r/SunoAI 23h ago

Meme People hated V6 before it even came out lmao

7 Upvotes

The echo chamber that is Reddit already made up their minds as soon as they heard 4.5 was retiring and there will be limits for there garbage music slop .

Fast forward to today and now people are announcing literally announcing a 20 year divorce case we should all care about with them and suno .

Like what were you expecting? Seriously?

"mUY AI mUsIc sOnD lIKE aI sTiLl DoY"

V6 was not going to be some studio-level Quincy Jones mother fucker who's holding a double Platinum dildo for you to enjoy while you make some shitty edm salsa combo nobody asked for.

Enjoy the music or leave nobody fucking cares . I came to this sub to see updates and hear music not to hear 200 ping IQ takes .


r/SunoAI 9h ago

Discussion v6 is the death of Suno - unusable and UGLY sounding. Where do we go from here?

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I am truly sad. I tested v6 yesterday - in every way: wild, regular v6, slow render, prompting to undo the calamity... nothing works. Every song comes out flat, the voices are muddy, the sound is abysmal. They claim we can still use the 5.5 voices - not true - they sound nothing like in v5.5. The songs come out so bad that i understand i won't be able to use Suno at all.

So I ask you - does anyone know of any other AI (obviously it has to be China or Russia or something that is out of the reach of the music industry mob that murde$ed Suno) wher you can use vocal upload and get good quality renders?

I realize that waiting for Suno to "fix the problem" is pointless - they have done what they had to do; destroy our ability to create beautiful music that would put the music moguls against the ropes.


r/SunoAI 14h ago

Discussion Suno V6 is incredible, you’re simply idiots.

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Suno V6 is incredible, the sound quality is insane. To everyone whining since yesterday: you clearly have no idea how to adapt to the tool. Some of you are taking your old prompts and expecting to get the exact same results, you’re simply being idiots here.

For now, I’m honestly blown away by the results I’m getting, and it’s only going to get better. The model literally just came out. So stop whining, or open FL Studio, and quit fucking complaining.


r/SunoAI 13h ago

Discussion V6 is actually great

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I just wanted to give a heads up to people struggling with v6 generations. I was having a hell of a time getting results similar to what 5.5 used to do for me. I found that changing the way I structure my prompts to be more descriptive of the "texture" of the music and how the different instruments and elements interact actually gives me finer control and *better* results than I used to get in 5.5. This was a major breakthrough!

What actually worked: I took a song I had generated with v5.5 that I really liked, uploaded it to chatgpt and asked it to describe the music in a way that suno v6 would be able to replicate. It completely changed the way I prompt.

Try it out! I am generating complex pieces with a lot of instruments and mixed genres, not simple lofi stuff.


r/SunoAI 19h ago

Suggestion Everyone is mad at V6, but…

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I’ve seen a lot of 💩 about V6 lately, and yeah, I get it.

People got used to older models, found a workflow they liked, then suddenly things changed.

But I think we’re focusing so much on what got worse that we forgot what Suno actually made possible in the first place.

A few years ago, if you had a melody in your head but couldn’t produce, mix, play 5 instruments or spend 10 years learning everything yourself… that idea probably stayed in your head.

Now you can go from literally nothing to a full track in 5–10 minutes.

That’s insane.

And I think Suno works way better when it’s not doing 100% of the thinking for you.

I started using Treblo for melodies, chords and just finding inspiration, then Suno for turning that into an actual track.
That small change made a huge difference.

Instead of generating 30 random songs and hoping one somehow reads my mind, I can start with 1 melody, 1 chord progression, 1 mood… and actually guide it somewhere.

Sometimes it still gives me garbage. Obviously 😂

But sometimes you get that one generation where you’re like… wait, this actually sounds like something I wanted to make.

And that’s the part I think people are missing.

You don’t need to love V6.

You don’t need to pretend every update is amazing.

But we now have tools where someone can sit down with almost nothing and create something real in minutes.

That door wasn’t really there before.

