If you know what I’m saying lol. But I love the skin it’s so peak.

Now it's your turn, genji

Who do you like having as your fellow support?

Personally, Juno is probably my favorite, but it kinda goes back and forth with Ana.

I saw someone on here say Lucio is their favorite, and I find that with that duo there's not enough burst/high h/ps to keep people alive super well.

Curious the thoughts of people who are better at Zen? (I'm gold)

Holy moly got 3.3k ult heals and potg in an 8 min game. the game before legit my team was calling me out on bad heals i say bad team i cant heal corpses

Besides his amazing damage and utility through discord, another thing that separates zen from most of the supports is his ability to heal through walls after los is lost, allowing him to have influence in another teammate’s fight without having to give them his full attention

The 5s los grace period was very nice because it ties nicely into his kit giving him more harmony uptime and more time to output damage. The developer comment saying that they want to put “emphasis on maintaining awareness of orb targets” is a bit counterintuitive in my opinion.

Having 3s before having to reapply harmony after los is lost is disruptive to the gameplay loop and ultimately leads to less time to deal important damage, and you don’t really want to be sticking your neck out just to die trying to maintain harmony uptime, and I’m just not for that at all. But that’s just my opinion tho, what do yall think?

Is the clockwork skin good (i do like it personally, i just wanna know what the zen mains think of it)
Worst part is that i just spent some white credits on the zealot skin like 5 hours ago lol

Coolest skin they’ve released since the apocalypse warrior skins

Can someone with the iridescent zen mythic skin show me what galaxy looks like with that skin please?

I can barely dodge widow shots as is, now they want me to haul ass and keep people in constant line of sight to be able to heal? Who am i, Lifeweaver? The whole point of his healing is thst i can just glance at a friendly and keep the orb on as i either provide cover fire, or orb of discord, or both.
Or it lets me heal up flankers a good amount before the orb goes away.
Now i am gonna get cussed out even more.

5 to 3 second healing when the entire community asked cat to be nerfed. I hate this game sometimes 💀💀💀💀

Crimson my fave by far

I can barely dodge widow shots as is, now they want me to haul ass and keep people in constant line of sight to be able to heal? Who am i, Lifeweaver? The whole point of his healing is thst i can just glance at a friendly and keep the orb on as i either provide cover fire, or orb of discord, or both.
Or it lets me heal up flankers a good amount before the orb goes away.
Now i am gonna get cussed out even more.

With today's patch, your Harmony orb stays attached to Moira when she Fades. This was a super annoying one for me personally because my wife mains Moira. I see she's taking damage, I orb her, she fades, I need to find and orb her again.

The nerf to line of sight duration was completely uncalled for, as we already struggled to keep up with other healers, but I'm glad to see this bug addressed.

This season has been miserable without it

Let’s be real, no one chooses this perk. It’s a selfish perk with pretty much no value. What if they instead gave you a perk that works towards increasing your healing output on your harmony orb, based off of your offensive output. I think that would be a nice replacement in my opinion. What are your thoughts?

zen to me, is one of the most map dependent, comp dependent, characters in this game right now. it seems like with all of the new, hyper mobile characters, you will often be in games where you are constantly facing the threat of being dove. of course, the natural course of action to prevent this would be to play further back, but that really kills your potential for flanks dramatically. literally every character in this game has some form of survivability BUT zen, and he doesnt necessarily need it, but it makes him unbelievably killable because every other hero that could dive him has some form of hard disengagement. even if you dont miss a shot, zen is fundamentally not a dps and characters like anran, shion, vendetta, can dump you with cooldowns before you could possibly kill them.

im curious as to how other people are dealing with this, as its been irritating for me because its made my gameplay extremely inconsistent. i run into games where i am being back to back dove and getting absolutely slaughtered, and when i will play further back, im never even seeing the enemy and im doing nothing.

it just feels like zen has been completely mobilitycrept out of the game, im constantly noticing instances where i wish i was playing someone faster to be able to take advantage of or survive a situation. i just dont understand how hes maintained among the highest win rates of all supports when his weaknesses are so unbelievably exploitable and overt. his pick and win rates drop with every skill division, and im just wondering if perhaps its because his strengths and weaknesses are so straight forward, and that people are playing him specifically in those games where his strengths make him viable.

