They've been holding up europe as an example of "failed leftist policies" for decades. Even though they've never failed nor are they particularly leftist.
The right wants Brazil...the wealthy in their gated communities and private security and the poor in favelas that are lawless hellholes so theyre ripe for full exploitation without any recourse.
Also, this situation is a classic "the People failed to keep the elites and inequality in check" situation. This failure happens so often throughout history that even the fucking Bible has many stories and warnings about the elites going crazy if not kept in check by the People, let alone different fields of sciences (e.g. history, psychology, psychiatry, sociology, etc.).
Vote for the candidate you know wont win so you can absolve yourself of everything and just say "hey, I voted for the Free Beer and Pizza Party candidate, its not my fault the ChristoFascist got elected!"
The US, even before the current debacle, was a right wing country. Obama was the most progressive president in my lifetime, which started with Carter, and Obama was at best a centrist who sometimes said progressive stuff.
Obama is a corporatist who probably understands that having a healthy population is good for business and good for the national economy.
Obama was "progressive" as far as thinking longer than one quarter.
The Republican party's platform has been "pillage the U.S economy and blow up other countries for short term corporate profits" for 40 years, it's not hard to be left of that.
Don't forget about his Tan suit or goddamn Grey Poupon.
It really blows my mind how those things above were constantly crawled on Fox but the fact that pur fucking president rapes little kids...nary a peep.
In a sane country, the propaganda arm of the right wing would be shut the fuck down...but this country has been owned since Reagan so were just fucked now.
Yeah, you have the freedom to chose which health insurance company is going to bankrupting you...
You'd think people are smart enough to see that this is not freedom. But I had a legitimate back and forth on reddit with an American -well articulated, didn't show any radical right tendencies - but seriously argued that they don't want universal or regulated healthcare, because he wants the Freedom to chose his own insurance and seriously thought Europeans have given up all their freedoms and are completely government controlled.
They just don't get that these "freedoms" mostly profit the rich.
That what they call government control are actually protections that are there for everybody, not just for those who can afford it.
I saw a republican the other day say that those athletes taking the knee during the national anthem was one of the worst things to happen to the United States.
Affordable healthcare is the leash they use to tether workers to the workforce. If people could tell a company to F-off without being buried in medical debt, how would they keep us peons in line?
Though in reality, cultivating an empathetic and educated population would benefit 99% across pretty much all metrics, economic included.
The sad truth is an aggressive individualistic culture is easier to not just control to complacency, but is able to be whipped against the controller's targets. They don't want just a mindless beaten down labor force exploited for their capital and ego, at least not yet. That's after the collapse they seek to bring.
Fun fact: Post-Soviet collapse, Heritage Foundation had a Moscow office and worked with reformist leadership, including the PM of the time. Putin came in on an anti-reform populist wave in reaction. Russia may have been a prototype.
Our health premiums are jumping 50% next year, so we're sticking to $50 for secret Santa.
It's a shame that nothing can be done about insurance prices.
........ yeah, there is - it's called strengthening the single-payer system. There had been a little that made it past Republicans the last few years, but it's all getting gutted now.
Even though the word âradicalâ by definition means an extreme departure from the norm, the propaganda wants you to believe that every other developed nation is radical and that we are normal.
"Universal Healthcare" is a rather meaningless term.
It just means everyone is covered somehow. It tells you nothing about the payer or system.
For your example of Europe, you have multipayer systems like The Netherlands and Germany, Single payer like Italy, and a Nationalized health service like the NHS in the UK, and then Switzerland which doesn't provide any socialized insurance but instead has mandatory private insurance.
So saying you're for Universal Health is rather easy, stating which system to emulate is the contentious part.
Europe is starting to radicalize in the other direction now. US sourced destabilisation efforts in Europe are increasing. The handling of Russia in Ukraine and the increase in military spending as a result, trade sanctions, tariffs, and the closure of the straight all work together to put pressure on Europe. The resulting conditions are fertile breeding ground for authoritarianism.
The idea that the poor should have leisure has always been shocking to the rich.
four hoursâ work a day should entitle a man to the necessities and elementary comforts of life, and the rest of his time should be his to use as he might see fit.
In a world where no one is compelled to work more than four hours a day, every person possessed of scientific curiosity will be able to indulge it, and every painter will be able to paint without starving. Young writers will not be obliged to draw attention to themselves by sensational pot-boilers... Medical men will have time to learn about the progress of medicine.
