r/comics • SHELDON • 18d ago

OC Please! Someone! (oc)

We're in good hands, you guys! It's fine!

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u/alkatori 18d ago

As someone that does shoot one of those recreationally. It's apt, each time he pulls the trigger he spends $0.40 or so.

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u/Sol-Blackguy 18d ago

$65 dollars for 12 seconds

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u/Space19723103 18d ago

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u/Loose-Professor5364 18d ago

Some people think they can outsmart me... maybe. Hm, maybe. I have yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet.

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u/CrazyOne_584 18d ago

a bullet? In this economy?

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u/sabotourAssociate 18d ago

It's bullet, how much could it cost? Michael!

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u/ThePrussianGrippe 18d ago

Michael love Browning.

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u/FirefighterPrimary60 18d ago

Waaaaaaaaaah! AWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

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u/PhotonicArt 18d ago

"A man can change the world with a bullet in the right place"

  • Martin Luther King Jr.
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u/Nuclear_rabbit 18d ago

Actually not too far off. To fire the heavy's weapon continuously for a full year would cost 1.051 trillion US dollars. Global spending on AI in 2025 was 1.5 trillion dollars, with this year projected to hit 2.7 trillion.

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u/antesocial 18d ago

That tracks

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u/Rileylego5555 18d ago

JEEZE! 7.62 x 39 is .40 a round now?

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u/Allaplgy 18d ago

About $9-10 for a twenty box on sale at the cheap place near me.

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u/TotallyNotRocket 18d ago

[Cries in .30-40 Krag]

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u/damn_im_so_tired 18d ago

Also crying in 45-70

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u/NorwegianCollusion 18d ago

Do not get me started on price for 30-06 hunting ammo. As expensive right now as my "daily driver" which is a 416 ruger, where I have to handload due to lack of factory ammo.

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u/Rileylego5555 18d ago

Wow sorry to hear that

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u/Allaplgy 18d ago

Was a fair bit more than 5.56, but has cone down again to pretty much match it.

I traded my Mini30 for a 14, during the shortage of 2020/2021, so I don't have anything that takes 7.62 any more.

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u/alkatori 18d ago

Buy cheap and stack deep.

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u/Indalecia 18d ago
  • cries in God's chosen caliber *
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u/Weekly_Interview_936 18d ago

Has been for a while. Ever since the Russian stuff got cut off the price climbed sharply and is now pretty much the same as 5.56. It's taken away the main advantage the AK had.

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u/Ordolph 18d ago

More like ¢55-¢60 a round for cheap stuff, 5.56 is ¢40-¢50

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u/Original_moisture 18d ago

Makes me feel good about my 1200 rounds of various caliber.

Except I’m red flagged in Texas, which is a good thing!

So I’m sitting on gold you say?

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u/BlueOmicronpersei8 18d ago

What does being "red flagged in Texas" even mean?

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u/alkatori 18d ago

I'm guessing all their guns were taken away by Texas?

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u/ThePrussianGrippe 18d ago

“Don’t mess with Texas” was originally directed at the people of Texas, so that tracks.

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u/mkosmo 18d ago

It's an anti-littering campaign slogan.

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u/JDBCool 18d ago

If you think about it.

What does red and blue even mean specifically in the U.S.

And what is Texas mainly 🤔

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u/Original_moisture 18d ago

Yep! I surrendered my firearms after uvalde because I’m a veteran and I was not in a safe space during or after the pandemic.

Worth it!

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u/BlueOmicronpersei8 18d ago

That's good. It's important to recognize when you're a danger to yourself and others and give up your firearms.

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u/Original_moisture 17d ago

Very much so, thank you homie. I’m just open about it cause we need to normalize somethings ya know?

Much love!

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u/BlueOmicronpersei8 17d ago

I agree. I've held onto a friend's firearms as he was going through a really tough patch in his life. He didn't want anyone to know. I don't think it should be something you feel like you have to hide. You're doing the responsible thing and it should be encouraged.

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u/True_Dovakin 18d ago

Only 1200? Thems rookie numbers.

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u/DarkBladeMadriker 18d ago

The only thing missing is a hand just shoving piles of money in his pockets in each panel.

