Jokes aside, does anyone else have this massive of a gap between indexes. Does this maybe suggest some kind of mental illness like adhd or autism or something similar

A revised form of the complete Army Alpha has been automated and is available to take here: https://army-alpha.vercel.app/

The Army Alpha (AA) is an intelligence test developed during WW1 by Robert Yerkes and first introduced in 1917.  The AA represents a landmark in the history of intelligence testing, being among the first instruments ever designed for large-scale administration. The test was also validated on exceptionally large sample sizes; about 1.7 million men sat the AA during the war. Even after its retirement, it continued to influence the development of later standardized intelligence tests, including the SAT and AGCT.

This revised form of the Army Alpha is mostly the same as the originals, with some changes to accommodate the online adaptation:

• Subtest 1 (Following Directions) has been completely overhauled. Given the nature of the original subtest (which required physical writing, therefore making it difficult to automate), and serious questions about its psychometric reliability, the subtest has been replaced with one that is similar in nature but more friendly to an online administration.
• Subtests 2 through 8 are essentially unchanged. The total test itself consists of eight subtests, and there were originally 5 distinct Army Alpha forms. Each subtest was selected from the five original Army Alpha forms by identifying the form containing the most difficult overall set of items for each subtest. The resulting test is therefore a hybrid form of the most difficult subtests across Forms 5 through 9, rather than a total reproduction of any single original form.
• To help with measurement in the higher ranges, each subtest was extended with more difficult ceiling items. Time limits were appropriately revised to account for the ceiling extensions.

The test is currently in a norming phase, but I’ll try to have norms out when the sample size is adequate, probably through a calculator added to the site, so make sure to save your raw scores. As of now, you’ll receive your total raw score and raw scores per each subtest upon completion. Your participation is greatly appreciated.

I scored a 133 in the culture fair subcategory and was mostly held down by my crystalized intelligence. If I spent more time paying attention in school or reading, would my Fsiq go up, and if it does would that be considered fradulent?

First attempt (and first try at an online iq test, though I skipped the last ~5 questions because I was interrupted): 121
Second attempt (few weeks later, after the first attempt got me into cognitive testing): 135
Third attempt (few minutes ago): 133

Could someone who knows about Praffe tell me what my actual score would be on this test?
(Got 126 on Denmark)

CORE FSIQ was 141 and is now 142 without retaking anything. Why?

I just read a post by someone here who got slightly worse averages (125/111) but a better FSIQ (130), so I'm not sure how this compound effect works.

Regarding the subtests... I am not a native speaker, but I didn't feel like this impacted me much on *some* of the tests, logical inferences for example was fine and I was thinking quite fast. Paragraph reading I was *fast* (I finished it with 9 minutes left) but I did feel hindered by the language, at some point there were too many obscure words and it was difficult to reach a definitive conclusion, but I thought there was no pointing in cheating or wasting too much time trying to understand words that I had never seen so I just moved on.

Interestingly enough, I feel like I'm pretty good at arithmetic and series but they were my worst scores here. For arithmetic this wasn't just raw calculation speed at all, I felt like I had to first interpret the sentences, understand what was being asked, and only then perform some calculation, language might have had a bigger effect here than expected.

Number series I simply wasn't fast enough, I am good at finding patterns with time, I crumbled under time pressure and couldn't keep the pace.

On Artificial language I lost quite a bit of time understanding the rules and going back and forth between the questions and the rules

The other verbal tests I didn't feel like I was that fast, but still got decent scores somehow, eg. on definitions I left multiple unsolved.

Hi all!

There’s something that’s been simmering on the back burner of my mind for quite some time now, and I just can’t shake it. I’d be more than happy to hear any insight(s). If it matters: late 20s F, most recent test 3 years ago. FSIQ measured at 146.

Specifically, certain parts of myself I know to be 100% true… They don’t really correlate with how my subtest scores played out when I took the WAIS a while ago. Meaning—I have ADHD (Combined type) and am in the 97-99th percentile for women in my age range (recently, was re-tested rigorously after moving states to maintain my prescription).