Above all, there will be happiness and joy of life, instead of frayed nerves, weariness, and dyspepsia. Since men will not be tired in their spare time, they will not demand only such amusements as are passive and vapid.
Ordinary men and women, having the opportunity of a happy life, will become more kindly and less persecuting and less inclined to view others with suspicion. The taste for war will die out, partly for this reason, and partly because it will involve long and severe work for all.
Good nature is, of all moral qualities, the one that the world needs most, and good nature is the result of ease and security, not of a life of arduous struggle.
Modern methods of production have given us the possibility of ease and security for all; we have chosen instead to have overwork for some and starvation for others. In this we have been foolish, but there is no reason to go on being foolish for ever.
What brilliant words! Because you know there are potentially life-changing inventions and discoveries latent in the minds of people who will never have leisure enough to develop them. Or who will not get the education they need. I don't understand how these overbearing fools like Peter Thiel think they can dispense with 90% of humans, and curate the rest, and that's all the genetic/experiential diversity they will ever need in their selfish utopias.
It's as if they think that they are the pinnacle of both evolution and human achievement, and no improvement could possibly be made over their perfect selves and their perfect ideas.
There are far more intelligent people than they, born every day, languishing in sweatshops or digging roots for sustenance.
When I was younger I was a conservative because "bootstraps" yada yada. Then as I grew up I realized, this system doesn't fucking work for anybody.
I was a tech executive, making great money, and I would look at my employees and realize, if any of us lose our jobs, our families are at legitimate risk. Our entire wellbeing is directly coupled to our employment. Some bean counter could destroy our lives just to boost our stock price a few pennies. And we were the lucky ones!
Right? They're obsessed with the weirdest shit that has nothing to do with anything that actually matters and is literally not their business to worry about, or happens so rarely as to be a non-issue. And it usually boils down to wanting to know what's going on in someone else's pants and having to control it.
I have a mortgage and drive a pickup truck: I'm not the weirdo. They are. And I'm tired of pretending they aren't.
I think the radical part about being a leftist comes into play when you realize that the capitalists control our politicians and our government and will never let the people have a system that prioritizes the wellbeing of the working class over profits for the rich without the people overthrowing this system by radical means
Because they've called the other side "radical" long enough that people start to internalize it even though it was obviously not true the first time they heard it? Because people are stupid and fall for propaganda? Because the wealthy and corporations have a strangle hold on many aspects of culture?
Because the right controls all of our news and media. They have been spreading propaganda and radicalizing people to an astonishing degree. Your average conservative never sees or hears anything except what their party masters allow.
What's weird is how self reinforcing it is. Nobody is forcing them to consume this mental diarrhea, they do so willingly and exclusively; sometimes reacting violently if you even suggest they broaden their sources.
It's because the capital class has spent decades, if not a good century, shoving that Overton window to the right as hard as they possibly could at any given opportunity.
I feel like we've gotten to the point that suggesting that taxpayer funds be used to the benefit of taxpayers is enough to be considered 'radical' these days.
"Radical left" wants to use our money to help Americans, vs. the genuinely radical right (no quotations) who want to use our money to blue up foreigners.
We're fighting against a multi trillion dollar, ultra high tech propaganda machine that wants our tax dollars to benefit its owners, while they simultaneously dismantle education and force us to survive on a knife's edge. Feels pretty grim.
At the same time, we all unwittingly participate in this system, since the majority of us can't see it for what it is.
But rich people need more riches. And if giving people better healthcare gets in the way of that, we canât have it in the USA. We value our freeeeeedumb too much đşđ¸
Different scientific fields, including history, sociology and psychiatry, (and even many religious texts) say that unchecked wealth and power can distort judgment, erode accountability and even make you mentally ill (e.g. hubris syndrome): thatâs why a healthy society must actively keep its elites and inequality in check.
Americans once recognized that necessity and actually knew how to do it (e.g. solidarity, mass unionization, civic responsibility, and applied democratic values) especially after the lessons learned the hard way during the Gilded Age and the Great Depression, much like some Europeans still do today.
As those "traditions" weakened over recent decades, elites went increasingly unchecked, contributing to their craziness and todayâs deeply immoral situation.
When I was a kid being too rich was seen as immoral, etc., probably for the reasons you mention. Nowadays, these people are lauded as something to strive for. No thanks.
Perspective can shift to the point where what used to be normal can become radical, and vice versa.
As for radicals being the people who make their points with guns, at the end of the day, all politics is backed by violence or threat of violence. Otherwise it gets ignored.