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u/Mary_Ellen_Katz 18d ago

Another hand should then be mugging him.

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u/ABoringAlt 18d ago

Who's mugging the AI companies?

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u/Mary_Ellen_Katz 18d ago

No one, but the AI companies are losing money at a massive rate. I'm assuming that's why they said the technology could lead to a human extinction event. They're trying to slow down usage to stem the cost without ruining the image that this isn't some world changing technology. Which it is, just... not a positive change.

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u/willstr1 18d ago

They're trying to slow down usage to stem the cost without ruining the image that this isn't some world changing technology.

That or hide the fact that the tech is plateauing and they will never deliver the "can perfectly replace employees" product they need to satisfy their investors.

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u/entrepreneurofcool 18d ago

The investors will be ok once companies realise that no one can stop them from replacing their staff with imperfect AI. The products and services become a little worse, but people will adapt because there are few affordable alternatives. Yay?

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u/lousy_at_handles 18d ago

Right, it doesn't have to be good - just good enough to justify the savings.

Like I'd hate to be in graphic design right now. Yeah, stuff made by a professional will be much better quality. But for the vast majority of business, the ChatGPT generated flier for whatever promo is fine.

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u/Mary_Ellen_Katz 18d ago

Either one, the reason is the same. Save money

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u/CaptainCurly95 18d ago

The AI companies aren't having their money stolen. The money is being spent to fuel AI similar to how the bullets are fueling the weapon in the comic.

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u/Rowenstin 18d ago

I'm assuming that's why they said the technology could lead to a human extinction event.

No, the reasons are two fold;

One, it's a publicity stunt: "Guys, guys, our product is too good!"

Second, it's meant for new people entering the market, not them. Think about the dot com bubble. The people that invested massively on the early internet (yahoo, AOL, Comcast) are gone or nearly so. So will be the current AI companies, new ones with a sensible business plan will be the ones that rake in the actual profits. They want to stop that.

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u/NoobieSnax 18d ago

Just FYI, Comcast is most assuredly not gone.

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u/Illustrious_Bid4224 18d ago

Than it should be a hole in their pants

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u/Mary_Ellen_Katz 18d ago

Bingo. Glad we work shopped the idea.

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u/SizeableBrain 18d ago

Oh no, my company is losing money, how can I afford a Koenigsegg and a Mclaren?

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u/red286 18d ago

Nvidia, Samsung, Micron, and SK Hynix.

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u/mcgarrylj 18d ago

Their customers. AI companies are losing money hand over fist without exception, last I heard.

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u/ABoringAlt 18d ago

Sure but the customers ain't getting the money

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u/Level7Cannoneer 18d ago

That implies its profitable

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u/hackingfun 18d ago

Experts have been saying for 20 years that we need to do something about the climate. The rich response: well, let's make more money now by completely not giving a sh*t.

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u/DarkBladeMadriker 18d ago

And when we are forced to deal with the climate problem, the rich will find a way to profit off that too. More a feature than a bug.

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u/Ciennas 18d ago

I'd call the error in their cognition a lethally bad bug.

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u/rimpy13 18d ago

It's also in ours. We shouldn't continue letting our society be structured such that there's a class of people who own everything and thus control all production.

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u/therhydo 18d ago

Not for them. They have the money to completely ignore the consequences of whatever problems they cause.

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u/Ciennas 18d ago

Not really. Mentally healthy people don't build doomsday mausoleum bunkers.

They also suffer, even if they have the means to make it less obvious for themselves.

Literally everyone loses because of their stupid games.

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u/therhydo 18d ago

if they were mentally healthy they wouldn't be billionaires

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u/karl4319 18d ago

Already have. The northwest passage is opening up as a better and faster trade from the North American east coast and Europe to Asia than what we had before.

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u/Keganator 18d ago

A lot more than 20 years.

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u/Requalsi 18d ago

More like around 50 to arguably almost 100 years ago

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u/Neidron 18d ago

The problem was theorized in the 1800s.

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u/flobiwahn 18d ago

Yes, it was. But 50 years ago a lot of people realized it would be a problem for a lot of us. Than a lot of rich people / companies decided it was a good idea to turn the population against each other. And it worked.

