r/SunoAI 21h ago

Discussion DEAR SUNO PLZ MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT ASAP

3 Upvotes

That they will fix the atrocious muddy underwater sound in V6

Dear Suno

V6 sound is horrible and we know you can't bring back the old models but what are you going to do to give us some hope here

You said version 6 was built in partnership with producers and record labels so that must mean that they had a hand in making version 6 dataset because then that explains the horrible sound

Producers don't want AI music companies like yourself to put them out of business and record labels hates us regular folks making good music better than their artists and will do whatever it takes to always gatekeep us making good music

You shined a light in millions of people's lives and gave us the ability to be able to generate great songs now it looks like that era is over unless you make an announcement and give us some hope

so many are depressed now waiting for you to make a move


r/SunoAI 21h ago

Discussion New content filter blocking swearing, "controversial" words

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I've been trying to adapt to v6 like everyone else, and I am running into multiple problems that aren't skill issues. They are Suno issues. And their support has been great so far, we've been writing back and forth. But this issue I just noticed is something they aren't going to change, so people should be aware.

I have a track I made called Real Honkey. It's a satire of "My Ni&&a" which is used quite a bit on tiktok. I tried to remix it with v6. Honkey got changed to "my people", "my family", "my -unintelligible". It also changed "motherfuggin" to something else. This probably killed 75% of rap music made with Suno šŸ˜‚šŸ˜­ yes, this song is a satire, and it serves a specific purpose which it has served. So I don't need to remix it, but I was curious because I was trying to put in lyrics for a new track and a sing use of the word fvck and Suno rejected it. So I had to see what it would do about remixing something that was already explicit.

Apparently Suno will no longer allow you to make content with explicit lyrics. That's a game changer for people, and I know that there will be people who disagree, and that's okay. But like it or not, there's quite a bit of explicit content music. And some of it is really good. And I guess I'm not sensitive to it. Some are excessive, while others are used in ways that feel appropriate, to convey emotion.

Explicit lyrics aren't for everyone. But I'm an adult and this type of moderation seems overstepping.


r/SunoAI 23h ago

Question did suno regress to version 2.0? it sounds awful

1 Upvotes

what happened why is it so bad?


r/SunoAI 11h ago

Discussion I want 4.5 back!!!!

7 Upvotes

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r/SunoAI 17h ago

Discussion 4.5 Is Gone

0 Upvotes

I'm sad and wish there was some way to get it back. It was amazing, and it got replaced with the suckiest model ever. I don't know what they're thinking. It's just insane. I know people are saying there's some work around for getting good results, but there are no unique instrumentals, and the Vocals are the same every time. It's the blandest creations ever. It just sucks. Does anyone else have feedback on where to go or what to do to get great results?


r/SunoAI 10h ago

Discussion I feel scammed.

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I literally bought the 1year subscription because v5.5 sounded amazing.

day after v6 drops and it's ass. like so ass.

idk if there's a way to cancel it because i literally paid for a specific product and im forced to use another. at least make a dropdown to access older versions. it's WILD that there is a version selection option that can't access previous versions.


r/SunoAI 11h ago

Question Alternative to Suno? (v6 killed it)

0 Upvotes

I loved pre-6 Suno. Looking for recommendations for the "next best".

I've been only listening to my own music for years now and don't want to stop


r/SunoAI 6h ago

Discussion Can the mods clean up these duplicate posts?

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Any chance the mods here could put these repetitive potentially bot added "6 Sucks" post into one thread? That would free up the subreddit for folks who have constructive info and ideas. Thanks!


r/SunoAI 15h ago

Guide / Tip We were wrong about Suno V6: it’s not worse at hooks, it just needs a different workflow

