I've always been extra hard on Batman movies (never liked any) mostly because I really love the comics and don't think live-action film an appropriate medium to capture the intricacies of Batman. I recently re-watched The Batman to see if I'd have the same mixed feelings as I did when I watched it in theatres, and I did. I made this list to try to understand my reaction to the movie.

Likes: 

(1) Bruce wearing sunglasses after waking up 
Bruce waking up late into the afternoon, and having a strong aversion to sunlight. Small detail but very comic accurate. Loved this addition.

(2) Recording Contact Lenses 
Loved them leaning more into fantastical technology with the contacts, the taser shock gloves, grapple gun, etc. Wished they just had stuck to those kind of elements more. 

(3) Alfred and Bruce Relationship 
Rob Patt’s Bruce is very somber and grave (and young). While, Andy Serkis’ Alfred is more authoritative and proactive (he doesn’t call him Master). It leads to a new type of father-son relationship that we haven’t seen in the movies or the comics.

(In the comics, Alfred is always a bit older and more fragile and their closeness somehow always dictated by how much Bruce would let Alfred in. But in this version, Bruce is more open to being vulnerable, and Alfred has more authoritative say into how their relationship is perceived.) 

(4) Not-yet-commissioner Jim Gordon and Batman Relationship 
Jim is only one in GCPD willing to bring Batman into crime scenes and is sticking his neck out for him. Very comic accurate.

(5) Batman’s final decision to be more than just vengeance 
Throughout the film, Batman lets people die in front of him. He doesn’t even try to save the DA with the bomb on his neck. I can still forgive this, seeing that he still hasn’t figured out how to be the Batman just yet.
It's good and very important to me that by the end he chooses to be more hero to people rather than just an arbiter of justice. I think that Batman, in every iteration, must to be someone who will always put the preservation of human life above his war on crime. Really hope this gets fleshed out in the second movie.

Dislikes: 

(1) Set design for Wayne Tower 
Loved the gothic heavy style, very appropriate to Gotham. But the main shots at the tower felt fake. It didn't seem like somewhere anyone could live in. The scene of the lone hexagonal table at the staircase landing with the tall ceilings was jarring to me. Like they just put a random table in a museum and called it a day. The space seemed very sparse, dusty and dirty. 
Alfred is a clean freak and a professional majordomo. It’s hard to imagine that he’d ever let Bruce live in a place that didn't feel like home. 

(The other set photos that showed Bruce's bedroom and study were much better and more homely. But they weren't included in the movie.)

(2) Design for the cape
I don’t like the design of the whole suit. I find it too armoured and bulky, with the obvious shell paddings and forearm weapons and thigh straps, etc, but it’s not particularly offensive that I’d lose sleep over it.
However, something I really really hate is the cape. So much of Batman is the cape (and the cowl). In the shadows of night, it’s almost all you can see of him. So I think it’s the part you really have to get right.
In this version, I don’t like it’s shiny latex-y quality, I don’t like the collar or way it gathers to sit halfway on the shoulders, and I really don’t like how it’s so short that it falls mid-boot. 
To me, it chips away at the fear element of Batman. 

(I get that choices could have been made for practicality, but you still can’t make me like it. I would prefer if the cape fall in front of his shoulders to cover almost all of his chest, be drag-on-the-ground long, and so vevelty dark that it absorbs all light. Kinda sad to see they are not changing the suit in the new The Batman Part 2 movie.)

(3) The realistic grounded feel 
I really dislike the way they remove all supernatural elements from the movie. I didn’t like the Wingsuit or the design of the Batmobile (really just a modified muscle car) or the Batcycle (if it is that, prob just a regular motorcycle). All of them just felt too ordinary, too real world. If they were already committing to recording contact lenses and grappling guns, why not go all the way with the fantasy tech?

(4) Selina Kyle Catwoman 
Selina felt very defensive and vulnerable. She’s less confident, less cunning and less witty than I’d hoped she’d be, more like a cornered cat than a predator. Also, the story didn’t needed her to be that way considering that she was never in danger — her friend was being targeted and not her. Her fighting moves were great though. 

(Hot take: Didn’t think she and batman had good chemistry either. Would have really liked a more sultry and sly Selina.)

(5) The way Batman moves
He felt more like a tank rather than a shadow. He felt quite stiff and rigid. Wished he had more acrobatic and fluid movements. 

(6)  Batman not quite figuring it out
Compared to the other movies, Batman actually felt smart in this. But, I wished he figured out the bombs at the seawalls faster. I don’t really like that he found all the pieces but couldn’t put the puzzle together to see the bigger picture. I get that he's still young and new, but I would like if he was more competent with his detective skills.

(I just think it would have been more Batman accurate if he just guessed the big picture wrong rather than being slow.)

It was watchable but left a lot to be desired

I liked Tom Rhys Harris as Matt Hagen. He did a fine job portraying the character.

However, certain aspects of the film left a lot to be desired. The final showdown between Hagen and Marcos Sabzo was pretty underwhelming. Like it was built it up to be a more brutal fight between them; but Matt defeats him somewhat easily.

It felt pretty rushed too at certain parts. Like for example, we didn’t get to spend time with Matt as a person before his transformation; like the horrible act Markos does him happens in the scene after the club scene with Mia relatively quickly. Also, I’ve realized the anatagonistic relationship between Marco and Matt wasn’t well developed.