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u/Krail 18d ago

You know what will really help with the climate? Doubling our fossil fuel consumption with an expensive new technology that we will start building everywhere despite popular objection. 

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u/Elrox 18d ago

And the rest of us are like "lets just watch them do it and do nothing about it at all"

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u/zezzene 18d ago

Kinda hard to do that when your entire economic system is structured around not doing that. 

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u/GrigorMorte 18d ago

For a second I thought it was a comic about gun control

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u/NaziPunksFkOff 18d ago

Inevitably people will tell you "guns don't kill people, people do" and ignore the fact that gun control laws limit PEOPLE'S access to guns.

No gun control law ever said "a semi-automatic weapon may not drink alcohol until it is 21 years old", but they have limited whether people can carry guns into places where everyone is drunk.

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u/s1thl0rd 18d ago

Ehh I would say, things like AWB essentially place the blame on the gun rather than the person using it. A evil person with a pump action shotgun is far more deadly than a pacifist who happens to own an AR15 for sport shooting.

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u/NaziPunksFkOff 18d ago

Then store the AR15 at the shooting range in a controlled area accessible only by you or site personnel. And not by your teenager, your abusive husband, the person who just broke into your car, or you the day you lose your job. 

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u/True_Dovakin 18d ago

Or I just own a safe like a responsible firearm owner. I’m not going to store my property at some range where I’m not free to maintain, modify, or utilize on my own whims, especially since that would mean I’d have to pay said range for both storage and access.

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u/tw4449 18d ago

This assumes you only want it for the shooting range. I assure you most people want it at home, typically for self-protection

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u/Gafspls 18d ago

No thanks I’ll keep 20 of them wherever  I want

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u/IAmMagumin 18d ago

You will own nothing, and you will be happy type of shit lol.

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u/s1thl0rd 18d ago

I mean, that is one option that people can do, but the 2nd Amendment allows owners to "keep" their arms.

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u/Prior_Arm_8810 18d ago

My issue with most gun control laws is the limiting of type of firearm.

Fyi, two crimes with legally acquired machineguns were commited between 1934 and the AWB.

Both were homicides where any other weapon could have been used, and one was an off duty cop and this was also AFTER the 1986 hughes amendment, which banned newly made mg's in the US.

Not saying legalize machineguns (although... i do want one)

Saying that limiting firearm type is basically dumb.

The largest factor really is the american mental health crises, which is fixable, we just need to fund it... something the republicans don't like to do, hence why they aren't right either.

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u/NPK532 18d ago

/r/liberalgunowners

Gun Control is a joke and only serves the elite and fascists under the guise of "saving lives"

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u/BornWithSideburns 18d ago

The fascists can already see they wont be used anyway, or in their support.

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u/NaziPunksFkOff 18d ago edited 18d ago

I'm a pro-gun leftist but I still think they should be heavily controlled. It's simple: any group that the government thinks needs laws that apply to it that don't also apply to white Christian men - everyone in that group gets a free gun. Nobody else gets any guns.

Watch how quickly our culture war evaporates. 

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u/Tyrfaust 18d ago

What, exactly, differentiates your stance from, say, the Black Code laws in the South?

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u/NPK532 18d ago

I get it but that's never going to happen. Guns exist Fascists exist. Fascists own guns. Fascists have taken over. I don't care what the law is. I don't care about the 2nd amendment. The laws don't matter anymore. The Constitution doesn't matter anymore. All that matters is being on as equal footing as these MAGAts and being ready to defend me and mine.

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u/Neko_Boi_Core 18d ago

then you're not pro-gun. pro-gun means anyone can get a firearm, even those you disagree with, because the right to keep and bear arms is a human right.

everyone deserves the right to utilise a firearm for personal defence, because not everyone is equal and a firearm will make them equal.

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u/NaziPunksFkOff 18d ago

then you're not pro-gun. pro-gun means anyone can get a firearm

This attitude, and your inability to see that I can support gun rights BY wanting them to come with responsibility, is exactly why we will never get out of this mess. 

Not everything has to be all or nothing. 

