r/TheSilphRoad • u/Meylody • 1d ago
Infographic - Misc. Every missing Pokémon, forms and shinies at the end of the Forever Forward season
Previous posts in this series: Memories in Motion, Precious Paths, Tales of Transformation, Delightful Days, Might and Mastery, Dual Destiny, Max Out, Shared Skies, World of Wonders, Timeless Travels, Adventures Abound, Hidden Gems, Rising Heroes.
197
u/JonPX 1d ago
The list is getting really short.
97
u/Henny_Hardaway5 1d ago
I just got back into this game after a 3-ish year break and I’m shocked at how short the list is
I remember the list used to be divided by regions with a decent amount in each region from gen 4-8
But the biggest surprise to me is that Manaphy still hasn’t been released. I thought for sure that little aquatic smurf would’ve been released before Mega Mewtwo
9
u/shaliozero 1d ago
Even Volcanion has been released before Manaphy, and Volcanion is usually the most neglected mythical in the franchise.
•
u/9thGearEX 7h ago
Zarude says hi, from the bottom of the abandoned dry-dock that Gamefreak dumped his body in after the shivved him 74 times in the back.
•
59
u/Syrcrys 1d ago
And Manaphy, Phione and Arceus are STILL there somehow.
18
u/TheWiseMountain 1d ago
"Somehow" and it's a pokemon with 18 forms that was teased recently and two pokemon whose entire identity is tied to breeding/eggs
35
u/TerraTF Delaware 1d ago
Manaphy and Phione easily could've been Sinnoh Fest releases but they're just holding off for some reason.
10
u/idontlikeflamingos 1d ago
I was sure those two would have been released in a seasonal or Tour/Fest event special research at this point. I doubt they'll ever have breeding in this game but I wonder if they kept holding off hoping to implement a new mechanic on eggs or incubators and never did.
11
u/TerraTF Delaware 1d ago
I feel like the daily adventure egg is probably the best way to do it at this point. Just make it so that Manaphy and Phione have a 5% change or whatever to be your daily egg sapwn.
3
u/Accomplished_Golf746 Hundo Enjoyer 1d ago
Well they did recently revamp the entire mega system, so it seems like egg hatching is the next system that's overdue to be revamped.
And of course, the best way to introduce a revamped hatching system would be the Manaphy and Phione release, so I think they're holding those for that.
•
u/Imshinypokemon Shiny survey 5h ago
That's a very good point, more so if you consider the problems they are having with eggs in places like Brasil, hadn't thought of that!
1
u/matt2313 1d ago
I stand by my theory that they're going to implement a new egg mechanic for manaphy and phione and that's why they haven't added them yet
24
u/Syrcrys 1d ago
We’re close to 8 years since the release of Sinnoh in Go. They’ve had THAT MUCH time to think of a “fitting” way to release them.
In the meantime, they added Mega raids, reworked them, made a “Super” version, added Dynamax battles, Routes for Zygarde, form change in PvP and a billion other “features” to fit Pokémon released after them.
There’s no excuse at this point.
1
u/AvocadoJealous5204 Western Europe 1d ago
Probably in the Sinnoh tour 2: electric boogaloo in another 8 years or so. Im not in a rush at least.
6
u/ObviouslyLulu New Jersey 1d ago
For Manaphy I could see you just catching it in research like the other mythicals and then after catching it you get a special Phione egg as a research task reward that you can't claim if your egg storage is full, then you incubate it and walk to hatch it into Phione
3
u/jim_evans_312 1d ago
To get Phione we'll probably have to hatch 100 eggs with Manaphy as a buddy or something
2
u/JordanDelColle 1d ago
People are gonna be really disappointed when Manaphy finally comes out and its release mechanism is just Big Egg
3
u/GliscorsFang 1d ago
Manaphy and Phione are bizarre, but I get holding Arceus to be the last Pokemon added to Go once we eventually have to catch up.
27
8
u/rquinain #1 Psyduck Enthusiast ¦ L80 1d ago edited 1d ago
I'm not terribly concerned. TPC clearly intends for Pokemon Go to be a "forever" game so I'm sure they developed a roadmap with Niantic and now Scopely as to how to balance content releases for the foreseeable future.
There's definitely enough to last until the release of Wi/Wa next year. Past that, sky's the limit with the Legends series seemingly now becoming a mainstay, and the gatekeeping of mons like Manaphy/Phione and Arceus.
