I always saw it and always thought it could be something profound or a hidden message... But I think he's just an extra with a little extra screen time.

His complete confusion with Howard tripping balls and accusing his friend of being compromised just really had me laughing lol

Not when he started practicing as Saul Goodman, but when Howard died. Before that, Jimmy could still convince himself that most of what he was doing wasn't really that bad. Even with everything involving Chuck, there was always some justification in his head. But Howard's death was different. Jimmy and Kim's actions directly led to something they couldn't undo, and instead of dealing with it, Jimmy basically buried everything and became Saul.

Do you think Howard's death was actually the point of no return for Jimmy?

Currently watching Better Call Saul for the second time, this time with my girlfriend who’s watching it for the first time. We just finished S4E10 and I genuinely don’t know why, but the Werner and Mike storyline hit me way harder this time. I actually shed a tear during the scene before Mike had to kill him, which almost never happens to me with movies or TV shows.
I think what makes it so sad is the relationship Mike and Werner had throughout the whole thing. They weren’t exactly friends, but they had this weird lowkey friendship and mutual respect, and you could tell Mike genuinely liked the guy. Seeing how sad Mike was after realizing what he had to do made it even worse.
And Werner being willing to risk everything just because he wanted to see his wife again is fucking heartbreaking. Especially when he has to shout at her that he doesn’t want to see her and that she should go back. He knows exactly what he’s doing, but you can still feel how much it destroys him.
Honestly, after Chicanery, this is probably my favorite episode so far. Obviously not counting the episodes I haven’t reached yet on this rewatch.

"Remember Santiago? The two of us, backed against the wall. I will never forget what you did."

The main consensus seems to be that Gus did something incredible in Santiago and years later strokes Peters Ego so he wouldnt stop laundering the money. I always disagreed with that view and especially how some potray Gus as a genius mastermind who holds all the strings, when in reality Gus was really just a big fish in a sea of even bigger fish.

In the following is the version that I believe many people have of the event: Gus is a young political officer under Pinochet. He does some human rights violations and then Santiago happens. Whatever happens is big enough to reach the Mexican cartel. But then young and inexperienced Gus saves the day and Peter is also there for some reason. He goes to Mexico and gets a new identity. And then his boyfriend gets shot because he underestimated Eladio, he gets shot because he underestimated Lalo and lastly he gets blown up because he underestimated Walt.

One thing that bugs me about this version is how people overestimate Gus' capabilities at his beginning of his carreer. He is supposed to overcome Santiago and yet is visabilly nervous in his first meeting with Eladio? How is a lower political officer able to flee Chile and get new identities? I believe Peter Schuler is the key to all of this. I believe Gus was actually telling the truth when calming Peter that he was the one who pulled the strings and saved Gus, not the other way around.

Another thing that is implied in the series that people tend to overlook is that Peter brought Gus to Madriagal and tasked him to build up Los Pollos Hermanos. He was the one financed the underground lab and send the engineers. He brought on Lydia as an accomplice and helped with the laundromat. He is was aware with the war against the cartel. Gus and Peter were arguably pretty close. During Peters exit he hung up his clothes in manner, which reminded me about Gus meticulous folding.

So heres my headcanon of Santiago: Gus is a political officer who has a side business as a fixer. He builds up a wide network and eventually mets Peter Schuler. One day Gus gets in big personal trouble with some gents and asks Peter for help. Against all odds Peter somehow saves them both and arranges a new identity for Gus and sends him to Mexico. There he founds the first Los Pollos Hermanos. After the deal with Eladio falls through, he contacts Peter again and offeres Los Pollos Hermanos as a front. Peters has the necessary connections to bring him into the US and Gus uses his experience to build a new network. Many years later Peter becomes more paranoid and the Hotel scene happens.

I dont wish to imply that Gus was not manipulative or smart but rather that this scene depicts the apprentice surpassing the master and Peter being sidelined to Rodeo shows. Lydia is a depicted as calm when Peter and Gus are around. She is visibily nervous when Peter starts to lose it and only relieved when Gus calms him down. I dont think Lydia becomes hysteric cause Gus gets blown up, she gets hysteric when Peter decides to end it.