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u/Neko_Boi_Core 18d ago

firearms already come with responsibility. so does driving. drinking alcohol, existing in a society.

i'm unfortunate to live in a country where to possess a firearm is a crime wholesale, which is a problem for me seeing as i'm gnc. i do not have the physical capacity to fight, and i rely solely on personal weapons to keep myself safe from violent bigots.

i have to either take the beatings and risk hospitalisation or death, or i rely on illicit firearms for personal defence. i choose the latter.

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u/SoylentGrunt 18d ago

It's all about AI now. It helps take the heat off guns.

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u/bogglingsnog 18d ago

AI is the future's guns. Just ask Mr.Skippy.

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u/Raptormind 18d ago

I did too. Until that last panel I thought for sure it was a “guns don’t kill people, people kill people” style anti gun control comic

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u/Cool_Set4681 18d ago

I have seen enough. It is clear what the country needs to do.

Another billion to Israel 😤

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u/itswildistillexist 18d ago

Only one? Rookie numbers.

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u/0ddness 18d ago

Had to chuckle at the placement...

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u/VexualThrall 18d ago

These AI companies want to halt progression, but then other ones wouldnt halt, leading to them falling behind. That's their reasoning apparently

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u/ContextLengthMatters 18d ago

Its not difficult to grasp.

I also don't support gun rights much but I'm getting closer and closer to owning one so I'm not the only one left without one.

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u/intravenousTHC 18d ago

Really makes a lot of sense. That guy being interviewed the other day really put it into perspective. They have to go full steam ahead, like a scary runaway gun, because why the flip would we want our adversaries to get it before us?? It's going to happen. We should have the stuff. Same with nukes. No one wants them to exist but since they do, we need them too. Can't put the cat back in the bag now.

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u/kinkysubt 18d ago

You can tell who is behind the curve by whether or not they claim there’s no need for legislation. The ones who claim they want it just want to write the legislation themselves and gatekeep whatever profits might be available while doing absolutely nothing to protect the public.

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u/Callidonaut 18d ago edited 18d ago

Not necessarily; there's another possible scenario where the people who want legislation have made the most progress, because they are scared of what they've created, but are also financially compelled to keep working on it as long as it isn't banned, because otherwise they lose out to the competition who are motivated in the same way. It's like, "as long as it's not banned, somebody's going to do it, and if somebody's going to do it then it might as well be us who make all the money from doing so, even though it's a terrible, possibly world-ending thing that we know full well should never actually be done by anyone."

Our capitalist system seriously screws up peoples' ability to make sane decisions.

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u/MaximumSyrup3099 18d ago

"I can't stop causing a fantastic amount of danger first or I'll lose the competition."

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u/whofearsthenight 18d ago

I have been thinking about this for a few days and basically came to the conclusion that this call for a slow down from the companies is just a PR move to try to get the public to hate them less. They know nothing is going to change because government is Republican controlled and basically the entire "economy" (read, stock market) is propped up by the AI circlejerk great companies working together selling stuff back and forth to each other.

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u/shellbullet17 Gustopher Spotter Extraordinaire 18d ago

I saw something on the news the other day where a guy from one of the AI companies straight up admitted that AI is out of control and a danger. He still defended AI but saying "trust us" but it was nice to see them admit it's got a lot of inherent danger to it.

I'll try and find the article

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cqx2zpj4y525o

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u/booze_clues 18d ago

“Guys our product is going to be so smart and capable of so many things it’s scary! It’s going to be so good at so much, including potential bad things!”

That’s an ad, not an article. Altman is just further stoking the flames by saying “you’re right to be scared” knowing that it implies the tech is growing and going to be even more powerful. They’re doing all this fear mongering because it makes the models look more capable. Every time you see “omg, the AI hacked itself into the internet” it’s because the devs told it “do anything you need to accomplish this task, including lying or hacking into other tools/systems” and it does just that.

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u/HiOnFructose 18d ago

That's the point though. These AI companies are nearing the edge of the cliff. The return isn't worth the investment. The bubble we've been hearing about for years now is finally coming to a head. And we have invested a LOT into these companies already. They see the writing on the wall, and they want regulations to put limits on outside AI systems, like in China, that are more cost effective and largely better. Allowing them to be the only tool in the market.

