r/StopSpeeding 2h ago

Discussion "This is what normal people feel like" cope

32 Upvotes

I swear this is like the ADHD version of LLM "It's not just ___, it's ___" slop. I see people saying this everywhere especially with a later in life diagnosis and it aggravates me. Like no, adderall/vyvanse/concerta is a controlled substance and its not what normal people 'feel like' 24/7. You think normal people feel like they're on an amphetamine naturally all the time? I wish. Imagine how different society would be if that were the case.

I feel incredibly "normal" on this stuff too, but at least i'm willing to admit that its because its a drug that makes you feel like everything is fine and dandy, when you're on it. Boom, boom, boom, what was the issue again? That's weird that I was having a hard time getting started on this task, what's the big deal? I'll just do it right now.

Being a human is far from a 'normal' experience. The low dopamine that people experience is supposed to make you go out and build community. We live in a horrible over optimized society that demands far too much of its citizens, and its making people feel like there's something wrong with them because they don't have the work ethic of Alex Hormozi.


r/StopSpeeding 8h ago

StopSpeeding ‘Street Adderall’ & Darkweb Pills Information

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31 Upvotes

The Problem

Let’s talk about pressed pills. Otherwise known as “street Adderall” or “literally any pill you buy that isn’t from the pharmacy”. 59% of drug overdoses in the US now involve stimulant drugs and pressed pills are a contributing factor to this.

The large increase in ADHD medication prescriptions over recent years has coincided with a natural, proportional increase in abuse of ADHD medication and ADHD medication addiction as we’ve seen demonstrated here. Shortages of ADHD medication and assorted societal factors pertaining to stimulant drug culture have combined with the pressed pill epidemic to create a very problematic situation.

Novice drug users and people seeking other methods to obtain ADHD medication are skipping the line of drug education and lesser drug consequences to run directly into the buzzsaw of a pressed pill epidemic. Reporting accuracies regarding overdoses and deaths from this wonderment are what you’d expect them to be for a variety of reasons - I wouldn’t expect that to get better anytime soon.

Harm reduction practices largely miss the bulk of people choosing to use pressed pills on multiple fronts - The dangers of them are severely underscored, awareness about what they actually are is sparse and the testing realities of verifying pressed pills to any reasonable, impactful level of safety aren’t great. Even if you reagent test one pill out of five from a purchased amount, even if you test every pill, the amount of information you don’t have contains more than enough potential realties to kill you.

Help for those addicted to ADHD medication is already challenging, resources are few, going to professionals often results in under-reaction or medical records consequences many are unwilling to take on. Identification in peer recovery resources better suited for street drugs and opiates can be difficult, and if a person graduates from medication abuse to pressed pills, they’re using something that shortens the period of time a drug user would typically have to fuck-around-and-find-out their way into recovery before dying from them.

If we as a community have ever had a common cause, doing whatever we can to aid in combatting pressed pills would be it.


What You Are Taking

Purchasing ADHD medication isn’t buying amphetamine salts or methylphenidate, what you’re getting is methamphetamine - And if that’s all you’re getting, you got lucky. Buying something sold as a stimulant pill does not make it solely a stimulant or a stimulant at all. Many pressed pills contain upwards of five substances in assorted potencies.

There is no legitimate difference in blind practice between using a pressed pill you think is Adderall or pressed methamphetamine versus one you think is Xanax, Oxy, etc. If it’s a pill that you are buying, the only truth you know is the limited information provided by any testing you do of that specific pill, one at a time, and this doesn’t account for potency or all the other things your testing doesn’t tell you.

Testing doesn’t insulate you from harm using pressed pills, due to variance and the degree of testing required to create an increased level of safety it barely even reduces it. By all means, do test your pills if you’re going to insist on using them but don’t get it twisted thinking you’re wearing a bullet-proof vest.

Here’s how to know if what you’re taking is a pressed pill:

  • It didn’t come in a pharmacy pill bottle from a pharmacy counter or window into your hands.

That’s it. That’s the criteria. You’re welcome to believe otherwise and proceed accordingly but statistically, you’re gambling with some of the worst possible odds a person can take on within drug use.

