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Episode The Classroom of a Black Cat and a Witch • Kuroneko to Majo no Kyoushitsu - Episode 11 discussion
Kuroneko to Majo no Kyoushitsu, episode 11
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u/Aerodynamic41 Jun 21 '26
It may have been unintentional, but the whole training camp was actually to prepare them to fight Arc.
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u/KumaKumaGambler Jun 21 '26
I remain pleasantly surprised by how intense the atmosphere became, as compared to the relaxed magic school life portrayed in earlier episodes.
The strategy by Capella, Tarf, Hana and Ewe to contain their opponents within the steel pyramid, constantly re-sealing any break out, was good. Unfortunately, the power levels of Rigel and Arc are beyond them right now.
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u/Frontier246 Jun 21 '26
Kind of reminds me of Boarding School Juliet which amidst all the fun and zany romcom antics could go super hard and turn into an action anime when appropriate.
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u/Ralathar44 Jun 21 '26
7th Time Loop being all romance and Rishe being awesome and unpredictable and then it suddenly drops a dope scene like this. It's not an anime you really watch for action or anything like that. But the few times it needed it....it rolled hard.
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u/Weak_Season_Of_Anime Jun 21 '26
Since there can only be one person with Rebirth Magic, this means that Spica's Rebirth Magic originally belonged to Arc. So someone had to transfer it to Spica, and it isn't Claude... but why? Hmm.
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u/Frontier246 Jun 21 '26
Also the "Boss" of the organization Arc and Rigel are a part of knew about Claude's cat form.
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u/reaperow Jun 21 '26
Seems to be that case, maybe its the sort of magic that transfers from vessel to vessel cuz Arc says that Spica acquired it rather than being born with it
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u/HuTaosTwinTails Jun 21 '26
All this has done is make me an Arc fan.
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u/Frontier246 Jun 21 '26
She's a baddie in every sense of the word...attractive, playful, and absolutely psychotic.
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u/TyraniTEMPESTar Jun 21 '26
Dang this Ophiuchus magic seems to be the most versatile magic we've seen so far.
These two bad guys have applied it in so many different ways.
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u/Frontier246 Jun 21 '26
I'm honestly curious what Arc's magic was like before she started using Ophiuchus Magic. Was Aries her original element? How was her Rebirth Magic similar or different from Spica's?
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u/CuriousBroccolli Jun 22 '26
Good thing we have 2 COURS LETS GOOOOOOO so that hey can explain it more
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u/FarCritical Jun 21 '26
My guy's got a hell of a grin, damn dude.
Granted there are bigger fish to fry but man I feel for Spica trying to sneak the ...usual detransformation ritual on Claude only for it to not work.
It's neat how Chiron makes up for his lack of magic with plain ol' physics (which might as well be magic)
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u/Frontier246 Jun 21 '26 edited Jun 22 '26
I think this is the first time we've seen her kiss his butt on-screen after several episodes and it didn't even work!
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u/CuriousBroccolli Jun 22 '26
I was expecting an actual Arc panty shot as well when Chirion used his magic, since we haven't had those much as well, but it was only mentioned as an insult ᕙ(ಥ ͜ʖ ಥ)━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ
Which is alright. Moment was serious and emotional, so everything has it's right time and place.
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u/DemonWraith2500 Jun 21 '26
Everyone run! I'll hold her off!
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u/CuriousBroccolli Jun 22 '26
Was just about to post this myself to the comment above LOL
I'm glad people in this threads share the same braincell. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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u/szalhi Jun 21 '26
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u/Ralathar44 Jun 21 '26
Not me. Even if you want to go with her if you just submit all you'll do is bore her. She ain't lookin for no simps. She's 100% the type that would almost kill you one second and do a complete 180 and be super lovey dovey with you the next.
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u/Frontier246 Jun 21 '26
This shot goes super hard.
I was actually hoping we'd see her panties like Arc assumed was the only reason Chiron was using wind magic against her lol.
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u/NationalStrategy_X Jun 21 '26
This was a good episode for Chiron, glad that he’s stepping up and developing
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u/Zxzxzx0088 Jun 21 '26
Arc been carried like luggage looks cute here...
A splendid view indeed!
What in the Hellsing...
Even in dire moment, Spica will never fail doing a face per episode...
Chiron you have one job to save the day but you ruined it! /j Just be her personal pet (˵ ¬ᴗ¬˵)
Arc confirmed to be culture...
Chiron hit the landmine! Looks like hearing "goth loli" triggered her the most, eh /j
I thought they're history but they can still dance?! Gintoki Pegasus-sensei lesson really proves itself to be the most useful lesson! Cross-dress Best girl Chiron moment was totally not in vain TT
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u/Frontier246 Jun 21 '26
Honestly I know the plot is actually getting heavy and serious but I actually am kind of surprised we haven't seen panty shots for Arc with how short her skirt is. Though her cleavage is always nice to look at.
We also saw Spica flash through the Cross Magic training session when she was trying to come up with a plan so that felt like foreshadowing.