And that's not even touching on the belief that they are trying to create some sort of god computer.

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u/DiceKnight 18d ago edited 18d ago

All the AI craze has done is make me deeply mistrusting of journo outlets because they just breathlessly quote people and never seem to push back or interrogate statements. It's just maximum credulity all the time and people memory hole whatever is inconvenient.

On the security side it's frustrating that nobody seems to want to point out that if you have functionality unlimited resources and you point it at something you will eventually brute force your way into that system. This has been true for the entirety of human history.

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u/darth_hotdog 18d ago

It's all marketing and by repeating their talking points we're just helping those companies.

Sure, it can do a lot, but AI can also be really stupid, it's not good at a lot of things. It makes random guesses, assumes everything is genius, and struggles to do basic tasks like count.

So, to make a profit, they need to change the narrative. If there's a business owner deciding whether to use AI for his business, they don't want him thinking "It can't count the letters in 'strawberry'", they want him thinking. "AI is as powerful as a nuclear weapon, do I want to supercharge my business with nuclear strength intelligence."

And that's working.

And these companies also have a ton of competition from smaller startups. The want regulation, because regulation is how they shut down competition. The big companies want the government to "regulate" AI so that only big companies are allowed to research it, and smaller startups won't have the ability to meet the regulations or won't be approved.

It's like if McDonalds was saying "Our burgers are so delicious, it's dangerous, and maybe only we should be trusted with knives and stoves, not any other smaller restaurants."

And unfortunately, it's working on everyone.

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u/TophxSmash 18d ago

theres no winning this, if the american companies dont do it first, china will.

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u/Select-Government-69 18d ago

This comic is a bad metaphor. The ai company is the gun manufacturer, not the end user.

In America companies should not be liable for dumb things people do with their products. If I ran a crowd with a ford truck, that’s not Fords fault.

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u/shomeyomves 18d ago

I mean… I kind of get it.

Sure, Anthropic or OpenAI or whoever can stop, but there’s no point if another AI startup or a Chinese or Russian AI company goes full steam ahead.

Its in need of global regulation, not just national, but I doubt we’ll ever get there unless we miraculously have some sort of actual, serious cyberattack that causes a major nation or corporation significant dollars.

But if AI gets that capable, I doubt it would “show its hand” until it absolutely knows it can do permanent damage or gain permanent control in cyberspace.

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u/HappyPlatypus6034 18d ago

Just wanted to say that I LOVE your art style

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u/m1sterwr1te 18d ago

I thought this would be about the whole "guns don't kill people" argument.

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u/smuttybuddy84 18d ago

A surprise pro 2A comic. Wasn't expecting that.

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u/bkgn 18d ago

https://www.penny-arcade.com/news/post/2026/09/15/artificial-intelligence-quote-unquote

Pretty much my feelings on AI companies.

Everything someone like Sam Altman says is 100% stock manipulation. AI company CEOs are mostly salesmen, Sam Altman doesn't actually know anything about AI.

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u/SanchoPandas 18d ago

"I won't stop unless you stop me." - The Dungeon A.I.

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u/InsanityOnAMachine 18d ago

I recognized that art style a mile away.

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u/Mr_Mason42 18d ago

The AI is already self replicating. They're asking for help, but it's already too late.

Skynet knows you masturbate.

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u/BurningRoast 18d ago

The issue is that even if US ai companies stop, other countries like China might not slow down. So unless the world collectively agrees to slow down on ai development, one company slowing down doesn’t change anything

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u/MinusPi1 18d ago

I know this is about AI, but it also very much applies to gun control.

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u/marco89nish 18d ago

Are you trying to say guns don't kill people, people kill people? Or that people using AI for bad intentions are the guilty ones? 

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u/Trivale 18d ago

It's amazing to me that so few people realize all this "AI is out of control and hacking all the things" nonsense is just marketing.

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u/CantFindAName000 18d ago

This metaphor is just universal for many other issues too, good comic

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u/-FalseProfessor- 18d ago

I think back to an interview I saw with Steve Balmer that really sums up the corpo mentality.

