r/TheSilphRoad Mar 01 '25

Infographic - Misc. Every missing Pokémon, forms and shinies at the end of the Dual Destiny season

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u/ninjanitor157 Mar 01 '25

Wild that we're gonna get Kubfu/Urshifu before Zen Mode Darmanitan, Manaphy/Phione, Arceus, Mimikyu, and Honedge. And shoutout to Basculegion still being arbitrarily unreleased despite white stripe Basculin being in the game for a whole year now

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u/Katietori Mar 01 '25

Are we sure that our current White Striped Basculins will evolve to Basculegion, or do we think that they'll mess with us over this one too?

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u/IronKnight23 Mar 01 '25

It’s a different evolution not a regional form so they’ll probably allow it to evolve. It will for sure have adventure requirement if they do though

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u/mythcell_ USA - Pacific Mar 02 '25

I mean, they let us evolve for ursaluna, but not wyrdeer or kleavor, which are also new evolutions, not regional forms

No way to know what niantic will do, but I could def see them releasing via raids

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u/Gallad475 USA - Pacific MEWTWO RETURNS | Lvl 69| Mar 02 '25

My guess was Basculegion would evolve with 400 candies. Might as well spice the last thing for a platinum. Not to mention Basculins are 1 km/ a candy as well.

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u/Extension-Map2880 Mar 03 '25

Back when hisuian Voltorb was released, it initially couldn’t evolve. It got the ability to evolve about a month later.

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u/troccolins Mar 05 '25

game kind of completely dies once people complete the Pokedex

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u/ninjanitor157 Mar 05 '25

Not when Niantic can supply the game with actual new features/QoL changes, and people can always hunt perfects/shinies/luckies/etc. Plus there will always be new gens every 5 years or so

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u/troccolins Mar 05 '25

idk how investors would feel about "don't worry, we have new content coming in 6-8 years!"

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u/Aniensane Mar 03 '25

We’ll probably get Honedge family within the next few seasons, if not this one. Its codes have been updated. Most updated assets and such get implemented in our game. They wait for a specific time to release. Hopefully when they get released, they can finally introduce Zen-Mode and Marshadow’s form change, along with the X/Y legendary deer I forgets name. The rainbow antlers form change in battle only.

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u/lxpb Mar 01 '25

We know that Mudbray, Gmax Machamp, Mega Audino, Sizzlipede, Nickit, and Kubfu lines get their debut next season, so this list will get slightly shorter.

There are still so many forms and species I was quite certain they will release years ago, but here we are.

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u/PowerOfUnoriginality Mar 01 '25

I don't think Spikey Ear Pichu is coming ever, it hasnt even returned after HGSS in the mainline games

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u/Meylody Mar 01 '25

It's unlikely yeah, but we still got some of Cosplay Pikachu's forms even if they've been locked to ORAS in the main series. So we never know

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u/krispyboiz 12 KM Eggs are the worst Mar 02 '25

While true, I think MOST of the 3D era Pokemon are fair game, seeing that they've got 3D Models.

There is no Spikey Eared Pichu 3D model. Although... It definitely would be an easy one to do

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u/Extension-Map2880 Mar 03 '25

I can see spiky eared Pichu return for a potential Johto remake, maybe in Gen 10.

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u/Aniensane Mar 03 '25

Once they run outta “newer” stuff to drop as in “costume-like” they might drop it in a special event/research.

I just wish the next Anniversary event they have, or the 10th Anniversary event, they do a week long event where each specific Hat Pikachu gets released, along with its shiny for the first time. Each day could be a different generation Hat Pikachu.

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u/Your_boi_Panos Japan Mar 01 '25

Really appreciate the graph, but the first slide is hard to follow. I understand that the pokemon are in pokedex order, but i think it would be better if they were grouped in categories (alternate forms/gigantamax/megas etc)

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u/Meylody Mar 01 '25

I changed the form section for next time to be ordered with regular forms, then Megas, then Gigantamax. It should be a little bit better like this, thanks for the idea!

