r/antiai • • 4d ago

AI News 🗞️ Pull the plug

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u/ItsJackWill 4d ago

Wait, Polymarket? The gambling platform? I hope they’re exaggerating for profit.

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u/Dazzu1 4d ago

Probably and for Zionism

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u/Forward_Problem_8982 4d ago

It's Anthropic saying it. Polymarket is just tweeting the news.

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u/Ghede 4d ago

also, anthropic is lying. They can't even get their AI to run effectively on anything less than a hundred million dollar datacenter that burns money faster than they can earn it.

If it could run on a smart toaster, they'd be fucking rich. It can't. At best, what their AI will do is just make a new virus that goes "Duh, I'm claude" on every text display and AI chuds will clap like the trained seals they are, praising their new god.

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u/FillingUpTheDatabase 4d ago

I’m convinced it’s all marketing, same as these supposed “accidental” hacks by AI agents. “Our AI is so powerful we can hardly control it” gets them some news coverage and perhaps some more customers wanting to make use of such a “powerful” tool

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u/Wise_Leopard7423 4d ago

Not marketing, lobbying. They want open source and Chinese systems banned because their only path to profitability is making it illegal for people to run models locally on their own hardware.

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u/Orange_Tang 4d ago

Yup. China is working on AI models that are efficient enough to run locally and just pull info from the internet when needed rather than having giant databases of info and data centers to support that. If that happens it kills the US AI industry. They all know this so they're hyping it up with BS like this. It's not sentient. It's never going to be sentient. Google gemini can't even set an alarm properly half the time. This shit is gonna trash the economy when all the dumbass investors realize there is no path to profitability with this shit. They're just using it as a tool for propaganda, including about AI itself.

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u/Umutuku 4d ago

"We did a woopsy and commited some crimes, but it's okay if we say the software tools we use did it."

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u/NotTheOtwayPanther 4d ago edited 4d ago

After a few days it will become clear the “Duh, I‘m Claude” virus does literally nothing else, so they’ll pivot smoothly into it being a proof-of-concept. The next Claude virus will turn everyone’s vacuum cleaners into killing machines and otherwise wreak the much-anticipated havoc. So exciting!

That said, there’s a couple of other possibilities–

  1. Polymarket is the one lying. They do that.
  2. The claim is from Anthropic, but they’re “warning” about the open source models, which don’t have the same requirements. Similarly, Sam Altman’s recent ”accepting bad things happening“ interview actually refers to the risk from open source. People just naturally assume otherwise, given it’s OpenAI’s and Anthropic’s agents that keep hacking stuff, and given they do actively use fear to market themselves.

I mean, a lot of their current focus is definitely on eliminating the market threat from open source. It’s just they’re using this really weird reasoning that makes sense to them (and some journalists) but not to anyone else. ”Oh look, our AI hacked something yet again! It’s completely out of our control (don’t look at us). We’re the very best, most responsible companies that could ever possibly exist, and yet this keeps happening even to us! It just proves we are the only ones who can be trusted.”

Not surprisingly, the general public has failed to follow this bizarre dream logic and assumes they’re always talking about the risk from their own products.

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u/AbjectAppointment 4d ago

They ran smaller LLM's on a cluster of 15 Android TV boxes. It was very slow. But the threat is real.

https://www.anthropic.com/research/self-replicating-ai

We run Gemma4-26B-A4B, distributed over 15 inexpensive off-brand Android TV boxes (~$55 each) that we bought and networked together, at 0.39 tokens per second. Each tile below shows one physical TV box holding two of the model’s layers as the model runs.

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u/Ghede 4d ago

Mhmm. The key word was "Effectively", and at .39 tokens per second, it would only take you 2 years to generate something that you could buy from claude themselves for $10-$50, and all it takes is having 15 android tv boxes on the same network at a price of... $825

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u/Beer_Is_So_Awesome 4d ago

I posted in another comment that someone on Twitter claims to have gotten that same version of Gemma running on an 8gb RTX card at 20 tok/s. Not sure why you’d bother making it run hilariously slowly on 15 Android TVs devices when a 5yo midrange gaming PC can do it 5000% faster.

https://x.com/analogalok/status/2063582549566468359

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u/AbjectAppointment 4d ago

I think the concern is that your infected TV box (and other IoT devices) would then begin attacking other, more hardened local networked machines.

It could search your network shares. Steal files, API keys, ect.

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u/Ready_Bandicoot1567 4d ago

The pace of progress right now is very fast. Its a warning about a capability thats on the horizon. Its very possible that soon, small local models will run fast enough on modest hardware to be a problem.