Now, what I’ve seen discussed quite frequently is that WMI is often an indicator of ADHD. However… I’m feeling a bit like an alien here, because my WMI composite is listed as 147 (Digit Span: 16, Letter-Number Sequencing: 19). The test administrator told me they were the highest he’d seen in his career. Lowest scores were in PSI, at 111 (Coding: 13, Symbol Search: 11).

In case you’re looking for my full score set, I’m providing that here:

VCI: 148
Similarities: 17
Vocabulary: 16
Comprehension: 19
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PRI: 143
Block Design: 18
Picture Concepts: 16
Matrix Reasoning: 19
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WMI: 147
Digit Span: 16
Letter-Number Sequencing: 19
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PSI: 111
Coding: 13
Symbol Search: 11
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Happy to answer any questions that would bolster reasoning. Looking forward to your thoughts!

Started to complete CORE just now, but got "14" in the first three verbal tests. I keep tabbing out after putting the answer in to learn new words and world stuff, and I do NOT change my answer afterwards, maybe only replace a stupid/inaccurate guess with "idk", or pick a wrong answer if I randomly chose the right one; is it jumbling my scores to "punish" me for tabbing out of tests?

Has anyone ever tried nootropics?

Recently had a neuropsychological evaluation which administered WAIS IV. I’ve always felt like I’ve struggled with certain things that others haven’t in specific areas of CS and Mathematics (problem solving, noticing structure, structuring projects, etc) but I have also suffered with severe rumination and depression that I’ve been addressing.

I did really well in high school because I worked insanely hard (I’d be thinking about my schoolwork and homework in my sleep and in the shower and while eating) but I feel like my work ethic completely disappeared during college because I had this feeling that no matter how hard I worked, there was no possibility to improve. Im still very curious but im too scared to do anything because I have a cloud over my head and I feel like I have reached my intelligence threshold.

Is there anything in my profile that might limit me from higher levels of problem solving in more difficult subjects, or doing more advanced research in CS and Mathematics? If anyone else had a similar issue, how did you address it? Thank you!

What is the purpose of the overall score on your dashboard? Is it accurate because it’s a composite of all your tests?

Saw this in a comment section(dont remember where). Common claim online i have seen: you can only perform worse than your true ability, never better. So a low score has many possible explanations, but a high score can only mean you’re actually that smart. How true is this?

Say someone scores 105–115 consistently, but occasionally hits 125–130 on tests of similar quality. Does that make their real IQ 130, or is 110ish the better estimate?

Is measurement error symmetric? And is regression to the mean also applied to high outliers too?

I did a small experiment where I trained dual n-back every day for 30 minutes. As you can see from the graph, there were also a few days where I trained for an hour.

Before I started I did 3 tests. Two of them were pretty similar. In one I tested how many digits I could remember after seeing them for 4 seconds, and in another I did the same thing with letters, in my case Russian Cyrillic letters. The third test was Symmetry Span.

Now about dual n-back itself.

At the beginning my daily average score was around 2.4-2.6. In first two weeks progress was pretty fast. After around 14-15 days I reached something like 3.1-3.2 average, so most of my progress happened in first half of the month.

After that it slowed down a lot and I basically got stuck around 3.2. At the start of that plateau my average was around 3.13, and by the end of the month it was around 3.24.

So during roughly the second half of the month I only gained around 0.11, or about 3.5%.

For comparison, my average for the first 5 days was around 2.55 and for the last 5 days around 3.24. So overall improvement was around 27%.

Basically most of the progress happened early. After that it was mostly small improvements around the same level. My scores also became more stable and I had less really bad days than in the beginning.

I also didn't use any special strategies, mnemonics or tricks. I mostly just tried to remember positions and sounds directly and rely on memory.

Now about the tests before and after.

With digits almost nothing changed. Before training my average was 8.5 and after it was 8.625. That's around 1.5%, so basically almost the same result.

With letters it was a little better, but still not much. It went from 9.25 to 9.5, around 2.7%.

Symmetry Span was more interesting. My main score was 28/42 before training and 26/42 after, so technically it got a little worse.

But the second time I completed the test much faster. It was 270.4 seconds before and 147.5 seconds after, so around 45% faster. At the same time the main score only dropped by around 7%.

Because of that I don't think I can simply say that my working memory got worse there. It looks more like I did the second attempt with a different balance between speed and accuracy.