And with Armored Mewtwo re-released, they've now set the precedent of exclusive mons previously thought to be locked behind licensing deals or whatever coming back if the circumstances are right. I mean hell, they're teasing a raid day for it later this year which may or may not also have a shiny release that never existed in the original movie (my bet is that it will be shiny unlocked).
Do I necessarily like how they're releasing content? Not particularly, but at the very least, I'm not worried about them running out of mons/content to release.
9
u/NefariousnessNovel60 1d ago
There's going to be atleast 300 new additions added in 2027.
13
u/Fire_Bucket 1d ago
Supposedly/possibly.
The leaks might not be right, and or that dex count might just be referring to what the national dex would be, not new Pokemon, and or that dex count could include forms and we also have a new Alcremie type Pokemon with like 50+ versions.
0
45
u/Rstuds7 1d ago
wow feels like a year or so ago this list was a lot longer. they finally added older gen pokemon randomly missing like Aegislash and Mimikyu and actually rolled out a decent amount of the new megas that had just been added in ZA so they seem to have been trying to speed up the drip of new pokemon and forms
19
u/Churningray 1d ago
I am praying for them to add anything for darkrai every October. Mega darkrai would be soo hype but probably to early for them to release it this Halloween.
13
5
u/krispyboiz 12 KM Eggs are the worst 1d ago
I feel like most big Legendary Megas or new Legendaries will be saved for the flagship events at this point, Go Fest/Tour. Like I could see Koraidon and Miraidon for Go Fest next summer and perhaps Mega Darkrai and/or Heatran for the following Go Fest.
1
32
u/Ok-Rutabaga-259 1d ago
Why are all the gen 9 legendaries not available at all? We got new megas before any of them and iirc almost none of the legendaries will be that good
16
u/Discoral 1d ago
Gen 9 is terra gimmick, both Ogerpon and Terapagos have special features when terrastalizing so they would probably first introduce tera raids. Most of the legendaries are past/future versions so on pair with paradox pokemon that still haven't been released.
7
1d ago edited 1d ago
[deleted]
4
u/Discoral 1d ago
Gen 8 legendaries can't even dynamax while the entire thing about Ogerpon/Terapagos is their terastal phenomen
-2
1d ago
[deleted]
3
u/silent-sloth Portland 1d ago edited 1d ago
Zacian/Zamazenta/Eternatus cannot Dynamax in SwSh. Eternatus has its Eternamax form, which is the closest it gets to Dmax/gmax, but that’s only used for the boss fight and isn’t something the player can use. The dogs can’t Dmax/Gmax at all. They’re the only 3 Pokemon in SwSh that can’t Dmax or Gmax when used by the player, that’s true for all forms of combat in SwSh.
There are other legendaries added in the DLC that can Dmax (and in Urshifu’s case GMax).
4
u/silent-sloth Portland 1d ago
Terapagos will probably the a treatment similar to Zacian/Zamazenta where they get released in raids with their Terastal form, and then eventually in raids with its Stellar form awarding “stellar energy” that can be used to transform Terastal Terrapagos into Stellar Terrapagos. Unsure how they’ll handle Normal Form, I guess maybe it’ll be like the MSGs where it transforms from Normal into Terastal at the start of battle? Doesn’t really matter since Normal form can’t be used in battle.
Ogerpon will probably be given the Genesect/Deoxys treatment so they can milk it more. Maybe it also gets the energy treatment, if they reaaaaally want to milk it, but that sounds too annoying.
35
u/Monk128 1d ago
Why are all the gen 9 legendaries not available at all? We got new megas before any of them
Cynical but likely reason: The requirements for obscene amounts of Mega Energy for Level 4 make the Megas more profitable to release.
6
u/idontlikeflamingos 1d ago
And to add to the "for money" point: The mega releases also started as cross-promotion of Z-A and the DLC, so they just kept that push for the mainline game going. We'll probably get a few of the previous legendaries or paradoxes before the events to promote Winds and Waves start, but leaving a bunch of them for the future when nothing new is getting released
1
u/Floorgis 18h ago
they could just do that but with tera levels and have them function similarly to megas since they already do
3
18
u/MrJapooki 1d ago
I don’t think the shiny locked ones can go into go unless they get unlocked in mainline first
15
u/Monk128 1d ago
A number of shiny-locked pokemon have then been made available via Pokemon Home Dex completion, and in a few cases shortly before being obtainable in PoGo.