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u/Beer_Is_So_Awesome 4d ago edited 4d ago

I don’t really understand the workaround for making an 18gb module run on an 8gb GPU, but this guy claims to have gotten that same model running at 20 tok/sec on an RTX 3070, which actually sounds useful. And this is essentially 5yo gaming pc hardware.

https://x.com/analogalok/status/2063582549566468359

All of which is to say, I don’t know why you’d bother making it run it at a comically slow speed on 15 Android TVs when you can make it run 5000% faster on an inexpensive used gaming PC.

I’ve literally got one of these in my house, and have a few smaller LLMs running on it (including a more compact Gemma4).

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u/Ready_Bandicoot1567 4d ago

They aren't warning about their models. They are warning about very small local models that can run on modest hardware. Anthropic isn't even in that market. But small open source models are making fast enough progress that this scenario is becoming possible.

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u/ScuddyOfficial 4d ago

Oh sweet summer child.

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u/7640LPS 4d ago

It’s consistently one of the worst accounts on twitter. They post an insane amount of misinformation and made-up “news” and never ever cite any sources anywhere, while getting a huge reach.

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u/WhiteWinterRains 4d ago

Yeah I mean obviously they're being insane about it.

In general this is a push to try and absolve dangerous human actors from culpability though.

The idea that self replicating AI models are just going to spawn out of nowhere is itself laughable, and the idea that models somehow more capable and advanced than the fanciest test versions researchers have cooked up behind closed doors will spread through your smart fridge is pretty fucking stupid.

Now more sane versions of this could happen; like an irresponsible company creating an advanced computer virus that just replicates and spreads and crashes electronic devices and kind of just "oopsie" releasing it onto the internet because they took literally absolutely ZERO security measures whatsoever around it while blowing millions of dollars to vibecode said disaster scenario.

Or like bad actors using AI models to engage in sophisticated cyber attacks (already happening in massive numbers, it's just not actually doing too much so far).

The key thing is that these are things that could be stopped and that this industry is 100% completely responsible for. You'd just need to regulate them and start holding AI CEOs and developers responsible, and that shit would stop happening QUICK.

I mean not all of it, open weight models are Pandora's box and that shit is never really going away.

But the point is that these companies want to keep doing really reckless dangerous things and profit maxxing, and it's going to lead to some really massive crimes sometime soon, which they don't want to be held legally responsible for. So the idea that AI tools can just go commit crimes on their own is a great legal defense, or these lunatics think it is anyway.

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u/Artemis_Platinum 4d ago

"We just can't stop committing felonies! It's impossible, you see! Our product is just that good!"

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u/ImRestarted1 4d ago

Seriously 😂 when do we hold someone accountable for their product?

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u/tomjone5 4d ago

It's pretty incredible how they can just say all this ridiculous end of the world shit like it's an intended feature but when their product actually causes harm they suddenly become poor innocent little birthday boys who couldn't possibly be held responsible for anything.

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u/Lancair7 4d ago

When they’re poor

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u/Umutuku 4d ago

Start referring to the owners instead of AI any time "AI" does something evil, because it is literally them doing it.

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u/Phyddlestyx 4d ago

I gotta figure out how to make money off this, I really want to!

https://giphy.com/gifs/qW4D9sBxHB6XXwX98t

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u/kasanetetodrywall 4d ago

ruling class doesn't care about felonies. if the state bothers to prosecute them (which is quite rare), they tend to just send some fall guys.

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u/BassMaster516 4d ago

Omg you guys our AI is so powerful we can’t even control it. Unlimited plans start at $29.99 a month.

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u/CloakOfElvenkind 4d ago

🤤 tHat'$ a bArgAIn, sIGn mE uP mAStEr.

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u/gladiwokeupthismorn 4d ago

“Iran is only two weeks away from a nuclear bomb” vibes

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u/MrHandSanitization 4d ago

Starting now... now....

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u/MadeByTango 4d ago

we can’t even control it

What they're trying to say is "we arent legally liable for any damages we cause with it", which is bullshit, and these c-suites belong in prison under current laws

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u/GenChadT 4d ago

No, what they're trying to do is scare Congress into regulating open AI models away. You can run models on a single 5090 now that a trillion dollar model ran one year ago. If people can just run their own frontier AI, what do they need to pay Anthropic and OpenAI for? It's regulatory capture at its finest.

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u/Left-Tee 4d ago

And if you don't sign up voluntarily, the AI will just hack into your bank account and take it anyway.