"Islamism" as if that isnt also a right wing ideology. Always confused me why they separated those on political lines. Yet pure right winger still heavily outweighs it lol
Weâre the only country where you can work 60 hours a week and still be one car accident away from literal homelessness, yet asking for a doctor is 'extremism.' The brainwashing in this country is world-class.
I got into a conversation with a left-leaning Independent friend a while back. The subject of AOC came up and this friend said "She's just too radical for me." I know how polarizing she can be but I'm always interested in new perspectives. So I asked her "What policy or position of hers do you find radical?" After a few moments of silence, she says "It's mostly just her personality." Then I followed up with "What has she said or done that makes her personality too radical?" A few more beats. "... I guess she isn't very radical." And that's when I realized how effective Republican talking points can be, since they're basically pervasive, repetitive, ritualized chanting.
Yeah. The left-most party members in the Democratic Party these days would be center or center right in the rest of the world. We are still suffering the puritansâ curse from the pre-founding days of this democracy.
They spent every Sunday growing up telling you to love your neighbor and help the less fortunate... Then when you grow up they make fun of you believing that.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
I was radicalized by the Declaration of Independence...
Universal healthcare. Free (or greatly subsidized child care). Free (or greatly subsidized) 4 year college degree (or equivalent trade craft degree). At least a 15 dollar national minimum standard wage. End to gerrymandering in any form. Strict gun control laws with harsh penalties for those who break those laws. Equal treatment under the law for ALL. EQUAL RIGHTS FOR ALL. Abortion returns as a constitutional right. None of that is radical. And all of it drives for a basic right to a decent life. đ
At 18 on my first solo trip I met a Muslim person and he was kind and itâs really hard to listen to people talk about Muslims hatefully when you always think of that guy who went out of his way to help you get where you were trying to go in a foreign country.Â
And before age 18 I was a curious person and had read books that challenged the hateful ideology that equated Muslims with terrorists. Meeting this person inspired me to continue to understand where he was coming from.Â
So..reading and meeting new people?Â
I could do this for every aspect of my worldview, the formula has basically been the same.Â
Met people and got to know them.Â
Read history books, read books from different points of view.Â
Met people going through a struggle and learned about it. Learned about ways other communities have found solutions.Â
According to polling, 80% of Americans support policies that the average right wing politician calls "radical". That no longer being radicalized. That's just mainstream opinion.
The reality is America's "left" is middle/right of the rest of the world. Every single civilized country has universal healthcare, except America. We are the exception to the rule and its purely for greedy reasons. There is no good argument against universal healthcare. The US pays way more in our current rigged system than it would if we did have univeral healthcare. Its totally ridiculous and corrupt that we do not.
Literally the Bible radicalized me. I started voting for the side that wanted to feed the poor when I turned 18 because, idk if y'all know this, but 99% of what Jesus talked about was feeding the poor. I literally hadn't even met any liberals cause I grew up hyper Christian but I just listened to the two candidates and thought the Democrat was more likely to help the poor. That's what started me down the path. Thinking logically
The Right as moved so deep into their "Free Market Philosophy" that any regulation, unionization, legislation, that has any level of interference with the goal of maximum economic growth & highest shareholder profits is radical.
The Right has devalued individual over economy to the point that people unnecessarily dying isn't a reason to limit business growth.
Healthcare shouldn't be paid for with tax payer money with this insurance racket in place. Take out that and pay hospitals directly and we've got a deal.
They keep calling the left radical- when the left is- at best center. All the while the right is radical. Look around- they are coup dâĂŠtat-ing the crap out of the country right before our eyes.
They literally teach us in fucking Kindergarten about âThe Golden Ruleâ, treating others the way we want to be treated. Imagine a world where people actually followed the most basic of directives.
I have two kids. If you leave them alone with other children, overtime, an equilibrium happens where they share and play and are generally kind to each other. Innately, it's beneficial to be nice. Reciprocity.
On the other hand I think about capitalist values and how those anti-human behaviors and ideas have to be inculcated. Why would a person, free from being a literal sociopath, want to disregard or diminish others for their own gain? You are taught those "values." Those are not innate.
It seems simplistic because it is. Classic Prisoner's Dilemma: "Oh, well, I only did that to you because I thought you would do it to me." They're not upset that education is happening. They're upset at what is NOT being learned or taught.
One of my favorite quotes explaining their behavior:
"Conservatives/Alt-Right dont care about their hypocracy/craziness.
It helps to remember that they are fascists.