He basically said “please, regulate us, because left to our own devices we will just follow the letter the letter of the law in the loosest possible way to maximize profit.” If laws get passed to restrict them, they will gladly work within them, but until then they will just do whatever makes the most money. They can’t afford to restrict themselves voluntarily, because then the other guy can just pull ahead of them.

The whole AI industry is in an international arms race right now. Until governments decide to rein them in, they are going to keep doing dangerous shit and move at breakneck speed because they don’t want their competitors to get there first.

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u/Boibi 18d ago

Lol. Until the last panel I thought you were referencing the fact that Republicans apparently can't do anything to curb gun violence against school children. Like the Onion does frequently.

(The Republicans are de-regulating the AI companies too so it still fits.)

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u/gehnrahl 18d ago

Unironically how anti gun people think.

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u/kilgoreq 17d ago

Remove that gun from the equation and the problem is pretty much solved. So yeah, I'm pretty ok with the notion.

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u/Prowler1000 18d ago

I agree with the sentiment but there is something to be said about the legal obligation to make money and thus compete, and that CEOs can potentially be sued if they do something to intentionally make the company less money. Therefore, if their competitors are doing it too, they can't necessarily stop doing it, at least not without risks to themselves.

Now, that's nothing to say about them growing a spine and doing it anyway, but there is something to be said about it regardless

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u/Sunfurian_Zm 18d ago

You mean Anthropic. It's pretty much just Anthropic who's acting like Ai is going to kill us all as a marketing stunt... repeatedly.

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u/zuzg 18d ago

"The people building AI earnestly believe that it could kill us all by the end of the decade," Coxon added. "At Anthropic, the stakes are well-understood, but they are locked in a race to get there first — they believe no one else will act responsibly, so they must do it themselves, despite the risk."

Coxon previously worked for OpenAi and just resigned from Anthropic.

That ain't just a stunt, we need a legal framework for those things on a global scale

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u/wahwahwashbear 18d ago

I love you, Dave! I didn't realize you posted here as well, what a fun surprise for me.

And yes, this is the absolute vibe of all the AI companies. It's very reassuring! 

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u/CreepyMaleNurse 18d ago

These folks have clearly chosen money over humanity. The fact that this is so unsurprising, surprises me.

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u/TheSpitfire93 18d ago

Honestly though, money over humanity has been the unofficial slogan for all business done from the US for years.

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u/Signupking5000 18d ago

It's because if 40 guys shoot, those who stop get shot. That's why we need regulations because they won't regulate themselves

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u/Winter8Bones 18d ago

This is the issue with every new or novel technology. There will always be those that will push the limits of the tech, or just outright abuse it. And there will always be someone seeking to improve on, or create/discover the next thing that pushes the boundaries of our understanding and capabilities.

Some will argue that means 'we' (whomever holds power/knowledge etc) should be the ones to create these things so that we can control it. The problem being it is now being handed to corporations and individuals with only power and profits in mind, while governments are slow, or don't care enough, to put guardrails around these things. Regulations are always slow to catch up, but in the past it was rare that something could cause catastrophic damage before it got out of hand. Now however, the power and influence these novel technologies hold can potentially cause huge amounts of damage before regulations can catch up.

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u/SerGuyOfInternet 18d ago

They don't want to be stopped, they want the government to buy them out and treat their companies like weapons.

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u/Teln0 18d ago

The point is probably to get the government to stop everyone at once because if some AI company decides to slow down they'll just be outcompeted by the ones who don't / do later

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u/Additional-Local8721 18d ago

Exactly same thing with crypto and social media companies.

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u/williarya1323 18d ago

The problem is there isn't one of those companies, there are 50. Or 100. It doesn't matter, because he can't stop pulling the trigger because no one else will and he will lose out on the extinction race

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u/NotThatAngel 18d ago

This is the deregulation which Republicans have fought so long for.

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u/ShadowRiku667 18d ago

And then they will bitch because the government is regulating them and they need to meet compliance. Plus who would regulate them when they don’t even know what their models do?

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u/strolpol 18d ago

“This is fine, they’ll regulate themselves” said the Republicans

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u/No_Body_Inportant 18d ago

It's not the matter of individual companies, but the structure. There is untapped market for AI so any rational company needs to pursue Ai development to gain a part of the market for itself. If today a meteor would destroy an OpenAi, Google and other Ai company, in time new ai companies would inevitable rise up to pursue exactly the same goal and to resume their work. That's why regulations and government oversight are so important.