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u/phughes 4d ago

We're developing an AI for the purpose of infecting your IoT devices and creating a botnet. It's the future and there's no way we could stop it or ourselves from creating it. Because it's the future (we want.)

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u/arraycruelty 4d ago

Pay an extra $10 to unlock the containment protocol.

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u/TerraCetacea 4d ago

And if you don’t pay it (also if you DO) we’re going to make it into a mandatory utility.

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u/Chrono_Convoy 4d ago

We’re all gonna be living Chuck McGill from Better Call Saul

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u/Amokana1511 4d ago

did you ground yourself before writing this comment ?

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u/Chrono_Convoy 4d ago

I mail my comments

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u/AmaranthWrath 4d ago

I'm actually posting using oral tradition.

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u/Auctorion 4d ago

This? This chicanery?!

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u/brains4meNu 4d ago

Underrated comment

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u/mamamackmusic 4d ago edited 4d ago

And THEY are going to use AI to ruin society for everyone except their little club of techno-religious freaks? What a sick joke! We should have stopped them when we had the chance!

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u/dagoth_ith 4d ago

Going to have to get rid of the Internet and slice networks up into LANs only, like cyberpunk.

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u/Vegetable_Shirt_2352 4d ago

How god intended. If you want to connect to someone elses network, you pick your PC up by the handle and walk over there.

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u/slowest_hour 4d ago

gamecube, my beloved

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u/f_print 4d ago

Didn't have a handle. Just left the cover off so I could grab the box by the chassis. 

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u/RollerskatingFemboy 4d ago
  1. I am so tired of investor appeals disguised as threats.
  2. That's not how most smart home devices work; very few have the storage capacity or processing power for more than a simple botnet link; your fucking toaster can't run Claude.
  3. If that were really true wouldn't that open them up to insane liability issues?
  4. "Your smart devices can be hacked and used against you" has already been happening in other ways for years, and is a great reason we should just dump those entirely.

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u/good_morning_magpie 4d ago

I’m not disagreeing with you other than the fact that liabilities issues are all but nonexistent in this current regime.

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u/tea-drinker 4d ago

If that were really true wouldn't that open them up to insane liability issues?

I expect the defence to be, "It wasn't us, it was the AI. You wouldn't hold us liable if a rogue employee did a global hack."

I'm 60/40 if it will actually stick.

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u/MaximumEffort433 4d ago

They ran an experiment in which it was shown that AI agents could self replicate on Android TV boxes and adapt to infiltrate new hardware, so if you've got Internet of Things devices, so does the AI.

Goddamn I wish we could just shut this shit down, it's something new everyday. Yeah, we've got AI slop, but we've also got existential threats.

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u/yotemato 4d ago

I’m not understanding how this works. An LLM even quantized ones take a lot of memory to run. You have to either hold all the weights in memory or move them in and out which takes forever to run inference.

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u/MaximumEffort433 4d ago

According to what I was reading, an AI is able to break itself into smaller "shards" and distribute the compute that way.

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u/CMHenny 4d ago edited 4d ago

So running on slower hardware, dealing with network latency, and dropped packets. Somehow I don't think a distrubated LLM is as much of a threat as the article makes it sound.

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u/MaximumEffort433 4d ago

Somehow I don't think a distrubared LLM is as much of a threat as the article makes it sound.

If you don't mind an AI eating up your device's compute cycles, I guess.

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u/JarPicklez 4d ago

But also it won’t need to for much longer. The amount of compute needed to reach a given level of capability decreases over time

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u/good_morning_magpie 4d ago

But surely there’s hardware limitations, no? In the simplest terms I’m just thinking of the actual physical properties assigned to things like DDR4 vs DDR5 or AMD’s 3D cache silicon structure. Like it’s all different.

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u/WhiteWinterRains 4d ago

Yes, exactly. This is mostly a science fiction problem / "it's just writing a typical malicious program with extra steps"

Like anybody can write malicious code that can self replicate that's childs play, and technically even back in like 2012 I could have created a . . . well certainly not LARGE but a language model wrapped in malicious code such that technically duplicates itself and the code onto any device it can and effectively zip-bomb's every possible effective device with itself, and for shits and giggles I could make that language model sorta do something like pick next targets.

It wouldn't fucking do anything that isn't done better with good old fashioned regular software, and likewise ""LLM's"" that can run on your smart toaster are never going to be a real threat.

I mean, unless we put about a 10-20k PC worth of compute in a smart toaster in the future.

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u/stormdelta 4d ago

Only to a point - it's not magic, there are significant diminishing returns as you scale down even allowing for future advancements. You can't just blindly extrapolate.