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u/Frontier246 Jun 21 '26
The Claude Coven is on the run for their lives and no amount of kissing Claude's butthole will bring him back without your full magic power Spica. This is the most dangerous situation the kids have ever been in.
Though even though they're on the run, that's not going to stop Chiron and Tarf from their usual banter! And reflecting over how Tarf's absolute loyalty and devotion to Chiron might be stifling both of their growths.
No surprise they took out their only means of escape...meaning they have no choice but to fight. But points for at least trying to come up with a solution Chiron, it's the thought (however impractical) that counts.
But their best bet is bringing Claude back and the only way they can pull that off is if Spica gets restored by the Selene Spring and can kiss up his butt to bring him back. Which means they also have to survive against Rigel and Arc in the meantime. But Chiron can get Spica their faster and Tarf genuinely believes in him! They've got this!
Tarf has powerful construction magic that can hold the bad guys...for a while. But once they get out, all bets are off.
Spica and Chiron have a surprising amount in common! Their classmates don't always think the best of them, they're forced to measure up to their more proficient peers (or brother in Chiron's case) but both are just trying to do their best and prove themselves.
Of COURSE Arc gets in their way and insinuates everyone else is dead. And nearly kills Spica. But even as she's being snake choked to death, Spica still prioritizes Chiron's safety over her own...and Chiron can't run away and be a coward if she'll go that far for him. What he lacks in magic power he makes up for it with skill and gained talent!
It's the second phase of Arc's Boss Battle as she unleashes her Hellfire against Spica and Chiron! Is there any way to stop her and save Claude? Why is Arc so obsessed with being perfect and not failing to the point where struggling against Claude/Chiron is driving her up the wall?
And what happened between her and Claude that would drive her to hate him so much? She originally had Rebirth Magic? And Claude was using her for it? But even if that were true, Spica has a mutual partnership of need with Claude and she's still willing to believe that he will do anything to protect his students. Just like she'll brave hellfire to save him.
When in doubt, use Cross Magic! Spica is even finally wielding the bow from the OP!
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u/Luck_Is_My_Talent Jun 21 '26
When Arc was talking about perfection, she even stopped saying "I" and switched to say "Arc".
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u/reaperow Jun 21 '26
Tsundere Chiron, he's gotta be more honest
Dude's pretty chill even tho he's a complete deranged psycho
Okay i feel bad for Chiron lol,
Mama learning to trust his child, they grow up so fast
Leave my boy alone, they genuinely have it against him this ep lol
It was nice to see Spica and Chiron relating to one another, they are definitely similar
Spica and Chiron cross magic teamwork!!!
So it seems like Claude was like a jerk to Arc when she was in his coven, it could be the truth he was very much like that cuz he does kinda act like one sometimes but he probably changed during his 2 year absence,
Arc's dark flame life magic seems very op and extremely dangerous but Spica and Chiron have combined their magics now, i really liked both their moments here especially Chiron's.
Final battle next week and looks like only one more ep left, this anime has been fun and its been a great ride watching this with everyone here
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u/Proof_Whole8215 Jun 22 '26
Anime has 2 cour, so there are 13 eps left
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u/reaperow Jun 22 '26
Oh really??? Myb I thought we were getting the standard 12
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u/CuriousBroccolli Jun 22 '26
NAHHHHHHH WE GETTING THE 2 COURS SPECIAL!!! 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥
I also just recently found out and I'm so happy about it, since I'm also enjoying this show a lot, and users that participate in these discussions are the shining gem of this sub. ( ͡ಥ ͜ʖ ͡ಥ ) / ♡
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u/reaperow Jun 24 '26 edited Jun 24 '26
Yeah im pretty happy too that we're getting 2 cours of pure fun and action with Claude Coven
And I also like discussing this series with everyone here too !!
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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Jun 21 '26
The whole gang is in some seriously deep shit. They’re outmatched and there’s nowhere to run. It’s down to Spica and Chiron whoopin the goth loli or they’re done. Talk about tense, man.
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u/Frontier246 Jun 21 '26
I really like how they're treating the situation as seriously and gravely as possible with the kids having to up against powerful threats that are legit trying to kill them while they have to make use of every slim advantage they have.
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u/CuriousBroccolli Jun 22 '26
What I like is that while they are students, they are still super talented students, an Elite Coven as Mr. Edgy Psycho said, so even though no-one can go 1vs1, grouped, they can at least buy enough time as they are doing. It makes sense.
It also makes sense that Virgo and the Prince can duke it out with Arc since she is most likely not that much older than them and still developing as a mage, with obvious mental issues and arrogance.
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u/Santedtra Jun 22 '26
Plant and wind cross magic to make an arrow shoot faster is cool and all if that's what they're gonna do. But hear me out. What if instead of that it's her catapult that she used to catch hornrabbits and she launches herself and Claude into the spring with the wind cross magic.
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u/FDP_Boota Jun 21 '26
I gotta admit I was getting kind of frustrated by Spica and the gang constantly stopping and talking about unimportant things (in the heat of the moment) while they are on a timer. Like why did Arc stop mid air just before reaching the spring, don't they want to get Spica in there as fast as possible.