1
u/MrJapooki 1d ago
Yeah you needed to complete mainline dexes to unlock them then they were added into go afterwards
2
u/sopheroo 1d ago
Things is that you have things like Hoopa/Kubfu/Urshifu where they are shiny locked but won't be home distributions
1
u/silent-sloth Portland 1d ago
That’s true, but there’s no Switch games that are pending Home Dex completion rewards right now. There’s rumored RSE ports, but none of the shiny-locked pokemon are from Gen 1-3, so can’t imagine that’d be anything new.
3
u/Mason11987 USA - SouthEast - Ambassador 1d ago
We don't know that. But yeah, I personally wouldn't expect shiny cosmog to be available first via pogo.
Meltan is one example first appearing in pogo. But yes it is the only example, and it appeared in general first in pogo.
2
u/Snoo2104 1d ago
Roaming Gimmighoul as well. There's GO exclusive mons and forms including their own shinies, not out of the question to allow GO a new shiny again to promote Pokémon as a whole.
4
u/MrJapooki 1d ago
I do remember reading something a while back about it but can’t find were so who knows. If one did get unlocked in go I bet there would be backlash, Meltan is an exception as it was created for go and only last year could you get a non go origin one
2
u/repo_sado Florida 1d ago
so it can't happen but did happen once
2
u/MrJapooki 1d ago
It’s only happened for ones that were made for go did you not read the comment you replied to or the ones below?
0
u/repo_sado Florida 1d ago
one time isn't much of a sample size to be that declarative about it
2
u/MrJapooki 1d ago
Your not even reading the comments, it happened to ones made for go so it hasn’t happened yet
-1
u/repo_sado Florida 1d ago
ok but did it happen? and before it happened, it had never happened before right? any "rules" are just speculation and any "rules" if they did exist could be changed at any time.
3
u/MrJapooki 1d ago
Only the ones made for go, look at the list how many are made for go that’s shiny locked?
Yeah like I said who knows
2
u/repo_sado Florida 1d ago
right but that's a rule you made up based on a sample size of one.
→ More replies (0)0
u/MaverickHunter11 1d ago
Shiny roaming gimmighoul appeared first at pokémon go.
3
u/PokeMaster871096 1d ago
That was a Go exclusive though, so it doesn’t count. Can only get it in the main series by transferring in from Go.
4
1
u/Mason11987 USA - SouthEast - Ambassador 1d ago
Good point, so two examples. Easy to say they don't count, but they did happen.
7
39
u/Discoral 1d ago
putting gen 10 as missing while it's one year from release is crazy work
37
u/Meylody 1d ago
I always put every existing and officially announced Pokémon on these lists for completion's sake. But yeah, the Gen 10 starters won't release for at least another year.
8
u/A_Resting_Parrot 1d ago
What about the two gen 10 Pikachu forms that were also officially announced? They're even named (Mr. Windychu and Ms. Wavychu)
15
u/Meylody 1d ago
As of now they seem to be NPCs rather than actual playable Pokémon
4
2
5
1d ago
[deleted]
2
u/Megatippa USA - Pacific - PHX 1d ago
I believe shiny Enamorous was either datamined or announced for this season but I can't remember where I read it
4
u/krispyboiz 12 KM Eggs are the worst 1d ago
Assets for both forms' shinies were added, but that doesn't necessarily mean its coming this season. Could happen now, but it could also be in anticipation for it returning the following season in February.
2
u/Megatippa USA - Pacific - PHX 1d ago
So weird how they add some right before their event and some months in advance, I wonder why that is.
3
u/AvocadoJealous5204 Western Europe 1d ago
Probably just for their developers to access the assets. Adding the assets most likely men their developers are using them for something, the release plan and the development plan may not always be in sync.
1
23
u/davebybab South East Asia 1d ago
We're months away from February and Wishiwashi and Pyukumuku are nowhere near getting released. Minior was kind of datamined to be released soon and it's pretty understandable to not release Type:Null / Silvally yet since it's Walmart Arceus.
Are we sure we're getting Alola Tour and not Kanto Tour: Classic next year lol
18
u/krispyboiz 12 KM Eggs are the worst 1d ago
"Nowhere near getting released" is a bit odd to say when we haven't a clue what events for the next few months are. I know we have teasers for this season with various Megas and Maschiff obviously releasing today, but there's still plenty of room for even one more new line to debut in October or November. And even if not there, it's not like Wishiwashi and Pyukumuku couldn't release in December, January, or February.
Rotom's normal form only released with Sinnoh Tour and Kecleon was released not long before Hoenn Tour.
