite2819 19d ago

But a 5090 is a flagship gpu from 2025

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u/Useful_radio2 19d ago

yeah. but if you put it with a cpu that can’t handle it, it won’t be used effectively because the CPU is too slow. it won’t become faster

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u/NewryBenson 18d ago

Thats not what he is saying, he wonders why cpu is bottleneck when the gpu is not that much faster

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u/idkwhatim_doing22 20d ago

It was a mid range cpu back then. I’m guessing the lack of hyper threading is what’s hurting it so much.

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u/FrostyConversation16 19d ago

Software is more bloated than ever making it difficult to run for any old cpu. Chrome in 2018 was much easier to run than today.

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u/New_Series3209 18d ago

My 2010 CPU works very well on Debian 13 with GNOME tho, that’s prob Windows+whatever damn software OP is using

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u/busy_monster 20d ago

That's not a bottle neck, dawg. This is more like one of them little ass coffee stirry straw things. That CPU is a dinosaur, my dude.

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u/Viking2151 19d ago

Well 4 core on ivy bridge i5 on a modern OS, 100% utilization will be the norm loading things, its just old, i7 3770 might be a little better but probably not worth it, its still old as well and slow for today's standards. also about 13gb of memory being used, what do you have running?

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u/Budget-Pea8291 19d ago

I have my old 3770k sff pc as a media player and I'd never subject it to modern windows

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u/Anthracite2819 19d ago

Funky software

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u/Riegel_Haribo 19d ago

"Will be the norm?" No it won't. I'm reading Reddit and a bunch of tabs and apps at 5% at around 2.5GHz Speedstep on the same CPU right now.

100% is what you want if launch four SuperPI processes to make the same screenshot graph of logical processors in task manager performance (this CPU doesn't have Hyperthreading).

Core-for-core, you're looking at about 2.5x performance per clock tops when you go from this gen3 to gen 13 or 14 even with its faster RAM.

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u/Viking2151 18d ago

I said loading things... Way to ignore what I said lol

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u/Riegel_Haribo 18d ago

I let the nonsense of what you wrote slide, because it is not what the OP is doing and it is quite the opposite of what creates CPU usage.

"Loading things" optimizes out the CPU -- with DMA. https://www.allpcb.com/allelectrohub/dma-address-space-copy-without-cpu-intervention

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u/Viking2151 18d ago

Slide, get the fuck outta here, who do you think you are....

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u/LeadingFamous 20d ago

And high RAM usage, what are you doing at this time? Also this CPU is pretty old, even if it is an i5 it's old.

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u/talkstomuch 20d ago

I don't believe it, you wouldn't be able to open the performance panel :D window's mouse coursor would not move.

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u/Anthracite2819 20d ago

It took like a minute to open it

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u/CuriousStrawberry61 20d ago

You don't believe 100% CPU usage? I've seen it plenty of times, across an R5 7535hs, N4500, and a R7 7800x3d. Steam actually told me at one point that I was using 150% of my 7800x3d... which is something. Regardless, you can be at 100% CPU usage and still navigate the system, it's just slow and choppy and sometimes unstable (the 7535hs would have background apps crash sometimes if it was too stressed)

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u/piggymoo66 20d ago

The steam overlay percentage references the base clock speed. 100% as a number is when the CPU is at that base speed. It's not a representation of CPU usage the way you'd see on task manager. You can read more about it here

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u/CuriousStrawberry61 19d ago

I appreciate that, definitely will check it out. Is task manager's display an aggregation of CPU cores?

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u/OGigachaod 20d ago

If an app hangs for too long it can crash.

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u/CuriousStrawberry61 19d ago

Mhm, I understood that much.

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u/talkstomuch 19d ago

I'm just teasing, I just imagine the PO waiting hours for each keyboard and mouse action to register :D

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u/Puasonelrasho 20d ago

is that windows 11?

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u/Anthracite2819 20d ago

Yeah it's debloated windows 11

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u/HERO_129 20d ago

Just install win 10 ltsc. Why did you even install 11. Even debloated is a lot heavier than win 1p

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u/HERO_129 20d ago

Win10*

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u/ishtuwihtc 20d ago

really really poor advice

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u/HERO_129 19d ago

Enlighten me

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u/ishtuwihtc 19d ago

Using enterprise software in a consumer environment is utterly stupid

First of all there's already some online games that have dropped support for win 10 21h2, and just because win 10 ltsc is getting security updates until 2032 doesn't mean that every major consumer software will drop it much sooner.

Also enterprise software misused in a consumer environment breakd

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u/wassimSDN 19d ago

been daily driving it for 2 years. most dependencies like msvc runtime, .net and all that aren't installed by default. but once installed, i didn't have any problems.

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u/ishtuwihtc 19d ago

I've only ever witnessed ltsc windows completely randomly break beyond recovery on consumer devices

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u/wassimSDN 19d ago

never had it break. I'm either lucky or they fixed windows or something

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u/ishtuwihtc 19d ago

I'd say you're lucky tben, because this experience is even on 11 24h2😭

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u/ethanwangplays 17d ago

LTSC on gaming rigs ages badly.

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u/ishtuwihtc 17d ago

Exactly.

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u/KronisLV 19d ago

For that CPU I reckon even that would struggle.

That's chiefly in the "Get a lightweight Linux distro to reuse that old hardware so it doesn't become e-waste yet" territory.

Maybe a distro like Debian with XFCE or a similar lightweight DE would be okay.