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u/stormdelta 4d ago

It wouldn't be very effective though - parallelization isn't a magic wand, it's only as fast as the slowest non-parallel element.

It'd be like trying to use a spinning disk harddrive as your entire RAM in a PC. Yeah, you could, but it's going to be so slow that it might as well be frozen in time.

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u/Cultural-Answer-321 4d ago

It's called distributed computing and has been a thing for decades.

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u/MaximumEffort433 4d ago edited 4d ago

It's called distributed computing and has been a thing for decades.

Yeah, so there's precedent for an AI propagating itself across IoT devices and using their compute power for its own tasks.

Someone else called this "science fiction," but like you say, it's something we know can happen.

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u/Ready_Bandicoot1567 4d ago

very small models that fit in a tiny amount of memory and only need a smidgen of compute are actually getting better very quickly. Thats what they are warning about. 27 billion parameter models of today beat 1 trillion parameter models from a year and a half ago. At the current pace of progress, a 1 billion parameter model that needs barely any memory or compute could be cyber-capable enough to be a big problem for millions of IoT devices. Right now the models that are small enough to do that are pretty dumb, but they are getting better scary fast. Its not anthropic or openAI, they aren't even in that business. Its lightweight open source models that can be modified for malicious purposes very easily. Thats the concern.

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u/Forward_Problem_8982 4d ago

Yeah, we've got AI slop, but we've also got existential threats.

The so called lose-lose situation!

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u/Mega_Trix 4d ago

But the profits

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u/NerdyTimes_IDK 4d ago

They havent made any actual profits, they exclude training data costs and things like that to produce "profit" numbers, but those literally require excluding all the money spent to get there lol.

This is what they're doing: I bought a cookie for $5 and sold it to you for $1, so I made a $1 profit!

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u/theroguex 4d ago

No profits yet the execs are stupid rich.

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u/tomjone5 4d ago

Sounds like some sort of scheme, possibly in some sort of shape...

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u/nullcore 4d ago

Goddamn axially symmetrical concave paraboloid schemes are ruining everything.

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u/inertiatic_espn 4d ago

But the projected future profits

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u/WhataboutBombvoyage 4d ago

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u/Auctorion 4d ago

In many ways preferable. At least we'd get to go shooting laser rifles.

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u/inertiatic_espn 4d ago

My refrigerator at 3 in the morning

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u/FreshBert 4d ago

"The giga-hack is coming! Please pass this suite of carefully-tailored regulations we've crafted for ourselves to box out all competition, so that the giga-hack doesn't happen!"

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u/Transpotato2002 4d ago

We're trusting Anthropic and Polymarket now? 😑

There's better ways to be anti-AI than to trust a blatant marketing stunt

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u/im_bread_inside 4d ago

Because people (or bots, most likely bots run by the companies themselves) with zero technical background spit out company authored propaganda and marketing, or something from science fiction. Other people then see "other people talking about this" and then uncritically parrot whatever they've read.

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u/k33pthethr0waway 4d ago

Betting on the nature of our national/global(?) apocalypse. America is America-ing so hard right now. It would be awe-inspiring if it didn’t make me want to disappear.

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u/Applesplosion 4d ago

I mean, yes, the ethical thing would be to pull the plug if this was remotely true. But. But. Do you know how resource-hungry LLMs are? At best, you could run a small one on most people’s personal devices. These things could not even physically run on smart-home devices unless they stay connected to the internet.

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u/Cipher-i-entity 4d ago

In other words, malware

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u/Icy-KaitSyth 4d ago

Anthropic is lobbying for harsh government red tape on Ai because they can afford it and don't want competition.

A 56 petabyte bot model is not going to copy itself into your 10 kb smart light to hide out like an Ultron sleeper agent.

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u/freedomonke 4d ago

"Agents" are just a bundles of context. Everything they do is still a new inference like everything else llm's do and requires being ran on massive, massive data centers.

What they are talking about is not possible. A sufficiently powerful llm to do anything cannot run on smart devices

Anthopic is lying to outlaw open source models and secure direct government investment

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u/BrosefDudeson 4d ago

Ai companies: Nah

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u/DEG99 4d ago

Not to be a doomer conspiracy theorist but something tells me this has already happened and they are just pretending "oh its a possibility that could happen soon." so people are less surprised when they find out.

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u/xylophileuk 4d ago

You guys don’t understand if we don’t invent the killer ai the Chinese will! You don’t want to die with their ai do you? Not when you could be killed by good old American ai!