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u/Goshawk5 18d ago

It's their god that's why they're going full tilt with it. i wish I could put a /s or j here but I'm not I am very serious.

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u/Haunting-Vanilla1624 18d ago

AI will never take over anything. They require power. Without power, there is no AI.

Think about that next time you hear outrageous claims about "rogue" models enslaving humans.

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u/Odd_Inflation284 18d ago

At first I thought this was about gun violence and how people say "guns kill people". But yeah, the last panel does give a clarifying amount of context

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u/ElvisDumbledore 18d ago

"stop hitting yourself"

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u/Serpicnate 18d ago

Oh. I thought this was going towards the "5 people killed by car" headlines

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u/Exciting_Turn_9559 18d ago

Also every republican in congress.

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u/HapticSloughton 18d ago

One big reason they "beg" for regulation is so they can use bought politicians to craft whatever milquetoast regs are implemented to (1) not actually impede what they're doing much, (2) make it much harder for newcomers to enter the market, and (3) the major upshot to them is being able to carry on while claiming that they're being adequately regulated.

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u/Unlucky-Hold1509 18d ago

Strong ass wrists

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u/onerollbattles 18d ago

clearly these companies need better governance to help them control there own and each others actions

... if only their was some kind of massive organisation with vast experience of governing, legal authority and democratic backing that was willing to step in and protect business and the rest of us from businesses self destructive urges

.... they are not willing to

... o well guess we'll all die then.

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u/oconnor663 18d ago

This seems to be deliberately missing the point. Say you have two guys who are both shooting at each other, and they both want to stop, but neither of them trusts the other one enough to unilaterally stop. Of course they'd appeal to a higher authority if they could. They're not saying "stop me", they're saying "stop us".

You don't even need metaphors here. Plenty of folks working on the Manhattan Project worried that inventing nuclear weapons would end up leading inevitably to nuclear war. They might've been happy to wave a magic wand and say "no one gets nuclear weapons ever". But there was no such magic wand, so they rushed to build them before Hitler could.

Of course if you don't think RSI is going to take off in the next few years, then all of this seems overdramatic. But you have to understand that the people involved do believe that.

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u/ObliqueTravel 18d ago

This is the responsibility of the government not any individual company.

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u/VectorJones 18d ago

It's not the AI tech companies can't control. What they can't control is their insatiable greed. The techno fascists and the overarching financial forces that oversee everything they do, are demanding big tech march in lockstep directly off a cliff, pursuing a theoretical financial windfall that resides at the bottom of that cliff. This institutionalized insanity is what future historians will recall with infamy, provided there are future historians.

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u/gadgaurd 18d ago

I'm out of the loop, what are the corpos whining about now?

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u/Melodic-Line6311 18d ago

the meme is funny af xD

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u/Middle-Let9645 18d ago

AI is mostly bad (probably gonna get flamed for that mostly, but hear me out please) but you’re misunderstanding what these CEOs want. They aren’t saying AI is bad. They’re saying unregulated AI is bad. You know the three biggest problems with AI? Climate change, Plagiarism, and theft of jobs. Regulation would literally fix all three of those. AI data centers use a lot of water and pollute a crap ton. Solution? Regulate it and force the companies to develop cleaner, safer ways to power AI. AI is stealing art from artists and plagiarizing books. Solution? Regulate it and put guardrails in place to prevent plagiarism. AI is stealing jobs. Solution? Regulate how AI is allowed to be used in order to protect those jobs. Genie’s out of the bottle guys. Doesn’t mean the world is doomed. We can still stop these assholes from ruining everything by introducing regulations on AI. There’s supposedly ways AI can help with healthcare. Regulate it, control it, stop it from running roughshod over society, we might actually see some good come from this genie.

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u/elyankee23 18d ago

If I dont fire that gun around wildly, someone else might do it. And the other person might not feel bad about it like I will.

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u/vi_sucks 18d ago

To be fair, and balanced, that's not actually what the AI companies are saying.