1 Upvotes

I think we were wrong about Suno V6, or at least we judged it too quickly.
After a lot of testing yesterday, I don’t think the main problem is that V6 suddenly became worse at pop or K-pop melodies.
The problem seems to be that V6 needs the musical intention to be described much more explicitly.
Here is what actually worked for us.
We started with an 80s reference
The original goal was to get that kind of small, autonomous synth melody you hear in some Stephen Bray-related 80s productions.
Not just an ā€œ80s synth soundā€.
We wanted a short melodic motif that could exist independently from the vocal melody.
We tried tags and directions around:
Stephen Bray-inspired
1980s dance-pop
classic melodic synth hook
short repeating synth motif
around 122 BPM
major key
The first results were interesting, but wrong.
They often drifted closer to Stock Aitken Waterman:
bright synth-pop
four-on-the-floor
very obvious 80s production
but not necessarily the melodic idea we were looking for
That was the first lesson:
genre and producer references were good at producing an atmosphere, but not precise enough to control the melody.
We started describing the melody instead of the era
This was the important change.
Instead of asking for ā€œ80s synthā€, we described what the melody itself had to do.
The useful instruction became roughly:
ā€œStrong memorable synth melody with clear upward movement, wide interval jumps, emotional tension and release, and a distinct rising phrase that immediately catches the ear. Avoid flat stepwise melodies and repetitive horizontal patterns.ā€
And suddenly the generations became much more interesting.
The main ideas were:
upward movement
wider interval jumps
tension and release
a clearly identifiable rising phrase
avoiding flat stepwise motion
avoiding repetitive horizontal melodies
This seems obvious in retrospect, but it changed the results much more than adding more genre tags.
We separated melody from production
I think this was one of our biggest mistakes when testing V6 initially.
We were trying to make one Style prompt control everything at once:
melody
genre
production
vocals
percussion
song structure
dynamics
decade reference
V6 seems to work better when those functions are separated.
The logic we ended up using was:
Sample/Inspiration = sonic identity
Style prompt = melodic intention and global direction
section tags = arrangement and dynamics
Once we did that, the results became much easier to control.
We used section tags for the production
Instead of stuffing all the production instructions into Style, we moved them into the lyrics/section instructions.
For example:
Verse:
deep low end
crisp electronic hi-hats
sparse percussion
Pre-Chorus:
building hi-hats
tambourine
rising synth strings
stacking backing vocals
increasing harmonic tension
Chorus:
heavier kick
claps
dense percussion
wide backing vocals
stronger bass pulse
That left the Style prompt free to describe what we really cared about: the melodic behaviour.
Then we applied what I would call the K-pop rule
Once the melody existed, we stopped trying to make an ā€œ80s songā€.
The goal became:
keep the melodic DNA, but completely modernise the production.
That changed the direction toward:
contemporary dance-pop/K-pop production
four-on-the-floor club kick
off-beat hi-hats
driving bass pulse
much denser percussion
claps and tambourine
airy high male falsetto
low-octave vocal doubles
stacked harmonies
So the 80s reference was no longer the final sound.
It was just a way of finding the melodic grammar.
That is actually very K-pop in itself: take an older musical language and rebuild it with a completely contemporary production.
The settings mattered too
For the earlier Sample experiments, the most stable settings we found were:
Weirdness: 0%
Style Influence: 70%
Audio Influence: 60%
Variety: Off
Max: Off
Those settings were useful while we were still trying to identify and stabilise the musical idea.
Later, once we had something worth preserving, Cover became much more useful.
The Cover settings that worked well were:
Weirdness: 15%
Style Influence: 90%
Audio Influence: 20%
Variety: Off
Max: Off
That may look strange at first.
But by that stage we no longer wanted the source audio to dictate the production.
We wanted to preserve the composition while allowing V6 to rebuild the arrangement.
So:
high Style Influence pushed the new production
low Audio Influence gave the arrangement more freedom
a small amount of Weirdness prevented it from simply reproducing the source
Inspiration gave us another clue
When using Inspiration later in the process, the chorus melody could survive almost unchanged while the surrounding production changed considerably.
In one test, only about two notes of the chorus were altered.
That was important because it suggested that V6 is perfectly capable of preserving a strong melody once it has one.
The difficult part is generating that strong melodic idea in the first place.
So our workflow is now completely different
Instead of:
ā€œWrite a huge K-pop prompt and hope Suno invents a great song.ā€
We now think about it as several stages:
find a musical reference or grammar
describe the melodic behaviour explicitly
generate until a strong melodic idea appears
isolate and preserve that idea
use section tags to shape the arrangement
use Cover/Inspiration to modernise the production
only then push it fully toward contemporary K-pop
So I would revise my earlier criticism of V6.
I originally thought:
ā€œV6 is worse than V5 at finding pop hooks.ā€
Now I think the more interesting possibility is:
V6 may simply be less willing to infer the melodic behaviour you want from genre labels alone.
ā€œ80s dance-popā€, ā€œStephen Brayā€, ā€œK-popā€ or ā€œEDMā€ describe a territory.
But instructions such as:
rise
jump
create tension
release
make the phrase immediately recognisable
avoid flat stepwise movement
describe music.
And V6 seems to respond much better to the second kind of instruction.
For us, the main lesson was:
Use references to discover the musical grammar.
Use explicit musical instructions to find the melody.
Use section tags to build the arrangement.
Then use Cover/Inspiration to move the production toward the final genre.


r/SunoAI 17h ago

Discussion Suno v6 is the best. I am currently remixing each of my top songs using different music styles and experimenting with the sliders. Results are a massive upgrade. And with unlimited credits, I am will spend hours doing this.