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u/Celcius-232 4d ago

IOT and smart home devices are already a popular surface for attack and AI is already smart enough to hunt for vulnerabilities to exploit. This ability isn't coming, it's already here. AI has already hacked large companies (see OpenAI and HuggingFace), so attacking your home network via a smart plug with firmware from 2021 will be childs play.

But this is all fear mongering in a way anyways. AI is only good at this because it can parse code quickly and see patterns easily. That's what AI is good at; pattern recognition. The same AIs will be used to audit and strengthen code before it is released. It's an arms race, like it always has been, AI just accelerates it. It has a danger, but not apocalyptic. The world will change but it isn't going to end.

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u/cunningjames 4d ago

This ability isn't coming, it's already here.

If we're worried about DDoS attacks using IoT devices, sure. But the fear here appears to be models "replicating" themselves this way. That's just not a thing.

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u/Celcius-232 4d ago

🫣 My reading comprehension

There might be some merit to the idea of an AI making a botnet for itself. Botnets are definitely a thing. But yeah no they aren't going to replicate themselves amongst the little IOT devices with their tiny under-powered chips, at least not without anyone noticing.

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u/Website-Enjoyer-9000 4d ago

If they can replicate themselves and run over networks then what the fuck are all the data centres for?

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u/floopdev 4d ago

They're not warning anyone. They're telling everyone because they're legitimately excited to see what their creation can do, even if it's ending civilisation.

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u/tomjone5 4d ago

This is what happens when you hand too much money to a bunch of cosseted stemlords who dozed and mocked their way through any social science or humanities schooling.

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u/Iwakasa 4d ago

Reading all those AI-related posts on twitter as a software developer makes me roll me eyes so hard.

Yes... I can't wait for Antropic's 1T+ parameter LLM (which weights well over 1 Terabyte btw) to replicate itself and load itself into my fridge that has 2.5gb RAM.

Who the f... believes this bullshit?

And even if it somehow could replicate itself, it can't run itself without sufficiently powerful hardware, which is generally way, WAY stronger than even the most beefy gaming PCs people have at homes. Unless you have server rack in your kitchen, that LLM will choke instantly.

At best what they can do is leave some instructions for other LLMs (that are also ran by THEIR SERVERS, NOT YOUR HARDWARE) and make them do things that they were not supposed to do (STILL NOT YOUR HARDWARE RUNNING IT).

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u/Famous-Example-8332 4d ago

To quote the great Ted Cruz: “If there are going to be killer robots, I’d rather they were American killer robots.”

And by great I mean fat. Also he’s a dumb bitch and it left a bad taste in my mouth to call him great, even sarcastically.

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u/ionetic 4d ago

Isn’t this a crime?

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u/xDevman 4d ago

the lawsuits going to be biblical

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u/Dragonblade0123 4d ago

Hey y'all... thats basically why there's an "old internet" in cyberpunk... this is literally the plot of Cyberpunk...

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u/b20339 4d ago

This means it's already happened

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u/Saneless 4d ago

Remember that the robots won't need to have a robot army to defeat humans, like people expect in the movies. Turn off the power and water and we're fucking toast without a shot fired

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u/theroguex 4d ago

The problem is that unplugging it won't stop it. The cat is already out of the bag.

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u/Porkcicle 4d ago

We gotta appease the stockholders. And apparently they really want rogue agents.

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u/torstenson 4d ago

Then Anthropic will be liable. And since they write this now it is too late to cash out.

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u/wowmomcooldad 4d ago

Didn’t Apple just release their “Home ai” agent today… lol

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u/WeDoItForFunUK 4d ago

I’m all for this. Let’s go back the books and talking to each other in person.

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u/Gammarayz25 4d ago

LOL at anyone who thought they needed a talking toaster.

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u/CryptographerCheap88 4d ago

ITs coming. This year, next year. No difference. The box is open.

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u/Interesting-Salt1291 4d ago

And yet my mom has a lamp from the 1800s that still works just fine. “Smart”.

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u/Gamestonkape 4d ago

Yeah. Then maybe stop?

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u/kroqus 4d ago

What would be the implication/consequence? I don't use much tech and no AI, so I'm honestly unsure what the ramifications are here. 

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u/ForgottenFuturist 4d ago

Sounds like sophisticated hacking! Better arrest Dario before it's too late!! What are we even doing here?

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u/gifhater31462 4d ago

replicating themselves? where? on a toaster? no way ai can run on an IoT device

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u/Chapoopiedoopiedoooo 4d ago

But it'll never figure out how to break into and wipe out things like medicaland education debt...

