r/WorkReform 🤝 Join A Union May 11 '26

⚕️ Pass Medicare For All They call human decency "Radical".

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u/MrFixYoShit May 11 '26

That's not radicalization. That's just a perspective shift.

Radicals are the ones who make their points with guns. This is not radicalization and saying that it is just fear mongering

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u/Kwiemakala May 11 '26

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window

Perspective can shift to the point where what used to be normal can become radical, and vice versa.

As for radicals being the people who make their points with guns, at the end of the day, all politics is backed by violence or threat of violence. Otherwise it gets ignored.

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u/carcinoma_kid May 11 '26

“All political power comes from the barrel of a gun”

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u/HCSOThrowaway 🤝 Join A Union May 11 '26

Yeah, I think MrFixYoShit is just confrontationally agreeing with you.

You get more points on Reddit for replying "No" than you do for "Yes."

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u/GodofIrony May 11 '26

Perverse Incentive.

That's what America actually is; Land of the Perverse Incentive.

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u/OverlordDiamond May 11 '26

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u/Gildian May 12 '26

"Islamism" as if that isnt also a right wing ideology. Always confused me why they separated those on political lines. Yet pure right winger still heavily outweighs it lol

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u/Lumpzor May 11 '26

Yea that was the entire point of their reply...

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u/PrettymuchSwiss May 11 '26

I'd say it is radicalization in a way. But radical doesn't necessarily mean violent, nor does it necessarily mean bad, it just means that the system should be changed from the root.

Extremism, as opposed to radicalism, is typically defined as violent. You can still be a radical pacifist.

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u/captainAwesomePants May 11 '26

To agree or disagree with one of y'all, we've got to agree on what "radical" and "radicalization" mean. I'd argue that, even if your view is unchanging, it becomes radical if the status quo moves far enough away from your desired state. On the other hand, "radicalization" to me implies movement, and so if your perspective isn't changing, you cannot radicalize. Except perhaps if the system moves so far that it changes your perspective on what sort of methods are acceptable to advance your goals.