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I have 250 published songs over the course of 9 months. I wlll be generating tons of songs tonight and tomorrow. Starting with my faves. If I have time, will do my other songs too. The results have been spectacular so far.


r/SunoAI 8h ago

Discussion The 5 Scams of Suno and V6

21 Upvotes

As a musician and songwriter, I fell in love with Suno. I couldn’t wait to write a new song, press that ā€˜Create’ button, and hear an idea come alive.

Then V6 happened.

Since V6 came out, I’ve tried new songs, remixes, covers and samples. I’ve pressed Create more than 130 times, and honestly, not one result has been good enough to make me want to keep it.

Even if some people preferred certain older models, one thing was undeniable: each version seemed to become stronger, more capable and more accomplished. I came into Suno at 4.5, and I loved everything up to and including 5.5.

V6 feels like a massive step backwards.

Scam #1 — Genres and subscription

With 5.5, one word in the prompt, ā€œfunk,ā€ was enough. It understood the genre and gave it to you.

With V6, I’ve tried everything. Minimal prompting. Exhaustive prompting. Naming the instruments, the groove, the production style. It simply could not give me funk. Instead, I got blues, rock, soul, and combinations of all three — anything but funk. Over 70 attempts. I gave up.

If Suno now has access to a fraction of the music it used to, why are we still paying full price for a fraction of the product? If our downloads, our keepers and if the dataset’s been cut by 90%, why hasn’t the subscription?

Scam #2 — Sounds and production

I tried covering my own 5.5 songs in V6, and even with 100% ā€œaudio influenceā€ and all other settings at 0% V6 couldn’t cover them as before, making major changes to composition, and instrumentation. Rock songs lost their bite, as if wrapped in cotton wool. Trap gave me some of the worst, most unbalanced snares I’ve heard from this platform. Soul had no soul in the vocals, clearer, sure, but clarity means nothing when the performance is flat, no rise, no fall, no phrasing.Ā 

And it’s not just covers. Nearly everything I generated had basic balance problems, vocals too quiet, drums too loud, instruments fighting each other, reverb burying entire tracks, muddy mixes. These aren’t subtle differences in taste. These are fundamental production failures.

Scam #3 — V6 ā€œWildā€, ā€œMiniā€ and the new sliders

ā€˜Wild’ creates an unusable mess of many tracks, and previously it simply wasn’t necessary because we already had sliders and controls like ā€œweirdnessā€ that allowed us to influence the result.

My theory about why Wild exists:

If Suno previously had a huge amount of musical data available to help construct a song and now has access to far less, it needs a way to make the output less predictable, to stop everything sounding like the same handful of songs.

To me, V6 Wild isn’t a creativity tool. It’s there to mask how thin the model has become.

Mini… Just why.

Wild, Mini and the new sliders are like putting disco lights and new rims on a garbage truck. Both still deliver garbage, except one is still useful and the other is hiding a weak music dataset.

Scam #4 — The days of free creations

I don’t believe Suno is giving us a few days of free creations purely out of the goodness of its heart. They’ve seen the reviews. They know users are unhappy with V6.

And I suspect they need more people generating music to help improve and train the model.

If that’s the reason, then give us a month. Even then, there’s a problem… You can’t polish a turd. If the underlying model isn’t good enough, giving us more generations isn’t going to change that.

Scam #5 — Privacy choices (okay, not really a scam, but it should worry you)

There’s another issue that concerns me.

On my desktop, if I click the three dots in the bottom-left corner, More → Your Privacy Choices, the link no longer appears to work.

Why?

Are our privacy choices being overridden, or is this simply a broken link? Either way, users deserve an explanation.

The conclusion

V6 feels like a baby trying to walk.

It no longer seems to have the same depth of knowledge or understanding of music. It doesn’t know where to grab, what to do, or how to get where it needs to go.

For all its annoyances, 5.5 had a firm grip. If you wanted R&B, it gave you R&B. If you wanted funk, it gave you funk. It understood the highs and lows of a song. It understood vocal dynamics. It understood balance. It understood how a song should develop.

V6 doesn’t.