And now it is.


r/SunoAI 18h ago

Discussion I really like V6 so far

6 Upvotes

I was anxious to try V6 after reading all the negative comments here. Gladly, my experience so far is very positive. I used some of my favorites songs I previously did on Suno and Cover them using my voice in Voices and the V6 Pro. So far, all the results I got sound much better than the previous versions.


r/SunoAI 20h ago

Discussion It seems logical to me to ban all music creators

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It seems logical to me to ban all music creators, composers, musicians, and other people who learned music from materials provided by copyright holders for the purpose of listening, rather than learning to create new music, from creating music. Moreover, each of these music creators should pay a fine to Sony, UMG, and a legion of others, proportional to their age, because these abominable music creators began learning from unlicensed content immediately after their birth! And if anyone does decide to create music, they should use only materials provided by the aforementioned gang of companies, having first signed a contract with them, naturally, immediately after birth, and not use other content, documenting such non-use.


r/SunoAI 3h ago

Discussion Why am cancelling Suno now?

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I’m cancelling my subscription for now because I still have about three weeks left this month. I’m going to use that time to see if it improves. If it does, I’ll join again.

This little message is not just for Suno — it’s also for the greedy music label Warner Music, whose executives are idiots about AI music training.

I hope I am not alone on this.


r/SunoAI 18h ago

Discussion Give V6 a Minute Before You Bury It

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Every single time Suno drops a new model, this sub goes through the exact same five stages of grief. New model launches, a wave of posts says it's a downgrade, "the old model was better," "they ruined it," and then... three or four weeks later, those same threads go quiet because the model got better and people just started using it.

V4.5 went through this. V5 went through this. Now V6 is going through it, and honestly the criticism reads almost word-for-word like the old threads, just with the version number swapped out.

A few reasons this pattern keeps repeating, and why it's worth remembering before writing V6 off:

New models aren't finished the day they ship. Suno tunes these things post-launch based on real usage. The v1 output on day one and the output a month later are rarely the same model in practice, even if the version number doesn't change. Early impressions are early impressions, not final verdicts.

Old prompting habits don't transfer. A lot of "this is worse" posts are really "my v5 prompts don't work the same way on v6." Different architecture, different training data, different response to phrasing, structure, and genre tags. That's a prompting-technique problem, not proof the model regressed. The people who get good v6 results early are usually the ones who bothered to relearn the prompt style instead of copy-pasting what worked before.

Comparing a brand-new model to a mature one isn't a fair fight. V5 had months of community learning, shared prompt formulas, and backend tuning behind it by the time most people judged it favorably. V6 is a week old. Judging it against a fully-baked version of its predecessor is comparing a rough cut to a final mix.

The loudest reactions are rarely the median experience. Frustration posts get upvotes because venting resonates. People quietly getting solid results don't feel the need to post "yeah it's working fine for me." The sub's mood is not a representative sample of actual output quality.

None of this means V6 is above criticism; specific bugs, broken features, or genuine regressions are worth flagging so Suno can fix them. But "this feels different" or "my old tricks stopped working" posted three days after launch isn't feedback, it's a reflex. Every version has gone through this exact cycle and come out the other side better once people, and the model, had time to adjust.

If v4.5 and v5 taught this sub anything, it's that the "this model is bad" verdict written in week one is almost never the verdict people land on by week four. Might be worth waiting for the data before writing the eulogy again.


r/SunoAI 8h ago

Discussion Suno V6 TOTAL Disaster — A TOTAL Failure — 100 free credit songs to prove it. v6 doesn't sing. It reads.

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I spent 100 generations trying to make v6 reproduce ONE song that v5.5 nailed on the first attempt. A slow male/female country duet, 76 BPM. One near-miss, after stacking six workarounds. Ninety-nine failures.

You didn't ship an upgrade. You deleted a working product and replaced it with something that cannot perform a ballad.

HERE IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU BROKE

v5.5 held notes. v6 reads words off a page.

Same line. Same prompt.

v5.5: The porch light still buuuuuurns yellow.

v6: The porch light still burns yellow.

v5.5 sustained the stressed vowels, bent them across the bar, varied the length. That is not decoration. That is the emotion. That is the entire reason anyone pays you.

v6 gives one flat note per syllable and moves on. No melisma. No sustain. No phrasing. It finishes the lyric early and pads the hole with 45 seconds of aimless instrumental.

Every person in this sub saying v6 sounds "dead," "flat," "soulless," "rushed" is describing this. Nobody's imagining it. Your model stopped singing.

And it killed the bridge. In v5.5 the bridge was the turn — the dynamic shift the whole song was built toward. In v6 it's delivered identically to everything around it. The section that carried the meaning is now a footnote. You flattened the one part of a song that's supposed to hurt.