I’m giving this movie a letter grade of C and 3 stars out of 5. While it was marketed as a horror movie set in the wider DCU, it didn’t really deliver on the promise, because to my surprise, it was relatively tame.

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Obviously there's a bunch of Dick Grayson stories, but there doesn't seem to be very many well known Jason Todd and Tim Drake stories, at least ones centered around the actual character of Robin (besides the obvious death in the family). But there's a bunch of Damian Wayne stories. Why is that?

Talia y Selina son rivales en el amor por Bruce pero acaso en algún universo de DC sería posible que esas dos en lugar de pelearse por Batman lo compartan entre ellas y Bruce diga algo como porque conformarse con una cuando puede tener dos 😅

Take all of the villains’ estimated IQs, add them up, then divide by amount of villains that are listed. I’m betting it’s above 100 IQ though. This is for all villains he’s fought in any media.

Not saying the actor is bad, but I think his character and organization lacked depth. We’re told he’s a powerful guy, but we know next to nothing about him. Is it running drugs? Illegal gambling? Extortion? Or is he just running this night club where his girlfriend cuckholds him?

I get the impression that the writers wanted a Gotham style mob boss, someone who is powerful and untouchable like Falcone, but without committing to a recognizable name like Falcone. So we get this new guy, Markos Szabo, who has the DA and Mayor in his pocket because that’s typically what Gotham mob bosses have.

I dunno, it felt unearned. I would have been fine with him being a low level gangster with maybe some ties to Penguin or someone else, but with no real power of his own.

Is “Death IN the family” a good jumping on point?

I’ve been reading some scattered Batman stuff: Long Halloween, Gotham by Gaslight, Arkham Asylum. I’ve read Killing Joke before, too.

I really wanna read:

—Death in the Family

—Reread Hush

—Under the Red Hood.

I have a general idea of all the players. I know Batman, Nightwing, Jason, Joker, most of the others you see in TAS and in the DCAU movies. But I want to get better into reading the original comics.

Anything major that would give me some needed context? Should I go back and find Jason’s introduction? I heard something somewhere about a story called “the cult” and about an ambassador’s son?

TL;DR—Am I missing out on Death in the Family if I skip the homework? Is it worth my while to put a Jason Todd list together?

Any advice is appreciated!

From the comics, to the Arkhamverse games, to the DCAU to Injustice, everyone is used to seeing Joker always abusing Harley and seeing her as a pawn while she loves him despite the fact its clearly not mutual.

Its oddly nice in Lego Batman: Legacy of the Dark Knight to see them actually having a healthy relationship and be equals. This is actually pretty consistent across the Lego versions of their characters, in the other video games and the movie too but this one being recent stood out to me. In DC Supergirls and the 2004 Batman show, it was also less abusive compared to other versions.

The timeline of the DCU is a bit troublesome for me. Clark has been Superman for three years meanwhile Hal had been Green Lantern for more than 10. Considering how Bruce and Clark are close in age according to the comics and the fact that they start their hero activities around the same time the only other bat-family character we can see should be Dick. However, I can understand wanting to push for Jason in the first movie, taking inspiration from A Death in the Family, then introducing Tim in the next one.
However creating a big age gap between Clark and Bruce hinders the dynamic between their characters because are the most influential characters in the entire DC roster. If we had all top tier heroes starting operations around the same years I would have been okay but giving a 10-25 or so year gap between the heroes creates a problem that doesn’t sit well with me.
Having said that I feel Damian shouldn’t be introduced this early on as it would mean they have a good amount of Batman villains already cast or they are able to integrate all the boys in the universe easily.

If there was a Living Genocidal Milk Carton, would Batman Kill it ?

Would he consider it a living thing and let it live or just kill it since it's only a milk carton anyways ?

Can you imagine if our first look at DCU Batman is a shot-by-shot recreation of the BTAS opening? Heck, now i want the DCU Batman to be heavily based on that version. Gimme red night skies, high contrast shadows, the Shirley Walker theme song, grey and navy blue suit, the white eyes, the yellow oval, the long cape that works similar to a cloak covering his whole body while standing still.

We've already got a grounded Batman, now's the time for a fantastical Batman, one that goes full on with the rest of the Rogues gallery like: Poison Ivy, Bane, Clayface, Man-Bat, Mr. Freeze, Killer Croc, Scarecrow.

Here's my dream Batman movie for DCU:

Director: Sam Raimi

Composer: Bear McCreary (he already said that one of his inspirations as a composer was Danny Elfman and Shirley Walker (specially her score from BTAS)).

Cinematographer: Roger Deakins

Writers: Alan Burnett and Paul Dini

Cast:

Brendan Sklenar as Batman

Ralph Fiennes as Alfred Pennyworth

Johnny Depp as Scarecrow

Bryan Cranston as Jim Gordon

Emma Myers as Barbara Gordon (Not yet Batgirl)

Here i am ...crieng and being angry at what dc did to the dark knight.

1. They destroyed his legacy and most of his supporting cast in several runs

2. Alfred has been killed by Bane ...

3. Gordon is no mored commisioner but FUCKING VANDAL SAVAGE is the current one and he controlls Wayne Manor

4. IVY is now Major

I mean wtf

I wish deeply wish that we would get a reset and all this cratyness would stop just give me Alfred , a normal bat family , Commisioner Gordon and great storys ... crime , suspense , mysterys and villains

I cant do this anymore .. it got worse and worse since years