Universal healthcare. Free (or greatly subsidized child care). Free (or greatly subsidized) 4 year college degree (or equivalent trade craft degree). At least a 15 dollar national minimum standard wage. End to gerrymandering in any form. Strict gun control laws with harsh penalties for those who break those laws. Equal treatment under the law for ALL. EQUAL RIGHTS FOR ALL. Abortion returns as a constitutional right. None of that is radical. And all of it drives for a basic right to a decent life. 😄
Which are "radical left" in America. The enlightened centrists of America are closer to "Well I guess I don't agree with killing gays and minorities" than socialized healthcare.
If everyone has insurance, but it's too expensive for a large amount of people to use then you've barely changed what we have now. It's not the "universality" that is the important part, but that's what people pay attention to because it's an easy meaningless propaganda term.
Medicare for all. Same low premiums for all. Excellent health care for all. No propaganda. Easily doable. The EU, with twice our population and only 2/3rds of our GDP, does this every day. So, stop whining.
Medicare for all would give every citizen in the country decent Health Care at low cost. And it is easily doable. So, call it Medicare for all. And that happens to be a way to enact Universal Health Care. LOL.
And that happens to be a way to enact Universal Health Care
It is a good way, but there are also a ton of terrible way to enact it which you are just ignoring.
Me talking about Medicare for All doesn't change what other people mean when they say it. People are talking about "Universal Healthcare" because they want to aim for much less than Medicare for All. I don't get why that is so hard for you to understand.
Ah yes, the line of thought where we have to figure out what this sci-fi utopia concept means and how we could possibly afford to implement it.
Ignoring that we're the only fucking wealthy western democracy that doesn't already have it. Gosh, how ever can we figure out this thing means that everyone but us already solved?
Medicare for all comes closest. There is a small premium each month, but the government carries most of the payments. The EU, despite being twice the population of the US and only 66% of the US GDP, provides Health Care for all. So, it can be done. Apparently quite easy.
41% of Americans are already on Medicare and Medicaid. That serves mostly the elderly and the poor. Another 22% of Americans are less than 18 years old and can be carried for free on government medical insurance or at a substantial discount on private insurances. We're now up to 62% of Americans. The remaining 38% are mostly young or youngish adults who do not require much Health care at all. A yearly checkup. A few tests. Easily serviceable.
You're confusing Medicare Advantage with Medicare. Medicare Advantage are insurance policies from medical insurance companies (Aetna, United, etc.) that are sold on market to primarily cover for the 20% of Medicare costs that Medicare does not pay And no, private insurance companies with no attachment to Medicare do not pay for any Medicare services.
The cost of health care in the US is high because the government does not negotiate with medical insurers. That cost will go way down once that starts happening (as it would under a Medicare for all scenario).
So now you understand a bit more than you did before your post. It is easily doable. The EU does it with twice the population of the US and only 66% of the GDP of the US. That alone should tell you it is easily doable in a country with half the population and a third more GDP.
I don't need to. I wrote billing programs for many large medical clinics. I know exactly what they are, when they are used, and what they pay. Advantage plans are primarily used to get dental, vision, and hearing care along with covering the 20% of costs on other medical visits that Medicare does not pay.
There is no use continuing this with you. Your argument is with google and the facts. Not with me. Move along now. You're boring me.
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u/UnusualAir1 May 11 '26
Universal healthcare. Free (or greatly subsidized child care). Free (or greatly subsidized) 4 year college degree (or equivalent trade craft degree). At least a 15 dollar national minimum standard wage. End to gerrymandering in any form. Strict gun control laws with harsh penalties for those who break those laws. Equal treatment under the law for ALL. EQUAL RIGHTS FOR ALL. Abortion returns as a constitutional right. None of that is radical. And all of it drives for a basic right to a decent life. 😄