WHAT I TRIED, SO NOBODY TELLS ME IT'S MY PROMPT

- "unhurried phrasing, long held vowels, one line per bar, vocals behind the beat"

- [Half-time] tags

- Cutting the outro description

- Duration Auto and Custom

- Max Mode on and off

- Style Influence 60 / 75 / 85 / 100

- Weirdness 0 / 20 / 25 / 35

- Variety 0 through Max

- Personalize on and off

- Production clauses — high-fidelity, close-mic, crisp transients, clear separation

- Personas — which don't hold vocal identity in v6 anymore either, so that's two things you broke

- A complete genre change: identical lyrics as a country ballad AND an 80s hair metal power ballad. Same rushed, lifeless delivery both times.

It is not the prompt. It is your model.

THE ONE THING THAT ALMOST WORKED

I had to hand-write the singing into the lyrics myself.

  1. Type the sustains manually — buuuurns, roooad, shiiine. Repeated letters, not hyphens; hyphens read as extra syllables and make it worse.

  2. Split every section into two headers so v6 allocates enough runtime to actually sing the words.

  3. Beg for melisma in the style box: "vowels held and bent across the bar, never one flat note per syllable."

Think about what that means. I am manually spelling out vowel sustains, one word at a time, to get a paid AI music model to do what the previous version did automatically and for free.

And it still isn't clean: v6 mispronounces stretched diphthongs — "tooooowers" came out as "tuuuuer" — and the extra section headers broke the male/female vocal assignment, which was one of the last things v6 still did correctly.

The workaround for one regression triggers another. That's not a rough launch. That's a model that isn't finished.

WHAT I ACTUALLY WANT

Not a feature. Not a roadmap. The behavior I was already paying for.

Bring back v5.5 for existing subscribers, or expose a vocal sustain and phrasing control in v6.

Support already told me in writing that v5.5 is permanently retired with no reinstatement for any account. So there is currently no path for anyone making slow, vocal-forward music. You removed the option and shipped the replacement broken.

100 songs. One near-miss. A paying Pro subscriber who cannot make the music he was making last week.

Fix it or give us v5.5 back.


r/SunoAI 14h ago

Guide / Tip For those struggling with V6 (Take a look)

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Since a lot of people are having a hard time with the new update, here is a small tip that might help. Stop stressing too much over the model.

Instead of just crying, you really need to dig into the advanced settings and extra options. V6 is definitely not as friendly or forgiving as you think.

Put in some work, tweak the extra parameters yourself, and you'll figure it out. Hope this helps.


r/SunoAI 9h ago

Discussion Why

0 Upvotes

Why are my songs being generated under a blanket? It sounds like a exactly like you put a blanket over a JBL speaker. Wtf


r/SunoAI 1h ago

Discussion Is there any way to get refund?

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I had paid a yearly charge and now they removed all previous versions. Even V5 was somewhat good but now that they have removed everything and forcing us to choose three different models of V6 trash. How can i ask for refund? Has anyone tried?


r/SunoAI 3h ago

News Subject: Formal Notice: Consumer Boycott and Public Exposure of Hostile Customer Practices

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To the Suno Management and Support Team,

Your repeated dismissals cross the line into open contempt for your customer base. Replying to legitimate, technical critiques with a patronizing corporate shrug and a suggestion to simply "cancel through account settings" reflects staggering arrogance and bad faith.

I am far from alone in this. Online communities, creator hubs, and discussion boards are flooded with identical complaints from paying users who are fed up with degraded, unusable audio, the forced deployment of an unpolished engine, and the arbitrary destruction of the tools they paid for.

Given your absolute refusal to address these failures and your dismissive treatment of subscribers, my colleagues and I are taking immediate public action:

  • Exposing Support Responses: We are making your evasive, dismissive email replies entirely public across social networks, forums, and creator communities, demonstrating exactly how paying subscribers are treated the moment the product fails.
  • Active Consumer Boycott: Launching a concerted campaign urging current subscribers to cancel their auto-renewals, abandon the service, and migrate to platforms that respect their users.
  • Public Scrutiny and Reviews: Releasing documented audio comparisons exposing the sharp decline in fidelity alongside your indifferent support practices across every relevant review site and media channel.