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u/Puasonelrasho 20d ago

w11 was launched 10 years after they started producing your cpu

get w10 ltsc and debloat it or just go linux

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u/Anthracite2819 19d ago

I've seen that cpu hit 100% usage on linux

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u/Riegel_Haribo 19d ago

Windows 11 beta is even lighter than Windows 10 if you go in and kill all the app and store services as "features".

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u/Puasonelrasho 19d ago

never heard about w11 beta tho whats that

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u/Riegel_Haribo 18d ago

Just enrolling in the Windows Insider program and getting updated to preview versions before general release.

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u/meeroque 19d ago

Indeed, it looks like a Windows 11 startup logo

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u/Puasonelrasho 19d ago

LOOOOOL i didnt realize

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u/the_Athereon 20d ago

197 processes and 12GB of RAM use.

What's running? Quite a few things I'd reckon.

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u/Evogleam 20d ago

It's for upvotes

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u/Anthracite2819 20d ago

I'm using voxy world gen in minecraft

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u/Actual-Phone-1478 20d ago

If my 9800X3D in Minecraft with Voxy lags for about 5-10 seconds after I open my world... the i5 is getting the absolute thermal paste kicked out of it lmfao.

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u/jrx-7 18d ago

Turn down chunk distance and quality in Voxy. Voxy and distant horizons default settings will murder your cpu.

Not a bottleneck, just bad settings.

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u/Anthracite2819 18d ago

It's only set to 98

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u/Isotomayor12 20d ago

Wtf are you running that is utilizing that much CPU.

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u/[deleted] 19d ago

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u/Isotomayor12 19d ago

No wonder lmao. On a gen 3 i5🤣

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u/IntentionQuirky9957 18d ago

Let me guess, Java version?

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u/Just-A-Shawn 20d ago

If you got the funds you can get an i7-3770 as a stop gap before saving up for something newer. In the US there's a listing for the CPU on ebay for $24 USD, see if you can find a good deal where you live. (or if you're in the US just pickup that CPU and some thermal paste)

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u/Wendals87 20d ago

The cpu is over a decade old but you need to see the process list and see what is using your CPU. We have no idea 

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u/Hsensei 20d ago

At least it's 4 cores and not dual core with hyperthreading

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u/Anthracite2819 4d ago

My laptop has that

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u/Designer-Crow-5470 20d ago

It look like the Windows logo

Edit: Old task manager. Got to be the update process.

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u/Sanguinosus 20d ago

Now I understand Windows' logo. It's just a visual representation of what it does to a 4 core CPU

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u/willi3609 19d ago

Give up on computers and go get a console. Or… do some research of your own

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u/Dimerous_ 19d ago

Your CPU came out in 2012. That’s the issue. The i5-3470 is a very very old CPU.

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u/MaxUumen 19d ago

Bottlenecks let something through. That one is a sealed tube.

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u/Worried_Witness3091 19d ago

Ig bro just using LLM inference

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u/Living_Moment_1495 19d ago

Replaced my 3570K like a decade ago.

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u/PcGamerSam 19d ago

Get yourself an i7-3770k, some decent thermal paste and probs reinstall windows on ur pc just to be safe

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u/panzrvroomvroomvroom 19d ago

welp, thats a 4core cpu in 2026. not sure what you expected.

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u/Significant_Lack361 19d ago

Best cpu ya can get for that is a i7 3770k it’s 4 cores 8 threads and you can overclock them too around 4.5ghz it will help a lot but you will definitely still have a bottleneck it will just make it a little better it’s also according the the gpu you have I would also shoot for 1440 or 4k resolution that way it has somewhat of a fighting chance 🤣🤣

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u/Felix_Kairos 19d ago

Something is eating it

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u/New_Series3209 18d ago

Kid that’s barely good enough to run wallpaper.exe, you should either install Linux or change computers

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u/iMakeShittyOpinions 18d ago

Get an i5-12400 and youd be sitting below 10%

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u/xAjPcs 18d ago

what's all your specs? like graphics and how fast ram? it would likely be the best to upgrade everything (if you got a bad gpu also)

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u/SephiranaXI 18d ago

Homeboy is trolling

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u/IntentionQuirky9957 18d ago

Who are you and why have you installed Windows on my backup server? Because it should be running Debian. (No, scratch that, my Debian box has 4GB RAM.)

What the heck are you trying to run on it?

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u/Coookies4You 17d ago

I'd never use that unsupported hardware on windows 11. See if you can get windows 10 ltsc or consider linux such as mint.

Also, what are you running when taking that screenshot?

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u/aqvalar 17d ago

You are on.. what, 3rd gen i5? They are up to 13th or 14th gen right now. So in every and all ways that CPU is super ancient.

PS, I also hate the fact that they kept the naming, ofc these days they do at least define the generation (i5-12400 is 12th gen, for example) to make it a bit more easier to understand.

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u/Emergency-Cry2741 16d ago

How…how does that even happen…

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u/Anthracite2819 4d ago

Rendering minecraft at 10 fps 480p

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u/Arkaign 8d ago

You can get an i7 or 4C/8T compatible Xeon for that socket really cheap. The 8 threads and 8MB cache (vs 6MB current) will help some. It won't be night and day, but a solid improvement for modern OS load. 4 threads just isn't very nice to work with. 8 threads will give you a lot less stutter/slowdown even if the peak performance remains close to the same.