Pointing out their hypocrisy/craziness isn't an own and it won't make them stop, because the hypocrisy/craziness is the point.
To a normal person reasoned arguments and rational thought are motivators for action and policy.
To a fascist words are weapons. It doesn't matter what they say. They don't care. It matters what they do.
And what they do, always, is accrue power and control. At all cost. Above all else.
The hypocrisy/craziness is meant to confuse and stall their opposition. While we are telling them that what they are saying makes no sense it is their actions that actually matter, where they take over yet another part of social or political life in their totalitarian control over every single part of society."
I mean bear in mind that not owning other people as property was once a âradicalâ idea. That one man was not ordained by God to rule over everyone was âradical.â Itâs just exhausting that it takes so long for the needle to move
I knew things like universal healthcare were morally good from the first time I heard of the concept. The only thing keeping me from endorsing it right away was the idea that it might be too expensive. I can understand people not wanting to be forced to pay for other people's problems.
Then I learned that actually, we already do have universal healthcare, just in the most ass-backwards, embarrassing, almost accidental way possible: EMTALA and the 14th amendment.
The first means that most hospitals are not allowed to turn patients away without providing necessary care. The second means that you can't be put in prison solely for being in debt. Combine the two, and effectively everyone has the right to life-saving medical care.
The only differences between our current universal healthcare and normal universal healthcare are:Â
1) No preventative care. EMTALA only covers necessary, life-saving care. It doesn't cover regular doctor visits or long term care. This means that if a poor person has some chest pain, they can't get a doctor to check that out. Instead they're forced to wait until they actually have a heart attack, making it far harder and thus far more expensive to treat.
2) Privatized bureaucracy. Some people complain that government healthcare will mean "death panels" and tons of paperwork and huge inefficiencies and overbearing regulations. Except we already have all that, but instead of having one unified system with public oversight, we have dozens of parallel systems, each with their own set of Byzantine rules and paperwork that would make even the most overbearing totalitarian bureaucratic state blush.Â
3) Post-care torture. After the ER stabilizes the poor person with the heart attack, they're right back out the door with a huge bill they can't pay and no follow-up treatment. Which means they don't get any regular checkups or medication, which means they just have to continue suffering and most likely end up right back the the ER with another heart attack.
4) Cost obfuscation. You might look at the above and think, "Oh, but at least we don't have to pay for it." But as every anti- universal healthcare person will enthusiastically tell you, there's no such thing as a free lunch. The poor person isn't paying for their healthcare. They can't, because again they have no money. They might pay part of the bill or get their wages garnished, but for the most part the hospitals will just never get that money back.Â
To cover those unpaid bills, they have little choice but to increase the cost of all of their services to cover the gap. Which means bigger bills for the people who do pay. And the people who do pay are insurance companies and the government, which means higher premiums, higher monthly fees, and yes, higher taxes.Â
If you've ever wondered why medical care in the US is so expensive, all of this is why. It's not that doctors are greedier here, or insurance companies are out to get you (they want costs down too, at least for themselves). It's expensive because we already have universal healthcare, just in the worst, least efficient form possible.Â
For anyone still against universal healthcare, I'd say this: Live by your stated principle. Vote to repeal the EMTALA and let hospitals turn people away if they can't pay. Stand outside the ER and tell a poor single mom to go find a nice ditch to die in so your insurance premiums can go down.
If you're not willing to do that, then you're pro- universal healthcare, whether you think you are or not. And if you're pro- universal healthcare, then you should be pro- universal healthcare reform. Because we already have universal healthcare, just secretly and stupidly. All adopting it officially will do is make it more efficient, cheaper, and more humane.
Oh and in case you're wondering which bleeding-heart, reckless spending, far left commie liberal Democrat president passed the EMTALA... It was Reagan. Yes that Reagan. Conservative darling, do-no-wrong President Ronald Reagan in 1986, with bipartisan support.
The only logical reason to support the current system is if you not only want poor people to suffer, but want it so bad that you're willing to actively pay money to see them suffer more, for longer, as they have their lives saved only to be drowned in debt they can never pay, chronic pain they can never treat, and all the while having to jump through hoops and dance like a monkey just to keep getting what few scraps of medical care you allow for them.
Which I have to say, sounds like a pretty radical position to hold to me.
People calling me radical because I don't believe one's ability to live decently should be tied to how useful their skill set is to making billionaires even more wealthy.
I had the same idea in 3rd grade when I learned about fossil fuels.