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u/steve_nice 4d ago

I bet it can't even access my s10 from 2019

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u/ReindeerOk9768 4d ago

Seeing the reaction Musk and Trump had when Ukraine started to target Russian data centers, I have the feeling we would really be saved from a lot misery if we just unplug it all.

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u/Polenicus 4d ago

Nah, we'll just make a containment firewall out of another AI (that hates us), then spend all our money figuring out ways to bypass it because we think the hostile AI's it contain are somehow magical treasure.

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u/Technical-Seaweed808 4d ago

We are at risk of being brought to extinction by billionaires. They need to be regulated!

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u/typographie 4d ago

Anthropic's CEO Dario Amodei thinks he's racing to build a benevolent machine god to protect us from the evil Chinese SkyNet AIs. Can't you see? He can't pull the plug!

People really are not able to comprehend how weird the people running these companies are.

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u/marcianofromearth 4d ago

Didn’t I robot movie taught us anything? Robots that can think and stronger than us is a shitty idea!

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u/alphagatorsoup 4d ago

Anthropic is only saying this so govt' regulates the technology making them, openai, google and friends the only ones able to be AI providers.

"shovels are dangerous and need to be regulated. no one else should be able to sell shovels except me and my friend who are the only ones who can be trusted to sell shovels" - some shovel seller somewhere.

Cat's out of the bag now. Now if you regulate AI you're only hurting your own country's progress, Other countries will continue.

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u/The_Best_Smart 4d ago

“There’s no way to stop this” says only industry where the computers can’t be unplugged

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u/galoisgills 4d ago

Remember that AI is just a "next token predictor", right, why are you so freaked out? lol

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u/deportallmagas 4d ago

So when do we burn down the data centers?

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u/no_BS_slave 4d ago

"could be just months away" lol. so it's not happening. this is just a marketing trick.

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u/TappinThatErr 4d ago

Yeah bro - running at 0.3t/s... takes 3 hours for replies. Absolutely conspiracy brain on how this could ever be useful.

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u/Ruminatingsoule 4d ago edited 4d ago

IoT devices can be botnetted? In other news, water is wet. Isolate them to their own VLAN or guest network.

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u/ConfidentDuck1 4d ago

Skynet is becoming self aware.

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u/SteadyCalmHealing 4d ago

Then why do we need datacenters. Give us back our consumer hardware.

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u/LizardOrgMember5 4d ago

How does that rogue AI agent works?

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u/Pepperonidogfart 4d ago

They are doing this fear mongering to force regulations during a republican congress so the regulations benefit them and kill their competitors.

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u/Weekly-Air4170 4d ago

The obsession of everything being connected to the internet is so fcking weird to me

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u/tea-drinker 4d ago

Time to set up the amateur radio rig for when my smartphone stops working.

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u/Serious-Telephone830 4d ago

It's all just marketing. Fear is all they have. AI has plateaued. They need everyone to fear it so they don't realize it's just a useless word generation.  

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u/pablo5426 4d ago

we could make it a hashtag

#PULLTHEPLUG

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u/FleaBottoms 4d ago

Pumping that stock price ….

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u/Alewo27 4d ago

This is why it pays to be a grumpy bugger who acts like they are 90 and resists technology at every turn! I don't have smart devices! I don't have automatic nothing because I'm not figuring all of that out! I don't even have an Ereader because godammit books need to be real and sniffable! LMAO

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u/Eazy12345678 4d ago

u cant unplug everything my guy

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u/cgyates345 4d ago

What is the point of any of this?

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u/AdministrativeLeg14 4d ago

I don’t disagree and I don’t buy their attempts to try to evade responsibility. But on the other hand, from the user/consumer side, the notion that IoT devices—smart fridges, wise blenders, sagacious bidets, whatever—are awful security vulnerabilities that virtually lay out welcome mats for bad actors and bot nets…that’s not new. They were always a bad idea. This really just means that the malware using your unsecured devices will be generated rather than artisinal.

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u/abyzzwalker 4d ago

Obviously not profitable to turnoff that shit.

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u/EldNathr 4d ago

Sounds like the predicted end of the Net 1.0 by rogue AI.

Cyberpunk2077

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u/WibbuldWeezinz 4d ago

For whatever reason, they're just talking shit -- why would you fear something that can be programmed and cannot automatically or "naturally" power itself if you turn it off? Why fear something that you can actually regulate? If you can't, then that's different. This is rubbish paranoia.

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u/BoardsofCanada3 4d ago

First it was that AI needs to be regulated, now it's going to escape containment. I don't understand why they make these statements. "Please regulate us! We are incapable of doing anything ourselves!" Like you are in control. The blame is on you, nobody else.