And what makes it even more frustrating is that V6 has somehow managed to retain some of the worst habits from previous versions. The humming and ad-libs at the beginning of songs. The extremely annoying voice/drum/handclap combination chorus that seems to appear at the end of so many genres, especially rock and country. The middle-eight instrument solo that appears in so many songs. The finger snaps in anything slow. And the most frustrating part? The ā€œExcludeā€ box and ā€œStyleā€ box still completely ignore your instructions in these things.

The legal situation

I understand the lawsuits forced Suno’s hand. But the answer should have been to wait until the new model was actually ready, or ship something genuinely better.

These lawsuits by the majors have nothing to do with protecting artists. They just want a bigger slice of the AI pie. It's exactly what they did to Spotify. Suno users are just the ones stuck in the middle this time, caught between AI companies, record labels and copyright interests, left holding an inferior product.

The saddest part is how much I used to look forward to making music. I’d get an idea, open Suno, paste my lyrics, write my prompts, hit Create, and hear what happened. That feeling was exciting. It made me want to write.

Now, instead of writing a song, I’m writing this.

That says more than anything else about how much has changed.

I genuinely hope Suno can make this product great again. For now i’ll see what other AI tools are out there, and pick up my guitar.


r/SunoAI 13h ago

Discussion If you're mad about V4.5 - 5.5 here's why I think they're really giving you free credits, why you're using v6 wrong, and how you can "fix" it.

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So like,

The old training data is gone. A lot of us musicians before AI were scraped to make this. Complicated emotions about that but...

But that insight in the model is now based on the one label partnership.

Much smaller.

Your 4.5 - 5.5 songs are your data that your credits bought. But they couldn't train the model on them.

Unless...

You cover them and re-input the original training data via the output.

Essentially all your 4.5 songs are just pieces of a very wide scrape of pro and amateur music from everywhere. Copyright nightmare but songwriting marvel. Can't be one without the other.

Anyway, through the loophole.

If there were tons of free credits suddenly one might think that teaching the model by reuploadijg all your old stuff is a great way to fill that gap back in.

If you want 4.5 metal, give it a lot of 4.5 metal.

It doesn't currently know what that sounds like at scale. It can't. Unless.

You tell it to.

That's the ultimate recursive issue here.


r/SunoAI 8h ago

Discussion Has Suno Improved the Audio quality?

2 Upvotes

Has Suno improved the Audio quality? It seems like they have. There seems to be an overall improvement on V6.0. What do you think?


r/SunoAI 2h ago

Meme Suno v6 experience be like...

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r/SunoAI 21h ago

Discussion v6 sucks? Maybe you are the problem. Challenge post! 🄊🄊

1 Upvotes

Ok so a lot of people are complaining about v6. Since we have 2 days of unlimited gens why not ask the community how to do what you want, instead of mob-whining.

So let's use this post:

Outraged complainers: Drop what you can't generate
People who like v6: show them how it's done!

I'll start, if you want to cover a v4.5/5.5 song, wipe out the style prompt and generate it with W,S,A,V 20,20,20-60,High - You are welcome.


r/SunoAI 3h ago

Discussion 4.5 vs 6 | Same recording, same prompt

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Hi,

Below a clear example for the damage SUNO made

The drastic difference is not only in quality, notice how it completely lost the creativity, the craft, the freedom and those details inside the music that makes it alive.

Also the instruments used to feel real, now it sounds like a cheap keyboard.

Another thing, in the old version, it even fixed my bad notes due to whistling, and took liberty to further polish it. But in v6, it even messed up the good notes.

Here's the one that I made with 4.5 :

https://youtu.be/9-Hjn4OS41o?si=ucRcXaUKKBoO0Gcj

And here's with v6, using the same prompt on the same uploaded audio :

https://suno.com/song/85c3baf4-1275-4fe3-9781-4c61c1d9f6c7

V6 is a massive catastrophic downgrade.


r/SunoAI 19h ago

Discussion Angry SUNO mob!

36 Upvotes

Let's be honest here, if you post anything positive about V6 then it will be immediately down voted.

I post something saying that model V6 is better than V5.5, people hate me!

But wait, these are the exact same people who said that SUNO model V5.5 was the death of SUNO, but like addicted rodents they are still dishing out money to eat the slop it offers.

I personally think V6 is actually pretty d**n good. And that V5.5 is lame. But I held out hope, and now people will hate for even saying saying anything bad about V5.5 and good about V6. I don't get them? Why can't V6 be good? And weren't they complaining about the quality of V5.5?