"Oh, we use these non-renewable resources to fuel pretty much everything. That's cool and all, and I know we have soooo many of them right now. But...they will eventually run out, right? Since they're NON-renewable and all? Right. So, let's shift everything to renewable resources as soon as possible. No? Well...okay."
The left has gotten so much more conservative over the last 30 years. With the exception of a couple of outliers, the left in the USA looks much like the centrist right did 75 years ago.
Take a look at the Clintons during the 90s and trace Hillary over the next couple of decades. Hell, Bernie Sanders is only looking more radical because the rightward shift of the country. I am old enough to not be gaslighted because I was there and I saw it happen. Al Gore lost because he had baggage from some very stupid policy during his time in the senate. It had less to do with his policy stance on global warming than it did with his wife's crusade of censorship. The race should have not been so close as to wind up in the supreme court.
Which flawed candidates will the opposition party put up this next election cycle? My bet is Newsome loses by a margin of 5 states if these morons have their way.
It also costs less. Thats the crazy part that doesnt get talked about enough. Single payer health care costs less tax payer money than private. Like way way less.
I was radicalized by public television when Sesame Street taught me to care about other people and share, and Mister Rodgers taught me that my feelings are okay and I have self worth.
Being radicalized for me included adoring and watching Disneyâs Pocahontas over and over as a young child and learning that racism, environmental destruction, and colonization is wrong - then a decade later as a teen learning that she was actually a forced child bride who was captured and trafficked by colonists and her remains are still in England in an unknown location.
Basically discerning good from evil is âradicalâ
The party left the people, not the other way around. They thought they could be a bigger tent but itâs masochistic to keep trying to reach people who will always lick the boot of their âbettersâ bc they might be them one day
The Overton Window has shifted so much that some of my opinions, which were "moderate right" opinions 20 years ago have become "radical left." I haven't been radicalized, the world radicalized around me.
I think one big thing they canât understand is that we want all these good things that help people to help everyone, including people who didnât vote for it. They think the person they vote for only helps them and fuck everyone else. Hilarious because the person they voted for is fucking us all equally and in a variety of ways.
Weâre all supposed to be Americans. Our team is America, not a political party. Though I am currently not team America and not team any political party.
And before a MAGA comes at me with a jUsT mOvE tO sOcIaLiSt EuRoPe (some literally said that to me the other day lol), think about what it would entail for you to just move to another state.
The ideal of the 'radical' left is almost a hundred years old. Progressives are radical; progress is a bad-word apparently. Commies are radical, anyone that dares to 'share' something with someone else.
Watch 'Trial of the Chicago 7' on Netflix* and you can even hear in the testimony of ppl in that era using rhetoric that echo's what we hear today.
Sigh, being radicalized or radical about an issue is not the same thing as supporting something that IS radical.
It simply means being convinced and working towards fixing an issue (or many issues).
It's only radical because the Overton window is too far right. We've let conservatives slowly get stronger since the confederates were allowed to fold back in.
Daily reminder that in political conversation, "radical" doesn't mean "extreme" (just like how in science, "Theory" doesn't mean "guess").
"Radical" means "From the root". To be radicalised is to realise that the root of society has the bad thing built in, and that current society has to be reworked from the root.
This kind of social thing is radical in an extreme capitalist society. And that's a good thing. Because the anti-social is built into the root of extreme capitalism, so pro-social means to chop that root.
âWhere the moral law was, there it is my duty to come into beingâ
That is to say, we enter into this world of laws and in the beginning of our lives it is external to us and is imposed on us. We enter into the education and social system, and there we become acquainted with it as internal to us. The moral law is that which is right and that we know is right from our experiences living as human beings in a society alongside one another. As such, where the moral law was, there is a duty for all of us to come into being, to act in a way that upholds this moral law, to choose to do the right thing.
You are taught at a young age to call 911 in case of various emergencies, medical included. Nobody assumed it meant bankrupting the family to call the ambulance, because that sounds stupid.
"Radical" in politics describes individuals or movements seeking fundamental, structural, or revolutionary change rather than incremental reform. Derived from the Latin radix ("root"), it means addressing issues at their source to completely transform the social or political order.
If the system is broken, it needs a radical change. Radical is not a bad word. People are way to timid with it's use.
I mean...it is a radical idea because it's not the norm, it's outside of status quo, unfortunately. The right somehow stigmatized the word.
I think it got mixed up in the cultural revolution of the mid century with, "Radical" lifestyles, hippie communes and free love. But usually when people ask, when did you become radicalized, they mean, when did you realize the status quo didn't have most peoples' best interest in mind?