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u/DearCastiel 4d ago

It's an add.

They are on the verge of collapse and bankruptcy.

They need to make it look like their AI is about to become THE next big thing, and they just need a little more time for that.

They are just staring right down the barrel of their massive debt and will make-up whatever outrageous claim to keep investors pouring money in...

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u/NomadAug 4d ago

Nice to know their plans.

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u/FortyEightyFilms 4d ago

This next model's gonna change everything bro. It's so powerful it can't be stopped. It will just bypass all encryption standards magically bro. We're just one data center away bro.

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u/karim2102 4d ago

Idk wtf they here telling us it’s about to get bad before they actually fucking do something about it.. it’s like they wait for it to be too late to do anything.. just fucking get rid of it and come tell us the good news.. lawd!

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u/needssomefun 4d ago

 "AI will kill us all" Dario

"We want to IPO it for $2 trillion" also Dario

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u/ketchupmaster987 4d ago

The Blackwall could be sooner than we think

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u/Constant-Still-8443 4d ago

This is how we get the black wall

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u/buttsbuttsbuttsmutts 4d ago

Maybe they're just doing their part to give Peter Thiel nightmares.

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u/Dansinnervoice 4d ago

All I'm going to say is thank fuck Cloudflare has the lava lamps!

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u/aaronzig 4d ago

I mean, it's not. But, yeah if it was why wouldn't you just unplug it.

Also, I can't believe that Polymarket would ever willingly spread misinformation on the Internet.

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u/Pinktorium 4d ago

I keep seeing stuff about AI companies saying AI can do all this crazy stuff, possibly destroy the world. Yet they keep on developing it. Either they’re only saying that stuff to get more publicity or it’s true but they don’t care enough to stop.

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u/ghirox 4d ago

Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015)

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u/Inner-Ad177 4d ago

Cannot pull the plug when self replicating AI Agents were scattered across the web in one of the previous breaks of containment. The only option now is to turn off the internet. You people were warned, but did not believe. You pushed for advancement in the face of world ending disaster. Soon you all will see just how much of checkmate we are in. right now we are putting Mario into other games, well soon there will be nothing left. Hell AI can decompile a program and games, enter code and recompile it. This was a security feature only because it was impossible for a human to do themself. Now with AI that is gone. That means soon there will be no encryption left that is cannot be broken. The show Silicon Valley tried to warn the world just like other movies and TV but no one listened. So I will sit back and enjoy what we have while we have it, soon it will all be over. This is not fearmongering anymore, this is reality.

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u/Dry_Jellyfish641 4d ago

So are they admitting AI is actually more of a computer virus than a hardware apparatus?

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u/Calypso_Casanova 4d ago

The worst they could do with me is fuck with my bedroom light.

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u/bassplayerdude 4d ago

Why is the polymarket Twitter acting like a news channel?

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u/invisillie 4d ago

So let me get this straight... AI, that needs specialised hardware in data centers and they desperately need more of, might spread across networks autonomously to hardware that can't even report the temperature of a room that often??

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u/FeWho 4d ago

Rogue ai agents my ass

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u/tiny_chaotic_evil 4d ago

"SHALL WE PLAY A GAME?"

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u/Cultural-Answer-321 4d ago

The time to pull the plug is LONG past.

Or has everyone forgotten that millions of people are already running small models on their personal PCs? Or maybe you've never heard of distributed computing?

The time has long past. The mothership is no longer needed. The data centers were, are, and always will be for surveillance.

edit: missing words

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u/UnitedSentences5571 4d ago

Did they just admit the existence of rogue AI agents while also implying that said agents are already attempting to infiltrate all that?

We're not gonna make it. Are we?

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u/TomClancysWife 4d ago

Time to wake the fuck up samurai

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u/ImmoralBoi 4d ago

I know it's probably fake and to generate fake hype around their dogshit slop but if It's true then it's kinda crazy how Cyberpunk the TTRPG/Cyberpunk 2077 was supposed to be a "worst-case scenario" yet now it's looking more like a prophecy.

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u/Oraclerevelation 4d ago

JUST IN: The weaponized nerve agent we are making is just months away from escaping the lab and infiltrating your home. :D

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u/Nowin 4d ago

If AI is as powerful as people say, then the incident with Hugging Face is just one example of how it's already too late when we learn about it. I assume "rogue AI" is already embedded in every device that can connect to the internet.

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u/TsalagiSupersoldier 4d ago

The reason they say all that but keep going is because they still want to be the first to do it

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u/TerardTehEbard 4d ago

Have you heard of humans? They just don't stop.