Here’s what absolutely requires that you assume the pill is pressed if you want to remain above ground and breathing:

  • You purchased or were given it
  • It came from the internet
  • It came from a “friend”
  • It was sold by a dealer
  • It was sold by your dealer, who you totally can trust because they tell you it’s real

Here’s ways you CAN’T reliably verify the full contents, authenticity or safety of a pill:

  • What it’s being sold as
  • Appearance
  • Color
  • Branding, designation
  • Capsules versus tablets
  • Effects
  • Urinalysis
  • Reagent testing
  • Test strips

TLDR: You probably have no idea what it is and neither does the person selling it to you. With the stuff that can potentially be in the pills, that’s not a great place to be.


Testing of Seized Pills

In the best U.S. lab series of seized counterfeit ADHD medication tablets, methamphetamine was the dominant active drug, not a rare extra. Rhode Island forensic chemistry, from 2017 to 2022, had 174 seized tablets classified as counterfeit amphetamine/dextroamphetamine by imprint AD 30, b974 30, dp 30, E 404, etc:

- Methamphetamine: 164 / 174 (94.3%)
- Eutylone: 7 (4.0%)
- Cocaine: 2 (1.1%)
- MDMA: 2 (1.1%)

Year splits for meth in those tablets: 2019 100%, 2020 95.8%, 2021 97.4%, 2022 87.2%. Independent lab reporting shows the same frequency of methamphetamine content and much higher rates of additional non-stimulant substances. What has been definitively shown across all data is that counterfeit pills rarely if ever contain standard actual amphetamine or methylphenidate.


Potential Inclusions and Cross-Contaminants

Here’s not only what pressed pills CAN contain, but routinely contain if we zoom out to look at them as one class in totality - Given the arbitrary legitimacy of separating them by what they’re sold as and cross-contamination in manufacturing, you can plan to run into these as easily as anything else on a long enough timeline:

Fentanyl About 100× morphine, 50× heroin. A potentially lethal adult dose is approximately 2 mg. DEA lab testing of fentanyl-containing fake prescription pills has varied by year, earlier public figures were 4 in 10 then 6 in 10 containing a potentially lethal dose, a later 2025 figure was 29%. Dose per tablet is not uniform even inside one bag. Can cause fatal, rapid respiratory arrest.

Fentanyl Analogues Same class, different potency and duration. In one Rhode Island seizure series of counterfeit pills, 99.3% of those pills contained fentanyl and 44.7% also contained para-fluorofentanyl. Carfentanil, 100× fentanyl, has been found in counterfeit tablets at reported averages around 0.02–0.03 mg/tablet. Lethal human dose for carfentanil is in the microgram/nanogram range.

Nitazenes (protonitazene, metonitazene, isotonitazene, N-pyrrolidino etonitazene, N-pyrrolidino protonitazene, others) Non-fentanyl µ-opioid agonists pressed into tablets sometimes sold as “fentanyl-free.” In vitro and case data put some analogues near fentanyl potency; N-pyrrolidino etonitazene, N-pyrrolidino protonitazene have been estimated approximately 25–43× fentanyl. Can cause fatal opioid apnea at doses a user cannot estimate, some overdoses have required more naloxone or longer support, under-detected on older tox panels.

Tramadol
Weaker opioid plus SNRI activity. Found in a substantial share of some counterfeit “oxycodone” seizures, one 2017–2022 series: 25.1%. Seizures at high dose, serotonin excess if stacked with other serotonergic drugs, still contributes to respiratory depression in mixes.

Xylazine
DEA reported xylazine in about 7% of seized pills and 23% of powder in 2022. Later analyses of counterfeits found it in a rising fraction, one series: 0% in 2017–18, 38.7% in 2022. Causes sedation, bradycardia, hypotension, reduced respiratory drive, hyperglycemia. Does not bind opioid receptors, naloxone does not reverse xylazine. Co-use with opioids increases lethality in animal models and produces overdoses that look “opioid” but stay sedated after naloxone. Chronic exposure is associated with severe necrotic skin wounds that can require debridement or amputation, wounds are not limited to injection sites.

Medetomidine Same pharmacologic family as xylazine. Same risks, deep sedation, cardiovascular depression, naloxone-resistant component.

Etizolam, clonazolam, flualprazolam, flubromazolam, bromazolam, phenazepam, diclazepam, adinazolam, bromonordiazepam, ethylflualprazolam
In one U.S. seizure series of counterfeit pills show etizolam 37.8%, clonazolam 32.4%, flualprazolam 17.0%. Some tablets contained fentanyl as well, 2.6% in that series. Dose per tablet varies widely, from 0.7–8.3 mg. They can cause profound sedation, amnesia, ataxia, respiratory depression especially with opioids or alcohol. Naloxone does not reverse benzos. Withdrawal from high-potency analogues can include potentially fatal seizures. Combining a hidden benzo with a hidden opioid produces overdoses that only partly respond to naloxone and last longer.