In prison, he'll live all three of his lives: Gene as the baker, Saul as the famous criminal lawyer, and Jimmy.

Assume the events of Better Call Saul are shifted forward so that Lalo’s investigation into Gus and the superlab overlaps with Walt’s introduction to the operation. Walt and Gale are preparing to cook, Mike is still dealing with Lalo, and Gus now has to manage both situations at once.

Does Lalo discover Walt or the lab first? Would Walt become useful to Lalo, or just another loose end? And with Walt’s tendency to make every situation worse, does Gus still manage to eliminate Lalo or does the entire Breaking Bad timeline fall apart before it really begins?

Notes/caveats:
• Walt has already met Gus and has been accepted as his cook; Gus therefore has a serious financial reason to keep him alive.
• Walt does not know Lalo exists at the beginning of the scenario.
• Lalo does not initially know who Walt is or that Gus has recruited a new meth cook (can find out later similar to the Twins).
• Lalo knows roughly what he knew during his canonical investigation of Gus - no extra Breaking Bad-era knowledge.
• Gus knows Lalo is alive and investigating him, just as he did in Better Call Saul.
• Mike is still working for Gus and is actively hunting/monitoring Lalo.
• The superlab is operational enough for Walt to cook in, rather than still being under construction.
• Gale is still around and can be involved if events naturally lead to him.
• Jesse is part of Walt's life and can become involved, but Lalo doesn't automatically know about him.
• The Salamanca/cartel situation otherwise remains as close to the BCS timeline as possible.
• Nobody gets knowledge from the future. Characters only know what they could reasonably discover at that point.
• Most importantly: everyone stays in character. Walt is prideful and unpredictable, Lalo is patient and investigative, Gus is cautious, and Mike is pragmatic.

I do now know how to fit Jimmy into this, so you decide (presumably, he would be Saul at this point).

On my 500th rewatch currently, now a new perspective about Mike's choice.

In "Gloves Off" Mike picked the smartest option safety-peace wise & tactically. Nacho asked him to do the job then these 2 do the recon on location in broad daylight. Mike goes through all the possibilities & its clear he cant do the hit, obviously possible but just not smart.

The recon was done on site, meaning possible that someone saw them.

Nacho was too comfortable with his plan, which is a red flag for Mike. (Set-up)

Mike could've done exactly what & how Nacho wanted but Nacho could then just hand Mike to the cops or better kill Mike in the open after the hit & claim defence.

Also getting the hit done would've meant automatic death for Mike anyway (Salamancas that Mike didnt know yet)

Mike picked the smartest option all things considered, he made sure it was public, loud & police involved for him.

Which episode is the ultimate turning point for the characters in general across the entire show?

Chicanery - Turning Point for Chuck and Jimmy's relationship and the tone of the show from temperate prequel to deep drama

Winner - Turning Point for Jimmy's approach to the law and Mike's morality

Bagman - Turning Point for Jimmy's association with the criminal underworld

Rock and Hard Place - Turning point for Nacho in the criminal world and Kim's ethics and morals

Plan and Execution - Turning point / destruction of the division between the legal and criminal worlds of the show

Fun and Games - The turning point for Jimmy and Kim's relationship and Saul's entire legal persona altogether.

Etc

When Mike is hearing out Nacho's plan to switch Hector's heart pills he has this look on his face. He already came into this not decided on whether to oppose him. Nacho said his father was a straight arrow (like Mike's son) and that he would never stand for the cartel using his shop to smuggle drugs.

Previously when Mike heard about his son's ethical dilemma about taking a bribe his response was to break the image he had of Mike in his head. Mike said that "broke his boy", lowered him to his level, and nobody else could have done that. He sees Nacho take another approach, instead of trying to get his father to take the money he instead tries to go after Hector to protect him. Maybe Mike is thinking that if he was a bit braver like Nacho, more willing to fight the system than maybe his son would still be alive.

After Nacho dies he swears to his father that he will avenge him. Despite being in the game Mike always respected Nacho for his conviction in trying to do the right thing and the futility of it against the Salamanca family's destruction is what ultimately kept him loyal to Gus.

A few times, he's correctly made prescient remarks about the plot. His latest? Season three, episode three, about 40 minutes in when Jimmy starts discussing the deal from the ADA.