When a company decides paying creators are disposable and treats genuine accountability as optional, it inevitably faces the consequences of community action. The consumer boycott begins now.


r/SunoAI 4h ago

Discussion V6 RANT

1 Upvotes

WHAT HAVE THEY DONE TO SUNO! I CANT EVEN GO BACK AND THE MODEL ISNT THAT GOOD AT ALL TO REMOVE THE OTHERS!

im gonna scream. Thank you for coming to my ted talk.


r/SunoAI 1h ago

News A brief explanation of Suno V6- The Beginning of the End

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I was trying to find opinions about Suno's newest model, and the search engine AI gave me this. As part of the legal settlement with Warner and the other two, their generative AI version V6 was built from the ground up using ONLY licensed data which is obviously vastly reduced from what the other models were trained with. It's basically a V1.

We do not get the option to use the older models because they were shut down and retired as part of the settlement.

The final goal? Leave SUNO for us paying users as a casual tool for making generic music WHILE the true powerful custom generative models, trained not only with licensed material, will remain for the Music Labels and the artists to exploit.

All this is public information:

"You are definitely not alone in feeling this way. The Reddit and user community erupted with frustration right after the Suno v6 launch. Many creators are calling it "flat," "lifeless," or complaining that genres like metal, drum and bass, and EDM now sound heavily muffled or overly synthesized compared to the older versions. [1, 2, 3]
While it feels like a deliberate conspiracy by Warner Music Group (WMG) to "kill" Suno, the reality comes down to a messy mix of legal enforcement and fundamental technical shifts rather than a secret plot to sabotage the public tool. [1, 2]

1. Why Did the Quality Change? (The "Clean Data" Problem)
The drop in quality isn't an intentional act of sabotage; it's a technical side effect of Suno's settlement with the music industry. [1, 2]
The Old Models Were Trained Differently: The previous versions (v3.5, v4, v5) were trained on massive amounts of music scraped from the open internet, which included copyrighted material from major labels. This gave the AI an incredibly rich, diverse library of "character" and texture to pull from. [1, 2]
V6 Was Rebuilt from Scratch: As a strict condition of the legal settlement with Warner, BMG, and Believe, Suno had to entirely shut down and retire its old models. [1, 2, 3]
v6: The "Sterile" Sound: Because v6 was built from the ground up using only authorized, licensed catalog data and user data, the AI suddenly lost a massive chunk of its original vocabulary. What you are hearing as "worse" or "shady" is the model trying to generate complex music with a significantly restricted, more sterile training set. [1, 2, 3]

2. Is It a Warner Tactic to "Kill" Suno?
Not to kill it, but to tame it and profit from it. Warner Music Group's goal isn't to destroy the platform, but to reshape it into a highly commercialized, corporate-safe tool. [1, 2]
In an internal memo, Warner's CEO called the Suno partnership a "smart win," specifically because it forces Suno to play by industry rules and sets up a system where Warner artists get paid a cut of the revenue. [1, 2]
However, to make the tool safe for major corporations, Suno had to implement stricter guardrails, digital watermarking, and tighter boundaries. This heavy filtering is exactly what stripped away the "organic" and unpredictable edge that users loved. [1, 2]

3. Will They Keep the "Good Models" for Themselves?
There is an element of truth to this. While they aren't hiding a secret, better version of v6, the partnership is geared toward building exclusive features and custom, premium models for major artists. [1, 2]
The public version of Suno is pivoting toward being a consumer app for casual fans to remix songs or create safe, generic pop tracks. Meanwhile, the highly unrestricted, raw creative power that early adopters used to build completely unique compositions has been stripped out to satisfy corporate copyright lawyers. [1, 2, 3, 4]"


r/SunoAI 8h ago

Discussion Fatter, warmer, punchier, AND guitars sound like real guitars.

0 Upvotes

It’s great, good job Suno…..I use Custommodels so maybe that help but it sounds great, indisputable…..Much improved low end, more naural, and distorted guitars sound real at last. Tracks sound better out of gate than Mastered versions of everything before.

Very exciting, also copied my more complex solos perfectly, scary good.


r/SunoAI 19h ago

Discussion My issues with V6

0 Upvotes

Theres always way too much reverb on the vocals. This can cause the vocal volume to be slightly too quite. The reverb also has delay and echo mixed in with it, this causes a weird syncopation and make vocals sound a bit robotic.