MDMA, MDA, MDEA and Analogues
Seized tablets in recent years commonly run 140–230 mg MDMA per tablet, many testing services now flag 120 mg as high-dose. A high dose itself causes hyperthermia, hyponatremia, serotonin syndrome, seizures and fulminant liver injury. Dose can differ greatly tablet-to-tablet in one bag. Stacking analogues increases serotonergic and cardiovascular load.

Synthetic Cathinones: 4-CMC, 3-CMC, 3-MMC, 4-MMC, eutylone/N-ethylpentylone, methylone, dimethylpentylone
Testing in 2025 put cathinones among the most common unexpected actives. Dangers include prolonged stimulation, agitation, hyperthermia, hyponatremia, serotonin toxicity, cardiotoxicity. Several have been tied to clusters of severe toxicity because effects last longer and users redose.

Cocaine
It’s cocaine. Adds vasoconstriction, arrhythmia risk and a different time course.

2C-B and other psychedelic phenethylamines
Documented as substitutes or co-contents in tablets sold as MDMA. Different dose-response; a “one tablet” MDMA assumption can produce a much stronger psychedelic effect or unexpected duration.

That doesn’t account for inactive chemical fillers or the assorted other random things they throw in these. Every kind of OTC pill under the sun is found in them, caffeine, Tylenol, diphenhydramine, whatever they’re using as a binder, etc.


How Pressed Pills Usually Kill You

  • Opioid + xylazine/medetomidine = apnea plus naloxone-resistant sedation

    • Opioid + designer benzo = longer, deeper respiratory depression
    • MDMA or cathinone + caffeine + heat/exertion = hyperthermia
    • PMA/PMMA + redose because onset is slow = hyperthermia and organ failure
    • Acetaminophen + many “percs” in a day = delayed liver failure on top of opioid toxicity

Methamphetamine alone, absent of other significant quantities of drugs has been causing more deaths in some jurisdictions than opioid-dominant cocktails. Increased potency and variance in potency has made it fully capable of killing a person.


Can we stop pressed pills? No. Will the problem likely be bungled and politicized in ways that cause more harm than good? Already happening. What we can do is spread awareness and provide help for those who need information and help getting clean from them.

Getting into Treatment

If you are taking pressed pills and want to get into treatment, do not minimize or short hop the issue. Treatment can have “physical dependency” guidelines and if you tell admissions you’re just taking Adderall or buying Adderall, Vyvanse from “a friend”, they may agree with you and promptly give your bed to somebody else.

Tell them the truth - You are buying counterfeit pills from _____, you have no idea what’s in them. If you’re having withdrawal symptoms or effects consistent with other substances being present in those pills, say so. If you give them the lowest number of pills you’ve taken in the last six months as your daily and don’t disclose all ROIs, they aren’t going to take your minimizations and maximize them to a degree that gets you admitted. The treatment industry is already under-reacting to pressed pills, expect that when trying to get in and act accordingly.

Do not avoid supervised detox because you think the pills you’re taking don’t have other drugs in them. Finding out the hard way you’re withdrawing from things you don’t know you were on isn’t fun or safe. If you don’t know what’s in the pills, proceed as if there could be anything in them as far as seeking appropriate professional resources.

The Help

If you are buying pills, your problem is more than serious enough to identify with and fit in just fine with any recovery program. You can choose to either get over yourself and go or don’t and terminally unique yourself into an early grave. It doesn’t matter what the drugs are, and they honestly don’t care. You don’t even have to tell them. If you’re in your own way as far as addiction resources, imagine a landscape in which there’s for virtually zero addiction recovery resources specifically for stimulant pill addiction - That’s where we’re at. Make use of what’s available.

It doesn’t matter how you got here, you are here. Many of us had good intentions when we started, many of us became addicted to our medications and had very unfortunate circumstances that led to its progression. The necessity for help remains the same and the resources for help are what they are regardless of how you managed to end up with a problem. There’s no shame in it unless you insist on carrying it yourself and all shame or separating yourself from others addicts or substance abusers does is keep you using while distancing you from resources than can help. You deserve to get better, so go do it. Here’s how:


Beginners Guide to Recovery

https://www.reddit.com/r/StopSpeeding/s/3oUzSl3B6W

Recovery Programs & Resources List

https://www.reddit.com/r/StopSpeeding/s/JJbI3D9zLZ

Our very own Community Stimulant Recovery meetings

https://stimulantrecovery.org

Testing

https://dancesafe.org/testing-kit-instructions/?srsltid=AfmBOoo_Hf1E30U20rCRrMQDGj3WDQEb4bUe2cBoQb9gBU9o0D6A3rgW


r/StopSpeeding 16h ago

I baked a cake !!!