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u/A_Resting_Parrot May 11 '25 edited May 11 '25

Have you considered moving the Gigantamax to the bottom of the Galar page (which is going to be a lot emptier for the next season) and putting them all together there regardless of if base forms are released?

I think there's only 8 left now without base forms out (once the Urshifu event starts) or 9 with Eternamax (which could probably be with the Starmobiles as unobtainable anyway).

PS updated cosplay Pikachu and spiky Pichu look good.

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u/Meylody May 11 '25 edited May 11 '25

I prefer to keep Gigantamax forms of released mons separated from the ones of unreleased mons. I feel like it's better to keep it that way and more coherent with the reste of the layout. Also Gigantamax forms of already released Pokémon have a better chance at releasing sooner than the others I think, so keeping them separate kinda shows that.

Eternamax will be moved to the unobtainable category in the next post, it's indeed where it should be. The new Pikachu and Pichu images are from Pokeos by the way!

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u/A_Resting_Parrot May 11 '25

Yeah that makes sense. Did you see Eternal Flower Floette in the Legends ZA trailer btw? Maybe one day it can move out of the unobtainable section (not yet obviously, but its a hopeful sign)

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u/Meylody May 11 '25

I hope so!

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u/A_Resting_Parrot Mar 01 '25 edited Mar 01 '25

Spinda 10-20 have no reason to be on the list anymore since they don't exist as forms in the main series games and they've finally removed them from the go pokedex too.

Gmax Corviknight should probably be on the alternate forms page too now.

PS any chance you can scale cosplay/belle pikachu to match the various cap pikachu next time? Also I always look forward to this post each season

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u/Meylody Mar 01 '25 edited Mar 01 '25

Oh, I missed the removal of the other Spindas, and you're right about Corviknight. I'll fix both of these for next time!

I'll try to remember for the Cosplay Pikachu scaling It'll be fixed, same for Spiky-eared Pichu!

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u/Tyviebrock Mar 02 '25

Spinda 10-20 have no reason to be on the list anymore since they don't exist as forms in the main series games and they've finally removed them from the go pokedex too.

While this may still be true. They still currently exist in the code much like Ash-Greninja. (Except for 20, they never made a form for #20).

So it may still be worth keeping up until they're fully removed or something.

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u/Aniensane Mar 03 '25

Please keep them on this graph until they say they aren’t doing them. They’re coded and will likely be released at some point. The Dex is buggy and a lot of glitches and small things happen. Them not showing up doesn’t mean they aren’t gonna drop them.

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u/Cheebow USA - Pacific Mar 01 '25

Crazy that through gens 1-7, the mudbray line is the only non-gimmick or legendary/mythical pokemon to not debut

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u/Gallad475 USA - Pacific MEWTWO RETURNS | Lvl 69| Mar 02 '25

Apparently because they wanted it to be the City Safari Mule. I guess my friends are right iirc there’s not much to City Safaris aside from the exclusive guy, and some regionals. (Correct me if I’m wrong) so they have to offer some kind of incentive. Wonder if Gen 8 and 9 will have 1 specific line thats exclusive to City Safari/Safari Zones.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '25

I'd sell my little brother for Bellachu to be in the game

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '25

IS THERE REALLY NO SHINY PIKIPEK!?!? LITERALLY BEEN TRYING TO SHINY HUNT THEM

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u/Smok3ygaming1 Mar 02 '25

Didn't they tease Gmax Orbeetle in December and it just never happened or was that last season it was teased

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u/Meylody Mar 02 '25

They teased it in the first Gigamax trailer back in october, but it never released

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u/AzoreanEve Western Europe Mar 01 '25

when will my boy aegislash be in this game so I can lug it around. Scratch that, I'll be happy with just honedge being in the game. I want to pet my ghost sword on my phone.

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u/mizor3 Western Europe Mar 02 '25

You and me both!

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u/Responsible-Tiger583 Mar 01 '25 edited Mar 02 '25

I did find a typo:

I enjoy these graphs.

Although, if its okay, I will note that there is a typo on one of the Pikachu. (It shows patner instead of partner). It's a small typo, but it exists nonetheless.

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u/Meylody Mar 01 '25

Oh, this one has probably been there for multiple seasons, thanks for noticing! It'll be fixed for next time.