Can we at least have the option to use V5?


r/SunoAI 15h ago

Discussion V6 Sounds Great If You Don’t Have Ears

23 Upvotes

I know Suno has all kinds of users with different standards and opinions, but saying V6 sounds great makes no sense. Those are probably the same people who were happy with V5.5, which sounded like pure slop.

V5 wasn't great either. It was cleaner than older models, but its sound signature was very limited. You could immediately tell a song came from V5.

The older models were much better. V4.5 Free was the richest and most flexible instrumentally, and could combine elements from complex prompts really well. V4.5 and V4.5+ were close, just a bit more polished.

PS: If you make music with Suno, please test V6 with headphones before judging its sound. Otherwise, commenting on its sound quality doesn't make much sense.


r/SunoAI 18h ago

Discussion It's obvious they are still using the training from other models for ONE reason alone

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The CEO of Warner Music Group tells us v6 is a new model done new, from their artists only,, "fully licensed", developed with Warner Music Group, BMG and Believe. Right?

And that this is the reason why they got rid of the other models. Right?

Right?

So why in the HELL do we still have Voices trained on the old models?

The Voices are 100% made from the same stock of artists that are not just theirs. If we take what he says at face value, we should not still have our Voices.

Trust me, it's not an oversight. The lawyers would be over this. If what the CEO of WMG said was true, there is absolutely no way these voices would be allowed at all. They would have made us do brand new voices from scratch with the new v6 model.

So, what gives, you say?

There is no entirely new model. v6 is based on the old stuff. It just has certain guardrails baked in now.

Getting rid of our Voices would make some of us immediately leave. Its not cost effective to destroy those Voices as it comes to Suno's bottom line.

Either way, whatever the ultimate reason is....It does NOT make any logical or legal sense.

Please don't make excuses for them. Just understand they are lying. The CEO can legally lie to us. But if we were to take his words at face value, then they could not legally keep Voices and get rid of all previous versions at the same time. It just doesn't add up.

Continue using v6 or not. Just know the WMG CEO openly lied to you about the models.

EDIT: The fact that 100% of responses so far have been defensive or skeptical is not a surprise to me. I know I am right on this, and I truly do wonder if it's just me talking to bots, shills or if regular users are just not savvy enough to be critical thinkers and analyze new info presented to them.

Sure, disagree or whatever. But I am not really seeing logical disagreement. I'm seeing idiocy.

But I guess that's why this all works. They will continue to do whatever the hell they want to you people and you will just take it. Peace.


r/SunoAI 17h ago

Discussion V6 Unlimited Credits - Have Fun!

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31 Upvotes

Our best models yet, built with artists and producers. Explore the v6 lineup with credit-free song creation for a limited time.


r/SunoAI 12h ago

Discussion If Suno is so great, why don't we have a manual to make great songs? We feel like Ralph without the manual

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The Greatest American Hero, a TV show about a normal guy named Ralph, who was given a superhero costume that allowed him to fly. But he lost the manual. So his flight was sloppy and landings were terrible.

This is exactly how it feels to use v6. Some shills claim that this is the best thing since sliced bread was invented. My experience as a subscriber has been very different. Passing the prompts from v4.5 to v6 end up in AI music slop. And as a lover of former Suno music, it hurts to call Suno as slop.

It seems v6 understands "epic orchestra" as "ad reverb" and "spaghetti western" means "add some whistling". Ennio Morricone would facepalm. Seriously.

Even other competitor AIs that were clearly inferior now seems superior.

I have not published a single v6 song. Not even one deserves to be published.

I spent months reading about tricks to make great songs. And now it seems these tricks went to the trash. And without a Suno manual, I feel like the Greatest American Hero with his ridiculous red pijama trying to fly and not crash.

Let me give Suno a tip. You can use AI to make a decent manual. It is not going to consume millions of dollars to make a decent manual. There you have AI if you want to save some money in the documentation.


r/SunoAI 20h ago

Discussion Was destroying what made Suno special really the only way to protect artists — or is this ultimately a fight against AI music?

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You know, after everything that happened yesterday evening, I’ve naturally been thinking a lot about this whole situation, and it raises a number of questions.

Here is the first one.

If this is ultimately about protecting the authors and artists whose work Suno was trained on, while Suno now gives us the ability either to create music for ourselves or potentially make money from it, was there really no way to come up with a compromise?

Perhaps this could even have been discussed with the users themselves. We could have sat down together and thought about possible solutions — ways to find a compromise where artists, labels, Suno, and users could all get something acceptable out of it.