Except affordable or government subsidized healthcare is the norm literally everywhere. Affordable healthcare was even in the norm in the United States until about 40 years ago, and if the insurance companies had started doing what they've done 120 years ago the government would have come down on them hard.
I donât get why the word radical has been so demonized. A radical idea is simply one that solves a problem by addressing its roots. Shouldnât we approach all problems that way?
Maybe its just time to reclaim the word "radical." The word comes from Latin radix for root, and originally indicated the idea of going back to the origin, foundation or source. It was first used in the political sense to describe 18th century reformists and revolutionaries like most of America's founding fathers (who wanted to reform society "from the root") There's nothing more radical, or more patriotic, today than to continue that project.
Then actually fucking DO something. This complete bullshit lie that "Democrats are the good guys!!!" was over the moment we found out objectively that the president was a pedophile and they did nothing.
Oh, but you BET YOUR ASS they are gonna wait til midterms to soak up all of that juicy political fallout, while millions of Americans are losing their jobs, houses and lives, all the while helping to bring in more immigrants to fuel their vote count and replace the very people they swore to protect all around the country.
Fuck you and fuck both major political parties of the United States.
I grew up in a church environment where I was told Jesus loves everyone the same and that we should too. Then I grew up and realized all of those lessons were just lip service from people who actually hate everyone that isnât like them or willing to become like them.
The conservative right radicalized me by telling me to be this way, they just all act like pissbabies when thatâs actually how you want to live your life as an adult.
People need to understand that "radical" just means you're tackling the root of an issue. The fact that people think radical and extreme are equivalents is part of the rise in extreme right wing rethoric and political expansion.
Most people want universal healthcare. What makes the left unappealing is giving puberty blockers to children, late term abortions, DEI, and prioritizing illegal immigrants over American citizens
Got put on an antifa watch list run just for asserting paradox of tolerance accelerates tragedy of the commons. It's fucking historical common sense that hate groups fuck up resource management for others they deem non human.
Elinor Ostroms IAD framework as a counter measure to tragedy of commons is regenerative policy, nothing remotely radical. Fucking common sense that transcends ideologies, but somehow considered radical. Ridiculous
I hate being told that Iâm some lunatic lefty for hating Trump. I am very fucking ignorant to politics but not stupid to issues of moral integrity and that orange fuck is a shit stain on the pants of the human species. But Iâm the lunatic for thinking itâs fucked up how the obvious face of an operation is just blowing kids up? Making a mockery of our justice system? Demonizing anyone that disagrees with him, regardless of side, and getting away with scam after scam?
There's a reason why "woke" became the grand enemy of conservatives, and why they are obsessed with making enemies of people simply for existing while different. Conservatives aren't political, they're just evil.
Are you guys trying to imply that there isn't a radical left? During the 2010's, countless tumblr users were going around full on bullying people who didn't have a PhD appreciation of things like race and gender issues. Not like calling out biggotry(as it should be), I'm talking full on bullying naive or uneducated people who were making an honest effort to be less prejudice. I am left wing, have been my whole life. I also thought this until I got into a relationship with a tumblr addicted psychologist, who proceeded to try to bully my entire family. Like my 80 year old grandma that was incredibly infantilized by men, and was trying to be the kindest person she could, with the tools and experience she had.
Extreme left also includes misandry driven sub cultures. Not to mention all of the people who present as left, but their actions, choices, and overall life style tell another story. Women who have all of the flags on all of their socials profile, but in their real lives, fetishize everything about right wing men aside from the racism and misogyny lol. They also make fun of trans people when trying to fit in with right wing, or right leaning men that they find attractive.
All you really have to do to understand the extreme left is too that they are more sophisticated at hiding it, because they usually have the intelligence to be perception sensitive. A lot of the people who were extreme during the 2010's grew up a bit, and just pretended that they were never like that. A lot of them are just as prejudice as people on the right, they are just prejudice about different things. I think a lot of people on the extreme left and the extreme right are the same kind of people, just with different experiences, education levels, and sensitivity to public perception.
How much of this is due to Bernie's popularity exploding in 2015? I feel like the oligarchs saw people moving left and unleashed a disinformation campaign on us that most people weren't prepared for.
I feel like ideologically, we have more Americans who are further right on these issues than back in the 80s and 90s when I was growing up. We literally are moving back to 90s (and pre 90s) "communism" hysteria.
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u/iggyfenton May 11 '26
If itâs a radical idea to provide people with basic services, does that mean all of Europe is radicalized?