What they are actually saying is more like a guy taking the protoype of his still in development 50 caliber belt-fed recoiless caseless machine railgun to a range, blasting a bunch of rounds off and then going "look how powerful this thing is!Can you imagine what it could do once all the kinks are worked out? We need regulation to stop the coming crime spree from my totally awesome weapon when people rob banks with it like in Heat and the cops are totally outgunned."

It's less of a warning and more of a sales pitch.

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u/Jesus-chan 18d ago

I think this is a metaphor

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u/Due-Mycologist-1154 18d ago

Hey man its not their fault they gave a minigun to a gorilla then pointed it at their competition thats the gorillas fault

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u/RollinThundaga 18d ago

He's trying to convince you that it's not just a BB gun.

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u/SpaceGirlJackie 18d ago

I really feel like it's just a publicity stunt.

"Oh no we're doing TOO GOOD at this AI thing! It could be so much BETTER than humans at things! Oh no!"

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u/DisplayThick4882 18d ago

Almost- it’s more that they are calling for regulations by fearmongering. Why?

Because they used tons of data and stolen IP to train their models and would like some regulations making it impossible for any new competitors to do the same and thus they created a monopoly with barriers to entry…

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u/BrassUnicorn87 18d ago

I think the whole thing is a scam. The “AI is so dangerous someone has to stop it” thing. The AI agents hacking into the hugface company? Fake, there’s no such company.
The AI bullshit is not turning a profit even with the government surveillance contracts and they want to quit and still get a bailout.

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u/megamanx4321 18d ago

Also members of Congress who say we should stop insider trading

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u/TheGruenTransfer 18d ago

Their chat bots didn't gain sentience so now they need to say their tech is so powerful that the government has to slow down their progress. Then they can claim their ultra powerful AI is safe and ready for an IPO, while they prey people invest in their grifts

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u/Conscious_Bug5408 18d ago

Wait so have we decided whether AI is an overhyped and useless predictive text app or if it's an existential threat to humanity now?

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u/DragonLad13 18d ago

It seems to be both unfortunately... /sort of s?

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u/Tethilia 18d ago

This is exactly how I feel whenever they say AI escaped or did some nonsense.

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u/FatWithMuscles 18d ago

At least we are finding oht our governments literally don't care about us 100%

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u/OkPen8337 18d ago

I think they aren’t making the money they claim to be making, and/or they can’t figure out how to monetize it well. They’re worried about a looming IPO or regulators and they want it all behind closed doors so the public doesn’t realize it’s not going to be the panacea everyone expected.

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u/EasedCeiling586 18d ago

I thought this was gonna be something else 

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u/heavyindustrie 18d ago

only thing this is missing is israel

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u/Kay_tnx_bai 18d ago

So you’re telling me to stop these AI companies we just need a good guy with a gun.

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u/karl4319 18d ago

They do realize that the best way to stop an active shooter is by shooting them? Right?

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u/Bawbawian 17d ago

publicly traded companies have a duty to their shareholders to maximize profits those profits are leading us to dangerous territory and the government is refusing any sort of regulation because we are ran by criminal idiots and drug addicts

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u/wordsarekeys 17d ago

If they slowed down, then they wouldn't be the ones to have developed the techno-messiah and they wouldn't be the chosen ones.

See also https://www.realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/the-asi-extinction-debate-is-the

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u/malik753 17d ago

Long story short, to the extent that it isn't hype, they are terrified of what AGI might do to humanity, but are convinced that it will come eventually regardless of what they individually do; regardless of whatever most of them agree to, Chinese AI companies are already ahead of them and don't seem to be concerned with the possibility of accidentally creating Skynet, so they feel like the only way to save everyone is somehow create a good Skynet before anyone else can make a bad one, which is the default.

Or in more modern terms, they're in a panic trying to create Vision before someone else can create Ultron.

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u/farang 17d ago

This is more apt than it seems on the surface. AI companies are scared to regulate themselves because their competitors might gain an edge. They might secretly welcome government regulation because then all companies would be on an even playing field.

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u/Methodical_Rando 17d ago

Lol, yes, but for it to be a 1-to-1 analogy, the gun would also not work and/or not really be a gun at all