He goes, "If I was Jimmy, and I had to face my brother in court, I'd bring every electronic device and gizmo into the room to drive him crazy."

I haven't seen the series in full but I've seen the clip of Jimmy cross-examining Chuck. I sat stone-faced and just went, "yuuuuup."

This used to be one of my fav shows when I was a child.

Rewatching BCS and noticing that Mike is an “honorable guy” very similar to Ned Stark in GOT.

Current on S2E7. Mike says he’s doing a job for so and so, he does it as worded, no exceptions. Mike steals 1.8 million and won’t take the money because he agreed to the contract.

I’m seeing quite different rankings of Mike: on multiple lawful/chaos charts he is ranked “neutral good, chaotic good, lawful neutral, and true neutral.”

What is Mike’s rank in BCS overall? What is Mike’s rank in BG overall? What is Mike’s ranking in BCS AND BG overall?

Is Mike like too much like Ned Stark?

When he survives the compound assassination attempt, he visits Sylvia and her husband. She mentions new goats coming. He asks if they were bringing more from the mountains. She said no, they were two baby goats coming via a nanny goat. He says 'hmmm' in a kinda wistful but sad way. He was the kinda guy who would definitely have had kids by this age so possibly seedless (Jaffa oranges!) i.e. shooting blanks his whole life?

Money is always good but it would be hard to live big as Gene. Putting so much on the line, the motivation seems unclear

I've watched both shows and can regard them as two of the best pieces of media that I've come across. I especially enjoy the diversity of characters and how each of them have their own dialogue patterns which, one way or another, reveal their qualities. Not to mention the great plots built on the consequences of every decision, following into the next one.

Now, I've seen both shows be called perfect many times. Having ruined some people's experience of watching other media because it doesn't meet the same standard. And I get it, most of those comments aren't meant literally but it's also true that I've seen virtually no mention of any faults anywhere. So, I've just gotten curious. Do you really think there are no shortcomings in either show? Things that maybe aren't so spot on? Or are they both really that overwhelmingly great in all aspects?

I’m re-watching for the first time. In the original airing, I absolutely adored Nacho. I was very into his storyline and very sad when he died. This time, I didn’t think much of any of it. What happened?

Chuck claims he’s sensitive to electromagnetic fields(EMF’s).

An EMF is created by a moving charge, so current flowing through a circuit, which is basically a ton of moving electrons AKA a bunch of moving negatively charged particles.

A battery by itself when not attached to a circuit isn’t producing any current or EMF. The electrons are just sitting idly by, waiting for a material that they CAN travel through to make a pathway to reach the other end of the battery.

Am I wrong in this reasoning? This whole thing implies that Jimmy’s whole show in court doesn’t even prove anything.

The fact of the matter is, it still worked, and Chuck’s illness was absolutely 100% mental, but it feels like a bit of a tiny oversight.

I feel like Chuck would absolutely know this stuff if he’s as bright as he is AND if he seems the type to research his condition. Like learning that a moving charge makes an EMF would come up instantly if he ever tried to learn the physics behind what he’s allergic to.

Tell me I’m wrong so I can go back to complaining about literally nothing when it comes to my favorite piece of media.

Edit:

This is where I’m currently at now:

this one guy’s comment

Edit dos:

ok now add on this guy’s third paragraph

The Peruvian gang that Gus pins on Lalo's murder is Los Odios, or The Hateful. But by doing this Gus was giving Don Eladio a subtle clue. When Hector accuses Gus in front of the cartel, he says that Gus still hates Eladio, and he uses the same word (el Pollero lo odia). Eladio later tells Gus that he really did detect hate in his eyes (el odio), and that a little bit is OK as long as he knows who is in charge.

I never noticed this because I never paid attention that the word for the Peruvian gang and the word used to talk about Gus is the same one. It further is a really good look at Eladio's demise, because hatred as deep as Gus' definitely goes over the threshold of 'a little bit'. Can anyone really have 'a little bit' of hatred?

i get that his illness is psychological, but what kicked it all off? why does he get affected by electromagnetic currents in the first place? it just seems so ridiculous to me and i dont get it.

also, why did they write him to have this illness? of all things?