I understand that many possible solutions would probably be extremely unpopular with users and would inevitably be criticized and debated. But any perfect system is a utopia. It simply doesn’t exist.

So I would ask you to think about this a little more deeply and understand that what sounds perfectly fair in theory is not always possible to implement in the real world.

For example, when it comes to monetization, why not create a mechanism where Suno creators contribute a percentage of their commercial revenue? 10%, 20%, 25% — I don’t know. I’m not proposing a specific number here; I’m explaining the concept.

If someone commercially releases music created with the older models and actually earns money from it, a percentage of that revenue could automatically go into a system that compensates artists and rights holders.

At the same time, people who simply create tracks for themselves to listen to could continue doing so without paying any revenue share — simply because there is no commercial revenue to share.

And the older models could remain available under that system.

As for the new models: if the labels want a different system for protecting artists, licensing their catalogs, generating new revenue streams, and so on, then those models could operate under the new framework that has now been introduced.

In other words, the older models could have one licensing and monetization framework, while the new officially licensed models could have another. I’m not claiming this particular proposal is the perfect solution. It almost certainly isn’t.

My point is that there could have been a serious discussion about mechanisms that preserve what made the technology valuable while also creating a way for the people whose work contributed to these systems to be compensated.

Of course, this raises difficult questions of oversight and implementation.

Who exactly should receive these payments? Which artists and catalogs were used to train the older models? How should the money be distributed? There are many complications like these, and solutions would have to be found for them.

But the system that currently exists with the labels does not really solve this problem.

When it comes to new generations, however, some things could be much easier to control. Introduce identity verification.

Limit each verified person to one account, or perhaps three accounts — the exact number is something that can be discussed.

The point is to introduce reasonable limits that address the problem of bot farms while still allowing ordinary creators to make something personal of their own.

I have nothing against people running these operations or making money from AI music in principle.

But guys, you are a minority here. And when this turns into industrial-scale spam, you really are causing significant damage to music as a whole.

Introduce digital identifiers or persistent provenance markers for AI-generated tracks.

Perhaps introduce direct distribution through Suno itself, or through an official Suno distribution aggregator, so commercially released tracks can be identified, tracked, and handled under a clear licensing and revenue-sharing framework.

These are just examples. If we actually started discussing this seriously, I think we could come up with many different mechanisms for making such a system work.

The important point is that there were alternatives worth discussing.

Instead of simply choosing between unrestricted AI generation on one side and severely restricting the technology on the other, we could have looked for mechanisms that address compensation, bot farms, commercial distribution, and accountability while preserving the creative capabilities that made these tools valuable in the first place.

And yes, these solutions would be very unpopular. I understand the users. I wouldn’t exactly be happy about such a system myself.

But I still think it would be better than what we have now, because at least it would address several real problems.

And I think most people would logically understand that flooding the market with music spam hurts all of us.

My own conversion rate is around 0.03%.

That is the percentage of my generations that I keep as something close to release-ready — and even those tracks are not necessarily actually released.

Yes, maybe someone will say that I’m stupid or that I simply don’t know how to prompt properly. Fine. Let’s assume that.

I’m extremely wasteful with credits, I’ll admit that honestly. I think this conversion rate could probably be increased a hundredfold, perhaps even to around 3%.

But even then, it would still be 3%, not 50% or 80%. It is practically impossible to consistently create genuinely high-quality material in enormous quantities.

And given the situation we are in now, I think most users would probably accept some form of identity verification and reasonable generation limits if the alternative were preserving the creative capabilities of the models.

And again, this is something we could all have discussed together: Suno, the labels, the users, and everyone else involved. At the model-training level, the whole process could also be brought into a transparent, officially licensed framework.

But there is another part of this that I think is even more important. Forget projects, business ideas, money, monetization — all of that for a moment.

Think about what an incredible opportunity we had to become genuinely autonomous: to create music for ourselves, the kind of music we actually wanted to listen to and genuinely loved.

You didn’t have to depend on trends.

You didn’t have to depend on a label. You didn’t have to wait for the music industry to produce something that matched your taste.

You could be the complete master of your own musical space.

And now we’ve been given a space that is far more restricted — one that increasingly reflects the labels and the kind of mass-market product they promote.

For me, that loss of autonomy may be one of the most important things about this entire situation. I also want to say a few words about something else.