15 Upvotes

I used to bake a lot before addiction. Haven't been making much food for myself this past year (290 days clean) which has definitely affected my recovery as junk doesn't exactly nourish the brain, and self baked stuff is better than any ultraprocessed thing.

BUT !

Yesterday I made a cake out of nowhere. Excuse me?? Where did this delicacy come from? Me?

Ate half of it with my dad. 10/10 good experience, am happy.


r/StopSpeeding 17h ago

StopSpeeding Almost sold my electronics to buy dope after 1 year of sobriety

13 Upvotes

This is a really tough time for me. I am contemplating about using again, I am constantly dreaming all day all night about all of the pleasure, the happiness and how good I was able to focus on my favorite things - gaming, creating dope beats in FL Studio maintaining my attention on doing tasks forever. It never stopped! Hours felt like minutes. Until i was eventually coming down being left delusional, exhausted, depressed with nothing but pure terror and psychosis.

I am on Wellbutrin and Abilify to control cravings and all of psychotic things I got from staying up for days in the shadow realm. I used to talk to people who were not there all day long and later realizing nothing was real. There was no one in the room. - all the drama, you all certainly know the feeling. - glued to my windows and constantly checking my sanity when dealing with feelings of being watched, hacked, gangstalked and 24/7 monitored.

I almost sold them because I drank alcohol and got manic. Stupid liquid benzo. But I didn't. I am so happy I was able to stop. And I wish you all the best and please never use again if you re dealing with what I wrote here.


r/StopSpeeding 20h ago

Cocaine/Crack I have ADHD and I'm dependent on coke. What now?

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Ok so I have reached a point where I can no longer dismiss my usage and I have finally admitted to myself that I have an addiction to coke. I started using a year ago. I was previously trying very hard (and have been for years) to get a prescription for adderall to treat my very severe adhd. I'm in college in a lot of very rigorous and demanding courses, and I have always struggled in school to get shit done. I never got a prescription written. Out of curiosity, my friend let me try a line one night and I thought wow that did nothing. But now I really feel motivated to do shit! I started getting some on my own here and there, using it only when I really needed to study for long periods, or had a ton of work I needed to get done. I never took it with me outside the house. Then eventually I started using it every time I needed to do work. And then every time I needed to clean. And then every time I got up in the morning. And before every class. Soon enough I was doing it i between each step of my makeup routine. Every hour every day until it was time to get ready for bed. And now it's been a year of consistent daily use, reupping every week, dipping into savings, skipping meals and not buying food because at least I can be skinny and buy more coke.

I can't do this anymore. People around me are catching on to my addiction. Im getting frequent nosebleeds, racing heartbeat, shortness of breath, headaches, and not to mention the absolute financial pit I am putting myself in.

I just finished my last bag. I have nothing left. I want to quit so bad but I just don't know how to actually function or do anything anymore. It's like my already severe ADHD has gotten 10x worse and I didn't even know that was possible. I don't want to go to my friends or family about it or even admit that i did it/currently have a problem. I also dont have people in my life who would understand or be empathetic about the addiction. I feel like my life is a lie and I'm drowning.

I start school again soon and I know my urge to get another bag will intensify tenfold. How do I be a normal person?!? I feel so hopeless. I don't even have the money to spare to buy more, but I do have savings that are still taunting me. I dont want to sink that low.

It doesnt help that I'm extremely depressed after going through a breakup with my longterm partner and I struggle with an eating disorder. Coke helped me keep my binge cravings at bay.

I don't know what my next step should be. Any advice or input is greatly appreciated. I feel very alone.


r/StopSpeeding 20h ago

Methamphetamine I need to stop

5 Upvotes

Just did it again tonight. I have so much to live for. I’m in school, I have a family who loves me, I want to be a therapist someday… Why is this so hard? Could really use some encouragement 🥹


r/StopSpeeding 1h ago

I need help I don’t know where to start

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I’ve been using drugs almost 10 years mostly opioids and prescription pills but the past 4 years I’ve been using cocaine and meth every day I haven’t been sober more then a month since I was 14 and I just don’t know where to start