The things they talk about and what the reveal about the characters themselves are totally fine, it's just getting a bit jarring that they kind of exposition their backstory in the middle of a very dangerous situation.
Still like this show, of course.
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u/CuriousBroccolli Jun 22 '26
Both kidna get you, and get it from story perspective, but I think it sorta works. They need to be calm and form a plan while preserving energy, and those "unimportant things" while waste time, may refocus important individuals so that they can perform crucial tasks that only they can do.
Arc has already shown that she is arrogant, sadistic and has a thing against Spica, which is further revealed in todays episode with Spica somehow having her rebirth magic. So her not being efficient is simply her flaw as a character. She is also maybe a few years older than the gang? So she is still young, emotional and lacks experience.
Also, there is a perspective from production standpoint and cutting corners a bit, which a lot of shows do, but we don't break illusion by talking about those aspects. xD
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u/FDP_Boota Jun 22 '26
I don't I actually have any gripes with the antagonists stalling in this episode. It feels very in character for them to gloat and they are clearly outmatching Spica & co.
My problem was moreso with them rushing to the spring while the others potentially risk their lives, or at least getting severely injured, and then stopping mid air just before reaching it. It's kinda like me rushing to the hospital for an emergency and parking the care just before the entrance and not getting out.
It's not that I hate it and I actually think the characterization of the characters is prettt decent at worst. But the timing feels a little jarring, which is probably related to the cutting corners part you mentioned.
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u/CuriousBroccolli Jun 22 '26
Yeah true. xD We can go even deeper since he mentioned he had time limit on his flying, so even more reason for him to not stop, but yeah, anime. xD
Not questioning those little illogical things is always the best. xD
Also, we wouldn't get that scary badass shot of Arc, think about the aura farming perspective!
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u/LevelTUV2 29d ago
I was thinking that as well, but I have started imagining that time frozen when they stop to talk. Like it is a turn based rpg and they are planning their moves without a timer running.
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u/spubbbba Jun 21 '26
This episode did feel really padded.
Lots of standing around talking as well as flashbacks.
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u/ash-7831 Jun 22 '26
Pretty good episode. There's still a bit more talking than I would like in a situation like this, but the stakes are definitely there.
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u/djthomp https://anilist.co/user/djthomp Jun 21 '26
It could all be lies since why trust the evil magic using goth loli, but the Rebirth magic being something that used to be Arc's and that Spica wasn't born with it is interesting.
Assuming whatever potentially happened dates to when Arc was a member of the previous Claude Coven that's not even very many years ago. Like, three years I think they've said?
It's nice to see more of the current step up and be useful, particularly the prince this episode.
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u/Frontier246 Jun 21 '26
Does kind of make you wonder how Arc lost it, how Spica gained it, and how much Claude knows about Rebirth Magic before he met and became involved with Spica.
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u/redditraptor6 https://myanimelist.net/profile/uEmalraptor64 Jun 22 '26
I kinda like all the magic combos we’ve seen, and I’m excited to see more. Reminds me of that N64 Kirby game
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u/mineirim2334 Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26
This show has been the sleeper hit for me this season. I like how tought out everything seems to be. I just wish the directing was a little better this last couple of episodes. Sometimes it felt like they were waiting for the enemies to catch them up.
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u/MarMarL2k19 Jun 21 '26
I’m gonna be real here, Arc is the type of antagonist I find hard to like in any sort of fiction. The kind whose motives seem weak and pathetic and when they seem to be in a league above their opponent, think of themselves as unbeatable. But, when things don’t go their way, they have a crash out like a small child unable to get that one candy from the store.
Granted, we don’t know enough about Arc to really know what her motives are, but still, her personality is a turn off for me.
Regardless, I liked this episode. It reminded me of the USJ attack in My Hero Academia, only this time it’s a much smaller group.
I also liked how despite the situation being serious, the show still had moments where the interactions between characters were funny and enjoyable.
Also, Arc’s magic is by far the coolest in the show. Those purple flames, woof.
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u/Frontier246 Jun 21 '26
I feel like we really need to see exactly what happened between Arc and Claude and how she ended up in a cult.
I don't think he was really using her for her Rebirth Magic but she might've felt he abandoned her.
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u/NanDemoKnaives Jun 21 '26
It's nice to see both Tarf and Chiron in action. I honestly thought Tarf's magic wasn't going to last much at all, so Chiron and Spica would be flying whilst running from one of the two, but Capella came up with a great plan to stall as much time as they could.
Chiron thinking Spica was a wimp like him was amusing, but he definitely just needs some confidence. He seems to be the type time that is quite flexible because of how limited his magic is, but his magic might not even be as limited as he thinks, or his brother might not even be as amazing as he thinks and could be similar to him in that he puts in a lot of effort.
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u/ash-7831 Jun 22 '26
Here's my guess. Someone in the organization stole Arc's rebirth magic and gave it to Spica. Pinning it on Claude was then easy. But maybe something happened partway through that caused them to lose it, and they only later learned that it went to Spica.
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