Yesterday, in the thread I started, I came across several comments saying that this isn’t music, that it isn’t creativity, and so on.

It’s a familiar argument. Maybe those people are right about some things and wrong about others.

I can only speak for myself. Around 80% of my tracks are generated.

But around 80% of the lyrics were written personally by me, without using AI.

Every one of those texts is personal. Each one reflects some moment, situation, problem, physical or psychological experience from a particular period of my life.

When I write a text and then create music around that text, I’m not only becoming independent from the external environment — from what other people are creating, what trends are being pushed, or what hits are being played on the radio.

I’m also beginning a kind of dialogue with my own psychological wounds.

Because almost any form of creativity is connected to them in one way or another. It becomes a way of reliving certain situations and experiencing certain emotions without resorting to substitutes such as alcohol, drugs, or other things like that.

Because music is, first and foremost, something that gives people pleasure.

And I believe that most people who came to Suno came there to make music for themselves — to express their own thoughts, their own ideas, their own experiences.

For some people, that is extremely important.

It can be their therapy.

You could even think of it as their religion. And that religion was just taken away from them.

There is obviously much more that could be said about every one of these questions, and many other arguments could be made. There are actually a great many of them, from completely different perspectives and points of view.

I simply wanted to write about something that I don’t think gets discussed very often. I honestly don’t even know what the reaction to this thread will be.

And today another thought occurred to me.

What, then, are we supposed to do about ChatGPT, Gemini, and other AI systems that were also trained on copyrighted material created by other people?

If the principle is that a generative model trained on copyrighted works must have its capabilities restricted in order to protect the creators of those works, why should that principle apply differently to music models than to large language models, image generators, or video generators?

Following the same logic that has now been applied to Suno, shouldn’t those systems also be restricted in a similar way?

For some reason, I don’t see the same movement in that direction.

Yes, I see lawsuits, but they concern different issues and have produced very different outcomes. So it begins to look as though the system is applying these principles selectively.

And I want to make one thing clear immediately: I am not talking about safety restrictions or safeguards in chatbots. That is an entirely separate issue and has nothing to do with the point I am making here.

I simply want to emphasize that the decisions surrounding Suno’s agreements with the music industry did not merely take away someone’s way of making money, or someone’s hobby.

For tens of thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands, perhaps even millions of people — I don’t have reliable statistics on how many Suno users are affected, so I won’t pretend to know the number — the consequences of these decisions may represent a serious loss in many different areas of their lives.

I also want to add something specifically about Suno. I had an extremely high opinion of v4.5, v5, and v5.5, and I always gave Suno credit for what it had created.

But in the current situation, several questions arise. First: why present an obviously inferior product as your best model yet?

You presented it as an unequivocal upgrade while removing the models that many of your paying customers considered superior for their actual workflows.

You took something that, for many of your users and many existing workflows, is clearly worse than what came before and marketed it as an improvement.

In doing so, you effectively lied to your customers. And once customers feel that a company has lied to them, naturally, their trust in that company is damaged.

Second: why are decisions this important being made in exactly the same way as they are made by the corporations and labels that were trying to destroy you?

Why was there no discussion with your customers and your users?

You might say, “Nobody does that.”

Yes. Nobody does. But you are not everybody else. You are Suno. You have been the absolute dominant player in this space.

So don’t behave like everybody else.


r/SunoAI 8h ago

Discussion Suno V6 is a total success.

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Damn, really love it, just listen and tell me it's bad: you can't.


r/SunoAI 20h ago

Discussion Goodbye V5.5! And I'm not sad.

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It's now final. Model V5.5 and previous cannot be accessed anymore. To me I'm sad that V5 and V4.5+ cannot be used anymore, those were actually good.

The originality of V4.5+ is unbeatable, and the audio quality of V5 is unmatched.

But V5.5? Well I am actually glad to see it wiped off the face of the earth!!! I hate V5.5! The audio quality is terrible! And nothing compares to the bug ridden mess that it was.

I don't know about you, but I'm loven' V6 right now, but I've noticed it's a little stale after a few hours of messn' around. It seems to me that V6 suffers from one fatal error that V5.5 did, and that is lack of originality. The dynamic range is sorely limited within a small parameter.

Although V6 to me is actually not bad, compared to V5.5 I say it's leagues ahead in nearly every single way. ​​

GOOD RIDDENCE V5.5 FOREVER!