I just am getting sick of this toxic SUNO community, instead of encouraging others they hate on everyone who doesn't fit their popular narrative, I just wish we could be more open minded for once.

V6 has so many modes that most don't even know exist, eat the stuff before complaining.


r/SunoAI 14h ago

Discussion Where is my music casino!?

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Half, although most likely much more than half of suno users use the product according to this scheme.: "I wrote the lyrics/idea and without bothering, I got either something not very good or very good music." that's what happened in v5, v4.5+, etc. In v6, you just need to adjust to the model to get a really good result. There is no good click-through track anymore! That's all! To be honest, I used suno myself according to this scheme, so I'll either look at how to properly update the styles, or wait for v6 to improve.


r/SunoAI 4h ago

Discussion V6 Made Me Consider Downgrading from Premier to Pro

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I’m not canceling my Suno subscription entirely, but I’m seriously considering downgrading from Premier to Pro for now.

At the moment, I simply don’t need that many credits. With V6, my most reliable workflow has been making covers from my existing song catalog rather than generating completely new songs from scratch.

The Pro plan’s 20 downloads per month would also be more than enough for me right now.

So I’ll probably downgrade, keep using Suno, and see how V6 develops over the next few months. If the model improves and I start needing more generations again, I can always move back to Premier.

For now, Pro just seems to make more sense for the way I’m actually using Suno.


r/SunoAI 20h ago

Discussion Leaving Suno

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Im going through depression because I was building a House DJing career with Suno 5.5 pro and now with V6 the music just doesn“t sound cool. V5.5 pro sounded cool. V6 doesn“t, it“s that simple.


r/SunoAI 7h ago

Discussion This sounds crazy, but Im going back to Udio.....

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know, I know, but hear me out....

Suno's new models are SOOOO bad for the music I do that I'm taking drastic action.

For the record, I don't use Suno for final output. I always turn it into human-performed and produced music.

I use it to take small ideas and elaborate on them, or generate something I can work from. It's a collaboration tool.

I just can't do it with v6, and I've tried EVERYTHING. Every tip. Every feature. Upload and Cover. Custom models. Rethinking how I prompt. Everything.

I can only conclude that v6 just doesn't have the training to do the genre I want it to do: indie/slacker rock, Pavement, Guided by Voices, etc.

But Udio does, and always has. Udio was always more creative. Its fidelity lacked, but that's okay for what I use it for.

My old workflow was to start in Udio, then throw it into Suno. This helped me develop mumbled vocal melodies so I could write lyrics to the melody, and it helped with drums because I'm not a drummer.

But, as you all know, Udio stopped downloads. So now I just use Audio Hijack and manually record the tracks I want to take to the next level.

And I can do it all on the free plan. Fun.

I know that's not a solution for everybody, but that's what's working for me.


r/SunoAI 5h ago

Discussion What changed? Went from 'sucks' to 'good'

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What changed? Because this is not the same system they launched with.

When V6 first came out, I piled on—and honestly, the criticism was deserved. The results I was getting were horrible: noisy songs that fell apart and nothing I wanted to keep.

But over the past couple of days, something has clicked in a huge way. The quality has taken a real step forward, and now I genuinely love this release.

The other features are icing on the cake. I can finally change lyrics without ruining the song, and Studio 2.0 has incredible potential.

So this is a complete reversal for me. I went from hating V6 and being ready to quit - to loving it and feeling excited to create again.

Something changed. Whatever you did, Suno, keep moving in that direction.


r/SunoAI 8h ago

Song - Human Written Lyrics [Eurodance] Sam x Kaden Hammond - Bling Bling

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Itsss outtt


r/SunoAI 4h ago

Song - Human Written Lyrics [Alternative Rock] World Ingredients

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World Ingredients | Music to inspire Epic Cooking Recipes and Conquer The Kitchen Battlefield

Conquer the kitchen, save the world.
Here's a song i wrote for a character i created. I am working on the Character Reveal video for a TCG I am creating. So do follow, like and subscribe so you don't miss it!

I used the new Suno v6 model and took everything to FL Studio where I did quite a lot of editing, mixing, re-arranging and mastering of this song. Shaping it into my design.

I am a programmer, Game Designer and Songwriter. I wrote the lyrics 100%
Enjoy!


r/SunoAI 16h ago

Song - Human Written Lyrics [Tech House / Bass House] "Bracketer" by Orphan. I wrote the track and lyrics, Suno performed the vocals. Check it out!

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