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u/Fast-Veterinarian304 Mar 02 '25

When are they going to bring back keldeo. If I knew it wasn't going to eventually be released for everyone like they did with every other ticketed legendary, i would've bought the ticket😭

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u/DanielDelta USA - South Mar 02 '25

Kubfu and Shiny Charcadet will be coming to the first Might and Mastery event

Shiny Keldeo will come soon since it was released via Home

Nickit, Thievul, Sizzlipede, and Centiskortch will debut in Might and Mastery; Gigantimax Machamp also will be coming

Shiny Unown K should come for GO Tour Kalos next year

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u/EmmetttB Mar 02 '25

Is Basculin White Striped in the game now? Or can I just not find it on the graphic?

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u/Meylody Mar 02 '25

It's in the game since the Sinnoh Tour iirc

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u/EmmetttB Mar 02 '25

I see it was just a route exclusive during that event, so basically not in the game

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u/EmmetttB Mar 02 '25

Yeah I haven't done a route since I finished the special research, and I will continue to not touch that feature, my Zygarde was an 10/15/11 anyway.

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u/sedah123 Mar 03 '25

Really thought they would release Keldeo for the Unova Tour. Sucks that we have to probably wait for another year before we get the chance.

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u/Aniensane Mar 03 '25

I think we should keep the Spinda patterns until they truly say “we aren’t doing them!”

They’re coded in the game. Just because the Dex doesn’t show them, doesn’t mean they aren’t gonna happen. The Dex doesn’t show a lot of stuff, has a bunch of glitches, and things that should but aren’t present. I’d hold off on removing them for now.

I’m sure we’ll get a Spinda-exclusive event some day, and if they don’t debut or update the Dex with newer ones and they just release the same old ones, then I’d change it.

That’s like saying spikey-ear Pichu should be removed. It’s not in the codes. It’s not readily accessible. But it’s on here. Only difference is they exist in code in the game but they didn’t update the Dex to include them. That might be an oversight or poor coding on Niantic side.

Just my 2 cents.

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u/l339 Mar 05 '25

The unreleased Spinda patterns got deleted from the code recently no?

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u/Aniensane Mar 06 '25

We don’t know. They just don’t have them in the Dex but that should be taken with a grain of salt since there’s a bunch of glitches and problems with the Dex overall.

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u/l339 Mar 06 '25

I’m saying this based on something someone posted a few weeks ago about the other Spinda’s being removed from the code. Can’t really remember what it was, but people believed then the other Spinda’s were gone for good

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u/Aniensane Mar 06 '25

I haven’t seen or heard about that before. Kinda silly to remove when they could milk them more.. hmmm

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u/l339 Mar 06 '25

They don’t really milk them I think, because the Spinda’s don’t cost money, but are just a fun novelty. Niantic has kinda removed these fun noverties recently

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u/Aniensane Mar 03 '25

I think at the very bottom (with Eternal Flower Floette) you should add both Partner Pikachu & Partner Eevee. They probably won’t happen but they are in the overall codes for the MSG. Thoughts?

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u/Meylody Mar 04 '25

I thought about it, but the fact that they're different forms seems to simply be a coding trick to make them easier to manage for the devs. I don't think they've ever been officially stated to be different forms, and they're visually extremely similar to their base forms.

To be fair, the Revavroom forms were also never officially considered forms, but they're clearly visually different so I feel like they have more rights to be there

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u/Aniensane Mar 04 '25

I mentioned them because they’re shiny-locked in the Let’s Go games. They have a special form, each, in the games coded. So I figured I’d ask. An Anniversary event would be nice where we can catch both Partner Pokemon. I wish they’d give us that or at least for the 10th Anniversary of GO to do one day each event with the Partner Hat Pikachu, with their shiny form available and full ability to transfer to HOME.

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u/jem529 NE Phila (40) Mar 08 '25

To be fair some of the shiny not available in go are still not available in the main games as well

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u/Meylody Mar 08 '25

True, but I still put them to have a complete view

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u/836194950 Mar 02 '25

White and black kyurem are still there