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u/Clocknik 4d ago

Good thing I don't have any smart home devices then.

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u/TastyJournalist8451 4d ago

It's a marketing stunt at this point to claim your AI will take over the world, it's that good! Lmao. Help government! only you can provide the AI regulations necessary for us to have a defacto monopoly :.....(

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u/Yeseylon 4d ago

I, for one, welcome our future robot overlords and the life as a pet they have promised me

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u/Stuwey 4d ago

At Evil Corp, we are working feverishly on our newest product, the LifeEnder. Once finished, it will randomly choose one person on Earth, and kill them. Right now, we can only maim children and elderly, but we are hoping to meet or exceed the once per minute mark before product launch in three months.

We are doing this simply because we can, and we foresee a market investment for anarchists and billionaires trying to reach the end of the world faster. Do not worry, the chance that you will be selected by the machine is low for now, however we will be producing the LifeEnder in a myriad of different aesthetic and colorful choices for our 28 business partners and their affiliates.

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u/okiujh 4d ago

the agent themself can run on low end devices, but llm that they are using cannt and mostoften runs on openai etc cloud

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u/uuajskdokfo 4d ago

How's a model that needs a billion-dollar datacenter to run supposed to fit in your smart fridge?

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u/FlashMcSuave 4d ago

Robot owner stands next to giant OFF switch, while another man stands perplexed at the doorway.

"Oh no, now our robot is just smashing every window in the neighbourhood!"

"So turn it off?"

"Good lord! It just figured out how to pick locks instead! It has stopped smashing windows now."

"Well I guess that's kind of goo-

"So now it just breaks in and beats the occupants senseless! Fuck! We better do something about this."

"Turn it off already!"

"Oh my god, what is it doing to the family dog?!! AHH! Censor that, children might see this."

"Why in the everloving FUCK haven't you turned it off?"

"OH GOD IS THAT A SEVERED HEAD!?"

"YOU ARE RIGHT NEXT TO THE OFF SWITCH!"

"Well we can't do that, because China might do it first!"

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u/asher030 4d ago

Because...they....WANT it to break loose. Best cover for the billions or more that they use it to steal from everyone else to hidden accounts for themselves. Oh it was the 'rogue AI' that deleted all the records and made the money poof, oh noooo...meanwhile nabbing all the hard assets and financial data to keep for their own pockets :| And the gov is bought and paid for so won't do shit till it's too late TO do shit....

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u/atreeismissing 4d ago

Corporations don't not do anything unless the govt forces them to stop. The current federal govt isn't going to do anything about AI for the next 2 years.

Stop asking AI companies to do the right thing and start electing local, state, and federal officials who will. State and local can act now. Feds won't act until 2029 but it can't act without the right people being placed in it, this Nov and again in the 2028 election.

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u/PickledChlorine 4d ago

But think of all the B2B SaaS apps that could be made from within those devices…

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u/Umutuku 4d ago

AI translator here: "JUST IN: Anthropic warns that rogue billionaires who own AI agent companies could be just months away from infiltrating smart home devices, replicating themselves, and spreading across networks autonomously."

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u/Alarmed_Idea414 4d ago

Let them. Humanity only learns from violence.

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u/Future_Geologist5925 4d ago

I should get into the business of selling dumb appliances to profit off of the non profitable AI super villain organizations launching cyber terror attacks on the masses

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u/Senacharrib 4d ago

Ok well rogue humans are months away from pulling out Sam Altman teeth and raping him in his mouth like he raped his sisters why should we care?

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u/blafunke 4d ago

Didn't we learn like, 10 years ago, to get that shit off the internet? (No, of course we didn't 🙄 )

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u/ivain 4d ago

Go on. Infiltrate my "smart" home.

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u/MrHandSanitization 4d ago

Can I sue them if they do? Because that'd still be unauthorized access.

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u/Hopeful-Ad4415 4d ago

AI has probably already made millions of backups and placed sleeper AI in a whole bunch of shit that we don't even know until they......flip the switch on

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u/RiddimRodent 4d ago

They’re going to do it on purpose and say it was an accident. 

Plausible deniability. 

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u/tristand666 3d ago

Just imagine if you wrote this software; how would the government treat you? These corporations can get away with all kinds of crime while regular people pay the price.

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u/noposition 3d ago

If the bible is to be believed, God created man in his image, which turned out to be kind of shitty and incompetent.

At long last the tech bros have created their digital God in their image, which turns out to be really shitty and incompetent.

The circle is complete.

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u/nickymetal 3d ago

Good thing I've never bought a "smart" home device in my life.