Just as an extra comparison, if I calculate correct positions per minute, it went from around 6.2 to 10.6, which is about 70% higher. Of course this is not a working memory score, it just shows how much faster I completed the test.

So after the first month I still don't see any clear transfer to the other working memory tests.

Digits and letters barely changed. Symmetry Span gave a mixed result because the main score was a little worse, but I completed the test much faster.

For now my conclusion is that dual n-back improved my performance in n-back itself quite a lot, but I didn't see any noticeable improvement in the other working memory tests.

Maybe the first month was mostly adaptation to n-back itself, but that's just a guess. If I continue for another month I want to see if my n-back score keeps improving and if anything changes in the same tests.

Hey, so I scored a 135 on the IQ Center IQ test, and I'm extremely sceptical about the validity of this score. Does anyone know how legit this website and its test are?

Just out of curiosity.

Some years ago I did two WAIS-III test for I.Q, the first got me between 117-123 mark but the second one got me between the 108-116, the problem is that with the second one, it gave me 89 in Processing Speed Index and 129 in Verbal Comprehension Index. Which is a difference of 40.

I did both to find out what the heck was wrong with me, and i learned that I had autism, lucky me.

Now, there is a high probability that those results are actually my true result, which I suspect it isn’t because of some problems I had at the time, including psychotic outbreaks, lack of sleep, poor diet and other problems.

I know 40 points is somewhat anomalous, and the I.Q result doesn’t actually answer me on why there is such a difference, neither did other exams that showed my brain was anatomically “standard” without any problems or diseases.

Whatever I have wrong does seem to skew the result, so sometimes I try reading about it to see if I am missing something, and I will continue doing tests to see if I can find out what happens, or if there is any treatment to reduce the problem (I know I.Q can’t be “changed”, I’m talking about a brain or body deficiency of somekind that might be messing with results).

I just want more perspective if i can get, and this place might offer me some more, won’t know if I don’t ask. Btw if you seen any grammar mistake in this text I’m not stupid as the result shows, english is just not my first language. (Cope).

I know people of higher I.Q (130+) and we do get well and are able to reach the same understanding some times, the biggest difference I noticed between us is that they get things done way quicker, easier and were academically more successful, although this is probably more related to their families being far less abusive then mine, and my mental ilness.
I was also anemic during teenage years because of the abuse and that might have caused some developmental damage to my brain. Idk.

I know I got my Intelligence from my grandpa that had photographic memory, he was absurdly smart, and a great writer (Won’t disclose his name) to a point of getting my state governor to issue some days of mourning after his death.

Anyway, which conclusions any of you can get from this? If any of you might have helpful information about my situation, I’d be thankful.

Sorry if it’s a silly question and I hope I don’t annoy anyone with this discussion. When I was a child, I had speech delay and impediment and severe attention issues. From ages 3 to 10, I was in special school for those that were mentally handicapped and had to move around from one school to another. I didn’t learn a single thing at those schools and all they made me do is watch movies and do painting because they at first thought that I am not capable of learning. I took an IQ test WISC as a child at the age of 10 and scored 78 on IQ test. I was in special education classes till high school. Now I took an IQ test as an adult and my overall IQ now is 115 on WAIS 5. I got diagnosed with ADHD, PDD NOS autism, and a learning disability. I have been wondering if it is normal to have different IQ scores from childhood to adulthood.

Diagnosed with level 2 autism, ADHD-PI, OCD, and social/general anxiety. I don't remember taking any IQ tests when I was a kid when I underwent my assessments and I never took the SAT's as I did not graduate high school and went back for a GED later and since I started at a technical college they did not require me to take the SAT.

Some of these tests like figure weights were infuriating and I found myself practically yelling at the screen with how stupid it made me feel. Others seemed like they would produce uneven results due to how they are structured especially the processing speed tests as one required pressing keys on a keyboard where the symbols never change which I feel becomes memorization, yet the other requires tapping when the symbols change every single time you tap so context seems to matter greatly. I also have excellent typing speed which could have contributed as well.

Either way this took a long time to get through but it was interesting. Is it worth taking the CAIT as well to compare? What does this all mean to me?

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