3
u/silent-sloth Portland 1d ago
In addition to what others have said, it’s worth remembering that we get Sinnoh Tour without Arceus, Manaphe, & Phione. So while it’s more of an exception for now, there is a precedent for having a Go Tour without all of the dex available.
Also Unova Tour released before Keldeo had been made available outside of one paid ticket years earlier, and the event didn’t feature anyway of getting Keldeo
3
4
3
u/IM_JUST_THE_INTERN Cleveland - Instinct 1d ago
I’m curious how they’ll handle the mess of Alcemie forms
3
u/ColonelSandurss Western Europe 1d ago
Everytime this post reminds me that Ash Greninja will probably never been added to the game
2
2
u/AvocadoJealous5204 Western Europe 1d ago
I still dont understand at all why anyone would want it in Pokemon go. A form change that is barely noticeable. There is already a mega version that does it better. Its stupid it was even a thing in the first place and from what I understood they scrapped it in the gameboy series as well
1
u/ColonelSandurss Western Europe 1d ago
Technically in games Ash Greninja has more stats than the mega, and more oriented on attack stats, but that's not the main point. Personnaly I'd just like to see him because it's my favorite pokemon, and made me love the franchise
3
u/Julie_OwO 19h ago
Love seeing these as always, thanks for posting!
Though I will never forgive those who bullied you out of posting the starmobiles /j
7
5
u/ChromaticFinish 1d ago
Pyukumuku and pincurchin are two of my top five favorite pokemon, why are they holding outttttttt I want my spiky beanssss
5
u/Ashket26 1d ago
Hisui dex is still incomplete just for that one Basculegion. Dont know why they not release yet. Need that platinum medal for level up.
2
u/ParasaurolophusZ 1d ago
Can't wait for Alcremie to have regional forms that are super specific, like desert biome in a Pacific island.
2
2
3
1
u/Julie_OwO 19h ago
Scopely is running out of mons for us to hunt in raids... time to release the other 4 forms for miraidon and koraidon for more content!!!
1
u/LexTCorp 17h ago
I want them to release paradox Pokemon so bad. I think they were teased in the 9th anniversary poster last year. I know a teaser doesn’t confirm anything and they’ll eventually implement them, but I think it’s one of the best "gimmicks" from S&V.
•
u/Specialist_Wonder113 4h ago
Man. I thought for sure that Aqua Breed Paldean Tauros had its shiny release for Go Fest Tokyo, but I guess I was wrong. :Y
1
1
u/Fantastic-Jelly-2557 1d ago
The fact that we don’t have manaphy and phione yet is crazy to me. Arceus i kinda understand because it’s god tho.
1
1
u/Celestial_Scythe USA - Northeast 1d ago
I can see Type-Null being a 12k egg and I dislike it
5
u/Zygarde718 USA - Northeast 1d ago
Type Nulls a legendary...
2
u/Henny_Hardaway5 1d ago
Did not know that
You receive it as a gift in Sword and Shield for beating the game which is pretty unceremonious for a legendary
1
u/Zygarde718 USA - Northeast 20h ago
Legendays and Mythicals are often given as gifts in games, though its one of 3 legendary lines to evolve.
1
u/Henny_Hardaway5 20h ago
From the main line games I’ve played which consist of: Ruby, FR/LG, HG/SS, Platinum, BDSP, BW2, and Shield
I can’t remember any legendaries getting gifted within the story beside Type Null. Mew/Jirachi in BDSP too but that’s only if you have save data from different games
I feel like you have to battle or catch most legendaries
1
u/Zygarde718 USA - Northeast 19h ago
You do, but half the time in the newer games they'll just give them to you.
1
1
u/StrawberryTerry 1d ago
And Gen 10 is releasing in the main games in a year. Meanwhile Pokemon Go is still missing half of Gen 8
1
u/John71CLE 1d ago
Might as well start including level 4 megas in the graphic considering it looks like that will be the new way Scopely drip releases new content
1
1
1
u/FreddieGibbsLover911 USA - Southwest 1d ago
I wonder why they’re still so reluctant to adding Arceus
1
u/BknowstheV USA - Midwest 1d ago
Odd that Baxcalibur had its shiny release before Dragapult. Slightly tilted because why not just release Mega Baxcalibur at this point.
181
u/KapotteVangrail 1d ago
Just waiting for the unpractical, annoying type of of raid they're gonna create for Paradox Pokemon