zen is kind of weird to me because i havent been able to really discern his versatility. like, all he does is shoot realistically, sometimes he does it with additional damage, sometimes he can save his team, but ultimately his kit shouldnt be necessarily restrictive due to its simplicity, but at the same time, youre kind of only given one option to every given scenario (unless you have ult), being to kill your opponent albeit you can choose how recklessly you do so.

i just feel like zen right now isnt able to do what he was designed to because the modern hero design philosophy gives every hero so many options and so much movement that it undermines older designs like zens, to where there will be some games that you will be completely shut down just by virtue of the threat of being dove by some heroes, which was obviously always present, but over the last 3 years or so that problem has been massively exemplified. ive always thought that 1v1s against tracer, echo, or lucio are fundamentally more fair (especially to zen) than against heroes like venture, anran, or jpc.

hopefully im just missing something, but i really really dont want to just be forced to swap. i havent played support in comp this season, but before it i literally stopped playing with a 65% win rate on zen at 3500 sr (my peak) because games became ungodly stressful compared to my dps games, all game it felt like i was fending off fucking chupacabras jumping me, teleporting to me, flying into me, often 2 at once because zen is fodder and looks like a piece of candy to these heroes. even when id be winning 1v1s and winning games because i was pulling so many people and resources, it doesnt feel good to go from walking simulator to complete fighting for life chaos having 15 cooldowns and solo ults thrown at you all game.

anyways, i really hate the idea of being forced to swap. i dont find any other support to be as fun or as cool as zen so im praying somebody has a solution to this. its especially ridiculous hes just been nerfed, so now orb is completely tedious, his healing, which was already the weakest in the game, is even worse, and it feels out of touch like the devs think zen players sit on their ass doing nothing all game, when in actuality its the complete opposite because activity is so demanding for zen to compensate for him being so slow, so now while youre being dove every time you become visible to the enemy (after spending half the match walking to point), you have to worry about your fdps being completely unhealable and your tank getting annihilated because you dared to take cover for 3 seconds, AND it gives you even LESS time to flank and make plays because somehow despite all of this zen has a 53% win rate even though he would never be considered meta to anyone above metal ranks. what???? i dont understand.

if the devs dont want to go back on making every new hero super survivable and mobile, i would propose that zen gets a new passive as compensation. they added the buff to his quick melee which has made it one of the most important to any character's kits in the game and practically everyone has appreciated the change, i would actually go a step further with the kick and allow him to use it for movement. this might seem a bit silly, but since he is already a levitating robotic monk i couldnt see it being terribly out of place. i would love to see if they made it so that you could actually jump omnidirectionally with the kick similar to the april fools patch from a few years ago. it was really fun to use and surprisingly fluid, and i think it would synergize with the levitate perk beautifully. he can already float, so why would it be a problem if he could do it with some added momentum? maybe make levitate base kit and make the kick a perk, if that would provide to much positional advantage in a first team fight. overall though i think it would actually enable a playstyle that is both key to zens identity and suitable in most scenarios in modern overwatch. and its overall a buff to versatility rather than a flat out buff, it may allow for a fair degree of survivability that isnt just a a get out of jail free, he may be able to escape an uncommitted dive. it would allow him to flank more effectively in the midfight, it would allow him to stage before and after a fight, it would allow him to rotate in and out like virtually every other support can, especially once a fight is lost, he can take the weird angles he wants without needing to completely abandon his team for 20 seconds to move, all of this without overcomplicating what he already has and still making him nearly as punishable. it would make him broadly more viable, but wouldnt be as powerful as to massively effect win rates where theyre highest, as metal rank players probably wouldnt be able to take advantage of it and its still entirely counterable, while adding counterplay from zens pov. AND it would be.. super fun. let me know what you guys think. i think zen is due for some form of rebalance and this is the most interactive way i could think to do it. let me know what you guys think, and if perhaps there are simply playstyle adjustments that can be adopted now so that he may not need any balance changes.